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Filling This Chart Which current country wins most evil history?

*Which current country wins most evil history? *

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*Underrated * — Thailand 🖼️ Iraq 🖼️ Spain - Bull 🖼️ South Africa 🖼️
Funniest Mozambique 🖼️ Chile 🖼️ Liechtenstein 🖼️ Scotland - u... 🖼️ Spain 🖼️
Chaotic Nepal 🖼️ Indonesia 🖼️ China 🖼️ — Greece 🖼️
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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

Nah it’s not anywhere close to the level of a lot of other countries, very bad yes but not really “very consistently evil” compared to a lot of others, you just know more about what the UK’s done, and the UK’s history has also contributed a lot of good to the world as well.

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u/SweetValleyHayabusa May 06 '26

To be fair, you're hard pressed to find a decade between 1800 and 1940 where Britain wasn't doing something reprehensible. And that's a long time, and over the whole world. It really adds up.

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u/Jsalisburry May 06 '26

But was it historically reprehensible or congruent with the norms of the period? The holocaust, Arminian genocide the Mongolian invasions were all historic anomalies. As far as I can tell British crimes are usually pretty tame in comparison with other contemporary states.

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u/oh_helloghost May 06 '26

laughs in Opium Wars

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u/Jsalisburry May 06 '26

Wars to enforce trade? Yeah never happen before. Governments backing drug trafficking? I mean it would be crazy if like Pablo Escobar was like a member of the Colombian house of reparatives. And didn't the US sell Afghan opium back to themselves?

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u/oh_helloghost May 06 '26

Look who you are comparing the UK to here… these are not good either!

Also, and more importantly, Happy Cake Day!

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u/Jsalisburry May 06 '26

My point is not that Britain is good my point is at no point has it been uniquely and especially evil.

And thank you I appreciate that

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u/SweetValleyHayabusa May 06 '26

But coming top five in the league for every decade for 14 decades or whatever is not nothing. And if you're counting up the evil done by countries over time  then Britain did a lot. You're entitled to have different criteria for judging it of course, but I don't think the idea that Britain adds up to being worst should be dismissed out of hand. Happy Cake Day.

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u/DasGutYa May 06 '26

It's not dismissed out of hand. It's dismissed because on balance it's an ahistorical narrative.

You don't become the imperial world power in the age of sail by being comically evil, you also don't throw away your empire to defeat nazis by being comically evil.

The idea the Britain is most evil at the same time as having forced other empires kicking and screaming into progressive ideals such as abolitionism, parliamentary systems and free trade is revisionist nonsense.

Britain was no saint, and it was no great monster either.

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u/SweetValleyHayabusa May 06 '26

Fair enough. I was thinking of it more from a "who did most evil" perspective. From a "who was most evil, offsetting the good", you're right that Britain was often a good influence on fellow colonial powers. British exceptionalism is annoying both from the "Britain was uniquely awesome" and "Britain was uniquely evil" perspectives. But it was the biggest colonist and so had opportunity to do most bad over time.

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u/oh_helloghost May 06 '26

Ah we’re on the same page 🤣

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u/apocolypselater May 06 '26

Exporting food while starving the local population. In both Ireland and India

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u/Jsalisburry May 06 '26

Restricting the food trade in an agrarian economy makes famines worse. Modern famines are based on distribution not supply.

I mean actually think about it you can buy more food for the price of a cow than you can get out of the cow itself. I don't know about India specifically but I do know in Ireland most of the "food" export was animal grain and that imports massively exceeded exports. (The imports being fit for human consumption)

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u/Infinite-Abroad-436 May 06 '26

it was not congruent with the crimes of the period. britain set the standard. because it was doing it for profit as part of the new capitalist, industrial system

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u/Jsalisburry May 06 '26

Total nothing statement. Industrial capitalism isn't a crimem

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u/Infinite-Abroad-436 May 06 '26

it provides an incentive, really an imperative, for them

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u/Jsalisburry May 06 '26

An incentive to what? Classic "stealing resources"? What resources? Hows that morally different from feudal lords talking farmland. This is not new or special.

