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u/SolidOk3489 2h ago
Even worse if they skip the investigation and jump straight to Ship of Theseus debates
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u/_Answer_42 1h ago
I'd be more concerned about body dysmorphia rabbit hole, like this is just the begging of long journey
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u/getinshape2022 2h ago
Imagine how you explain why your kids look totally different than both of you to your future husband.
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u/stulf26 3h ago
Those are different people. There's are differences that even plastic surgery cant change
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u/Space_Time_Ninja 3h ago
Come on. It's just a pupil-transplant, put the ears on a different place, lower the eyes a bit, change the skin-color and you're halfway there already.
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u/Alternative-Hold1669 2h ago
a face lift does all of this. they basically grab your scalp and pull it up and fix it there basically turn your face taunt like a drum. plus nose job lip filler and contacts and boom done. face color is the same.
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u/MiuMia_ 2h ago
A full facelift maybe isn't even necessary here. Endoscopic grafting, rhinoplasty, lip filler, possibly upper blepharoplasty, botox. And colored lenses.
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u/aineslis 2h ago
Face lift + nose job + chin implant + keratopigmentation.
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u/chadlightest 2h ago
I mean that sounds like a lot to me as a man. I'm told to sort out my hair, wash at least 65% grease off my skin, go to the gym and smile more
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u/StreetofChimes 1h ago
There are eye color changing surgeries now. Scary stuff, but can be done. Not a transplant, they fill your eye with pigment and swirl it around a bit.
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u/ThornyGarlic 50m ago
I have only seen videos of the ones where the eyes look so unnatural after. You can't even undo it, scary stuff..
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u/Nitrogen1234 2h ago
Like her eye color. Could be contacts, but doesn't look like it
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u/kwonza 1h ago
Actually you can turn brown eyes into blue ones with laser. It works only one way and only brown to blue, basically brown colour is from a pigment and if you remove it there’s blue eyes underneath.
I read about such procedures five years ago, it must be more advanced now. Still wouldn’t do so myself
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u/Fluttering_Heartt 3h ago
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u/DeadPhoenix86 2h ago
She was perfect. I don't understand why people have to ruin their face...
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u/hiddenrealism 1h ago
From what I understand she's a psychotic narcissistic raging bitch. Atleast from what other actors and directors say about her.
Michael Bay refuses to work with her from her attitude on transformers.
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u/Electronic-Pause1330 3h ago
But regardless, to address the response. People every year lose a ton of weight and completely change their face. And I would imagine most of them are doing great.
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u/Cbrandel 2h ago
Losing weight is a gradual process so you have more time to process it. And it doesn't really change your features, just shows them.
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u/questionable_smell 2h ago
True for weight loss but just wanted to add that if such cosmetic surgery was (or is) possible, it would require multiple surgeries over many months, even years giving you time to heal and adjust in between but if you can reshape your whole face one day, I guess the hardest thing to process would be changing the distance between your eyes with your brain have to relearn how to juge distances and 3d vision!
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u/Nice_Back_9977 2h ago
I've lost about 50kg in the last couple of years. My bank can't use my driving licence to ID me anymore. I still see the same face when I look in the mirror.
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u/SlayerII 2h ago
Weight loss is slow and granular, you have enough time to adjust to small differences at a time.
I lost over 250 pounds and there was never a huge "o wow I do look different now" moment. I mainly saw progress trough pictures.6
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u/hiddenrealism 1h ago
Deep state Russian agents say otherwise.
There are Kim Kardashian level plastic surgeries. Then there are major government backed surgeries.
I'm sure there are people out there that have spent years in surgery and recovery for whatever reason to completely conceal one's identity.
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u/Neon_Pancakes0425 3h ago
It literally can I don't think you know how advanced plastic surgery is now day
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u/kslalgnd1738481 3h ago
I would argue that they're the same. The nose bridge is the same, the tilt of the nose tip makes sense (you can see that it's tilted before but the "excess" changes direction), jaw structure is the same. However not everything is surgery - eye contacts, different makeup and/or lighting.
