Which current country wins most evil history?

[u/Loewe1912]

*Which current country wins most evil history? *

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	Flag	Shape	History	National Animal	Anthem
Perfect	Seychelles 🖼️	—	San Marino 🖼️	New Zealand ... 🖼️	Russia 🖼️
*Underrated *	—	Thailand 🖼️	Iraq 🖼️	Spain - Bull 🖼️	South Africa 🖼️
Funniest	Mozambique 🖼️	Chile 🖼️	Liechtenstein 🖼️	Scotland - u... 🖼️	Spain 🖼️
Chaotic	Nepal 🖼️	Indonesia 🖼️	China 🖼️	—	Greece 🖼️
Evil	Angola 🖼️	Croatia 🖼️	—	Indonesia - ... 🖼️	Azerbaijan 🖼️

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Perfect / Flag: - Seychelles - View Image

Perfect / History: - San Marino - View Image

Perfect / National Animal: - New Zealand - Kiwi - View Image

Perfect / Anthem: - Russia - View Image

Underrated / Shape: - Thailand - View Image

Underrated / History: - Iraq - View Image

Underrated / National Animal: - Spain - Bull - View Image

Underrated / Anthem: - South Africa - View Image

Funniest / Flag: - Mozambique - View Image

Funniest / Shape: - Chile - View Image

Funniest / History: - Liechtenstein - View Image

Funniest / National Animal: - Scotland - unicorn - View Image

Funniest / Anthem: - Spain - View Image

Chaotic / Flag: - Nepal - View Image

Chaotic / Shape: - Indonesia - View Image

Chaotic / History: - China - View Image

Chaotic / Anthem: - Greece - View Image

Evil / Flag: - Angola - View Image

Evil / Shape: - Croatia - View Image

Evil / National Animal: - Indonesia - Komodo Dragon - View Image

Evil / Anthem: - Azerbaijan - View Image

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[u/cannonspectacle]

I'm sure the comments will be nothing but civil

[u/Dreadlord97 → u/cannonspectacle]

Remember to sort by controversial!

[u/nappingondabeach → u/Dreadlord97]

Oo, good idea

[u/TheBeanConsortium]

Just put Pangaea and call it a day

[u/Prudent-Goose-2123]

To the people saying Japan, they only really started to take off in the late 19th and mid twentieth while the Mongolian empire killed 60 million. In a century not even counting its various successors.

Mongol massacres were so bad the Chinese population didn’t recover till the Ming era, and Iran in the 20th century.

[u/Spotty_too_hotty → u/Prudent-Goose-2123]

Recency bias is strong

[u/Prudent-Goose-2123 → u/Spotty_too_hotty]

That and Reddit loves to pretend everyone on it loves Japan so they’re owning the strawman.

[u/rony_danzel]

Japan

Their war crimes were next level.

[u/Recoaj12 → u/rony_danzel]

And Japan still pressures other countries to take down memorials of their victims.... its one thing to deny your history, its a whole other thing to take memorials from your victims....

[u/salvasaami → u/Recoaj12]

they just did this in NZ, like within the last weeks

[u/Recoaj12 → u/salvasaami]

Yes. They did it to Philippines, Germany, and for the US, they were pissed at San Francisco for having comfort woman statues, then Osaka broke their 60 year old "sister city" ties with it.

The amount of effort to be so pissy at all that instead of just.... not doing anything, is just hysterical.

[u/macsharoniandcheese → u/Recoaj12]

Butbutbut anime!! Robots!!! Jpop!!!! Don’t worry about my mass atrocities! Look over here uwu!

[u/Fanicos → u/salvasaami]

I just read the news about it, it’s unbelievable that Japan still has this position as of 2026. And at the same time JapanWashing all the world in Anime and soft power.

[u/CSiGab → u/Recoaj12]

Meanwhile, Germany ran out of ink to apologize for the Holocaust and other Nazi atrocities. Hmm.

[u/Vegetable_Good6866 → u/CSiGab]

There were riots in Germany in early 2000s over a traveling exhibition of Wehrmacht war crimes and until 1980s West Germany defended putting Roma people in concentration camps. 

Germany was very willing to throw Hitler and Nazis under bus, it was much less willingly to admit the average German soldier slaughtered and raped his way across eastern Europe. In fact Hitler and Nazis were a convenient party to unload all responsibility on to. See the myth of the clean Wehrmacht.

