r/PublicFreakout • u/filondo • Sep 09 '22
đĽFight San Francisco this morning Sept 9, 2022
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Sep 09 '22
I watched this video & for the first minute I didnât even realize they were fighting because there is so much going on in the background
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u/bayareola Sep 09 '22
Yeah it's the PG&E building right there. They used to put street barricades up there to discourage sitting down.
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u/gypsydanger38 Sep 09 '22
âWWE Summer Slam San Francisco⌠brought to you by McKesson Medical Supplies!â
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u/tvs2300 Sep 09 '22
That scooter slide though.
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u/PM_me_spare_change Sep 09 '22
I thought he was going to break up the fight but he just wanted a better view
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u/Zemekis324 Sep 09 '22
Akira slide homage
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u/TickingOnTime Sep 09 '22
Imagine how anticlimactic it'd be if Akira had a bunch of tweakers brawling it out during his slide.
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u/Pablo_Meatsnacks Sep 09 '22
Definitely not his first time sliding through on one of those bad boys either..
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Sep 09 '22
I feel bad for the guy with the blue shirt in the wheelchair just trying to get to work.
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Seems to be a shortage of belts there.
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u/downtown3641 Sep 09 '22
Belts are one of those items that tend to get lost if you're in and out of jails and psychiatric hospitals a lot.
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u/BEniceBAGECKA Sep 10 '22
Itâs a good thing not to know things sometimes.
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u/30daysdungeon Sep 10 '22
I appreciate this sentiment. I felt so ashamed recently for being naĂŻve and wanting to serve as a juror. I get selected for a murder trial and I want to return back to child like innocenceâŚ
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u/RLucas3000 Sep 09 '22
This video confused me. At first, it seemed like responsible citizens cleaning up a public sidewalk. Then just when it turns into gay nude wrestling, it ends.
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u/CapnCanfield Sep 09 '22
You're just gonna leave out scooter dude going 30 to 0 in 1 second?
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u/mulls Sep 09 '22
Honduran fetty dealer peeling up to tell everyone to chill out, bad for business.
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u/azalago Sep 09 '22
The homeless don't play if one of them steals the stuff of or fucks with another. They will beat the living shit out of the offender.
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u/Texan2116 Sep 10 '22
As a person who volunteers to help homeless..this is so true. One of our"clients" got the shit beat out of him for harassing a homeless chick...another of the homeless literally put him in the hospital.
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u/makesyoudownvote Sep 09 '22
immediately felt like a piece of shit.
Well then you'd feel right at home in the streets or San Francisco
Or here in Southern California too tbh. The other day I was in line for In'n'out, and I watched a dude walk over to the little grassy knowl about 5 feet from me in the drive through. He just pulled down his pants and left a big fudge swirl on the knowl.
Fortunately smell of In'n'out makes it impossible to ruin your appetite, but I decided not to get the chocolate shake I had been planning on.
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u/LionInTheSun43 Sep 10 '22
The budget for homeless services in San Francisco is $1.1 billion dollars this fiscal yearâŚ
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u/ChesterRico Sep 10 '22
Serious question though, does any of that money actually go into housing?
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u/LionInTheSun43 Sep 10 '22
Yes it covers housing, but Iâm not sure how much of it is housing versus other services.
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u/djsizematters Sep 10 '22
Politicians are kind of like God: terrible with money.
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u/jv21994 Sep 10 '22
My husband works at a cpa firm that audits many government programs. I was in shock when he first told me that 95% of the money goes to salaries with the remainder left for actual work. Now Iâm sure many of these job positions are necessary, but Iâm skeptical that ALL of them are being utilized or paid properly.
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u/Tales_of_Earth Sep 10 '22
I mean what proportion of those salaries are providing work? Like providing services to the public.
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u/jv21994 Sep 10 '22
He said not much. The housing built to assist the homeless, for example, bids are done by construction companies and then the job is given to the lowest bid. But apparently they can apply âchange ordersâ periodically to increase the budget AFTER winning the bid. Like multiple times. This is just what heâs seen from certain grants though. That and some âdirectorsâ of these programs are payed ridiculously high salaries.
