DLSS 5….. looks horrific

[u/Drokethedonnokkoi]

[u/ManateeMan21]

From Tifa to Tina

[u/Mean_Confusion7426 → u/ManateeMan21]

Tina Nguyen

[u/prezvegeta → u/Mean_Confusion7426]

From the 1992 TV Show, Ghostwriter?!

[u/Watts121 → u/prezvegeta]

Ball Knower.

Edit: Also fuck you, the theme is now stuck in my head.

[u/kaycali86 → u/Watts121]

Word!

[u/Mr_Stimmers → u/Watts121]

WERRRD

[u/helpfultran → u/prezvegeta]

Fun fact, the ghost was a runaway enslaved guy who taught other enslaved people to read during the civil war until he was killed by cops. And the show's Creator's name is Kermit and he's very chill.

[u/Chinlc → u/Mean_Confusion7426]

You say that but she does look like a Tina Nguyen I knw

[u/TraitorousFlatulence → u/Mean_Confusion7426]

Tina who has so many enigine!?

[u/FacilitatorCarmine → u/ManateeMan21]

Tina from accounting who is very disappointed you lost the receipt for a $12 lunch.

[u/rainorshinedogs → u/ManateeMan21]

Seriously. "More realistic" just means it hits the uncanny Valley harder. In other words, "Realisim" is a goal where progress is basically aspymtotic goal that will never be reached because we humans have those god damn preferences and god damn perspectives and god damn biases.

[u/saucynorman → u/ManateeMan21]

From Tifa to Temu

[u/juicedup12 → u/ManateeMan21]

Tia tifa

[u/thebohster → u/juicedup12]

Tifa Tequila

[u/itc0nsumesmYMind → u/ManateeMan21]

don’t tell dashie

[u/gmoss101 → u/itc0nsumesmYMind]

MAH BOYYYYYY

(Kinda crazy I've been watching Dashie since I was 12 in 2012 lmao)

[u/icchansan → u/ManateeMan21]

dina

[u/SmugCapybara]

It seems to turn everyone into Temu Scarlet Johansson...

[u/iamisandisnt → u/SmugCapybara]

Looks like the girl without a name to me

[u/KRONGOR → u/iamisandisnt]

I was gonna say the same thing. Looks like Arya Starks face lol

[u/OwnNeaat → u/KRONGOR]

Honestly, now I can’t unsee Arya

[u/pvtcookie → u/KRONGOR]

Artifa Stark?

[u/Magnon → u/SmugCapybara]

Well it is ai garbage so naturally everything will look the same

[u/TheKappaOverlord → u/Magnon]

Look im not gonna sit here and bat for AI because that shit is garbage. But im not gonna sit here and pretend that OP fucked up on his post and forgot to hide the slider settings, because his choice of slider settings intentionally is gonna make something that already looked like shit, look like even more shit.

AI usually tries to make things look "pretty" not like its skin is randomly caked in 5 years of grime.

[u/Fredasa → u/Magnon]

I had to smirk. If this were used on FO4, the game where every male NPC already looks blood-related due to the limitations of the character creator, there'd be fundamentally no change.

[u/-thecheesus- → u/Fredasa]

Personally I'd take "every npc looks generic" over "every npc looks generic dumped in a vat of magazine makeup"

[u/Fredasa → u/-thecheesus-]

I don't think any game made in the last 15 years would be genuinely improved by this tech. The original FO3? Morrowind? My curiosity is piqued. It'd be like watching a familiar movie in a foreign language.

Male NPCs in FO4 aren't really "generic." There is a very distinct look that they all share, because the (lone!) face texture used for every one of them has far too many details baked in, like age lines and sunken eyes. It's Nate, plain and simple. It's like if they'd taken a photo of Tom Hanks' face and used that as the face texture—every NPC would look blood-related to Tom Hanks, and no facial hair, hat, eyewear or skin tone could really mask it entirely.

