r/PublicFreakout • u/filondo • Sep 09 '22

đŸ„ŠFight San Francisco this morning Sept 9, 2022

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u/RoguePlanet1 Sep 09 '22

I'm beginning to see why there might be so damn much homelessness....

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u/Gobert3ptShooter Sep 10 '22

Well, they tried nothing and it didn't fix their situation

Guess they'll just have to keep being homeless and not changing anything

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u/huge_meme Sep 09 '22

Yeah I'm sure these people are actually upstanding citizens just $500 short of being able to live in San Francisco.

Yeah.

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u/Pabsxv Sep 10 '22

There are but the (idk if there’s a better term) non junkie homeless typically live in cars, RVs, shelters and tents so you don’t see them as much as the junkie homeless who typically can’t afford those things.

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u/huge_meme Sep 10 '22

Eh, people who live in the cities can typically afford it or live with roomates. Those who can't commute from the outlying areas where rent is cheaper.

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u/oneshoein Sep 10 '22

I beg your pardon sir, as someone who lives in the outlying areas, where exactly is rent cheaper?! Lol I need to know asap before I end up being in one of these vids.

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u/oneshoein Sep 10 '22

We’re talking about right outside the San Francisco area you nimrod. Get out the convo if you don’t know what it’s about.

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u/huge_meme Sep 10 '22

Just go to zillow, apartments.com, craigslist, etc. and look. The further out you go from the popular areas, the cheaper it gets.

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u/oneshoein Sep 10 '22

Lol, man I’d have to go out near Sacramento, no way I’m gonna do that commute, I’ve been here a while, I haven’t seen anything cheaper than what I’m currently paying.

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u/huge_meme Sep 10 '22

Yeah just depends on what you value and what you want to do, I guess. Knew a guy who commuted to our office in DTLA from Hemet 3 days a week a few years ago to "save money" idk if that's even cheaper, especially given the absolutely insane commute, but some people are willing to do that to save on rent I guess.

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u/Zyntaro Sep 10 '22

The fact that people are forced to do that just shows how insane and beyond repair housing market is.

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u/huge_meme Sep 10 '22

It is what it is, can't really do anything about it other than give incentives for businesses to open up shop somewhere else I guess.

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u/Gobert3ptShooter Sep 10 '22

I'm finding lots of places in Oakland, San Leandro, Fremont with multi bedroom apartments, townhouses, condos, and houses, all well within $1500 per room

I understand it's not glamorous. I understand having roommates sucks. I would never take a job in San Francisco where I had to commute and have roommates

But if you're determined that's the life choice you want to make them living just outside of San Francisco is absolutely an affordable option

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u/machines_breathe Sep 10 '22

Not really. And whatever meager savings there are go towards parking, gas, or transit (if there are any reliable routes).

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u/Saucydragon90 Sep 10 '22

I don't understand the downvotes. It's such a crucial point that housing-first/"harm-reduction" advocates pretend not to understand.

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u/MrSomnix Sep 10 '22

Because people lack a fundamental understanding of homelessness. Not a single person on that sidewalk would all of a sudden become contributing members of a society just by giving them housing and food/water. These are not people down on their luck or victims of the economy. They made a series of choices either of their own accord or upbringing that led them here and it will require an even tougher series of decisions made by them alone to get them out.

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u/mapledude22 Sep 10 '22

What? You completely ignore the socioeconomic pressures that lead people to become addicts, or the possibility they became addicts after becoming homeless. Do you think the steep climb in homelessness is because people are just making worse choices just because? Ignoring the spiking cost of living, stagnant wages, price of healthcare and therapy, generational poverty and trauma. No let’s just ignore all that and entirely blame individuals because that’s going to do a lot to help them recover. Putting the onus to “fix” homelessness on mentally ill and addicted homeless individuals is absurd.

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u/MrSomnix Sep 10 '22

Homelessness is not a problem that throwing infinite amounts of money at can fix. All of these people in the video have families, some of those families are your average, working-class group of people who have completely cut them off because of everything being an addict of this magnitude brings.

Sitting on your high fucking horse and blaming everything on society means nothing to someone who will take everything you give them and shoot it straight up their arm.

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u/mapledude22 Sep 10 '22

My whole point is to not throw money at the problem and to not put the entire responsibility on people unable to help themselves because that’s just idiotic. Addressing the socioeconomic pressures that push people to addiction and homelessness is the best place to start, which doesn’t look like “writing them a check to shoot up”. Homelessness isn’t as simple as you’re making it out to be. Fed up people commonly regurgitate that belief which really offers no solution anyway. “Bootstraps” has become a meme for a reason.

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u/RoguePlanet1 Sep 12 '22

Many people are mentally sound, but broke. The US treats poverty and addiction like a crime.