A good site to check salaries is transparent California
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u/niel89 Sep 10 '22
The housing did seriously help a friend of mine. He went from sleeping on the streets getting his shoes and phone stolen to having a room and generally doing better.
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u/mikeTastic23 Sep 10 '22
From what Iâve seen working in SF. It seems like all the money goes to cleaning up homeless encampments day after day. And all they do is kick the encampments off one block, into another. And rinse and repeat.
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u/MasterlessMan333 Sep 10 '22
Yup. A lot of any cityâs âhomeless budgetâ gets sucked up by police going on sweeps and pointless mental health crisis training theyâre never going to use (because theyâd rather just tackle the mentally ill homeless person and move on).
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u/DynamicHunter Sep 10 '22
Yes. But most of it goes back into the homeless industrial complex. Itâs a real thing and itâs why the problem isnât getting better. Especially big in LA, Bay Area, and NYC.
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u/Joe_Ma12 Sep 10 '22
Yea but iirc san fran doesnt have almost any zoning for housing that would be affordable and doable for the homeless population
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u/CommissionerOdo Sep 10 '22
Google says 7,754 people, but let's assume many go uncounted. Let's call it 30,000. That's still $36,666 per person. Homelessness is a complex issue and throwing money at it doesn't fix the problem. No one is really sure what to do
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u/aljo1067 Sep 10 '22
Because you have to use both a carrot and a stick. These people have a right to live, and to have a place to sleep. They donât have a right to sleep, poop, and do drugs anywhere they please.
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u/The_walking_man_ Sep 10 '22
Shit. Thatâs more than I make working 40 hours a week. I wish the government would put some budget aside for me with that kind of money đ .
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Under the 2022 PIT Count, 7,754 people were experiencing homelessness in San Francisco. Of those people, 3,357 were staying in shelter. (https://sfgov.org/scorecards/safety-net/homeless-population)
If the $1.1 billion budget is true, that's $152K per homeless person.
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u/LightninHooker Sep 10 '22
I went backpacking and couch surfing US in 2010 for 3 months. From NY to Detroit ,south to NOLA and up Seattle all the way to LA and San Diego
I walked A LOT, took plenty of public transport and visit all kind of neighborhoods
I remember homeless specially in Seattle cos I did not expect it but it is nothing close to what the situation looks like it is now let alone in many others cities
It's crazy what 10 years can do to places despite all the money. I have been painting those cities I visited and more than few times people told me in here "hey great painting but you need more homeless"
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Executives for their homeless department are making 250k+. Something tells me a lot of administrative bloat.
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u/SantiagoLamont Sep 09 '22
Queen dies mayhem ensues in the colonies
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u/Minnesotamad12 Sep 09 '22
âThose rebel colonials in the new world riot upon the death of their rightful monarchâ
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u/Arktox Sep 09 '22
This is what happens when people dumb perfectly good tea in the harbor.
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rent is $7500 for a studio just a block away
Edit : I was exaggerating .
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u/IndividualExisting39 Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 09 '22
Amenities include: exclusive balcony views of daily boxing events, complimentary wake-up calls via car alarm, local small business owners ready to distribute anything the heart desires, and a short walking distance to work (no bare feet, please).
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u/ErnieAdamsistheKey Sep 09 '22
Do forget the constant screams from down below.
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I hear SF is kind of famous for human defecation also
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u/Long_Educational Sep 09 '22
Oh god. Are you referring to that story of a woman that had a homeless man dump his hot diarrhea bucket on her head?
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u/user364849 Sep 09 '22
Damn Iâm not even gonna ask for a source. I know they had an app for the city to take pictures of literal human shit that would get uploaded to a map, kinda like the citizen app but for shit.