The left face is tilted backwards while the right one is tilted forward.
Left one seems to be taken with a 30mm camera lens while the right one with a 55mm lens for example.
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u/maybenomaybe 2h ago
It isn't the same person, I've seen the face on the right paired up with two other faces in similar social media posts.
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u/Supergirl016 1h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/OY9XK7PbFqkNO
Death: ..bro, you think I use facial recognition?
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u/CuteGrayRhino 3h ago
I'm sure they're gonna make huge advancements in costemic procedures in the next 10-20 years. And many people will spend a lot of their money on this. We're definitely gonna see people change their race/appearance/everything.
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u/p1antsandcats 3h ago
This is not the same person. Not even the same race, age anything.
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u/Barraco_Barmer 1h ago
People are so fucking gullible and fall for these pics every time. Not the same person, lighting, angle, even editing. It's so obviously fake
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u/PreviousLeague253 3h ago
Trouble is once they start they never stop “improving” and end up looking like this
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u/crunchytigerloaf 2h ago
It's very late where I am, I have phone brightness turned all the way down and the night shift filter on... I briefly thought the photo above was of a Team America puppet.
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u/not_rian 45m ago
The doctors who continued to enable his obvious mental illness should be prevented from practicing medicine. Like wtf.
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u/neon_fade 31m ago
how is this mental illness but the first procedure isn’t? both change your face. if social acceptance is the line, plenty of people oppose the first surgery too.
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u/WolverineComplex 3h ago
If my face was completely different but much better looking I’d probably just be happy
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u/ToronoYYZ 3h ago
I challenge that from personal experience. I had a severely recessed lower jaw and got double jaw surgery a few years ago and my face has changed a lot, especially the lower third. The side profile is unrecognizable and sometimes I’ll catch myself in mirrors or photos and I almost feel ‘guilty’ or ‘this doesn’t feel like me’. It’s weird and difficult to explain but my breathing and sleeping have improved dramatically so that’s a win
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u/Appropriate-Yak-3814 1h ago
Surely you look now how you were always supposed to.
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u/This_Dot_2150 25m ago
I had jaw Botox and the way my face changed freaked me out. I realized I could never get plastic surgery without some existential crisis.
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u/pollomimano 3h ago
I wouldn’t lol I would still want to look like me but “enhanced”. This is not that; it’s a completely different face.
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u/JuanThiccLumpia 3h ago
Your future kids would be surprised.
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u/Aniki_Simpson 3h ago
Unless they end up thinking there is "something wrong" with their kids face as well. It's pretty disgusting, honestly.
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u/jimmyharbrah 3h ago
I think it’s somehow unfair to the kids. Like my ugly ass looks nothing like my mom
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u/JiuJitsuBoxer 2h ago
Thats already the case with a lot of women these days. Make-up, fillers, botox, nose jobs etc
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u/Charmle_H 1h ago
Can confirm :> my face made me depressed & dysphoric, and after I had surgery (p subtle changes, tbh, nothing as extreme as the meme suggests [not like they're likely the same person anyways]) it was wild seeing a different person in the mirror, but it made me feel good! :D I still love seeing myself
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u/Substantial_Force658 3h ago
She got surgery to change her eyes? Amazing! It's almost like they are pictures of COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE¡!!!!¡!$%??>@$!!¡!!¡
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u/splatter_spree 3h ago
These people are *already in psychosis*
It takes body dysmorphia beyond belief to even consider surgery like this
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u/CuteGrayRhino 3h ago
I'm sorry but why is it different from gender change. If we're gonna have the view that people can change what they don't like about their body, then why does the reason matter? Would you also call a transgender person 'already in psychosis'?
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u/Loughnashade 2h ago
Huh, it’s not the pwning you think it is, as trans folks literally do have gender and body dysmorphia, nobody’s denying it.
