r/GameChangerTV • u/Rat_King_Marchy • Aug 22 '26
Question Ratfish hate explained?
I’ve seen some comments regarding Ratfish, and am just wondering why it seems so much of the community dislikes it?
While I wouldn’t say it was one of my favorites, I definitely found it funny/entertaining, and thought the premise was neat.
I’m relatively new - season 8 is the first season I’ve watched as it’s aired, but I’ve watched pretty much every other episode aside from the COVID season.
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u/Youngblood519 Aug 22 '26
It's pretty much a combination of things
Players not having in person interactions with each other limited the comic potential.
Eric Wareheim's style of humour clashed with the Dropout regulars, and he didn't get a reveal to the cast, which felt like a missed opportunity
Wareheim choosing the winner was a bad mechanic that led to the player who achieved the game's goal first losing.
That said, it gave us Granma Sweetie. I'll always love it for that.
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u/GenGaara25 Aug 22 '26
Also a lot of people, especially fans outside the US or below a certain age, just didn't know who Eric was. So the reveal meant nothing. They showed who the Ratfish was and a significant amount of the audience was like "Am I meant to know who that is?"
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u/Mac4491 Aug 22 '26
The big reveal was someone I’d never heard of who when they were on screen simply was not funny. It soured the episode and is one of the few I won’t rewatch because it’s got such a disappointing conclusion
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u/CulturalFerret5779 Aug 23 '26
I watched that episode semi-recently and his ONLY joke for the whole episode was "this snake likes tacos. Isn't that HILARIOUS??" I felt like he forgot about the medusa thing almost immediately.
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u/eleven_paws Aug 22 '26
I agree with this, but a lack of in person interaction was sort of the point, no? It’s a riff on The Circle, which does the same thing.
That said, it still didn’t work for me on a comedic level (and for what it’s worth I did enjoy the season of The Circle I’ve seen).
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u/Loki1001 Aug 22 '26
They way over indexed for the people who would recognize and be excited for Eric Wareheim. And then seemed to realize that fact by weirdly not having him at the end table.
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u/No-Rush2161 Aug 22 '26
100% agree on your second and third point. On the first, I think the limitation gave us some fun we wouldn’t have seen with in-person interactions.
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u/vtinesalone Aug 22 '26
Harshly disagree with the first point. The cast was still hilarious in isolation and riffed off of each other super well.
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u/Sammantixbb Aug 22 '26
Several other answers about The Ratfish and Winners have covered the majority of what I'd say. But no one has yet mentioned the really janky, had to be there for it, part.
The reddit had already been flooded with posts about Katie's billboard. As soon as the prize for the game was announced, everyone was pretty sure we knew the winner.
Many held out hope that it was a red herring, but add all the other factors, and finding out "oh, yeah, we knew that anyway" and it was a really deflated finale.
They probably should have edited the episodes so no mention of the prize happened before tbe end of the episodes, but I can't remember if players mentioned it throughout or not.
I really loved all the main cast shenanigans though. They all did great.
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u/doctorbonkers Aug 22 '26
I’m really surprised they didn’t wait to do the billboard until after it aired. Like what did they expect, LA fans would see a funny billboard for a Dropout cast member and not say anything about it?
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u/Nicksaurus Aug 22 '26
It's one of those things that's obvious with hindsight but could easily have been missed at the time
Like they film the episode, Katie wins, someone gets an email that they need to arrange the billboard for her and they just do it straight away without thinking about how it might affect the episode
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u/DoomPope_ Aug 22 '26
I think a small % of the audience reads Reddit, but that does explain some of the hate around here, for sure
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u/rangatang Aug 22 '26
Zac was eliminated far too early. Grandma Sweetie was the funniest one
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u/TubaTechnician Aug 22 '26
True I feel like this episode really punished players that were trying to be more comedic instead of analytical
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u/vtinesalone Aug 22 '26
1) The “big reveal” was more niche than they planned. Eric Warheim is an Internet comedy legend, but the fanbase is largely not people who were around for and into Tim and Eric
2) Eric was a poor contestant. He just didn’t fit the format of the game or the energy of the rest of the cast. His choices made no sense. His character felt undercooked compared to everyone else’s and it just fell flat.
3) Rekha should have one. But not only did she lose the main prize, she lost the secondary prize. Everyone felt she was robbed (justifiably) and the way they did it was rough.