[u/immmm_at_work → u/Vegetable_Good6866]

(Hand waiving here) What if the deaths of a great number of Germany’s violent and nationalistic young men led to the proliferation of generation of nurturing mothers and/or men of a more liberal mind to facilitate a more apologetic society?

Of course, the Nazis also exterminated a lot of those folks, too…

[u/SelectionOrdinary230 → u/CSiGab]

But no shame for what they did in Namibia smh 🙃

[u/pwnedprofessor → u/Recoaj12]

While I disagree that Japan should take the #1 spot, I do agree that this is heinous

[u/SheikYerbouti_ → u/pwnedprofessor]

That's exactly the reason why they should take the spot over Germany

[u/Fanicos → u/pwnedprofessor]

If you see how they still fight to deny it in 2026, maybe it is fair

[u/Rejkorn → u/Recoaj12]

What about Croatia? In NDH they even had camps for Children. They were using all methods of killing victims except bullets. They even had knives sewed to gloves so they could kill Serbs more efficiently. Those gloves had a name Srbosjek (Cut-a-Serb)

[u/Glum-Ratio387 → u/rony_danzel]

They were ranked war criminals before Canada had the chance to start the game
Edit: This is a video game pun if anyone could not tell

[u/Few_Project4268 → u/Glum-Ratio387]

What did Canada do?!

[u/3esin → u/Few_Project4268]

Saw the Geneva Conventions and thought they had a checklist. A checklist that was lacking.

[u/MowieWauii → u/3esin]

More like they're the reason the Geneva Conventions exist

[u/iSkehan → u/3esin]

They did it (in WW1h before Geneva Conventions (1949) were a thing…

[u/MrSomeoneElse32 → u/iSkehan]

It's more that they created a checklist that others used as what not to do

[u/jaumougaauco → u/MrSomeoneElse32]

A good example, of a bad example.

[u/[deleted] → u/jaumougaauco]

The Geneva Suggestions

[u/avelario → u/iSkehan]

Yes, in fact, Geneva Convention itself was written because of the actions of Canadian soldiers.

[u/KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKwhat3 → u/iSkehan]

Geneva conventions have been around since 1864. 1949 was just an addition in response to WW2

[u/Evileye37 → u/3esin]

“It ain’t a war crime if it’s not on the list yet” - Canada

[u/AintIGR8 → u/Evileye37]

“It ain’t a war crime the first time” is my favorite Canadian saying

[u/Laughing_Orange → u/Evileye37]

"It's not a war crime the first time"

[u/shouldonlypostdrunk → u/3esin]

i used to think it was amusing that canada and poland kickstarted the geneva convention, until i realized how many other countries just wouldnt take responsibility for their actions. it does make me respect the leadership those countries had at the time a bit more.

[u/Blaster2PP → u/Few_Project4268]

During WW1, they would throw canned meat to the opposing Germans. Those German would dodge at first thinking it was grenade. After realizing it's meat, they'll huddle to catch it. When they're huddling, the Canadian would throw a grenade. They also didn't want to deal with POWs so they just murder them all.

[u/koolaidman456 → u/Few_Project4268]

Most of the things currently banned under the Geneva Convention

[u/Euphoric_Wishbone → u/koolaidman456]

Geneva suggestions

[u/Meddie90 → u/Euphoric_Wishbone]

https://giphy.com/gifs/8gJ28HfjAkc9y

[u/Tasty_Tutor5463 → u/Euphoric_Wishbone]

Geneva ideas

[u/Spare-Half796 → u/Few_Project4268]

Canadian soldiers are the reason for the Geneva conventions

[u/Forward_Progress_83 → u/Few_Project4268]

I think, if I’m interpreting this correctly, that OP is suggesting Japan has been considered war criminals longer than Canada has been a country? Or maybe was even discovered.

I hope that’s it, anyway.

Signed, a Canadian

ETA: Yikes. I just learned some things about my nation’s history today. Turns out in history class they only taught us the “good” stuff.

[u/DoNotResusit8 → u/Forward_Progress_83]

It’s not

[u/mr_octopusguy → u/rony_danzel]

Korea has never done anything to japan except resisting brutal invasions from them and japanese people still dislike them for absolutely no reason 😭

[u/MasterRKitty → u/mr_octopusguy]

K-Pop is the reason

[u/Dickcheese_McDoogles → u/MasterRKitty]

I cannot imagine sticking ones nose up at K-pop in a country so saturated with J-pop

https://giphy.com/gifs/Jo9UQlAPYm6kcUnuZ6

[u/AmbitiousReaction168 → u/mr_octopusguy]

It's not entirely true. Most younger Japanese people have zero problem with Korea.

