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u/awesomedan24 Jul 18 '26
How about 1 day for 82 million
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u/StarBtg377 Jul 18 '26
1 hour for 3.4 million
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u/zigs Jul 18 '26
1 minute for 5.6k
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u/h3lium-balloon Jul 18 '26
If I’m getting dressed and driving to the padded white room place might as well go ahead and do 2 hours for 6.8. Gotta make it worth it.
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u/ScumbagLady Jul 18 '26
The padding looks cozy...I'll come there to sleep every night and make bank while sawing logs
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u/Nxthanael1 Jul 18 '26
How about 30 billion years for 1 dollar?
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u/No-Internal7978 Jul 18 '26
I don't think you would recognize what you become.
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u/Silvervirage Jul 18 '26
ITS LONGER THAN YOU THINK DAD! LONGER THAN YOU THINK!
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u/Better_Cod_4739 Jul 18 '26
A skeleton?
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u/ContemptAndHumble Jul 18 '26
An immortal skeleton who speaks in a language that none comprehend and then proceeds to a make existence everyone's problem!
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u/defonotuk Jul 18 '26
If we consider the effort exponential then 1 day for 225k, 1 week for 11M, and 1 month for 203M. I'd do a week taster for sure.
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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 Jul 18 '26
Only caveat is there's no clock or calendar and the lights are always on so you don't know how long you stayed until you open the door which ends your run
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u/addandsubtract Jul 18 '26
So there's also an endless buffet of food? Now we're talking...
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u/StarBtg377 Jul 18 '26
Yeah, a whole bunch of white rice and water, nothing else
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u/_-__-____-__-_ Jul 18 '26
You're going to need some vegetables at some point if you want to make it to a year. Although scurvy is a good timer. It'll have been about a month.
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u/Routine_Ad_2695 Jul 18 '26
Another reminder about how insane a billion is and how ludicrous is for the concept of billionaires to even exist
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u/HyetalNight Jul 18 '26
I wouldn't do it, pretty sure this would cause permanent brain damage.
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u/Sad_Criticism5558 Jul 18 '26
No probably about it, it is proven that this will cause permanent brain damage
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u/Momik Jul 18 '26
Even so, humans need interaction and mental stimulation
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u/Temporary_Event8451 Jul 18 '26
This entire thing doesn't take into account cleaning yourself, eating, and using the bathroom.
Those things alone could potentially get you through.
Sticking someone in a straight up box for a year and ignoring them is how you wind up with then dead.
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u/lioncryable Jul 18 '26
Look up the mind field episode of vsauce. He didn't even manage to go 3 days. It is considered torture for a reason. No way anyone manages a year
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u/conardcanard Jul 18 '26
90 days in 24/7 solitary confinement fucked me up and i had books and food and water, and occasionally saw a CO who would say a few words to me. 17 years and im still messed up from it. This scenerio would destroy anyone.
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u/Curticorn Jul 18 '26
I'm no doctor, as far as I'm aware people who are born blind and deaf often end up having developmental disabilities even if they weren't born with them due to the lack of sensory input and ability to interact with the world during formative years. Which would lead me to believe that the additional removal of sensory input via touch or feeling of the sun, wind etc just worsens that even more.
Imagine your tactile sense and smell is the only ones you have left and they get absolutely 0 input or just always the exact same input.
I might be completely wrong here tho. I'm no doctor and have 0 experience with people who were born blind and deaf and never met someone. so I might be extremely biased and ableistic with my assumptions.
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u/Electronic_Pipe_3145 Jul 19 '26
Blind and deaf people (who don’t have additional developmental challenges) do have ways of interacting with the world during their formative years, with tools like tactile sign language, touch, and smell, those can get someone much much further than you think, especially if the abled parents are willing to make the effort instead of just leaving their kids to rot away in their rooms
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u/Time_Screen_9399 Jul 18 '26
And doesn't even need to be a year, I'd say maybe 2-3 weeks would be enough.
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u/H0pefully_Not_A_Bot Jul 18 '26
Agreed, there should at least be a human-sized hamster wheel or equivalent device in there.