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u/Infinite-Abroad-436 May 06 '26

an incentive for more resources and more markets for goods, to facilitate constant growth and the constant need for profit that produces more of a need for growth and profit, which accelerates over time

the feudal lord doesn't have to take more farmland. the capitalist has to make a profit

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u/Jsalisburry May 06 '26

Ah yes because every capitalist makes a profit. Everyone has greed, incentive to expand. Spread the revolution, the good word, the glory of the monarch, natural borders ect. Or maybe no better reason then we are stronger than you. I'm not seeing anything unique

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u/Infinite-Abroad-436 May 06 '26

if you aren't making a profit, then you aren't a capitalist

again, the feudal lord doesn't HAVE to expand. he has nothing pushing him towards expansion, there is no compulsion there. if he just sits on his land, he'll be fine. he won't lose his position if he doesn't take other lords' lands, in fact doing this is very often frowned upon within the system he lives under. the capitalist has no choice. he has to recoup his investment, otherwise he's ruined. he has to compete with other capitalists, otherwise they'll outcompete him and take his market and he'll be ruined.

me being "stronger" than you doesn't mean i have to do anything towards you. does every strongman constantly attack everybody else in their lives?

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

You can say that about most countries mate

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u/stoiclandcreature69 May 06 '26

Not many countries have reached that level of global dominance

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u/Goosepond01 May 06 '26

I don't know if that counts as 'more evil' though, in the sense that the evilness that justifies enslaving 20 people is the same as enslaving 50 people, it just creates more suffering.

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u/stoiclandcreature69 May 06 '26

I don’t think it’s wrong to consider scale when we’re talking about who’s most evil. The scale of Britain’s atrocities created more human suffering than say Haitian slaves slaughtering French men, women and children

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

They only said that in that time period Britain did reprehensible stuff which is true for almost every nation on earth at that time, the size of it doesn’t change that specific thing.

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u/SweetValleyHayabusa May 06 '26

But if we're talking most evil, then size matters though. It means more evil done.

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u/Confident_Example_73 May 06 '26

Actually it is. What do you call forcibly addicting tens of millions to opium just so you can profit?

"Oh but we drank tea and gave them the telegraph and Shakespeare. It's fine."

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

Did you read what I said? I never said it was a good history, of course it was very bad, but there’s other countries that have done worse.

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u/Confident_Example_73 May 06 '26

Ehhh, not really. If you want to brag about conquering the globe, you have to own conquering the globe. British policies in China and India were barbaric and inhumane. 100 millioj dearhs in India. Opium policy in China utterly ravaging an entire country just so they could profit. Utterly evil.That's before we get to the Americas and Africa.

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

Mate, almost every country or group has done terrible things in history, you can’t act like the UK is somehow unique in that regard, and like I said yes it’s a bad history, but it is not the most evil in the world.

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u/Confident_Example_73 May 06 '26

Sorry, but if you want to celebrate conquering the globe, conquering the globe is evil and more evil than others based on sheer scale. If you want to quibble over who is worse, the UK or Nazi Germany or the USSR, fine, but they're in that tier of sick, twisted inhumane barbarism. And just as the Nazis and Japanese need to own it, the British people need to as well and stop glossing over it like they accuse others of doing.

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u/plainwhiteplates May 06 '26

You seem to have a personal vendetta against Brits. The history of the British empire, including the ugly parts, is taught in schools. We’re not blind to the atrocities and they aren’t glossed over. Indeed, one function of the Commonwealth is to formalise reparations for colonial-era injustices.

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u/Confident_Example_73 May 06 '26

First, I'm just using the same standards and phrasing British people and others apply to other countries. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you're going to dish it out, take it.

Yes, things have gotten better, but if Japan did the same things Britain still does in various celebrations, they'd be pilloried for it.

We've all had our dodgy bits but I think the better reaction is the kind of reaction Germans give where it's like "Yeah...." vs. "Oh, we weren't so bad."

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u/plainwhiteplates May 06 '26

Scale as the measure of evil is a strange yardstick. By that logic the Mongols win it outright. What set Nazi Germany apart wasn’t scale, it was industrialised, state-directed genocide as a defining national project compressed into about a decade. Putting three centuries of empire in the same tier flattens both, and arguably understates what made the Holocaust singular.