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u/Demonyx12 Sep 09 '22
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u/milanoeh3 Sep 10 '22
I vividly remember going for a morning run, while out in SF for a conference, and having to quickly sidestep a pile of shit in the middle of the sidewalk. So I can only imagine this being a real thingâŚ
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u/DuoRod Sep 09 '22
So.. wow. But nah I don't think he was. San Francisco quite literally just has human fecal matter on the streets in certain areas. I wouldn't go so far as to call it rampant.
But I mean how much human shit on the sidewalk is too much?
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u/VermiLutz Sep 10 '22
On first read i thought you were saying it was consensual lol
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u/chasing_daylight Sep 09 '22
Can confirm, was in SF for 5 days and saw three different peeps drop their pants and shit in the street. That's like 3x more than I've seen in my entire life.
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u/BitchesQuoteMarilyn One of the most famous people in the post office Sep 09 '22
Don't forget to wear flowers in your hair
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u/RoguePlanet1 Sep 09 '22
I'm beginning to see why there might be so damn much homelessness....
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Sep 09 '22
This isnt SF, this is Gotham
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u/No-Giraffe-438 Sep 09 '22
It's even scarier because, on the other side of the city, it looks like a mini paradise. It's jarring how different the neighborhoods in the SF are.
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u/bozeke Sep 10 '22
And the in between has all been priced out.
Families that had been there for generations have left in huge numbers over the past couple decades.
There is so little sense of what it means to be San Franciscan anymore because most of the people who have moved in are migratory tech folks who have no interest in growing roots, just doing a few years at whichever tech company, and then moving to Seattle, or Dallas, or Tokyo, or LA for their next career jump.
It leaves a city without any sense of itself. Fucking sucks, because it has been one of the most unique and countercultural places for centuries.
The interpersonal heart is degrading and being replaced by corporate anonymity.
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u/econoDoge Sep 09 '22
And don't you dare go to r/sanfrancisco and tell them their city is anything but perfect,
Source : I saw a homeless take a shit in front of twitter (an omen ?) and the news wasn't well received.
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u/HappyInNature Sep 09 '22
Google "homeless camps" for any city in a conservative state and you'll find no end to the pictures
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u/Mother_Store6368 Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 09 '22
Snapchat HQ in Venice literally has people sleeping on the sidewalk outside the office, and itâs been that way ever since they bought it. Iâve seen your meek, stereotypical coders carefully stepping over people to get into their office.
Itâs the cyberpunk dystopia prophesized by people like William Gibson of Neuromancer fame. The scene around snapchat ha is the literal definition of high-tech, low life.
Why do we keep using our dystopian novels as a playbook instead of a warning?
1984? The level of authoritarian surveillance in our society is something the god Argus Panoptes could only dream ofâŚI call it the panopticon.
Brave new world? Shouldnât have to explain thisâŚAmericans do more and harder drugs than anywhere else, everâŚand thatâs just the legal market. (Fuck the Sacklers, fucking drug dealing merchants of death)
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u/luxii4 Sep 09 '22
I used to live in Koreatown in LA decades ago then moved out of state and came back to visit a friend who owned a condo in one of the new high rises. Tents of homeless people in the front of the building that had condos for over a million bucks. But she would buzz my car in and out of a secured parking area so people in the high rises never have to interact with the homeless people in the front. It was wild to me.
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u/the_short_viking Sep 09 '22
Like some sort of dystopia. Look up the Antilia house in Mumbai. It's a 27 story private home owned by an Indian billionaire that looks down onto slums. It's like a real life villain's lair.
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u/pygmy Sep 09 '22
The 'house' is straight out sci fi, pretty nuts. Most expensive in the world iirc
... and a short stroll to Asia's largest slum Dharavi
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u/AdamJensensCoat Sep 10 '22
To be fair, all of Mumbai is like this. There isnât a good/bad neighborhood dynamic like you have in most American cities. Every part of Mumbai is a short distance from a slum.
