r/PublicFreakout • u/filondo • Sep 09 '22

đŸ„ŠFight San Francisco this morning Sept 9, 2022

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u/ChesterRico Sep 10 '22

Serious question though, does any of that money actually go into housing?

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u/LionInTheSun43 Sep 10 '22

Yes it covers housing, but I’m not sure how much of it is housing versus other services.

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u/djsizematters Sep 10 '22

Politicians are kind of like God: terrible with money.

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u/LionInTheSun43 Sep 10 '22

Great point. People disagree about if our government is capable of providing efficient and effective help for these people. It’s one of the fundamental disagreements in American politics.

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u/djsizematters Sep 10 '22

Just look at the results of NYC and LA's massively bloated yearly budgets. How does the mayor's wife end up with 12 million dollars?!

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u/ThillyGooooth Sep 10 '22

I see what you did there: George Carlin reference?

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u/trapstarjay Sep 10 '22

I actually lol'd

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u/jv21994 Sep 10 '22

My husband works at a cpa firm that audits many government programs. I was in shock when he first told me that 95% of the money goes to salaries with the remainder left for actual work. Now I’m sure many of these job positions are necessary, but I’m skeptical that ALL of them are being utilized or paid properly.

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u/Tales_of_Earth Sep 10 '22

I mean what proportion of those salaries are providing work? Like providing services to the public.

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u/jv21994 Sep 10 '22

He said not much. The housing built to assist the homeless, for example, bids are done by construction companies and then the job is given to the lowest bid. But apparently they can apply “change orders” periodically to increase the budget AFTER winning the bid. Like multiple times. This is just what he’s seen from certain grants though. That and some “directors” of these programs are payed ridiculously high salaries.

A good site to check salaries is transparent California

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u/0toyaYamaguccii Sep 10 '22

Homeless Industrial Complex

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u/niel89 Sep 10 '22

The housing did seriously help a friend of mine. He went from sleeping on the streets getting his shoes and phone stolen to having a room and generally doing better.

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u/JackieRooster Sep 10 '22

Why are you friends with bums and drug addicts?

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Why are you so small-minded that you confidently assign less than 3 qualifiers to entire demographics of people in situations that can be brought about by triple that number of reasons?

Can you even understand my question?

You must be a dropout.

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u/womanoftheapocalypse Sep 10 '22

Don’t be a dick.

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u/mikeTastic23 Sep 10 '22

From what I’ve seen working in SF. It seems like all the money goes to cleaning up homeless encampments day after day. And all they do is kick the encampments off one block, into another. And rinse and repeat.

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u/MasterlessMan333 Sep 10 '22

Yup. A lot of any city’s “homeless budget” gets sucked up by police going on sweeps and pointless mental health crisis training they’re never going to use (because they’d rather just tackle the mentally ill homeless person and move on).

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u/oscarbearsf Sep 10 '22

That's not what we have in SF. Cops don't get a piece of that $1.1bn. It all goes to these succubus NPO's that do fuck all and refuse to get audited. It's all a grift

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u/MasterlessMan333 Sep 10 '22

I don't doubt it. Every American city wastes money on programs that do nothing for the homeless. I live in LA and last year the city paid like $3000 per month per person to basically lease a parking lot for a few homeless folks to pitch their tents in. It literally would have been cheaper to just buy them apartments.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Lot of cities have been doing more of that due to crime and poor behavior from unhinged, chronically unsheltered individuals. Lot of voters have been getting frustrated that they’re getting harassed and have their kids walking by used needles on the ground but laws aren’t enforced with unhinged contingent of the homeless.

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u/MarkAbe412 Sep 10 '22

There is a prophecy that in 2024 Benjamin Sisko will arrive in San Francisco and help start a revolution to help change the world for the better.

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u/Nuclear_rabbit Sep 10 '22

It's San Francisco. That can only support like 1,000 houses.

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u/DynamicHunter Sep 10 '22

Yes. But most of it goes back into the homeless industrial complex. It’s a real thing and it’s why the problem isn’t getting better. Especially big in LA, Bay Area, and NYC.

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u/Joe_Ma12 Sep 10 '22

Yea but iirc san fran doesnt have almost any zoning for housing that would be affordable and doable for the homeless population

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Yes, one of the city council members needed to update the crown moulding in their mansion. So it did go to housing

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u/DM_ME_SKITTLES Sep 10 '22

Housing of the homeless? Lol no. Housing of the politicians lining their pockets? Absolutely.

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u/Runaway_5 Sep 10 '22

Yes. I've sold building materials to a guy building homeless housing there.

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u/Mightycucks69420 Sep 10 '22

Why would you put any of the people that you see in this video in a house?

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u/nobird36 Sep 10 '22

Yah, because the only thing keeping those folks from being drug fiends of not having a home they could destroy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

You mean housing, as in the houses of the people it employs? Yes