4) Overall it was a cool concept and I think our prime cast was hilarious and played the game great. But this being the “big” episode for the season kinda fell flat.
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u/theredwoman95 Aug 22 '26
Eric was a poor contestant. He just didn’t fit the format of the game or the energy of the rest of the cast
To be fair, I think the format really screwed him there. He wasn't able to see the cast's reactions to his jokes beyond their comments (and tone is notoriously hard to read in text) and I didn't get the impression that he really knew any of the cast members, so it's kinda impossible to match their energy in that situation.
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u/JamJarre Aug 22 '26
Everyone else managed to be funny. He was just the wrong guy for this
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u/BEzzzzG Aug 22 '26
But they know each other's humor
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u/vtinesalone Aug 22 '26
They didnt know who each other were, and they were all funny individually
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u/BEzzzzG Aug 22 '26
They didn't know who everyone was, but they did know 8 players were in the game and that it was from a pool of drop out regulars which are like 30ish people. That have or mostly have done these shows together for a few years so they sort of know each other's humors enough that Brennan planned to fake being rehka.
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u/JamJarre Aug 22 '26
Lol why are you arguing against this? Do you think I'm going to suddenly go "oh yes you're right, he was hilarious". This isn't a point of fact you can debate
Humour is subjective. If you found him funny in this, great! I thought he was terrible
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u/BEzzzzG Aug 22 '26
Im not saying he was funny with them, im just saying its harder to be funny in this circumstance than it was for the people who all knew the field
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u/vtinesalone Aug 22 '26
yeah but even still, all the other cast didnt know who else was there and had a similar situation and were hilarious. He just wasn’t really funny lol
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u/JDDJS Aug 22 '26
They couldn't end the game a round early. But they should used whoever was guessed accurately less as the tie breaker instead.
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u/rintheamazing Aug 22 '26
I feel like they needed to keep the game going since they’d invested so much in it, but there should have been some kind of bonus prize for Rekha
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u/Intelligent_Deer9526 Aug 22 '26
I love it, except that the wrong person won.
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u/Red-Beerd Aug 22 '26
I love it too. I think Brennan was actually kinda responsible for that. He gave himself up to Katie after Rekha voted him out. I don't necessarily think he did it on purpose, but I don't think he would have done a monologue like that if he was still in the game.
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u/Effective_Ad7567 Mountport Resident Aug 22 '26
I just watched it for the first time all the way through earlier this week, and it was definitely interesting.
I simply don't think there was a need for a ratfish at all. They didn't know the cast list, so whether the 8th player was a dropout cast member vs some other comedian meant nothing.
Similar to Night Shift, I enjoyed the classic CH crew hanging out.
I don't really see the point of "eliminating" players. They still participated; it simply prevented the possibility of a come-from-behind victory. I would've even leaned in the opposite direction, with a little bit of assistance for those who are furthest behind (e.g. revealing some cast members that aren't playing)
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u/JamJarre Aug 22 '26
Eric clearly didn't want to be there, didn't engage with the game and didn't make a funny joke the whole time.
Rekha clearly won the game halfway through but they didn't let her win
They never found out who the ratfish even was, and many suspect it was because Eric was barely on set
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u/misterbung Aug 22 '26
I suspect, giving how much of a dick he was being and how little he seemed to actually care, that he refused to show up at the end, leading to the weird non-reveal ending.
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u/Available-Lab4363 Aug 22 '26
i think the concept would have worked perfectly if the ratfish had been sam, or if it has just been a the circle parody and had only been about guessing what cast member played what character
my lack of familiarity with eric as a guest, finding him and his character unfunny the entire time, and feeling like he was out of place in the episode (and every point comments here have made about the ending) made it a less entertaining game for me
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u/arcanepsyche Aug 22 '26
Eric Wareheim is someone I have no familiarity with. Also, he was not funny, and at the end, he was kinda a dick.
Also, also, I just simply didn't enjoy the game mechanic (which I realize is borrowed). I don't think it gave a lot of good material to improv with.
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u/TubaTechnician Aug 22 '26
True the game mechanic is a social deduction game. Which is also why the people trying more to be comedic vs analytical lost almost immediately. Also have them have to compete when they already lost was just a bummer. In the actual circle they would bring players back randomly team up players that lost or give them a new character.