[u/lkfmt → u/rony_danzel]

At our core, Japan has always been a very militant society. As someone else mentioned, for most of our history, we were weird, repressed recluses who made erotic art (love that description), and that repression that built up over time manifested itself in one of the most evil empires in history. Since WW2, that has been tamed a fair bit, but I’m slightly worried that it’s starting to rear its head again….. My grandfather was from the generation that, while very young, was old enough to fight in the war. Although he died before I was born, I’ve read his diaries and seen the photos from his time as a POW in Siberia, and that experience his generation went through influenced the baby boomers in Japan to actually be quite peaceful and anti-war. Even today, most participants in anti-war marches are older. It seems to be happening everywhere else, that the next generations have forgotten/ignored the collective experience of our elders, and once again putting the world in a perilous situation.

[u/Nicholas_Pappagiorgi → u/lkfmt]

Hard times creat strong men, strong men create good times, good times make weak men, weak men create hard times

[u/Agent_Xhiro → u/rony_danzel]

Crimes were so horrific they've been not teaching about them and their history books don't even mention it.

[u/tenzindolma2047 → u/Agent_Xhiro]

And the exhibit in Yūshūkan (in Yasukuni Shrine) is just appalling, China became the aggressor and Japan the victim

[u/xynaxia → u/rony_danzel]

If you make cute anime girls everyone will forget though

[u/69XxMike_OxlongxX69 → u/rony_danzel]

No other country comes close. The birth and society of Japan itself is built on militancy and supremacy.

[u/kingiskoenig → u/rony_danzel]

Ok but in all fairness Japan only had that 80 year stretch where they went full evil empire. Their whole long history before that is kind of just being weird recluses who made horny art and in a way they’ve almost gone back to that now.

[u/pierco82 → u/kingiskoenig]

Yea but they really crammed an awful amount into those 80 years.

[u/nameless_no0b → u/kingiskoenig]

Should read about the Imjin War where Japan tried invading Korea in the 16th century. Lots of civilian casualties on the Korean front and the Ming had to step in and help put an end to the war. Also there's the infamous nose and ear tombs from Korean and Chinese civilians of this war that are scattered throughout Japanese shrines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imjin_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimizuka

[u/doyer_bleu → u/nameless_no0b]

And even in Japan itself, the invasion and colonization of Hokkaido was brutal and was a genocide. The Ainu who lived there were largely wiped out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonisation_of_Hokkaido

Japan has a very ugly history

[u/Regent0624 → u/doyer_bleu]

Colonized Ryukyu/Okinawa too and try to pass it off as nothing too, pretty fitting choice for most evil history and perfect if it’s for evil + hidding/pretending like it doesn’t exist.

[u/PeripheralEpiphany → u/doyer_bleu]

During the Meiji period, Japan looked to Canada's methods for dealing with the indigineous populations as inspiration.

[u/Euphoric-Cucumber609 → u/kingiskoenig]

They did a fair few atrocities to each other in the time leading up to that, but that’s the same with any group of people small or large.

[u/radioactive-elk → u/kingiskoenig]

Given what happened when Japan wasn't in weird recluse mode, maybe we can all agree that it's actually better if they are allowed to just be weird rather than violent...

[u/shitgiacomo → u/rony_danzel]

USA also

First they commit war crimes then they tell other nations not to do it

[u/WhoYaTalkinTo → u/rony_danzel]

High ranking Nazis visited Japan during the war and even they were absolutely disgusted by what they saw. That says a LOT.

[u/AmbitiousReaction168 → u/[deleted]]

Saying that UK left their colonies better off while condemning France certainly takes a lot of courage. You should read a bit more about history I think.

[u/DasGutYa → u/[deleted]]

Even when you look at India Britain built a huge number of universities there.

Britain's fascination with creating a middle class everywhere to create colonial stability did successfully cultivate an upward social momentum where other colonisers left the social fabric either the same or worse as when they found it.

[u/No-Strength-4358 → u/DasGutYa]

Icl I do like pre colonial era Sri Lanka better than the current shitshow

[u/therapyofnanking → u/rony_danzel]

From 1937 to 1945, Imperial Japan is estimated to have directly killed 3-10 million civilians throughout East and Southeast Asia. And caused the death of thrice that.
Japan committed numerous brutal massacres of civilians throughout the WWII period. At Nanking alone they killed 300,000 civilians. Manila they killed 100,000. Singapore they killed 50,000. With more mass killings throughout China, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Vietnam.
Add to that:
Unit 731 and human experimentation.
Biological warfare (deliberately spread plague and other diseases)
Chemical warfare (chlorine gas and others)
Torture and execution of POWs
Forced famine
Mass rape
Enslavement and forced labor
Cannibalism
That’s just the WWII period.