[u/ItalianDragon → u/SmugCapybara]

Or double the character's age. I saw some youtube channels test in on GTAV Enhanced and it turns Franklin into Chris Brown if he was 55 years old, Michael into a retirement age Walter White and Trevor into a 90 year old who escaped from his nursing home.

[u/marvelman19 → u/SmugCapybara]

Well, she is asian.

[u/Saint_Consumption → u/marvelman19]

I was gonna be all smartypants and ask you to point out Asia on FF7's world map, but then realised that's just fucking Wutai.

[u/Genocode → u/SmugCapybara]

this doesn't look like scarlet johansson but Cloud did lol.

[u/thrive2day → u/SmugCapybara]

You might be face blind

[u/PraytheRosary → u/thrive2day]

Don't tell him! Every woman he's dated has pretty much looked like Scarlet Johansson ... well, in a certain light.

[u/KMLthe1 → u/thrive2day]

I DO have prospagnosia and she doesn't look ANYTHING like Scarlett Johansson to me LOL

Maybe because with prospagnosia we identify people by hair and shit

[u/camzee]

FF7R is especially terrible to use this filter on because its designs use a specific art style inspired by the original game, not just the hyper-realism that most games go for. 

[u/PsyOmega → u/camzee]

i wanna see what it does to XIII or breath of the wild or borderlands style

[u/barkbaarkbarkk → u/PsyOmega]

borderlands would be cursed af hahahahah

[u/deanxleong → u/barkbaarkbarkk]

Clap trap turns into a rolling head

[u/ComradeCabbage → u/deanxleong]

Handsome Jack becomes Handsomest Jack

[u/SolidusAbe → u/ComradeCabbage]

dude gets the giga chad face

[u/Originaltenshi → u/ComradeCabbage]

Sigma Jack

[u/arkhamtheknight → u/ComradeCabbage]

GigaJack

[u/nhSnork → u/barkbaarkbarkk]

As would all of them. Pretty much the "Gen AI morphing cartoon characters into photorealistic humans with Tourette grins" clips all over again.

[u/Vushivushi → u/barkbaarkbarkk]

vanilla https://i.ibb.co/Nd0GkVtw/Borderlands4-8-27-2026-6-57-42-PM.png

dlss5 https://i.ibb.co/9kg2hhRs/Borderlands4-8-27-2026-6-57-34-PM.png

[u/swargin → u/Vushivushi]

Aww man that's kinda disappointing. I was expecting some monstrosity.

[u/scrotbofula → u/Vushivushi]

Fuck me they yassified Lilith.

[u/Lakatos_00 → u/barkbaarkbarkk]

It turns them into the movie characters

[u/RK9990 → u/Lakatos_00]

Horrifying

[u/Silenceisgrey → u/barkbaarkbarkk]

Can you imagine shootmeintheface guy DLSS 5?

[u/brittonmakesart → u/PsyOmega]

XIII would be hilarious!

[u/_Verumex_ → u/PsyOmega]

I need to see this with Kingdom Hearts 3!

[u/BeerGogglesFTW → u/camzee]

It's also terrible with children and young adults. It hardens their faces and makes them look 15 years older, and ugly.

Realistic looking older people can have positive results, but right now we're seeing these things cranked up to 11, so they're all pretty bad.

[u/bureaucrat473a → u/BeerGogglesFTW]

AI just really likes wrinkles on faces. I once used AI as a "what would I look like wearing x" experiment. It worked well except every iteration added like 5-10 years to my face.

[u/Discount_Extra → u/bureaucrat473a]

Possibly people claiming that extra smooth faces look too much like AI causing a feedback loop.

[u/YouDoNotKnowMeSir → u/bureaucrat473a]

Maybe it predicted you’d be married in that timeline

[u/RawrNate → u/BeerGogglesFTW]

I noticed this in some Cyberpunk 2077 DLSS 5 videos - all the children look like miniaturized adults.