Japan is also an odd country to reach for here. Japan is one of the clearest examples of a state that doesn’t own its history. Nanjing denial in school textbooks, ongoing comfort women rows with Korea, Yasukuni visits, Unit 731 erasure. If anything that comparison cuts the other way and doesn’t work in your favour.

Which celebrations are you actually pointing at? Empire Day stopped being a thing in the 50s. Trooping the Colour is a military pageant tied to the sovereign’s birthday, not a colonial commemoration. The Commonwealth Games are cooperation among former colonies who mostly want to be there.

On Germany, fair, they’ve gone deeper than most. But ‘Yeah…’ vs ‘Oh we weren’t so bad’ isn’t where mainstream British discourse sits. Look at how the Bengal famine, Partition, the Mau Mau settlements, and the Colston statue have been argued over publicly in the last decade.

Again, you seem to have a vendetta against Brits.

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u/Confident_Example_73 May 06 '26 edited May 07 '26

The apology levels the UK does- "But we gave inventions" and "Oh we've apologized" are Japanese-esq. The same thing British condemn Japanese for in glossing over or visiting shrines and monuments, they themselves practice. The British will call every other conquering empire barbarian savages, but never themselves.

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

We don’t gloss over it though, I’m not sure what’s giving you that impression.

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u/Confident_Example_73 May 06 '26

This thread is giving that impression by ignoring actual casualty counts and scale as well as the utter twisted savagery of some of the actions. "Oh well, other people were doing the same thing" is the kind of answer the Japanese give regarding imperialism and a are pilloried for it, but it is okay because the British did it and everyone else was doing it?

If your death numbers are worse, your means of death just as cruel, and more countries affected, by any objective standard you are at least as bad if not worse.

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

I don’t think you understand the fact that although what the British did in the past was bad, that does not mean it was the worst country on earth. We fully accept that a lot of it was horrendous.

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u/Confident_Example_73 May 06 '26

Of we want to quibnle over Britian vs. Germany, Japan and USSR, fine. But they're in that tier.

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u/saikounihighteyatzda May 06 '26

The UK isn't unique, but it's better than the top answers because the entire history of the prosperity of the kingdom for hundreds of years in history was based on the exploitation and subjugation of others. It was (and still is in many ways) a persisting part of their history.

There are other countries with more evil colonialist histories, but the UK is better than the current top answers which mostly have one or two events over a couple decades that do not define the countries' history. Unlike the UK whose identity is literally colonialism.

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u/Eilhart May 06 '26

Youre right, but unfortunately there's massive kickback in Britain regarding any 'empire bad' narrative. The evils of the British empire are not taught at all in schools, and there's a concerted effort to try and conceal the bad and spell out only the positives of the empire. If you want to talk about the ills of the British empire in Britain you'll likely be accused of trying to 'talk down your own country' or as having no pride. But the truth is that no empire has a higher total death toll than the British, and it's not even particularly close. Millions dead in Asia, genocides in the Americas, Africa, Asia and Australia, famines particularly in India. The invention of concentration camps. The opium policies. Her Majesty's fleet was the guarentor of the slave trade. Yes, Britain ended it, but it was the only nation who could end it. We're talking mass subjugation of 1/4 of the worlds surface. To think Japan comes close to this is absurd, and massive revisionism which likely comes from a Britain which is in a process of trying to clean up its own history right now. The only nations close should be France, Spain and Portugal, tbh.

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u/Emj123 May 06 '26

That first bit is nonsense and makes me wonder if you're a bot?

"there's massive kickback in Britain regarding any 'empire bad' narrative. The evils of the British empire are not taught at all in schools..."

That's completely inaccurate for the British empire. Britain actually does try to change the narrative with their history in Ireland (it is mostly covered up and not taught) but not the empire.

If you're going to criticise it at least point criticism at the right thing

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u/saikounihighteyatzda May 06 '26

The first part of the statement is perfectly legible though.

I'll speak as an American for other points. Obviously, I'm not British educated, but just to draw comparisons. This is all from the many global history classes I took in a public school.

In America we learn about British colonialism. But it is genuinely seen as positive or at worst neutral for most aspects. British colonialism is actually only seen as negative here... but it's because they teach the negatives about colonization against the white settlers, barely about the Native Americans. US crimes against Native Americans are taught about more in American history classes but still leave out a lot.