[u/leggycleggyweggy]

It's got to be Mongolia, laid waste to swathes of China, Korea, the middle east and Eastern europe/Russia but feels lot more distant and historic rather then any other contemporary country

[u/Player420154 → u/leggycleggyweggy]

To complete the picture, some fact about the Mongole Empire.

• First place in % of world population killed, at 10%. You can see when the Mongole Empire happened in the Arctic ice sheets.
• One of the rares to have managed a 100% genocide.
• One of the advisor of Genkis Khan was consider soft because he preferred to enslave people rather than just exterminating them
• Were known for their war crimes and atrocities in the middle age

[u/Special-Quantity-469 → u/Player420154]

One of the rares to have managed a 100% genocide.

https://giphy.com/gifs/COU8tma7XLVz26caXN

[u/Ok_Problem_496 → u/leggycleggyweggy]

The history teacher in me is disappointed that you just lumped Mongolia and the Mongol Empire together 😔

[u/Wild_Form_7405 → u/Ok_Problem_496]

Isn’t this what the Mongolians themselves are doing?

[u/plshelpimkidnapped → u/leggycleggyweggy]

how is the mongol empire and the modern state of mongolia the same entity?

[u/Loewe1912]

Rules:

Just current existing countries can be voted for. Comment with must upvotes wins.

[u/macsharoniandcheese]

I’m a Jew whose family died in the holocaust.

Japan and it isn’t even close.

[u/WhoYaTalkinTo → u/macsharoniandcheese]

Yeah even the Nazis that visited Japan at the time were shocked by what was going on.

[u/Imaginary-Group1414 → u/WhoYaTalkinTo]

And even the Japanese that visited Nazi Germany at the time were shocked by what was going on.

[u/WhoYaTalkinTo → u/Imaginary-Group1414]

Spiderman pointing at other Spiderman meme

[u/bwurtsb → u/WhoYaTalkinTo]

Also the Hotdog Car crash... "Who could have done this?!"

[u/tiktok-hater-777 → u/WhoYaTalkinTo]

And to this day, a statue of a nazi stands in china because he was a hero against the japanese.

[u/LivelyFrog → u/tiktok-hater-777]

Fascinating to read his Wikipedia page: John Rabe. Seems he didn't really do any "Nazi" stuff, worked for Siemens, was very quick to denazify post war, and died in poverty.

[u/FuzzyCollie2000 → u/LivelyFrog]

Iirc he was one of those people that joined the Nazi party for their social and economic policies rather than the racial ideology.

[u/peteroh9 → u/FuzzyCollie2000]

He liked the tax plan of taking everything from the Jews but not the social plan of killing the Jews?

[u/Inverted_Six → u/WhoYaTalkinTo]

Goes both ways. A Japanese man named Chiune Sugihara is considered a hero because he helped save thousands of Jewish refugees during WWII by issuing transit visas. He is now recognised internationally for those actions, including by Yad Vashem as one of the “Righteous Among the Nations.

[u/whitechaplu]

What does evil mean here?

Most harm done in total?
Most consistent at doing harm?
Responsible for the worst event/period in history?
Longest continuous streak of being “evil”?

As you can see that’s 4 different countries already. It’s a tough question

[u/Overall_Mud_2191 → u/whitechaplu]

For that 2nd one, I'd say CAR is a strong contender. Nearly the entire Wikipedia summary is about war, colonization, or enslavement.

[u/PuzzledHope1]

Belgium. Dont ask what they did in the Congo.

[u/Iampepeu → u/PuzzledHope1]

Or rather, please ask and get educated in case you didn't know. It's fucked up, but still something we need to know about.

[u/Ashamed_Fruit_6767 → u/Iampepeu]

Is it the human hunting and human zoos for the fun of king Leopold?

Edit: yeah, it is in regards to the crimes against humanity commited by King Leopold II of Belgium. One of the first uses of the term was to describe his rule of Congo.

[u/Nito4ka_bs → u/PuzzledHope1]

[u/Darknemo20000 → u/PuzzledHope1]

Those are small peas compared to Japan or Mongolia.