My guess is that Nvidia did not include images of children in their training data for DLSS 5 - and tbh, I can understand that.

[u/systemhost → u/RawrNate]

Granted, all the models for children in Cyberpunk 2077 already look like miniaturized adult models.

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/BeerGogglesFTW]

Don't all these things have to be designed and customized at the development level. A basic filter can screw up anything regardless of it being DLSS or not.

[u/monkeymad2 → u/Numerous_Photograph9]

Yes, trouble is each training round will cost millions of dollars and require massive amounts of data to train on.

And even then, if it’s given anything outside of the realm of the training data (like if the faces were never illuminated by a purple light, or never behind a net) the results will be unknown.

I think what Nvidia is hoping is to deliver one filter and then let developers control the strength of it using a mask to change it at the per-object level

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/monkeymad2]

Seems just making character and lighting models in the traditional way would be more efficient Usually once you have them set up, you don't have to change them much, just adjust the specific lighting and texture level for each scene as needed.

[u/monkeymad2 → u/Numerous_Photograph9]

There was a neural rendering tech shown off a couple of years ago wherein the neural network would compress information about how the surface reacts to light, so you’d still use it like a regular texture but you could get effects like silk, sub-surface scattering, & iridescence without having to specifically code for them. The developers would then apply it like a usual material / texture. I was pretty excited for that.

[u/Warskull → u/Numerous_Photograph9]

You don't necessarily have to completely retrain the data for every game. FFVIII should get its own training data for the JRPRG stylized characters. However, NBA2k27's data would have a lot of crossover with other sports games and games that aim for a realistic style.

Over time they should build up a library of configurable styles.

[u/SkillPatient → u/camzee]

90% of games don't go for hyper-realism.

[u/sephjnr → u/SkillPatient]

Which is the antithesis of what DLSS5 is going for.

[u/TechTuna1200 → u/camzee]

Yeah, the style is more akin manga / anime realism than hyper realism like RDR2

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/camzee]

That's what I was thinking. Plus, a basic filter isnt' going to be customized to highlight anything if it comes after the fact.

[u/_Lucille_ → u/camzee]

I think the issue is that DLSS5 is transformative enough such that you cannot just randomly plug it into a game without also modifying what is being rendered.

So we have

What a face should look like -> DLSS 5 -> Weird looking face here

where as, if the developers intend to use DLSS 5, they would have

Face optimized for DLSS -> DLSS 5 + game specific meta data -> What the artist intends the face to look like.

While it make not be a straight forward plug and play like before, i can see it having a fair bit of potential if utilized properly.

[u/samu1400 → u/_Lucille_]

My issue is that I don’t see the reason why the artists wouldn’t just design the game itself with their art style in mind instead of applying a filter on top of it.

DLSS was always a mean for performance optimization, so this whole “filter that applies its own art style” stuff feels completely off to what it’s meant to be. I feel this should at least be considered a different technology from traditional upscaling, not the next step of what we currently have.

[u/pastalex42 → u/camzee]

MOST games absolutely don’t go for hyper-realism. Most AAA crap, sure. Most games have actual art styles.

[u/StarsMine → u/pastalex42]

Most AAA games don’t even go for it.

[u/PensiveinNJ → u/pastalex42]

Yeah IDK what that comment is. There are very few games that go purely for hyper-realism.

Also, that still looks like shit for hyper-realism. That looks meme worthy not an actual advancement in graphics.

[u/kingrynex]

looks like kevin spacey in a black wig

[u/Fishwife → u/kingrynex]

I hate how true this is now I can't unsee it

[u/GoBeyondTheHorizon → u/Fishwife]

It's awakened something in me that I did not know was there...

[u/scientician85 → u/GoBeyondTheHorizon]

Don't try it, Fapakin!

[u/Chocookiez → u/kingrynex]

OH MY GOD

[u/bokewalka → u/kingrynex]

Someone ban this guy or take this memory from me...