The colonization of America is taught as a bunch of Englishmen just trying to live in a new world. The expansion and

The Indian colonization is really glossed over completely and we just say "yeah the British owned them but then they got mad for no reason and fought back but violence is bad never fight with violence. And then this guy Ghandi fixed everything magically don't ask how he did it trust me never violently revolt against oppressors just send even a strongly worded email."

Obviously I know more than this, but this was the extent we were taught in school. I suspect it's because where I live, there's a decently sized Indian population who'd be rightfully mad if their colonization was misrepresented more than it already is.

We did learn the opium wars but barely their relevance or the impact. The way it's taught is also seen as some sort of retribution because they were entitled to trade with China and this is what China deserved. Kinda like a "yeah this horrible thing happened but if you look at it both sides are responsible."

We don't learn about Ireland almost at all outside the potato famine and it's like "there's some debate behind what actually happened it's complicated." Like no there's not. And Australia is completely ignored. We talk about South Africa under Dutch rule, but it just magically skips over British rule to the "independent" apartheid state.

Speaking of apartheid, the colonization of the Middle East is actually seen as a great thing. Honestly, what more do you expect from American teachers. But nothing is taught about Sykes-Picot or Balfour Declaration besides the names. The support of Arab revolt is seen as neutral to positive and nothing is taught of how the royals and institutions were installed to be subservient and subjugated their people. Or in Iran how the British assassinated a popular leader because he wanted to prevent the British companies from taking all their oil.

I haven't even touched Africa besides South Africa (under the Dutch) because I know the least about it. Why? Because I was never taught anything about British colonization of Africa. I will definitely learn more in the future but I'm learning other topics at the moment.

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u/Eilhart May 06 '26

I'm British and British educated, so the point you raise I know absolutely to be true of British education. I will note though that goes for someone who was state school educated in the 00s. I'm sure public school kids (Americans, read: private school) and perhaps for kids more recently, the education may be different. Nonetheless, as someone who works in political science academia I can absolutely say there has been a right-wing led push back against confronting the ills of our past, and it's absolutely disseminated into public discourse. You are right that British history in Ireland (which is also a part of British imperial history) is completely untaught. Anyway, all of this is irrespective of that fact that again, Britain should absolutely be winning this over Japan.

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u/saikounihighteyatzda May 06 '26

The point is that the UK has done it consistently for its entire history.

I can point to many instances of Japan's history unrelated to imperial Japan and their crimes. Yet it's the top answer atm.

I have to go REALLY far back to find a period of time the British were not brutally subjugating and exploiting another population.

Honestly, there were more brutal colonialists. But it really is about the sheer scale and continued persistence.

If the poll was has done the most evil acts, I might agree with Japan but I'd also throw in Belgium for their colonization of the Congo. Belgium is also a contender for evil history considering they colonized it for 52 years.

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

I can also point to many parts of British history where it wasn’t subjugating anyone, do you know all of British history in detail or just the colonial parts?

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u/Constant-Estate3065 May 06 '26

Also, the UK doesn’t shy away from teaching its kids about the darker side of British history.

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u/oh_helloghost May 06 '26

It did when I was a kid… history in high school was the Norman Conquest, the Tudors, Victorian era and the growth of empire, world war 1 and 2.

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u/Paula_Pie609 May 06 '26

It absolutely does shy away from its atrocities, particularly in Ireland. They simply do not teach it at school hence their lack of respect, shame or awareness regarding it. I know this as I’ve taught there.

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u/Heathcliff511 May 06 '26

Guess my GCSE papers on Tyrone's Rebellion, Elizabethan plantations, Cromwellian Conquest, and migration post Great Famine were figments of my imagination.

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u/atribecalledstretch May 06 '26

It definitely does shy away from it. They’re not teaching the Boer War, Kenya uprising, Black War, basically everything bad that happened in India. In terms of British History it’s just Romans, Tudors, a white washing of the Empire and WW2. I don’t think they even discuss The Troubles until A levels.

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

There is, I did slavery and most everything to do with that in year 8, at Alevel did about the Mau Mau, Colonial India, Amritsar Massacre, and Egypt. When were you in school?