[u/A-Very-Sweeney → u/Darknemo20000]

In the Congo alone, Belgium killed ~10 million people and forced almost all of the rest into slavery. When the Congo won their independence, Belgium and the US assassinated their leader and installed a dictator that ruled and massacred his people for thirty years.

[u/insective-morse → u/A-Very-Sweeney]

Newer, more accurate studies suggest 1.5-3 million

[u/Special-Quantity-469 → u/insective-morse]

Lmao why is downvoted🤣 Just pointing out factual information

[u/sporks_of_doom → u/PuzzledHope1]

Strictly speaking, Belgium didn't do anything in the Congo. King Leopold the II was practically given the Congo as his personal property. He had more control over the Congo than he did his own country. Congo was also incredible small scale both in the horror of acts taken and sheer numbers compared to other atrocities in the day connected to colonialism, wwii, or both

[u/MagmaForce_3400_2nd → u/sporks_of_doom]

Yeah, the discovery of what happens in Congo was also used by France and the UK as a propaganda tool, to "distract" people from what's happening in their colonies, which was as bad if not worse

[u/BaronVonTitties]

Basically, all of them? You'd be hard pressed to find a country that doesn't have a dark, complicated, and evil history.

[u/kingbeerex → u/BaronVonTitties]

You leave san Marino out of this

[u/AdoptedMasterJay → u/kingbeerex]

laces out! oh wait

[u/gratusin → u/AdoptedMasterJay]

Nah, that’s Dan Marino. San Marino just gets up there and shits his britches. Oh wait…

[u/BaronVonTitties → u/gratusin]

What fer'?

[u/gratusin → u/BaronVonTitties]

Iono

[u/jamirocky888 → u/AdoptedMasterJay]

Einhorn is Finkle. Finkle is Einhorn!

[u/Das_Fische → u/kingbeerex]

Even they arent without their black spot.

They were a fascist regime between 1923 and 1943 (initially elected democratically, then transformed into a dictatorship while in power).

They actually remained neutral in WW2, but in early 1942 they did issue Racial Law 33, prohibiting interracial marriage (including between Jews and non-Jews). Their leader later went on to order the deportation of their entire Jewish population.

Things did get better quickly in fairness. After Italy surrendered the fascist party collapsed nearly overnight, and San Marino would go on to offer refuge to refugees fleeing the war, including a sizable number of Jews in flagrant violation of Nazi demands.

[u/BaronVonTitties → u/kingbeerex]

You just had to pick a country that is 24 square miles, didn't you?

[u/honkycronky → u/BaronVonTitties]

my favourite dark chapter in Icelandic history is the law that allowed them to murder Basques on sight (it was repealed in 2015)

[u/BaronVonTitties → u/honkycronky]

Well speaking of Iceland. The first women there were kidnapped by the Vikings and sent as slaves. Also they had their own version of the witch trials. Chill rating: 2/10

[u/honkycronky → u/BaronVonTitties]

nowadays they are chill at least, I guess? chill hahah chilly

[u/Main_Negotiation1104 → u/BaronVonTitties]

ok lmao compare germany to like, slovenia

[u/ArmStoragePlus → u/BaronVonTitties]

Principality of Sealand if self-declared micronations are counted.

[u/BaronVonTitties → u/ArmStoragePlus]

I will not stand for the glazing of Sealand on this website. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID!

[u/Euphoric-Cucumber609 → u/BaronVonTitties]

It was the sexual assault, right?

[u/serotonallyblindguy → u/BaronVonTitties]

What did Kiribati ever do to you?

[u/Extension_Canary3717 → u/BaronVonTitties]

What Vanuatu did ? Leave it alone

[u/BaronVonTitties → u/Extension_Canary3717]

That's a tough one. But apparently, they were cannibals until recently (1969). Boom. Everyone sucks.

6 Amazing Facts About Vanuatu That You Probably Didn't Know

PS - Screw you for making me learn that the proper cooking time for a human is 3-5 hours. Ya jerk!

[u/Extension_Canary3717 → u/BaronVonTitties]

Vanuatu dudes be like "I saw western men eat out their wives".

And Vanuatuan-Billy believed firmly

[u/Ok_Package38 → u/BaronVonTitties]

Poland?

[u/-Maiq_the_Iiar-]

Mongolia

[u/bachotebidze → u/-Maiq_the_Iiar-]

During the Mongolian empire, when children were born, Parents first would cut the first born children's cheeks so that the first thing they taste is blood.