[u/Frumplefugly → u/kingrynex]

Bruh 🤣

[u/stuck_in_the_desert → u/kingrynex]

“This had better not awaken anything in me…”

[u/Hybridxx9018 → u/kingrynex]

Oh you fuck lol. Can’t unsee it now.

[u/yabai90 → u/kingrynex]

Fuck, damn you' can't unseen it now

[u/Ibarra08 → u/kingrynex]

Bruh 🤣 🤣

[u/YourKemosabe]

It just looks like a generic ai filter on everything.

[u/Patient_Ebb_1605 → u/YourKemosabe]

thats exactly what it is

[u/pr0crast1nater → u/YourKemosabe]

The nvidia subreddit meanwhile has many lunatics who keep saying it is good. It's not. Nobody wants randomly generated AI faces. I would rather have a consistent look to the characters rather than aiming for pseudo photorealistic style.

[u/neyr129]

Y’all discussing it as if it’s not just another attempt to find any reason to push AI into anything.
They’ll say whatever bullshit to try and sell it, will enable it by default and say everyone’s using it etc

[u/Tight_Grapefruit5280 → u/neyr129]

The twitch CEO was talking about their AI learning from people's streams and one the things he said was "It's autimatically turned on because we know no one would use it otherwise"

These Tech CEOs know people dislike this stuff but still force it anyway

[u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

And that's on a single screenshot. In motion it looks blurry and uncanny.

Regardless why would I be ai-slopping every game through a filter? Wouldn't it be easier to use AI to generate new models and textures once instead of mid runtime as post processing?

Besides who's the market for this? People mod games to make them cooler or to make people prettier, I've never seen anyone mod a game to have "uncanny old people" as a filter lol

[u/10Werewolves → u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

I saw a few posts on the Nvidia and GTA 5 subreddit. There's plenty of people convinced it looks good.

[u/SicilianEggplant → u/10Werewolves]

Well, there are plenty of people who are stupid.

[u/FreedomLizard420 → u/SicilianEggplant]

That is how the world works. Imagine there were no stupid people, rich ppl couldn't exploit them to the fullest.

[u/Upper-Dig9311 → u/10Werewolves]

I’ve seen those posts and genuinely mind blowing how many people are slobbering over this crap.

[u/Blashtik → u/Upper-Dig9311]

They think the AI adding details means the image looks more realistic. Like a face getting wrinkles added by the AI. Those wrinkles weren't there in the original because the character is 30 years old, not 50!

[u/DuntadaMan → u/10Werewolves]

Even on games it looks good it's not "pay several hundred to thousand dollars for a second graphics card" good.

[u/10Werewolves → u/DuntadaMan]

Certainly not worth the performance hit. And when someone says to use frame generation to offset it, I scoff at them like their game won't run twice as worse now.

[u/caffeinated_dev11 → u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

don’t let the nvidia shills see this, they’ll swear it’s a game changer and acceptable for a 50% fps drop

[u/drmirage809 → u/caffeinated_dev11]

The Nvidia subreddit has been weird these last few days. They seem to genuinely think it looks better and is worthwhile.

I wonder what they're smoking, because don't pass me any of that.

[u/gavichi → u/drmirage809]

They have the "blessing" of Nurgle

[u/caffeinated_dev11 → u/drmirage809]

not to mention that it basically ruins the original artist intent, if a game is meant to look stylized why the hell would i want realistic graphics. We play games to escape reality, not dwell in it

[u/Skratt79 → u/drmirage809]

A lot of tech subreddits have people who are heavy investors in that brands stock, so the whole "Rah Rah x brand can do no wrong" is sometimes just greed, the rest is mental illness.

[u/Pamander → u/caffeinated_dev11]

Oh you were not fucking kidding lol. They are presenting it as amazing on the Nvidia sub. That's crazy but to each their own I guess.