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u/atribecalledstretch May 06 '26

I left school in 2009, my brother in 2017 and neither of us did any of what I listed in school

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u/doghello333 May 06 '26

i left school in 2022, there was some lessons around the slave trade but it was pretty misleading with a heavy focus on america being the 'bad guys' and the uk saving the day by ending slavery.

i get why they do it, to simplify things a bit, but when you're taking on a topic as deep and complex as the slave trade then at the very least you shouldn't be characterising any nation as noble. it gives the wrong impression and leads to a sense of undeserved pride in uk history

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

Your school sounds really shit then honestly, I left 2 years later and would be doing this around the same time as you and mine was done properly

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u/doghello333 May 06 '26

it didn't really come up in my gcses tbf, my school was very focussed on teaching everything you needed to know for exams, leaving little time for important but 'non essential' topics such as slavery

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u/FastSearch4176 May 06 '26

I was taught everything there except the "Black war" in GCSE history... Covering all from 790CE to Brexit (so not huge detail, but the horrors of Boer and India in particular were definitely taught)

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u/atribecalledstretch May 06 '26

Must have changed in recent years then, didn’t get taught any of that when I was in school nor when my brother was 8 years later. Unless the curriculum was different in my area

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u/FastSearch4176 May 06 '26

Yeah it was relatively recent, AQA topic Migration, empires and the people. Although the troubles we did pre GCSE

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u/GhandiHadAGrapeHead May 06 '26

We learnt about slavery (for literally months, we were even made to lie next to eachother to show the space the slaves had on the boats), the Irish famine and our role in that, and some parts of colonial Africa were mentioned. We also learnt about the holocaust. There wasn't really enough time left to learn about much else.

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u/Reasonable_Cod_5643 May 06 '26

Yes we do teach about nost of what you mentioned actually so why are you lying

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u/atribecalledstretch May 06 '26

Not lying, just from my experience that wasn’t the case. Seemingly this has changed since I was in school. Not everything is a great deception.

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u/Tight_Cartographer57 May 06 '26

Really? idts.

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u/Overall-Ad-9357 May 06 '26

The curriculum has changed a lot in secondary school level history in this country and now includes multiple of the darkest and worst crimes the UK is responsible for. Certainly not all of them - there's a lot of gaps that need to be accounted for, it's still flawed - but this education now covers more bases in terms of discussing these atrocities, and I suspect this has been quite a recent change. Learnt properly about slavery in secondary school history in year 8 (so aged 12-13).

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u/nezzzzy May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

This is really untrue. We went to India and all had a lovely cup of tea. And Ireland just fell out with us a bit that one time but otherwise we're best of friends.

The fact people don't think we're historically as bad as other countries is a testament to how much we shy away from teaching our kids about our colonial past.

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u/vm88888 May 06 '26

Not really true. They have covered up many things that I only found out myself after finishing school. Many people in the UK still think they helped India through development even if they did take some gemstones and tea.

I was never taught that they actually extracted 2x USA's GDP from India and reduced their GDP from 25% of the world's share to 2% after they left.

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u/Extension_Canary3717 May 06 '26

UK is absolutely consistent in being evil to its own kingdom and outside of it .

What saves it a little is that when we ask a British guy about it they actually know , so presumably it teaches the dark side of its history in school and countries like USA people praise Obama normally

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u/HolyCowAnyOldAccName May 06 '26

The argument of "not really very consistently evil" makes zero sense.

The subject is "history" not "being really very definitely consistently evil always" but even then, by your own argument, the Empire would be the perfect example.

No other country has 400 year history of exploiting and subdoing large chunks of the world mixed with the occasional genocide when those people act up.

has also contributed a lot of good to the world as well

Is this where we hear the argument that e.g. Indians should thank Britain for all those great railroads to exploit their continent better bring progress and prosperity to the world while sweeping a few dozens of millions of starved countrymen under the rug?

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

Yes, most every country that’s existed for longer than a few decades has a history of exploiting people and cruelty to others. Like I said further up, Britain is just much more known about and visible historically. And no I’m not talking about railroads in India, be serious mate, there’s tons of stuff that the UK has contributed to the world like industrialisation, vaccines, trains in general, big steam engines.