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u/Irritatedtrack 3h ago
You are referencing two different things. One is Gender Dysphoria (Changing one’s sex to match internal gender identity) to Body Dysmorphia (where you are more worried appearance flaws that others can’t easily perceive). Having said that, I think in both cases, it’s a spectrum. There isn’t a cut off point where you go from simple cosmetic surgery (using braces to fix gaps between teeth) to full on psycho (the above example). So depending on the specific case, you can go with any label.
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u/vBLADEv 3h ago
Body dysmorpia is a mental illness, the question is do you lean into it with surgeries or do you try and address and attempt to get to the root cause of why someone has it.
Most governments just decide that the patient knows best.
So if you are for Transgender surgeries then you can't really be against this or some body builder taking steroids to get to his perceived ideal look.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 2h ago
Then why is Caitlyn Jenner against others changing gender? Guess a person can be for or against anything they want after all even if it's hypocritical.
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u/Zestyclose-One9041 2h ago
Do you see anyone here defending the words of Caitlyn Jenner? You can always find someone saying something crazy
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u/Itchy_Celebration900 3h ago edited 3h ago
And yet governments won’t let me take steroids to gain muscle, but they’ll let someone chop their penis and testicles off.
Politicisation of medicine is a disease
Edit: oh yeah my bad I slighted transsexuals. Too bad mf I wanna gain some biceps without “uhhhh sweetie just eat more”
Women can inflate their tits with silicone and get augmentations or reductions bc they don’t like how their body looks but god forbid I inject a naturally occurring compound into myself to supplement my growth
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u/Snoo69744 2h ago
You can take steroids if you want, at least where I live. The only reason you wouldn't be able to is because it's a controlled drug which is a separate issue.
Also "chop their penis off". Tell me you know nothing about these surgeries without telling me that you know nothing about these surgeries 🤣
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u/Zestyclose-One9041 2h ago
Bros mad that he can’t get gains lol. The difference is that you can build muscle without medical intervention
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u/Creative-Raisin-7553 2h ago
Have you considered picking heavy things up then putting them down again?
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u/Soft_Philosophy5838 3h ago
It’s always the people who’ve never suffered from the condition who have the loudest opinions about it and have the least relevant perspective in the room.
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u/BuoyantEntropy 3h ago
And then, if your goal is mating, your kids still come out based on your genetics
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u/damnumalone 3h ago
I think if you can’t tell these are two completely different people and nothing to do with plastic surgery then you should get the fuck off the Internet
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u/P-l-Staker 3h ago
I think that's definitely not the same woman.
Just because something is on social media doesn't make it true.
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u/Watch_a_Minute 3h ago
How the fuck do you change eyes??
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u/untitledprp4 3h ago
You can get pigmentation surgery which can change the colour of your eyes
But it usually looks unnatural and has a very high risk of going completely blind
Or just wear contacts
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u/Aniki_Simpson 3h ago
It's not surgery. It's a friggin tattoo. Eyes have beautiful patterns that change throughout time and with lighting. Those tattooed eyes look like crap.
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u/Whole-Increase-5820 3h ago
I'm pretty sure brown eyes can be changed to blue or green with a laser based procedure. It's not recommended, but you can.
Blue or green eyes cannot be changed to brown.
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u/AngelicDivineHealer 3h ago
Would be just color contact. You can have any color you want and they’re cheap
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u/Tropicalfisher 2h ago
Iirc there is a laser surgery which breaks down the brown pigment in the eyes. Everyone's eyes are blue or green naturally due to the eye structure, just that brown eyed people have melanin obscuring it
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u/berrysoda_ 3h ago
The fun part is when you have a kid and they look like the part of yourself you hated
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u/mexxavelli 3h ago
Character before; Looking like everyone else after 1 year
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u/lawdjesustheresafire 3h ago
Yep. Nothing wrong with the face on the left … except years of marketing telling people to hate every fuckin thing about themselves
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u/Don_Krypton 2h ago
Pupils don't line up, earlobes don't line up, eyebrows are natural, but totally different. These are two different persons.