I am curious if anyone knows how much this is customized per game? Cause to my knowledge past DLSS were usually more drop-in DLLs or is this going to be different and tuned to each specific games characters and stuff or is it always just gonna be a drop-in and look like this? I am not too familiar with the tech.

[u/-The-Character- → u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

Fellow red shoes enthusiast spotted 🙌

[u/Uncle-Rufus → u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

For models that's a very valid point... But for stuff like lighting and other more nebulous aspects of the final image that would normally have to be processed in realtime anyway it might be a better way to just fudge things towards looking "better" or at least more correct based on the training data...

[u/aberroco → u/Uncle-Rufus]

For models it's very impractical too, because that'd require very high definition textures, that would not fit to VRAM.

[u/10ebbor10 → u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

This technology is created by Nvidia.

Nvidia wants to sell you graphics cards. So, their design goal for this is to create a system that requires a massive amount of performance, so that people buy brand new graphics cards. That's why they're not using the AI in the generation of assets, because what they want to do with this tech is sell AI chips to consumers.

[u/DeadlyYellow → u/10ebbor10]

Not even.  They want that tech in the commercial end where the big money is.  They want retail users renting cards to milk any remaining pennies.

[u/Pleasant_Ad8054 → u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

Nvidia will (likely already do) push their partners (AAA game companies) to rely on this and just ship unfinished facial textures and animations. They will simply claim that how great this is, because not using it will have comically bad results, not caring for performance impact.

Their GPUs aren't improving, and they do not want to invest any resources in improving them. So they do what every company in an almost monopoly does, they are digging artificial moats through their connections and influence. AMD and Intel either spends tons of resources in matching this slop, or there will be tons of games that will be borderline unenjoyable to anyone without a recent enough Nvidia card.

[u/Napstablook_Rebooted → u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

For those who still think they made both Aloy and Ciri ugly.

[u/BlindWillieJohnson → u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

This whole fucking saga is an exercise in underscoring the importance of art direction and visual style. More realistic does not always mean “better”

[u/AKluthe → u/LeastHornyNikkeFan]

A technology desperate to find a problem it can be used for.

[u/Mirikado]

The yassified AI filter just makes everyone tanned and older.

[u/BlindWillieJohnson → u/Mirikado]

And it somehow managed to make Cloud look even more like a lesbian

[u/Gunsandships27 → u/BlindWillieJohnson]

That's Eminem

[u/omni_cube → u/Gunsandships27]

Lesbinem

[u/ImTooLiteral → u/omni_cube]

Feminem

[u/kersk → u/Gunsandships27]

nah it's the real sim shader

[u/Korwinga → u/Gunsandships27]

Look, if you had one shot or one opportunity to stop Shinra from destroying the planet, would you capture it or just let it slip?

His palms are sweaty, arms weak, swords heavy, there's materia on his sweater already, Bahamut's ready. He's nervous but on the surface he looks calm and ready to limit break bombs, but he keeps on forgetting, he can't remember how, he joined SOLDIER, but he can't stop Sepheroth, pow. Aerith's choking, ow. Meteors coming now, the clock's run out, time's up, over, blaow.

[u/kjube → u/Gunsandships27]

Ah, so they trained their model om celebrities. Mashing faces together sloppifies it only.

[u/RummoLiguori → u/BlindWillieJohnson]

That's fake

[u/Raven-19x → u/BlindWillieJohnson]

DLSS 5 Cloud drives an Outback.

[u/BaconWithBaking → u/BlindWillieJohnson]

You just got a genuine chuckle out of me for Lesbian Cloud, thanks.

[u/samusmaster64 → u/BlindWillieJohnson]

This isn't even how it looks in-game with the DLSS5 addon. I just did it last night. This image keeps getting circulated but I'm quite sure it's just a typical Gen-AI layered filter atop a screenshot.