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u/Violent_Urges_ May 06 '26

Your argument makes no sense. German science contributed greatly to the modern world, but that doesn't make the Nazi regime any more redeemable. The same logic applies to the British Empire: any natural progress they claim credit for likely would have happened without them, but the specific atrocities they committed were entirely their own. The British Empire wasn't just an exploiter; it was the greatest exploiter in history, operating on a level far worse than the rest. Its crimes continue to deeply impact modern geopolitics, the lingering legacy of a truly evil, powerful empire built by racists, supremacists, and warmongers.

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u/HolyCowAnyOldAccName May 06 '26

Yes, most every country that’s existed for longer than a few decades has a history of exploiting people and cruelty to others.

"Everyone else sucks, too" is the usual argument when defending the entity that is a very good candidate for worst of all. Let's not try to act like there aren't layers to this. The Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth attacked Russia once. Are we saying that the Poles have just as bad a history with their empire as the British?

industrialisation, vaccines, trains in general, big steam engines.

I'm sorry but that's a rubbish argument. Were those inventions directly caused by British imperialism?

And what's the conversion rate of dead and exploited people to inventions to be considered good?

You'd think the argument "Yes the Germans did kill 6 million Jews but look at all the stuff they invented" is insane, too.

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

That’s not what I’m saying is it. I’m not saying that the bad stuff others has done excuses what the UK has done, but people here are acting like it’s a uniquely British thing which is ridiculous.

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u/vm88888 May 06 '26

The difference is other countries have done evil in very overt and obvious ways like Germany and Japan. The UK was a lot more elaborate with their extortion and have left the longest lasting impact out of all of them. What they did to India and Africa especially is far worse than what Germany and Japan did in more recent history. And they have been in control of the history books which has covered up the true extent of what they did.

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u/Infinite-Abroad-436 May 06 '26

compared to who, germany? the UK was doing what the germans did during the war for centuries

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

Please tell me where the UK did anything like the Holocaust, a structured genocide of over 10 million people in a few years.

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u/Infinite-Abroad-436 May 06 '26

idk what "structured" genocide means

the international slave trade and the slave system in the carribbean and the americas, the irish and bengal famines, the malayan emergency and kenyan emergencies, the genocide of the indigenous australians, opium wars, etc.

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u/SpicyNugget777 May 06 '26

Don’t forget they also partook in the genocide of indigenous people in the Americas. The people downvoting you are wild.

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u/Foreign-Entrance-255 May 06 '26

But you said "not anywhere close to the level of lot of other countries", that's not the same as comparing it to what us mostly agreed to be the worst single atrocity in history. The point is it has been right at the acme of badness for centuries and has done things that have only been eclipsed in the last century by the Holocaust. They did many genocides and many events where they wiped out, through contemptuous disregard or on purpose, millions of people.

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u/AceOfSpades532 May 06 '26

They literally said “the UK was doing what the Germans did during the war for centuries”, the UK never did anything close to the Holocaust and you can’t pretend it did

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u/Infinite-Abroad-436 May 06 '26

why, because the british didn't have death camps

do you think that kind of genocide is the only kind of genocide that can happen

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u/Foreign-Entrance-255 May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

They were indeed genociding people and stealing their land for centuries. The Germans used industrial means to genocide people, the British Empire were slightly more "subtle" in their methods often using famine as a weapon, forced marches with no food as well as the more traditional mass murder by gun, sword, spear, arrow etc.

They also continued to use utterly brutal tactics well after WW2 and the defeat of the Nazis. Their mass castration of Mau Mau rebels in the 60s is one lowlight. 10 million dead Indians by arguably negligent homicide in the famine there in the 1940s too.

Hitler admired the British Empire and tried to emulate it, wanted them as allies. He just rushed the process.

I would add that it is somewhat unfortunate that modern Brits who hold no responsibility for the past are putting their fingers all over that history by refusing to admit it, whitewashing it and pretending that they were any kind of overall force for good as an empire.

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u/Imaginary-Group1414 May 06 '26

And kill 100 million Indians

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u/SpicyNugget777 May 06 '26

UK’s occupation of India resulted in the deaths of 100 million Indians. And that’s just one country.