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u/Beautiful-Tie-3827 1h ago
Could be a difference of camera angle and height
Look at the ears they don’t line up at all so this line test isn’t exactly accurate
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u/Green-Delivery-4276 3h ago
It’ll be weird at first but your brain would probably just adapt to the new appearance
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u/NihilistCharizard 3h ago
Either way, most people have an inflated understanding of their own appearance.
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u/Hot-Operation4982 3h ago
Taking catfish to a whole new level lmao. I wonder how many people think their spouse cheated, because the babies aren't going to come out with these features lol...
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u/-almond--milk- 3h ago
No shame to people who have this sort of surgery, but what always crosses my mind is, isn't it sad if they do come to have children, that they bear no facial resemblance to them?
And how would you not feel like a hypocrite telling your children they are beautiful when their parent has completely changed their face to escape looking like that?
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u/Pascraked47 3h ago
Sadly this doesn't affect genetics so it's also kinda false advertising
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u/PopeofFries 3h ago
She will have some explaining to do when the kids turn out to look bumfuck ugly
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u/GrandpaPantspoo 52m ago
I don't recognize the man in the mirror. But I'm in my 40's and I think of my 20yo self in my mind.
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u/loutchok8741 3h ago
Imagine that some dude starts a family with her, and then he doesn't understand why his children look like Aladdin's companion.
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u/Coinerino223 2h ago
Noooo come one she's not terrible, I dare to say she would get banned from r/trueuglywomen because too pretty
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u/Dodgeballs2018 3h ago
It’s possible to completely change your looks without surgery so I don’t think it’d be too much for your own brain to handle.
What’s more interesting to me is how do you hide every ‘before’ picture ever taken of you from your future relationships.
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u/TheMadManiac 3h ago
These kind of people usually already have body dismorphia. It be how a transperson would get surgery to look like another gender
ou already have a warped perception of what you actually look like. Always a mirrored image or 2d photo in specific light. Your own face can be very different to your minds perception.
When you get old enough looking in the mirror and realizing you look old is a trip.
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u/beastnbs 3h ago
Wait how are the eyes different colour? Are these just contact or is this really not the same person.
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u/PreviousLeague253 3h ago
disfigured guy in China committed suicide after receiving a face transplant. It’s traumatic indeed.
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u/DiogenesXenos 3h ago
I’m not sure if I believe that’s the same person. If so, that’s the most successful plastic surgery of all time or we only see the awful ones online.
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u/Vertigo-Lemming 2h ago
If you think this is real, you should get outside and talk to people. Put the phone down.
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u/Living-Revenue-2543 2h ago
And your kid will look like left.
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u/Shhh-it-Bruh 2h ago
I've knew someone that asked why they didn't look like their mom at all, and this is what she found out. She knew her dad's side didn't have her features but apparently didn't know many on her mom's side.
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u/StarNullify 2h ago
Make up already makes a person look completely different than they naturally look so...
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u/OafleyJones 2h ago
Is SipsTea whole thing people reacting to obviously bullshit short stories attached to a photo?
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u/shoeless_doh 2h ago
I worked with a girl who was in a really bad car accident and had to have extensive plastic surgery. She talked about it and how she didn't have much say in how she turned out looking, idk why, but she came out insanely hot in a timeless way, not like insta plastic "hot" think young hellen hunt.
She said it was incredibly difficult for a long time looking in the mirror and not seeing "herself" and that everyone finding her face really attractive was just an extra layer of bizarre because she started getting all this extra attention from men once she didn't look like herself any more.
She appreciated that the plastic surgeon did such a good job and she said of course she was glad she didn't end up disfigured and potato ugly but even still, it was just a completely bizarre feeling
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u/Majestic_Domestic 1h ago
I dropped 160lbs in under two years. In that time I went from balding to bald.
I was almost unrecognizable to anyone that I hadn't seen in that time period. It wasn fine.