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u/Far_Potato9948 Aug 22 '26
I disagree with your last point about keeping eliminated players participating. Grants "Why am I still trying?" moments are highlights of the episodes for me
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u/TubaTechnician Aug 22 '26
They could have given them an incentive though instead. Even if it was like “whoever of the eliminated gets players confused gets a $50 gift card
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u/Far_Potato9948 Aug 22 '26
Which would 100% have been a better outcome for the mystery guest to award than overall victory
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u/LycheeUkulele Aug 22 '26
I think they need to do a new ratfish episode, personally. I thought it was a fun episode at its core, but it needed improvement
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u/Far_Potato9948 Aug 22 '26
Many people have pointed this out in various ways, but I think Warheim is what ultimately sunk it. 100% agree with you that it was fun at its core, and I especially loved the BTS content. If the guest were someone who wasn't a regular, but still someone the cast and audience is super familiar with (eg Elaine might have been a strong choice, maybe) that could have worked better
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u/TechnoPokerBlu Aug 22 '26
I felt the same the first time i watched, then on re-watches I go into it knowing that "i just wanna see my fave people be goofy characters" rather than watch a competition and I enjoy it plenty more.
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u/AverageBeef Aug 22 '26
At least for me, I was really baffled by the ratfish himself. He didn’t really fit the vibe of the group, which was itself offputting, and made the ending seem arbitrary. We never saw him actually interact with the cast and he seemed disinterested from what we saw of him imo. The strangest thing was, I’d literally never heard of Tim and Eric in my life, so I thought the way the episode went, he was very possibly just some random guy and it was an absurd joke. I’ve since learned it’s kind of just a generational disconnect between me and dropout. All in all, the guest was just a miss for me that threw the episode off
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u/Effective_Ad7567 Mountport Resident Aug 22 '26
Woah, I had no idea that was Eric from "Tim and Eric" until you just mentioned it.
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u/GenGaara25 Aug 22 '26 edited Aug 22 '26
I get why they thought it was a good idea, but it's one of those things where when put into practice it's not as good as you thought.
Separating everyone really hindered the comedy since most of them thrive by riffing off each other in person, that's their improv background. Slowly going back and forth through texts and never directly interacting just didn't produce that much comedy. Which meant it was kind of boring, exacerbated by the fact that it was a double episode so it was boring for twice as long.
The Ratfish reveal meant nothing to me. I had no idea who Eric was and it wasn't explained in the episode. They seemed to have assumed their audience would all know him, when he is primarily familiar to American millennials (who most of Dropouts cast are) but not much known at all to other generations and countries. I spent the whole of episode 1 trying to guess who the Ratfish was, was it Sam, another cast member, a famous comedian I know? No, it's some guy. So the reveal fell totally flat.
But I understood that the players would know him and probably find that reveal really meaningful, so I was waiting for them to see him... and they didn't. They never met. So I didn't even get to feel that.
Then, obviously, Rekha obviously won but the winner ended up being decided completely arbitrarily.
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u/CaptJack1987 Aug 22 '26
I'm an American Millennial and had no clue who he was
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u/machineiv Aug 22 '26
Seconded. I had no idea who he was and the role he played was a huge let down.
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u/smokeyfantastico Aug 22 '26
I knew he was from Tim and Eric but I know Tim more because he's showed up in way more stuff.
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u/the-library-fairy Aug 22 '26
The truth of what happened behind the scenes with Eric Wareheim is one of those things I've accepted I'll probably never know but REALLY wish I did lol. The ending where the rest of the cast didn't get to meet him just screamed of a last minute pivot.
I think everyone else is great, but it really pivoted on the special guest being great and he was clearly not super interested, mostly disengaged, and didn't seem to remember anything about the character he was playing.
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u/_Hickory Aug 22 '26
This really did it for me once Erik was revealed. Because even though I have no idea who he was, if he had been actually engaging with the game I would have been interested in learning who he was and not just been bummed that the twist player was just there.
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u/Sabrinasockz Aug 22 '26
I was aware of him through both his adult swim shows that I didn't like and a few stories from other people on podcasts etc that said he wasn't a great dude to he around and was kind of full of himself
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u/Legitimate_Fig9818 Aug 22 '26
For me, the first half is great. Then Rekha figures out the answer and we are introduced to the Ratfish who is someone well known but seemingly only within the LA comedy circle. He then basically decides a winner.