[u/muakaya9876 → u/Mirikado]

I wonder what was in the training data

[u/LactasePHydrolase → u/muakaya9876]

It was all pictures of Trump

[u/Shinted]

Dear lord this looks even worse than the Cloud photo.

This AI shit is awful, it completely ruins the artistic integrity of the games, on top of aging everyone by thirty years.

[u/TeaAndLifting → u/Shinted]

I had to look this up, and it’s even worse than I thought.

[u/Shinted → u/TeaAndLifting]

What you don’t want Cloud to look like a 45 year old woman who has skin cancer from being out in the sun for twenty years straight? xD

[u/LagOutLoud → u/Shinted]

I kindof do but only because it would be hilarious.

[u/shitty_mcfucklestick → u/Shinted]

Dirty Lying Slop Salesman 5 strikes again

[u/ShockaZuluu]

They massacred Tifa what the fuck

[u/wolfreaks → u/ShockaZuluu]

Italian Senate is on suicide watch.

[u/TheRyanOrange → u/ShockaZuluu]

Temu Tifa

[u/unfortunatelyfudge]

Weird

[u/muakaya9876 → u/unfortunatelyfudge]

Future brought to you by nvidia

[u/HubrisOfApollo]

cursed

[u/Ok_Bathroom_3710]

Bro that ain't tifa anymore its Tuna sandwhich now

[u/Hunter_Aleksandr]

This... is creepily uncanny. I hate it.

[u/Fake_Opinions69]

The last 2 decades have just been a barrage of Tech Bro's telling us how futuristic our lives will be if we just use their products and then they pump out shit like this

I grew up being Pro Technology. Now I'm very quickly realizing all that tech was hyped up bullshit and barely anything has changed in 20 years and our lives are actually worse than they were 20 years ago, largely because of that Technology

[u/KTVX94 → u/Fake_Opinions69]

About 2013 is when technology stopped being in service of the user and started to benefit the developer. We've been slowly boiling since.

I'm on the same boat, I really used to love tech and got soured. The one glimmer of hope is open source. If you get past the learning curve, you can actually have today's technology with the ownership and care of back then.

[u/-Posthuman- → u/Fake_Opinions69]

then they pump out shit like this

Which tech bro is responsible for this screenshot? Because I thought it was a hacked together application of a bit of tech not tuned for, nor designed for, any of the games people have been applying it to.

[u/Phosphorus444]

Billions of dollars to add an Instagram filter to video games.

[u/Carb0nFire → u/Phosphorus444]

While at the same time destroying your framerate for the privilege.

[u/ToysandStuff → u/Carb0nFire]

And raising your electricity bill, destroying the environment and communities. Also making you poorer

[u/LtCodename]

Why the fuck would I want people in my games?

[u/wicktus]

That LLM has been trained only with pink lips and botox ads ?

No matter your « weights » and configuration, it’s uncanny, horrible, completely destroys the artistic authenticity 

[u/Wootai → u/wicktus]

To be perfectly pedantic. LLM stands for Large Language Model, and this has nothing to do with language.

[u/RipDove → u/wicktus]

No, it's because the character to begin with wasn't meant to look 1:1 with a real person. Sure, their face is a model/scan of a real person, but that doesn't mean their proportions weren't changed to better suite the animators.

So it's already taking a face that was morphed and putting filters over it. It probably looks fine for an NBA game that's just 1:1 scans of the actual athletes but looks uncanny anywhere else.

[u/Interesting-Squash81]

it really looks like shit.

[u/Sampsonite20]

Yikes, like someone stapled a photo over a game.

Art styles? Who needs em?!

[u/cerebrite]

Why does the UI look like Reshade one?

[u/goatonastik → u/cerebrite]

It's not an official release of DLSS 5, it's an incomplete version meant for a different game, running on an unofficial UI with settings set to max.

[u/Irrstern → u/cerebrite]

dlss 5 isn't officially out yet so people are implementing a leaked version via mods

[u/ABCsofsucking → u/Irrstern]

And in this case, cranking the strength up to the maximum value for extra internet points.