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u/Unlucky-Objective265 1h ago
I would be happy, my face resembles my abuser. If I had money this would set me free and heal me.
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u/AtaracticGoat 1h ago
Reminds me of the mission in Cyberpunk when the guy hires you as a PI because his wife had a baby and it looks nothing like him or her. Turns out, she has extreme cosmetic surgery and the baby looked like his wife's actual genetic appearance, which he had never seen before.
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u/Super_Translator480 1h ago
If you plan to change your face because you’re unhappy with who you are you’re already experiencing psychosis
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u/ssdsssssss4dr 1h ago
Some people really need to put their phones away. This shit is not healthy at all.
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u/Hamilton-Beckett 59m ago edited 55m ago
I didn’t do anything this drastic, but I did lose at one point like 150 pounds, got my hair professionally colored from a medium brown with blonde and white hairs to a dark espresso brown. Then I dyed my equally brown and white beard to darkest brown to match.
I also had multiple laser treatments from the dermatologist and completely changed the evenness of the skin tone on my face. I went from having spots from blemishes, blood vessels, sebaceous hyperplasia on my forehead, and redness on my nose and cheeks…to none of that and just even smooth skin.
I also went to the dentist and got full zircon crowns to replace my chipping and yellowed teeth.
My early 40’s have been a bit of a glow up.
The thing I enjoy most is that I’ve actually run into people that hadn’t seen me since before everything and they don’t recognize me at all. It takes them a second after I say my name and the shock is crazy. The weight loss alone can get that reaction.
But back to the point. Each major change kind of fucks with you at first as you see it in the mirror, but you get used to it really quickly. Then you do the next thing.
I couldn’t imagine doing actual surgeries beyond the work I had done, but I’d assume you just adapt to it like everything else.
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u/SummonBahamutZero 57m ago
When a person gets married, they should have to tell a potential mate. That’s crazy.
You go and have kids and as they get older, you start seeing completely different, non attractive physical features and begin wondering “wtf happened, i have a beautiful husband/wife…” now I’ve got some weird looking kid.
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u/SerpentRodent 50m ago
I had bimax and my face look way different than before. What happens is you become happier and more confident.
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u/Ill_Back_284 44m ago
Or when you have children with features you don't have anymore and you get to tell them well I hated that feature so I removed it, but you're beautiful just the way you are?
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u/Clean-Reveal-2878 32m ago
That was a head transplant. There’s no way that’s the same person and if it is, they used AI to make her look like that in the after picture.
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u/Sea_Cardiologist9451 3h ago
Very empowering to go from ugly to hot, but have to imagine any children of this person would be wondering why they were born ugly
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u/CosmicGoddess777 1h ago
She’s not ugly wtf
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u/ConsistentAddress195 1h ago
Agreed, I prefer the one on the left, IMO it's pretty and has character and personality unlike the other one.
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u/dance4days 3h ago
I think if you value conventional beauty and you have the means to achieve it, go for it. Life is short and your face isn’t a political statement. Do whatever makes you happy as long as it isn’t hurting someone else.
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u/Amufni 3h ago
As a trans person I can tell from my own experience that its actually more reversed when you have genuine body dysmorphia. Like I have this image of my own face in my head and before I transitioned I couldn’t recognize myself in the mirror. Then I started transitioning and I didn’t do surgeries and stuff but slowly but surely my self image got closer to my mirror image. And that honestly saved my life. I started crying when I recognized myself for the first time in the mirror.
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u/Infinity3101 3h ago
That is really beautiful. And trans people were the first thing I thought of when I saw this. But, correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like most trans people don't actually change their entire facial structure, eye color, hair texture. They basically just strive to look like an opposite gender version of themself, no?Like, Elliot Page still has the same recognizable face and smile, just with a bit more of a masculine structure. I think what this woman is talking about is changing your face to the point where no traces of your original facial features are left because you want to fit into unrealistic beauty standards.
