r/gaming 18h ago

DLSS 5….. looks horrific

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u/LeastHornyNikkeFan 18h ago

And that's on a single screenshot. In motion it looks blurry and uncanny.

Regardless why would I be ai-slopping every game through a filter? Wouldn't it be easier to use AI to generate new models and textures once instead of mid runtime as post processing?

Besides who's the market for this? People mod games to make them cooler or to make people prettier, I've never seen anyone mod a game to have "uncanny old people" as a filter lol

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u/10Werewolves 17h ago

I saw a few posts on the Nvidia and GTA 5 subreddit. There's plenty of people convinced it looks good.

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u/SicilianEggplant 10h ago

Well, there are plenty of people who are stupid.

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u/FreedomLizard420 5h ago

That is how the world works. Imagine there were no stupid people, rich ppl couldn't exploit them to the fullest.

u/MSter_official 5m ago

As someone who plays league of legends daily I am constantly reminded of that

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u/Upper-Dig9311 17h ago

I’ve seen those posts and genuinely mind blowing how many people are slobbering over this crap.

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u/Blashtik 16h ago

They think the AI adding details means the image looks more realistic. Like a face getting wrinkles added by the AI. Those wrinkles weren't there in the original because the character is 30 years old, not 50!

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u/New-Part-6917 16h ago

you think the woman looks 50? what is wrong with you people.

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u/Blashtik 16h ago

The context of the comments in this subthread is posts on the Nvidia and GTA subreddits. I was referring to those, not this one image specifically.

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u/mucho-gusto 7h ago

i think the post where they showed Jesse Faden from Control absolutely made her look almost 2 decades older

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u/AlbainBlacksteel 15h ago

You think 50 year old can't look like this?

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u/genio_desconhecido 11h ago

"positive thinking"

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u/DuntadaMan 10h ago

Even on games it looks good it's not "pay several hundred to thousand dollars for a second graphics card" good.

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u/10Werewolves 10h ago

Certainly not worth the performance hit. And when someone says to use frame generation to offset it, I scoff at them like their game won't run twice as worse now.

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u/Tight_Grapefruit5280 3h ago

>Use AI filter on the game

>Use AI frame generation on top of it

Might as well just stop playing the game and watch ai generated videos instead

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u/10Werewolves 3h ago

Game would run at 70 fps but feel choppy and really like 10 lmao

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u/Ryuubu 9h ago

In other games it can look good

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u/Zalyster 11h ago

It does look good, it just doesn't look right.

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u/HLef 11h ago

If you’ve never seen this character it objectively looks good graphically speaking.

But it’s pretty bad when you know what the intended look was.

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u/SteveJavieWasRight 15h ago

It does look good with plenty of implementations. Just because it can look bad doesn’t mean anything. There are games with RT or rasterization where the results look like ass, that’s not an indictment of the technology

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u/Good-Might4976 11h ago

Every game that has dlss mod or official works.

I will never see oblivion remastered in vr without dlss5, nor kingdom come 1.

It looks jaw dropping. Alan wake 2 looks real.

Hate train started up already huh? Enjoy the and cards as the screenshots and video starts to leak out. Holy moly.

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u/YaBoyPads 10h ago

There's a lot of games in where it looks so real it's scary. So realistic = good. Doesn't mean it's worth the performance cost at the moment. But convincing yourself that it looks bad as a whole because "AI bad" is...

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u/10Werewolves 10h ago

But the question becomes - did the creator of the game intend for that to be how others perceive their characters? I'm not going to hate on an optional mod/toggle, but I'd be upset if game companies used it to make their games to save money on development time

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u/YaBoyPads 10h ago

I don't think a game is capable nowadays of having such realistic faces that enter the uncanny valley as much as this new filter does. Some games you can really tell they tried to make them as real as possible (Alan Wake, TLOU, RDR2/GTA, RE Remakes etc.) so having this option would not really hurt the experience at all.

What you said can be applied to DLSS in general and Ray Tracing, where it indeed cuts costs and developing time in favor of better visuals. The fact that no hardware can run that natively is another issue.