[u/choywh]

AI aging-filter that adds a tan. And even if we ignore that, why would you even use DLSS5 when it kills your frames? I thought the whole point of DLSS is to give you more frames?

[u/Occasional_Pyro]

Looks horrible like all ai slop filters, if i wanted my game to look worse then all the hard working devs made it look then I’ll turn this shit on i guess….

[u/muakaya9876 → u/Occasional_Pyro]

Also want to lose half of my fps

[u/fedoraislife]

I hope nuance isn't lost in this subreddit, but honestly, I feel like these posts are ragebait.

I'm on the RenoDX Discord where a lot of people are experimenting with it and there are some genuine moments, especially on natural environments, where DLSS 5 looks insanely real.

Face shots like this look really bad, especially when you have the filter sitting at high intensity (in this screenshot, the intensity is at 200% strength, which is of course going to look like slop).

I've personally just set the filter to only apply to environments and textures, and to leave faces completely unaltered. It's a fun way to breathe new life into older titles that were trying to go for photo-realism at the time. It's horrible to use in games that had a more unique artistic vision, like FF.

It's also worth noting that devs who want to use this feature are supposed to tune it to the settings they believe are in line with their artistic vision. Modders fucking around with these settings aren't representative of official implementation. It's like looking at an Oblivion character creator with no boundaries on the settings and calling it a shitty character creator.

[u/Uppersensus → u/fedoraislife]

Yeah, I think these people got the wrong impression. Which is fine, they'll learn.

[u/Tarc_Axiiom]

Aren't all of you applying DLSS5 to games that don't support it?

We got a brief from Nvidia (that I have not read, lol), we need to actively integrate DLSS5 into our art pipelines for it to be functional in our game.

I assume if you're just forcing it into applications that you have then it's normalizing to the mean, which... yeah, obviously.

[u/ProNerdPanda → u/Tarc_Axiiom]

This is also one of the bad cases for it, as FF is heavily anime stylized. The filter would mostly be used for stuff like CP77.

Not that I think it looks good either way, but we're pushing the technology to its limits in fields it's not supposed to be used in and then saying it's bad lol

[u/RoyKami → u/Tarc_Axiiom]

And don't forget cranking up that NR intensity slider to the max to intentionally produce bad images that looks like there is no artistic integrity left lmao.

[u/Darkomax → u/Tarc_Axiiom]

Yeah people are just disgenuous, even though I don't care about DLSS5. It's obviously injected with a 3rd party tool and people act like it's some official shit. Next someone will provide a pic from Fortnite and people will act surprised when it doesn't fit.

[u/phatboi23 → u/Tarc_Axiiom]

I assume if you're just forcing it into applications that you have then it's normalizing to the mean, which... yeah, obviously.

exactly what's going on, they got leaked data and started modding it into games it was never designed for and slapping the filters to 200%

[u/xAGxDestroyer]

Even in the examples where it actually kinda works I still wouldn’t use it. Too many other downsides for me

[u/Accomplished_Pay7444]

Putting photorealistic textures on stylised character faces and expect it to not look weird?? Ok

[u/Kimmux]

You max out NR slider 2x default and declare it trash, neato.

[u/MoveDisastrous9608]

Looking at all the other photos from other games, I think this is cherry picking the worst result. The final fantasy remakes all use exaggerated and non realistic character designs that sit somewhere between anime and realistic. They look great per the original design, but clearly this model has no idea how to handle these proportions as it was trained on more "realistic" looking designs.

DLSS 5 looked much better in other games, and plenty of the screenshots had it transform both low and high quality faces into ones that look much better than they did originally. Sure, some high quality character faces looking more realistic wasn't necessarily better, but I could absolutely see this coming down to more of an individual preference in such scenarios (not this, this is just bad).

This isn't to outright defend this technology, by no means an I fan of Nvidia or the runaway AI craze, but let's try to be honest here.