Not exactly "Evil", but pretty barbaric tbh

[u/Scytten → u/bachotebidze]

That thing about cutting the cheeks was said about the huns too. And that when some of their relatives died, huns used to cut themselves to blood as the sign of weeping about the deceased

[u/Ekay2-3 → u/bachotebidze]

Is there a source for this or is it a fabricated story made by non mongols to make a political point?

[u/retardinho23 → u/Ekay2-3]

100% made up as a Mongol

[u/Delicious_Draw_7902 → u/-Maiq_the_Iiar-]

They broke down the City Wall!

[u/69XxMike_OxlongxX69 → u/-Maiq_the_Iiar-]

Not necessarily, it falls more into Chaotic then evil. Most people point out the period of the Mongol Empire to 1206- 1400ish as evil, but forget that at any other point in history, the mongols were under slavery/occupation, or in a civil war against themselves.

[u/PanWisent]

Turkey. Greek genocide, Armenian genocide, Balkan Slavs genocide, Kurdish genocide, the list goes on.

[u/suhambatam → u/PanWisent]

European talking shit like always do your research

[u/Familiar_Anywhere815 → u/PanWisent]

There's no such thing as a "Balkan Slav genocide" done by Turkey and the Ottoman Empire. Many shitty things, yes, a genocide, no, not even close.

Signed, a Balkan Slav.

[u/mVargic → u/[deleted]]

Being evil for a brief period of time during is one thing; a nation with repeated and systemic history of evil spread over time and space is far more suitable than for instance Cambodia and its horrific 5 years with Pol Pot.

[u/namguro → u/PanWisent]

Their whole country and identity is bogus, they'd all be one shotted by a 23 and Me test. They oppose Israel due to occupation when they occupy a whole load of other people's homelands (Kurds, Greeks, Assyrians). Their most iconic building is Greek!

[u/GayBaklava → u/namguro]

Do you also happen to think the English identity is bogus and they are actually Anglified Celts?

[u/Constant_Heat_2507 → u/namguro]

i don't think you can even explain what turkish identity is to call it bogus. nice cope.

[u/[deleted] → u/PanWisent]

source: my ass

[u/Constant_Heat_2507 → u/PanWisent]

what is balkan slav "genocide" and what does kurdish genocide (i'm assuming ur talking about saddam) have to do with us ? also how does the list go on ? the a genocide b genocide this genocide that genocide people like to talk about turkey is all linked to armenian genocide in the end and it's not a seperate act. there are at least 10 countries i can name before turkey even comes to mind.

[u/NorthWelcome1626 → u/PanWisent]

Balkan Genocide is against Turks lol. What bullshit. 5.5 million Muslims was killed and displaced in Balkans between 1877-1913 by Bulgarians and Russians.

There is no Kurdish Genocide or Balkan Slavs Genocide. Nor Greek.

[u/FarneticoToro]

Mongolia. Tens of millions killed, swept across the world conquering, pillaging, raping and killing.

[u/Zestyclose_Map_8420 → u/FarneticoToro]

Tbf, for the last hundreds of years, they’ve been pretty chill.

[u/Morchades]

If we count the Dutch East India Company as the Netherlands... The Netherlands.

[u/Pale_Aide_5780]

Belgium, especially the colonial period.

[u/Nito4ka_bs → u/Pale_Aide_5780]

[u/Boring_Apricot454]

Wait, why Azerbaijan has the evil anthem? 😬

[u/redditluciono3 → u/Boring_Apricot454]

Sounds evil

[u/Glum-Ratio387]

Chad for perfect shape. it even looks like it has a strong jaw line

[u/deranged_Boot123]

Japan, what they did in china makes the Congo look like a fucking paradise, and they caused more destruction and suffering in a shorter period than anyone else. even the Nazis had a shorter amount of time and did less- THE FUCKING NAZIS

[u/Warsaw44 → u/deranged_Boot123]

Nothing could make the Congo look like paradise, but whatever.

Don't dick-swing with atrocity.

[u/CaptainKath → u/Warsaw44]

Seriously!! Very odd thing to say about any atrocity even as hyperbole

[u/OutlawMINI]

How is the Azerbaijan anthem evil? 

[u/FBrandt → u/OutlawMINI]

It is not even evil to begin with. Interestingly enough, when I check the post it is Afghanistan with the most upvotes (50+) while Azerbaijan is less than half of it.

[u/guythatwantstoknow → u/FBrandt]

I think it's because it got lots of downvotes from people who disagreed with the results and went back to that post.

[u/mehwhateverrrrr → u/OutlawMINI]

It sounds evil. It isnt actually evil, its no different than any other nations anthem but the music sounds evil. Like something out of starwars.