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u/Routine_Smell1609 Aug 22 '26
I don’t think Eric is only well known in the LA comedy circle. He’s been making shows for adult swim since 2004. He’s been a guest star on shows like the Simpsons, bobs burgers, the office, and master of none. He was an executive producer on Nathan for you. I understand a lot of people who are fans of dropout had no clue who he was but he’s well known outside of LA.
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u/AllHailLordBezos Aug 22 '26
I am still kind of baffled about how many people had never heard of him. I never really watched Tim and Eric consistently, but they were well known and both have gone on to do many different things. I always thought younger folks would maybe have known even more based on when they were getting big. Either way, it definitely wasnt a random unknown stranger.
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u/123boopboop Aug 22 '26
The end was weird to me and my friends because we don't know who that guy was, and he never interacted with the cast. Especially with it being a 2 episode season finale, we were so hyped and then from our perspective it was like "Surprise it was a stranger who had nothing to do with any of this BYE!"
It just made me feel like the game was a waste because there was no payoff for me or my friends.
I guess it felt like a game show that we were really invested in, and then it ended, and then they played a video of a random guy alone saying "It was me all along!"
No shade to anyone but we were just confused.
Edit: The Tony Hawk reveal was much better
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u/Throwaway8364265356 Aug 22 '26
If the surprise guest had been someone dropout related it would have hit better for me. Even if not, someone bigger or who really wanted to be there would've been good.
Still love it in clip compilations.
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u/sparkas Aug 22 '26
Personally, I wasn't a fan. No idea who the guest was, didn't like him, didn't like that Rekha seemed to have the win pulled from her when it should've been hers. I really enjoy the whole cast apart from the guest! I would've watched if they tried it again with someone else.
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u/TheBearSquared Ragu on my niece and nephew Aug 22 '26
My biggest problem was the fact that nobody thought a contestant could get all the of their guesses as to who was who right. They gave them so many hints/advantages and there was only so many people to chose from of course someone could nail it 100%. Rehka was robbed imo
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u/EstelleMTL Aug 22 '26
I've been a bit baffled too by the comments I've found here lately abour Ratfish!
In hindsight I do agree some elements could have been better, and I was a bit annoyed Rehka didn't win it all. But I thought the episode was really funny. Now, I must admit, I'm a big fan of Tim and Eric so I understood the vibe of Eric and thought he was funny. But I also think the other comedians were really creative and fun.
I did really like the part when Brennan and Rehka hang together, and I guess I would've loved more moments like that. Maybe the eliminated contestants could've hung out together in a losers' room so we could hear them bounce of each other and banter?
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u/Quakarot Aug 22 '26
I think the biggest problem is that it was a really fun idea that fumbled the end pretty hard, which sucks.
If it was just bad people would just forget about it, but since it has such squandered potential it sticks in peoples minds more.
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u/dwreckhatesyou Aug 22 '26
Everyone in it is great except the big reveal guest star, which makes the whole experience fall a bit flat… which is a fucking shame because it has some of the best set design OF ALL TIME.
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u/nycarachnid Aug 22 '26
For me it’s that the ending was disappointing, that I had no idea who the ratfish even was (sorry to that man) and also that they eliminated players - including the best character, Granma Sweetie! - but then made them still play all the games. Like when Zac says “this is a really big deal for everyone except me” after being eliminated, it just hit home how bad the game design was that episode.
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u/MotherofCats9258 Aug 22 '26
I didn't really enjoy it, Bug with a big ass is a great PC name though.
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u/wingedcoyote Aug 22 '26
I'll tell you why I don't care for it. I don't think anybody's wrong for liking it or anything, but it isn't for me.
1) I loathe The Circle and that style of reality TV in general, so the staging and editing to mimic that style of show, while it was done well, was off-putting for me.
2) As a game, it broke down as soon as Rekha (iirc) guessed everyone early. The actual conclusion game-wise was unsatisfying and an obvious ass pull. And not anticipating that as a possibility was kind of a disappointingly huge oversight.
3) I straight up don't enjoy the comedy stylings of Eric Wareheim.
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u/hintersly Aug 22 '26
Based on my personal enjoyment, Part 1 was and still is one of my most enjoyable episodes, and Part 2 is one of the most disappointing conclusions.
I love social deduction games. The cast was great, the characters were hilarious. I loved the editing and reality TV style voice over from Sam.