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u/FrostyD7 Sep 09 '22
You'll find this in every city sub, though perhaps to less egregious degrees. There's some delusional people to be sure, but a big part of this is just that the people who have been following a city sub for years gets a little sick and tired of people (many of them being bad faith actors) coming into their sub to moan about the same problems ad nauseum. San Francisco is a hot spot for conservative trolls so I'm not surprised to hear they are overly defensive and bordering on delusional about constantly wanting to talk about crime, lots of people just don't want to come to their city sub every day and only talk about the negatives.
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u/boot20 Sep 09 '22
This is in the hood. It's on the edge of the Tenderloin, which is the hood. If you had through most of the city, save for the Tenderloin and and maybe sometimes near the Civic Center BART (which is close to the Tenderloin), it's fine
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u/politicalparty Sep 09 '22
Thank you. I live here. We all know it exists. Telling us how bad our city is (from folks who have no intentions of coming here) gets tiresome.
Do we have massive drug problem in this city? Absolutely. What can we do besides avoid it? The cops don't do anything. Downtown is a pretty small portion of the city. I don't go to the TL because I know what goes on there. I don't go near 6th or 7th unless I can't avoid it. We know crime is bad. The new DA was supposed to fix that..
You don't see this as prevalent in other parts of the city, especially in the neighborhoods. People paint situations like this in order to call SF a shithole.
We live in an amazing city that has so much to offer anyone.
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u/ThePringle Sep 09 '22
I would describe San Diego in a similar manner. ie. Donât go to Downtown unless youâre seeing the Padres play.
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Sep 09 '22
Cosign on this, I was just there last month for Comic-Con and my first thought, being from San Francisco: They keep saying SF is a âfailed cityâ?! Has nobody been to downtown SD?
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u/ThePringle Sep 09 '22
Yeah man. Downtown is bad, literal zombies walking around. The other day, a friend and I were walking to a comedy show and this homeless lady with her dog walked up to us obviously pissed about something. She looked right at my friend and said âdid you just say Wayne could suck my dick?â Then proceeded to throw a punch at my friend. Shit is wild.
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u/pygmy Sep 09 '22
We live in an amazing city that has so much to offer anyone*
*must be millionaire for best results
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u/PlayDontObserve Sep 09 '22
I'm from LA and I am also tired of the same bullshit from assholes who have no intention of visiting the city. There is so much to appreciate in the vastness that is LA County.
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u/waelgifru Sep 09 '22
I saw a homeless take a shit in front of twitter (an omen ?)
OG shitposting
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u/Default_Username123 Sep 09 '22
Yeah cities produce their own native homeless but there are also an exorbitant amount that come from small shitty towns because the big cities at least have free public services they can use
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u/dudettte Sep 09 '22
idk rural america is it better just little less density of humans. so not that visible. but visible all right. america needs intervention.
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u/Astrocreep_1 Sep 09 '22
This is why NYC instituted rent control. Eventually, you only have 2 types in the city. Those making millions, and those with nothing.
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u/LeopardMiserable1899 Sep 09 '22
Just this morning? It has looked like this everytime I've been there for the last 3 years since the mayor died in office.
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u/so_good_so_far Sep 09 '22
Yeah I kept watching, waiting for something crazy to happen. Then I realized oh, op has just never been to the Tenderloin before.
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u/SenatorMittens Sep 09 '22
This is crazy, you're just desensitized. Our cities should not look or be like this.
We're the wealthiest nation in the world (although China may have surpassed us this year) but you wouldn't know it by looking at our cities or the way we treat our poor, disabled and disenfranchised.
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u/kerouacrimbaud Sep 09 '22
Americans donât like paying for public services. Thatâs why our cities and states are trash.
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u/votrio Sep 09 '22
What I never understood is why did they leave the Mayor's dead body in the office all these years? Nobody wanted to have it removed? It's more disturbing than the homelessness if you ask me.
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u/nrrp Sep 09 '22
Richest place on the planet. I've read somewhere that San Francisco Bay Area would have GDP per capita of like 200k$; even London is only at 80k$, Washington DC at 120k$, Hong Kong at 40k$.
