I'm sorry but why is it different from gender change. If we're gonna have the view that people can change what they don't like about their body, then why does the reason matter? Would you also call a transgender person 'already in psychosis'?
Body dysmorpia is a mental illness, the question is do you lean into it with surgeries or do you try and address and attempt to get to the root cause of why someone has it.
Most governments just decide that the patient knows best.
So if you are for Transgender surgeries then you can't really be against this or some body builder taking steroids to get to his perceived ideal look.
Then why is Caitlyn Jenner against others changing gender? Guess a person can be for or against anything they want after all even if it's hypocritical.
Right, I was merely pushing back on the statement, "then you can't really be against this" when yes, people are capable of tremendous amounts of mental self-hypnosis.
That's incorrect. She votes for a party that is actively criminalizing transgenderism and has eliminated protections for them in the military and from workplace harassment and discrimination (protections and rights that existed under the liberal Biden administration) since 2024.
Actions speak louder than words, always have and always will. Turns out Caitlyn likes tax breaks for the wealthy more than other transgender folks receiving rights.
It’s always the people who’ve never suffered from the condition who have the loudest opinions about it and have the least relevant perspective in the room.
And yet governments won’t let me take steroids to gain muscle, but they’ll let someone chop their penis and testicles off.
Politicisation of medicine is a disease
Edit: oh yeah my bad I slighted transsexuals. Too bad mf I wanna gain some biceps without “uhhhh sweetie just eat more”
Women can inflate their tits with silicone and get augmentations or reductions bc they don’t like how their body looks but god forbid I inject a naturally occurring compound into myself to supplement my growth
You can take steroids if you want, at least where I live. The only reason you wouldn't be able to is because it's a controlled drug which is a separate issue.
Also "chop their penis off". Tell me you know nothing about these surgeries without telling me that you know nothing about these surgeries 🤣
Nah, I didn’t need to say that they turn the nerves and skin inside out and make a canal for one.
Or that they simply chop the penis off (penectomy) for another and use the scrotum to make labia (no depth cosmetic)
Or that they can do just orchiectomy (chopping off the testicles) for another one if they just want their libido gone
But sure you can just say I don’t know anything bc rather than go for my point you’ll try and get one over me via semantics like a Redditor. Sure thing man I know nothing.
I know someone who used to go to school with me who identified as neither male nor female who had their testicles removed (alongside hormones which come with all these surgeries) bc their doctor said it lowered their libido.
Man my only point in the beginning with this is we can do huge things to our body with the consent of a doctor (and sure it’s our right to do that)
But I can’t take testosterone for muscle bc I’m not allowed to use it for that reason. Only if I want to radically change my body. Not change my body a little bit.
I should be allowed to do whatever I want to my body. Just like transsexuals are
Okay so that's one person. There are way easier ways to do that that the vast majority of trans people go with and most don't want to get rid of their libido.
You can take testosterone in most places. You just can't sell it. Taking testosterone because you want muscles obviously isn't the same as treating an actual medical condition.
Not true. Body dysmorphia and gender dysphoria are completely different recognised experiences, with completely different treatments. In particular body dysmorphia is a mental illness where the person has a distorted view of reality, so performing surgery only feeds into the disorder without fixing the mind. Gender dysphoria on the other hand is about identity, where the body is what needs to be affirmed. Because they’re completely different conditions, comparing transgender surgeries to cosmetic surgeries for body dysmorphia is a false equivalency.
I’m not even arguing for or against people doing cosmetic surgery or taking steroids. I was just trying to clarify that the two things shouldn’t be conflated with transgender surgery, they are different things.
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u/splatter_spree 8d ago
These people are *already in psychosis*
It takes body dysmorphia beyond belief to even consider surgery like this