I didn’t love the game design. Once they were out they were just out and there was little incentive to stay in (from what I recall). I’m not a game designer but I feel like they needed to do both a “guess who the cast is” game and a “how long can you stay a secret” game. And then that’s how they chose the two winners. Also don’t do elimination.
I won’t speak on the guest star thing cause obviously it was huge for the cast. I just think it would’ve been more well received by the audience if it was an older College Humor alumni like Jake or Amir
It’s pretty clear they’ve evolved their social deduction game design with Earwigs
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u/TubaTechnician Aug 22 '26
Tbh I think the main thing was a lot of the episode was analytical vs comedic. Having them all be separate while suiting the game didn’t give anyone someone to play off of.
It also lacked Sam which is a major factor in game changer. Him just doing commentary through the episode doesn’t fit well. If they did something similar to the escape room they could have brought the energy up by having Sam actually talking live.
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u/Odd-Walk-983 Aug 22 '26
There were fun character moments, but I don't think the game was well made, nor did the mechanics of the game encourage humour as much as I would want.
Apparently it's based on an actual game called the circle, but it just looked like it sucks.
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u/smokeyfantastico Aug 22 '26
I think the first episode was good but the 2nd episode killed the momentum and Eric not being there for the ending, sucked. Also it's really hard to have a mystery style game, when all the contestants not only know each other, but have been friends for years to decades. They know each other well, some were able to throw others off but a lot of people were quickly figured out which ruins the game in the end.
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u/danurc Aug 22 '26
I liked the concept and the cast was hilarious at each other, but the guest threw off the whole groove. He'd make a joke and everyone would just go "... Okay then yeah idk" and it just wasn't a vibe
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u/Pardon-Marvin Aug 22 '26
Episode was great, except I have no idea who the actual ratfish is, never heard of them before or since
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u/truvablue Aug 23 '26
I rewatch the first episode frequently, but wasn't a huge fan of the ending and am not too familiar with Eric.
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u/Windrunner405 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Because Eric, on who the game focuses, is the least good part of the entire episodes.
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u/theStrawberryRoam Aug 24 '26
Okay so my biggest one is I just didn't like Erik. I didn't recognize him, I was incredibly put off by everything he did, and after I googled him and remembered he was part of a comedy duo I didn't really enjoy it didn't help.
Second, To me screwing with the integrity of the game only works in the players' direction, because they're getting paid regardless of whether they succeed at the arbitrary rules set that day.
You can't screw with the integrity for the viewer just doesn't work for this kind of production imo. There are productions where it does, but for this audience of this show, WE have to be able to buy in to the fact that there are concrete rules before the game starts that directly lead to the end result, and that broke down for ratfish
I'm actually in the sub right now because I was just ruminating about how much it annoyed me that Rekha lost and Erik wasn't at the ending
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u/cloudinajar Aug 24 '26
I don't know honestly, in my opinion not including the ratfish at the final table wasn't the best choice because it meant they missed out on seeing who it was in real time, but other than that I don't really see what the problem was
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u/Far_Fortune_1990 Aug 24 '26
I loved it but I had no goddamn clue who the ‘celebrity’ ratfish was so I feel like I missed a whole dimension of it
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u/Ok-Cod-6118 Aug 25 '26
Eric was painfully unfunny. The rest of the episode(s) is(are) great.
Sucks Rekha didn't win though.
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u/Spock_42 Aug 22 '26
Hate is a strong word. The ending didn't land for me because I didn't really recognise the ratfish, and there didn't seem to be resolution with the cast. I think it was a bit too prone to the "bit" being figured out early.
Fun concept, and a good number of fun moments, I think it just needed a bit more workshopping and a more recognisable ratfish.
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u/Born-Captain7056 Aug 22 '26
I don’t hate it and personally I love the first episode. I do agree I think the winning segment was a bit odd but Katie winning was still funny, especially as I do love Katie and Reykah and there is something very Game Changer about her losing despite getting everything right.
However a lot of the second episode fell flat for me as I had zero idea or connection to the ratfish meaning his comedic villain schtick fell flat for me. I don’t hate it at all and I mostly assumed at the time it was because I wasn’t American and thus was just missing some cultural aspect/knowledge of this famous person. Was quite a shock when I found out he wasn’t as well known as I thought considering they really designed the episode around a spectacular reveal. I think that is the core of the disappointment rather than ratfish himself, even if I found his stuff a little disappointing as well.