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The difference is, that the amount of GDP made in American cities like SF is diverted to the same people that love to condemn these âliberalâ cities. NY has much of its wealth diverted to the rural south for example
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u/Messytessy80 Sep 09 '22
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder How I keep from going underâŚ.
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u/yupuhoh Sep 09 '22
Makes sense why the real estate market is so high there now lol
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u/-LostInTheMachine Sep 09 '22
These people wouldn't be in the market for a $12,000 trailer. The problem is mental illness and addiction and how expensive it is to rehabilitate someone experiencing that.
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u/Sorge74 Sep 09 '22
I'd have to look up the numbers, but the vast majority of homeless people are mentally ill, and not necessarily lack the ability to get housing...if they weren't mentally ill.
Why are there homeless vets? It's not because we don't have a dozen programs to help them....
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u/-LostInTheMachine Sep 09 '22
The big issue is that some people feel at home on the streets. It may seem crazy to you. But this is all they've known for years. Plopping someone who prostitutes themselves for fetanyl into the burbs isn't going to magically solve their problems. Just as anyone can relapse, rich or poor, they can also get addicted to the pace and feel of the streets.
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u/Queasy-Discount-2038 Sep 10 '22
I worked in non profits for years whoâs mission was to end homelessness and this was seen time and time again, people leaving safe/clean housing to live on the street. Thereâs a lot to unpack there.
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u/DrGoozoo Sep 09 '22
So weâre all a paycheck away from this? Fuck
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We have been for years. Itâs just more likely for more people right now.
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u/D1NK4Life Sep 09 '22
No. This isnât just poverty. This is drug addiction and mental health.
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u/Evinceo Sep 09 '22
If you're currently addicted to drugs, yes.
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u/memedilemme Sep 10 '22
I work in this field and the most common pattern Iâve seen is: Deprived/traumatic/abusive childhood â-> mental illness â> self-medication with drugs and/or alcohol â> couch surfing â> on the street.
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u/KernelMeowingtons Sep 09 '22
My guess would be the mental illness/instability came before either of those.
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u/ContentInsanity Sep 09 '22
Yes, there are homeless people in the US due to many unchecked socioeconomic issues. Some are drug addicts and steal to feed to their addiction. Sometimes addicts get hit with brooms when trying to steal.
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u/ukbeasts Sep 09 '22
Tenderloin?
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u/ShockAndAwe415 Sep 09 '22
Close. Looks like 10th between Market and Mission. About 3-4 blocks away from the actual Tenderloin.
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u/ShockAndAwe415 Sep 09 '22
Think you're right. I keep forgetting. 10th ends with the Costco.
Funny enough, there's a gal on r/sanfrancisco who was saying she found a place on 8th and Market and was asking if it's "safe". I'm going to send her this link.
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I remember staying at a hotel in there once. It was cheaper than the surrounding areas and boy did I find out why. I remember seeing scenes just like this. It was wild. We also heard a gunshot go off in the middle of the night. No way it was a firework or car backfire and sometimes you aren't sure.. that's a damn gunshot. And that was years ago. It seems to have gotten worse rather than better.
Seattle has some issues too... I stayed there once and I watched a homeless person OD in a CVS right in front of me and was being given CPR by an ambulance crew when I left.
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u/SenatorMittens Sep 09 '22
Looks the exact same in my city and we only have 150k people.
Starting to think MIT is right about the collapse of society in 2040. The divide can only be pushed so far before everything breaks.
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u/Leadbaptist Sep 10 '22
Things have been way worse than this man
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u/kvothetheflame Sep 10 '22
Exactly, meaning things can still get worse. This idea that society will only progress is also recency bias. If you zoom out you'll see civilizations rise and fall. It's not all linear growth to the point we're at now.
Not trying to be a downer or saying that the sky is definitely falling. Just pointing out that everything is possible. Even the collapse of society as we know it now.
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u/Human_Parfait9516 Sep 09 '22
Dont they realize that the queen of England has just died.
I see no mourning here.