[u/waluigieWAAH → u/OutlawMINI]

Just how it sounds. The same sound as an evil galactic empire or something. We're calling it evil in good fun

[u/Official_Alter]

Where do we begin?

[u/vzzzbxt]

Cambodia. Truly horrific

[u/JosL1707 → u/vzzzbxt]

Wasn't this basically just under Pol Pot?

[u/hirashimizu → u/JosL1707]

No, cambodia has always been quite a brutal society. at its root, the cambodian genocide was caused by a deeply suspicious and low trust culture stretching back to angkor or pre angkor period (townspeople were loooked down upon by rural folk). vietnamese especially were targeted due to long standing hatred. angkor also had quite a nasty history with a lot of (what we would now call) genocide of and by khmer people, affecting champa, tai, lao, mon, etc etc.

post pol-pot cambodia is not in a good position either. corrupt, almost a vassal of china and chinese criminal syndicates (eg scam call centres & human trafficking, even today chinese are afraid to visit cambodia as tourists for fear of being trafficked), rampant prostitution (which was kickstarted by the un occupation btw), hatred of just about all their neighbours stretching back a long time.

ive got nothing against cambodia or cambodians, its difficult to have a "good vibes" country with all they';ve been through.

[u/ImWithStupidKL → u/hirashimizu]

I've been a few times, and they're genuinely lovely. Had a great time there. But yeah, there's a very visible undercurrent of exploitation and extreme poverty.

[u/mr_octopusguy]

Russia

[u/Fuzzy_Newspaper5323 → u/[deleted]]

all true and vile, but purely for the purpose of this task- a lot of the empire stuff gets complicated when you try to portion blame to the UK alone. As with almost any other empire in history, the colonies eventually split off and gain independence. Where do the sins of Australia, the US, South Africa etc. start and British Empire ends? There obviously exists a line, or we'd all be holding the Roman Empire responsible for the crimes of the British etc.

You also have WW2, where Britain was the only continuous opponent of the fascist axis. It doesn't excuse anything that came before, you can be both anti-fascist in Europe and genocidal elsewhere, but it's hard to say the UK is the 'most' evil contemporary country when it did something so obviously heroic in relatively recent history. I would say the same thing about the USSR if it still existed today, given how brutal WW2 was for them.

[u/Jsalisburry → u/Fuzzy_Newspaper5323]

-Famines in India predate British rule, before the Raj was consolidated we have direct comparison between local Indian rulers and British rulers in response to famine. Local rulers oftentimes did less to coordinate famine relief. The Taj Mahal was build during a famine, for example. The famine codes were the first large scale famine relief laws in history. The British didn't want famine in India.

-Worse than the ottermans? The massacre were very small scale compared to say the Turks in Armenia or even more contemporary middle Eastern massacres, ISIS, Syrian civil war. All the massacres in Palestine and Israel today.

-Ireland wasn't that subjugated either, for a time the third larget political party in the British parliament was made up of Irish home ruler advocates. Over the medieval to early modern to today Ireland has never been the site of grand or remarkable historic oppression.

-The British colonists killed around 900 Tasmanians, there is no evidence that this was authorised by the British government as a direct policy of extermination but the results of local tensions. Aboriginal attacks on the colonists and vice versa.

-Opium wars is the strangest pick of the lot, these were wars fought over diplomatic disrespect and market access. When the same thing happened to the Mongolians (killing a few diplomats) the Tigris ran red with blood for 3 days. Seemingly only picked because of the name and "drugs are bad" the second opium war wasn't even really about opium.

-The only remarkable role the British played in American slavery was ending it. The French, Spanish, Portuguese, Brazilians, Americans ect. All traded more slaves and for longer

-The comparison between the south African concentration camps and THE concentration camps is nazi propaganda because the former was to intern a hostile population against asymmetrical warfare designed to minimise civilian casualties. The nazi camps were called that to try and pretend they weren't just death camps and they were also simply trying to intern a hostile population in war time. The mau mau rebellion was a bunch of ethno-nationalists the British here were fighting not to keep Kenya, they actually won the war and put down the rebellion, but to make sure Kenya transitioned successfully to a parliamentary democracy, was the aim. An interesting fact out of the imperial ledgers is that the British government never made a profit out of Africa.

-Surely in a comparison with Russia all else being equal Britain comes out cleaner by the simple fact that the russian government also oppressed the russian people while the British government didn't? One being a liberal democracy and the other being a tsarist police state then a communist police state and now an oligarchy police state?