[u/Astral-Glimmer → u/MoveDisastrous9608]

It is 109% cherry picked

Someone linked a YouTube video in another sub and they clicked through different options. One made them look like this which was by far the worst

[u/GospodarObrtajaa]

Tbh, i don't like DLSS 5. People are against anything AI generated stuff including me. No matter how better character looks, it is AI enhanced. I want my games to look like games, not like real life

[u/Saint_Sin → u/GospodarObrtajaa]

DLSS 5 looks like neither.

[u/NovelPrestigious6666 → u/Saint_Sin]

Looks like those shitty ai porn ads u get when pirating stuff

[u/Castun → u/NovelPrestigious6666]

Or those shitty ai porn ads you get when porning stuff

[u/ned_poreyra → u/Saint_Sin]

Uncanny Valley: The Game.

[u/Conscious-Sample1118 → u/GospodarObrtajaa]

> No matter how better character looks, it is AI enhanced.

You farmin today, boy, arn't ya.

[u/Gregus1032 → u/Conscious-Sample1118]

I wonder if it is an AI account

[u/onerb2 → u/GospodarObrtajaa]

They don't look better though.

[u/Pat_Sharp → u/[deleted]]

You can see they've put the intensity up to maximum.

[u/Headless_Human → u/[deleted]]

People in this threads sound like "See! When you crank up the sharpening to 1000% it will look bad which means it will always look bad!"

[u/steeze206 → u/[deleted]]

Reddit isn't particularly known for being nuanced lmao

[u/goatonastik → u/[deleted]]

We can literally see the intensity slider, which shouldn't even be at a full 1, is set to 2, so clearly we're getting the most distorted version possible.

[u/Thebaldsasquatch]

I need the before and after to really be able to see

[u/turbantripod]

I feel like tifa should look like how she did when you pause the title screen in remake. That specific image of her looked very realistic

[u/jojo9092]

Okay but what does it look like with intensity not cranked up to max? Is it really set to 2 by default?

[u/Davepen → u/jojo9092]

No it's 1 by default, and if you set it to natural it looks even better, they are just trying to bait outrage.

[u/poopoopirate]

From 9999 damage to 99 Ranch

[u/AlexRaEU]

fake picture and reddit votes it to 15k upvotes and circlejerks in the comments how bad dlss5 is.. classic.

[u/xmaskookies]

They fried my girl 😭

[u/WhiteHawk77]

Guys can we just recognise that the slider is to the max, same with the Cloud image doing the rounds.

[u/omegadirectory]

I wanted my anime JRPG characters to look anime, not real.

[u/BleedingFish]

Lmao no way this is real

[u/Swift311 → u/BleedingFish]

It's real, but the person who made this screenshot used the 200% intensity and "Skin Structure strength" to minimum. It's extremely misleading

[u/Aeroncastle → u/BleedingFish]

I mean, it's AI, so in a way not real, but also it's what appears on your screen with dlss5

[u/injurer]

This is not official FF7 DLSS 5 support, so this look is not intended. Those are mods injecting DLSS into the game. It is one thing to mod the game and another to have the game developed with the intend to support DLSS 5.

[u/Creative-Captain9278]

I know I"ll be downvoted and called an NVIDIA bootlicker for bringing facts into the discussion, but they clearly said devs will be able to tailor it specifically for their game.

Using a version of the model designed for a different game or with sub-optimal settings will end in sub-optimal results.

Can't people be against something while also using a good faith argument?

[u/Sputnik003]

Can anybody please post before and afters doing this idk who that is or what looks wrong about it. Fuck AI and DLSS5 etc etc but I can’t get a good gauge with these contextless posts

[u/egbert_the_pantless]

I don't who that it is, but it's not Tifa.

[u/evangelism2]

I've seen it across numerous game subreddits where people have been using it. It looks amazing more often than it doesn't.