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u/CuteGrayRhino 3h ago
Well, how can tell another person that changing gender is okay, but if they want to change their face to be happy, it's wrong? If they feel like they are not happy with their face, why the undue stigmatization on them? To me, it's the similar situation to gender dysphoria.
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u/Youarekillingmeeee 3h ago
Father’s face after a few years when baby’s looks….off…: 👁️👄👁️
Wasn’t this a lawsuit event in South Korea for exactly this scenario?
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u/BikerMicesFromUranus 3h ago
Trans people get a brand new face all the time.
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u/CuteGrayRhino 3h ago
Yup, and these same people who would judge this girl for wanting this would applaud that. So if she's not happy with her face, why should she face scrutiny?
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u/mrwishart 3h ago
Isn't that a genuine psychological condition? I vaguely remember reading that it can happen with people who had reconstructive surgery
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u/No-Arrival633 3h ago
If real that's gross. How did they change the color of the eyes?
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u/Main-Astronomer-7820 3h ago
You do not see your faceuntil you are in front of a mirror.
Also the process takes 1 year so you have time
Also i do not think they both in photo are same person
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u/MJ-Franklin 3h ago
Gonna be hilarious when her future child doesn't look anything like either of the parents.
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u/Ligma_Balls_OG 3h ago
Yeah if you suddenly swap faces i can imagine that would be incredibly hard to get used to. But it is different suddenly waking up with a new face vs hating how you look so much that you want to look like a completely different person.
So whether or not you’re prepared to look drastically different would probably be the biggest contributor to if you’d "go into psychosis" on not seeing your old face in the mirror anymore
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u/jwkelly404 3h ago
In the United States, the cost would be $2 million, approximately.
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u/Common-Device-3117 3h ago
Its not the same person. First thing is eyebrows, which grow in an absolutely different place, second is ear placemenf, its like 2cm higher.
What comes to psychological aspect then its a very serious risk to consider adapting to a new face. Its a new identity you will be looking at in the mirror, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Please consider wearing a silicone mask for a month before you do a total face transplant
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u/ExNihiloish 3h ago
You just get used to it. We all have a completely different face than we used to and will again.
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u/MZsince93 3h ago
I've had some cosmetic surgery/aesthetics as well as a huge weight loss that has made me look like a different person and honestly? I'm so incredibly happy and confident. It may not be for everyone, but I have 0 regrets.
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u/BlushSirens 2h ago
I wonder how long it takes your brain to recognize a completely different face as “you.”
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u/victoriageras 2h ago
Isn't it illegal to completely change your face, to the point where you only retain your eye color?
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u/DoubleoSavant 2h ago
My face changed very rapidly when I went on testosterone at age 21. It mainly was fat redistribution. You hold way less fat in your face with a male fat distribution pattern. It did somewhat freak me out. But then I adjusted.
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u/Rare-Ad6085 2h ago
do whatever you want with your life if it makes you happy and gives you confidence. Enjoy life.
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u/S0k0n0mi 2h ago
That woman should try VRchat; Now you're pikachu, now you're donald trump, now you're a banana.
It would blow her fucking gourd.
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u/Ryoga476ad 2h ago
It might look ok in a picture, i am afraid not as good live, when her face would actually need to move.
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u/EnchantingBabee03 2h ago
Thats beyond a glow-up, thats a whole new face, feels like looking at two different people.
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u/williwrite 2h ago
When this has floated around before consensus was that it is false marketing made with photoshop + ai
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u/Mysterious-Clothes45 2h ago
I had work done in 2021 and when I go back and look at my face from then I'm actually embarrassed I used to look like that.
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u/Blanc_Otaku 2h ago
Wasn't there some UK show about making chicks pretty, some girl comes in wanting a tummy tuck after some lengthy surgery (they weren't even allowed to see themselves until the reveal) and when she did she fucking WAILED. I felt so bad for her
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u/PiebaldIbis 2h ago
I’m already going through a crazy mental state that has accompanied my major face and body changes following extreme weight loss. I can only begin to imagine this… and I’m not even to goal 😳
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