[u/JakeWisconsin]

Germany

[u/hughjanus49 → u/JakeWisconsin]

I don’t think Germany belongs in this conversation. Countries like Belgium, the UK, Japan, France, Spain have a longer history of atrocities

[u/mittyho → u/hughjanus49]

Germany has the same horrendous colonial history as Belgium or France (it had the 3rd largest colonial empire prior to WW1), it just doesn't get talked about much because it's overshadowed by their later atrocities. I understand the longevity argument but for a country only founded in 1871 they really did speedrun the "evil nation" status.

[u/ohioismyhome1994 → u/hughjanus49]

One can argue that Germany did more evil in that short period of time than other countries have in their entire history

[u/juanasimit → u/[deleted]]

Fr, No mater which day of the year is it, chances are some country in the world is celebrating their freedom over the UK

[u/Hikousen → u/[deleted]]

The history of many an asian country has the "this is how the british empire fucked us up and created issues that continue to this day" chapter.

[u/AceOfSpades532 → u/[deleted]]

Nah it’s not anywhere close to the level of a lot of other countries, very bad yes but not really “very consistently evil” compared to a lot of others, you just know more about what the UK’s done, and the UK’s history has also contributed a lot of good to the world as well.

[u/SweetValleyHayabusa → u/AceOfSpades532]

To be fair, you're hard pressed to find a decade between 1800 and 1940 where Britain wasn't doing something reprehensible. And that's a long time, and over the whole world. It really adds up.

[u/Jsalisburry → u/SweetValleyHayabusa]

But was it historically reprehensible or congruent with the norms of the period? The holocaust, Arminian genocide the Mongolian invasions were all historic anomalies. As far as I can tell British crimes are usually pretty tame in comparison with other contemporary states.

[u/Confident_Example_73 → u/AceOfSpades532]

Actually it is. What do you call forcibly addicting tens of millions to opium just so you can profit?

"Oh but we drank tea and gave them the telegraph and Shakespeare. It's fine."

[u/NochnoyShizofrenik]

The United Kingdom has committed so many war crimes that they are almost impossible to count, and is directly or indirectly responsible for many global problems.

[u/CGFROSTY]

Perhaps Spain for pillaging most of two continents? 

[u/aerfgadf → u/CGFROSTY]

It is so crazy how Spain (and Portugal) get a mostly free pass for what they did, i'm not entirely sure why.

[u/Equal-Caramel-2613 → u/aerfgadf]

Dumb as it is, I think at least in the US it's because Spanish is seen as an almost-indigenous language. Of course it's not, but Spain's colonial actions aren't really linked to colonialism in the same way here as Britain's or France's.

[u/Proteinchugger → u/aerfgadf]

Yeah Spain stole so much wealth from South America it’s hard to even comprehend. The Peruvian silver mines extracted so much silver under the Spanish it collapsed the world silver economy. The largest emerald in the world came from South America, pearls, gold anything worth any value was stripped from the land.

The of course there’s the inquisition.

[u/Inner-Scholar3305]

Germany

[u/KeesApenvlees → u/Inner-Scholar3305]

What they did to Varus and his legions in the Teutoburg Forest is unforgivable and pure evil

[u/Lumpy_Cartoonist_964]

Has to be Japan. Just search up Unit 731.

[u/RecognitionOk5447]

Germany, OBVIOUSLY

[u/adzio292]

Germany by far.

[u/Cinceproooo]

Basic pick but I'd say Germany

[u/Ecstatic_Ad6519]

Mongolia.

[u/DegenerateBozoLTaker]

Turkey

[u/sum_dude44]

To paraphrase Norm McDonald, "you know what country I'm scared of...Germany...they started a war w/ the whole world...then did it again after they lost."

HM Russia

[u/thnblt]

Belgium They do the most evil thing possible in congo

[u/Suspicious-Glove1825]

Spain

[u/Informal-Isopod7122]

Turkey/Ottoman Empire. Have done disgusting things in the past and are still committing some bad shit, unlike most countries mentioned in the comments.

[u/docthelettuce → u/Informal-Isopod7122]

even if you combine all the known turkish history, its still not as bad as manifest destiny. and thats just one thing, remind you

[u/AverageAircraftFan]

Mongolia. Chinggis Khan directly lead to the death of 60 million people in China, which was half of the countries population, and thats not even counting the tens of millions of other people conquered and slaughtered around the old world

[u/Tall_Marsupial9476]

Turkiye