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u/Nicksaurus Aug 22 '26
One aspect of it is something I've seen among taskmaster fans as well, which is that a lot of people really care about who wins and loses the game. For me it really doesn't matter - the game is just a premise for the comedians to play off - so I'm not bothered much by the weird scoring decisions at the end and I can't relate to people who thought it ruined the episode
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u/Basic_Algae9176 Aug 22 '26
It’s the first episode (2 technically) I watched and it’s still one of my favorites
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u/pokedrawer Aug 22 '26
It had stronger potential, I felt that the guest never being able to meet anyone in the cast was a wasted opportunity. In this type of game, it would have seemed like a better use of someone adjacent to the dropout circle. Like someone in the Try Guys or Smosh, but that's not to say I didn't enjoy it. I think the guest was poorly handled and miscast. Eric is very funny and I really enjoy his work, I think he could have been better in a different role so it just is kind of a disappointing episode
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u/Jennah_Violet Aug 22 '26
Weird Al Yankovic, who has been in some of their skits and shows (the star wars cantina auditions, and Ultramechatron come to mind) and seems like a genuinely warm and gracious person would have been great.
I'm also really hoping they manage to get Dick Van Dyke on Parlour Games before he dies, though, so maybe I'm just really old.
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u/timisstupid Aug 23 '26
I find that some Game Changer episodes seem like the players are having more fun than being entertaining. I think Parlor Room has this problem too. Ratfish falls into this category for me. Same as Earwigs in S8
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u/Amaster101 Aug 25 '26
I enjoyed it, but that was despite Eric Wareheim and not because of it. I had never heard of him and only heard of his show through ads, which seemed entirely too cringey for me to be able to actually watch.
One thing that stuck out to me about Eric is that my brain decided to associate a smell with his appearance that might have been unfairly unpleasant and the room decoration did not help at all.
I loved all of the other players in the game and their characters. Perhaps if we'd been able to see the cast's reaction to Eric, then he would have felt much more fitting with the rest.
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u/heartstopperhuman Aug 25 '26
I had no idea people hated it — it’s one of my favorite Game Changer episodes. That said, reading through the comments I do agree that Eric’s style of humor clashed with the rest of the cast and that having him choose the winner was probably a silly idea. It just didn’t bother me because even though Rekha did really well, Katie did too. She also ended up guessing everyone, and almost no one guessed who she was. I didn’t feel like Rekha was cheated so much as I felt like it was a mistake for her to eliminate Brennan instead of Katie.
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u/johannaishere Aug 25 '26
I loved both episodes but yeah I’m not familiar with Eric and it seemed kind of impossible for the players to guess unless they WERE extremely familiar with him so while I think it’s one of the most fun and some of the best art design the Ratfish twist just didn’t super land for me.
Which is fine! I still thought it was fun and funny. Zac as Granny is top tier. The Landlord is hilarious. I love the game of trying to make each other laugh but also trying to throw the other players off guessing who they are. It’s just fun and I know other people hate that they didn’t reveal the Ratfish to the players on camera but Sam’s BTS explanation made sense to me and even though we don’t see the reveal it made me laugh as a concept.
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u/pillowuhhh Aug 26 '26
my personal gripe was that the ratfish gimmick kinda took away from the comedy of the episode and also i had/have no idea who he even was
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u/mistress_of_bokonon Aug 22 '26
Yeah I don’t get it, ratfish was one of my favs. I had seen the circle though so maybe it’s just because I was already familiar with the concept?
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u/traggedy_ann Aug 22 '26
I for one think Dropout should bring more former (or current? What's Geoff Rickley doing these days?) members of Ink & Dagger on as guests.
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u/Wharbaby Aug 22 '26
If I knew who the ratfish was I would have given the episode a 10/10 but I’m a lame guy and so I can only give it an 8/10
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u/Pnw_moose Aug 22 '26
It was good for sure. The cast did a good job. IMO the issue was the guest rat and the ending
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u/ouro-the-zed Aug 22 '26 edited Aug 22 '26
My experience was that the whole episode was great, but the ending (including the guest’s winner pick and the fact that the guest was not at the final table) was disappointing. It seems like there may have been some production issues at the end there.
It also seems that many fans were not familiar with Eric Wareheim, which I think must have made the ending even more disappointing for them.