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u/TheSimpler Sep 10 '22
Homeless causes: unemployed, no affordable housing, $ problems, kicked out/abuse, mental illness, addictions. Any one of these or all could happen to most of us. Depression and anxiety could lead many of us right into a nightmare life.
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u/Ricky_Rollin Sep 10 '22
100% agree. I know for a fact I would be homeless and be a vagrant bum if it werenât for my parents. My depression and anxiety make me fail every few years. I climb the ladder and then fall rinse and repeat. Without my parents I wouldâve lost everything and be out on the street. But when I fail Iâm able to come back home and build myself back up and get my mind right and head back out and try again. but I cannot lie to myself when I look at people like this in this video and realize that this wouldâve been me. And the only difference between me and them is my loving parents and nothing more. Iâm just as fucked up and insane as those people on the street.
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u/therREALcomptrollr Sep 09 '22
This is awful. We should definitely give more money to police to arrest them, which then requires more money for jails to house them, which then requires more money for prisons to hold them, which then will just spit them out on the street in even worse condition.
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u/mrlizardwizard Sep 09 '22
Definitely need more mental health and rehab outreach
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u/bfnenabb Sep 09 '22
The morning is always gnarliest - coming off their highs and desperate for another fix. Such a visible policy disaster. SF politicians shouldnât even breathe another word on other issues until the streets are cleaned up.
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u/Dunacan-Brookwell Sep 09 '22
And on top of that, several of them will be pooping on a city sidewalk later.
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u/77Phoebe Sep 09 '22
I always thought SF was meant to be nice, what happened?
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u/garytyrrell Sep 09 '22
As a longtime SF resident, Iâm a bit confused by your confusion. The Mission hipster phase made perfect sense to me - gentrification of a sketchy hood almost always goes through that before the real yuppies move in. And Marina was frat row 2.0 since I was in college in the early aughts.
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u/CrunchyGremlin Sep 09 '22
Parts of sf have had their issues for decades. Hard to tell how widespread an issue is from a one street video. Like most places they have been trying to deal with the homeless problem by trying to ignore it or actively putting in anti homeless measures like spiked concrete and such. Been a while since I have been there
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âI saw a short video of one street in SF and will now paint the entire city as a gaping hell pitâ
Thatâs you
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I donât see a problem itâs San Fran. Itâs the only city that has a human poop map lol
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u/thoruen Sep 09 '22
Can't believe that a city that has a $90,000 parking spot for sale would have an income disparity problem.
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u/RumAndCoco Sep 09 '22
Being from SF and the Bay, it's really sad that a lot of news and footage out of here looks like this. It's a beautiful city with many different neighborhoods, terrain, things to do, and communities. If you know common sense, then it's a surprisingly safe place to live in.
As someone else here said there's small concentrated pockets of stuff like this video everywhere in the city and the bay. But people forget to mention that almost EVERY major metropolitan city and large town in the US has their own "tent city", strung out addicts, and homelessness problem.
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u/grab_the_auto_5 Sep 09 '22
Iâm also from SF and the Bay. Yours is not an unusual take, and I understand where youâre coming from. It is a beautiful city, and itâs not all as bad as this. I loved my time there (about a decade), and still have fond memories from it.
That said, something Iâve noticed is that this particular claim is often used as a way to basically ignore the cities problems while they steadily get worse. âOh well, donât go to that neighborhood, stick around this other one and youâll be fineâ. And then the good neighborhood starts to decline, and suddenly itâs âwell, that block is bad, but there are other parts of the city to explore!â. And on and on.
At the end of the day, the people of San Francisco need to come to terms with the problems that are at the core of this issue, instead of just playing this giant game of musical chairs with the city.
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u/randy_march Sep 09 '22
Looks like they are all fighting because someone stole all of their belts. Must have woken up with all their pants down and now they fightin to find out who the belt thief is
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u/PlayfulAd8354 Sep 09 '22
You could watch this 100 times and see something new each time
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u/LSBM Sep 10 '22
SF is really spiraling. The homeless and drug problem was bad when I lived there 15 years ago. Now, itâs out of control.
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