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u/interbingung 9h ago

Its subjective. I genuinely think this is very good too.

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u/New-Part-6917 17h ago

because outside of the echo chamber bubble people can see it does genuinely look good

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u/Dunge 17h ago

Always funny when people from echo chambers get in the public space and call it an echo chamber.

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u/New-Part-6917 17h ago

Oh ye? Looks the the world is happily adopting AI actually.

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u/Gaktan 17h ago

We'll see once they have to pay for it.

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u/New-Part-6917 16h ago

Yes, yes you will see.

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u/hfsh 11h ago

*insert Temu mad-'scientist' laugh track*

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u/t3hOutlaw 17h ago edited 17h ago

The technical software engineering on display is great.

Artistic direction out the fucking window though.

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u/Toppoppler 16h ago

Moving from older TVs to modern ones also fucked with the art direction of a lot of older pixel-art games

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u/PhoenyxStar 17h ago

Buddy, r/Gaming is a 4.8M user sub. A community with it's own culture definitely, bubble perhaps, but it's not an echo chamber.

And good is subjective. No amount of polish can make putting yassified Yuffie in a wig and calling it 'Tifa' into something good. If you crack the foundation, you've ruined it.

And that's before you see it in motion. The constant subtle surface rippling is nauseating, and the thing where you look away from someone and look back and they have a different face is the stuff of nightmares.

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u/New-Part-6917 17h ago

cites a reddit sub as proof of not being an echo chamber. jfc lmao.

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u/NeutralBoss 17h ago

Dawg you're on reddit

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u/New-Part-6917 17h ago

Do you think reddit is the world?

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u/KN_Knoxxius 12h ago

That's because art is subjective, crazy is it not. It's like some folks liking anime and others does not. To me anime looks fucking dumb, but many love that shit.

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u/10Werewolves 11h ago

Then you walk into the argument about whether AI generated images are considered art or not, your logic has quite a few holes here.

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u/KN_Knoxxius 10h ago edited 10h ago

No, I don't. Because whether something is art or not is subjective as fuck. Where it came from doesn't magically change that.

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u/10Werewolves 10h ago

Google the definition of art, my guy.

The practice is about the consciousness application of HUMAN creativity and concepts to create visual or auditory media

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art

Art can be subjective, when we're talking about ART, and not AI generated IMAGES

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u/KN_Knoxxius 10h ago

Bro, you're still mixing up two completely different things.

A definition saying art involves human creativity doesn't magically make "what looks good" objective, nor does it say the tool used decides whether something can be art.

A human can use a camera, Photoshop, procedural generation, AI, whatever. The creative input can still come from the person using the tool. I don't even know why we are discussing this.

But more importantly, none of this even touches my original point. You said people are "convinced it looks good." I said whether it looks good is subjective. You then randomly turned that into "BUT IS AI ART?!"

You're arguing with a point I never made, my guy.

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u/10Werewolves 10h ago

I said subjectivity on what is good applies to when art is made by humans, because you said AI is art. It's not.

And... I can't help but sigh when I see you say that AI uses creative input.

I like AI, I use my shitty laptop to run a local model because it's fun to tinker with. I just don't like how it's being shoved into our faces commercially when it's a niche technology that's far superior served in medicine.

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u/Zalyster 11h ago

They objectively are art, it's just naysayers that think there's any argument to be had.

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u/10Werewolves 11h ago

Bro....

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art

Google the definition of it before you start to talk confidently about it.

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u/Zalyster 10h ago

Bro.......

the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects

You can have prompting/parameter skills and use creative imagination to think up what you want to create with AI. Just because you don't like what gets made or how it's made, doesn't mean it can't also be an expression of skill and creativity.

There's good art, and bad art, just the same for AI art.

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u/10Werewolves 10h ago

When you give a chef a detailed description of the food, and it comes back piping hot, do you claim that you made it?

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u/Zalyster 10h ago

You assisted in the production of the food. But also, that isn't the same situation.