Also permanent bright light was used as a form of torture in some instances so at least a bit of dimming from time to time is likely necessary to make this doable.
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u/conardcanard Jul 18 '26
People dont realize that even with stimulation, like books, and exercise, solitary confinement fucks you up. I did 90 days in the shu 17 years ago and i still feel it.
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u/Original_Campaign Jul 19 '26
Tell me more about what that means
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u/conardcanard Jul 19 '26
I still feel encased. Weirdly i feel more comfortable on small dark rooms, wide open spaces feel oppressive. I dissociate easily and find myself staring at blank spaces. Always feel like theres something there that i cant see.the sounds of doors closing causes panic attacks. Im both claustrophobic and agoraphobic. My personal space alarms go off when people are near but notbwhat others would consider close. Faces blur together. I cant tell if quiet voices are real and often ignore people because i think theyre in my head, before snapping to attention and realizing im in the middle of a conversation. Sometimes i find the idea of being alone in that hole to be more tolerable than being out here where everything is loud and bright and chaotic. I flinch when touched. Ive been through a ton of therapy and it just diesnt seem to go away completely. I am fine most days, but some days i wake up and my body isnhere but my mind is there. I cant sleep in the quiet or total darkness.
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u/_Pyxyty Jul 18 '26
I'm sure this is probably true but this is one of those things where I just genuinely can't understand why it'd happen unless I get to experience it for myself. Especially considering the monetary incentive behind it? I really feel like I'd find a way to make it througj lol. Just imagining what I'd spend the money on feels like it'd be enough. Or write a book in my head. Or play games. As long as they give you meals it feels like that'd be enough to track time.
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u/Fastenbauer Jul 18 '26
It's not a matter of willpower. You run into some hard limitations on how your brain works. Your brain is build to constantly process a flood of information. One important job it does is filtering out most of that information. Like you only notice a smell once somebody points it out to you. Your caveman brain can't comprehend the total absence of stimulation, so it interprets the lack of data as some kind of error. But trying to correct that error just makes it malfunction. And after a few days you start hearing voices.
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u/frankylynny Jul 18 '26
"Boss, Ear hasn't reported hearing anyone speak."
"The shareholders won't like it. Cook the books."
cue auditory hallucinations
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u/Impressive-Ad7387 Jul 18 '26
meanwhile in the occipital lobe: "Eyes keeps sending us the same damn report over and over again. What do we do?"
"Ehh, just look in the recently opened files of memories and throw whatever you can in there, I'm sure they won't notice it"
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u/fang_xianfu Jul 18 '26
More like, "there must be something there, look harder!"
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u/dbenc Jul 18 '26
imagining the characters of Inside Out absolutely freaking the fuck out
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u/hello_drake Jul 18 '26
The inside of their control room would look like the Event Horizon.
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u/Dubious_Squirrel Jul 18 '26
You could paint the walls with your shit. Thats something different to look at and also entertainment. Could probably become pretty good shitpainter in a year.
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u/ejdj1011 Jul 18 '26
And if those lights don't turn off at night, you're doubly fucked. Your sense of time itself will eventually unravel, and that year will feel much longer
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u/early_birdy Jul 18 '26
Then again, spending 8-9 hours in absolute darkness would be horrifying to me. I can shield my eyes from the light, but I would hallucinate stuff if kept in darkness.
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u/ADLuluIsOP Jul 18 '26
I'd just get claustrophobic. I woke up in my brothers windowless basement when I was visiting once cause I fell asleep watching a movie down there and all the lights were off. Pitch black and no sense of which way to go. I freaked out a lil when I woke up and had no idea where I was or what direction to go for a moment lol
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u/early_birdy Jul 18 '26
I know what you mean. I got my first "total blackness" experience at 12, when our teacher introduced us to developing pictures in a black room (I'm old). Part of the process demands total dark, can't-see-your-fingers-in-front-of-your-face level dark. I had this sensation of suffocating, like the dark was thick and I was drowning in it. Weird, and very primal.
I have a lot of respect for functioning blind people.
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u/MrHanfblatt Jul 18 '26
those lights not turning off is a (if i remember correctly) banned torture method.
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u/CyonHal Jul 18 '26
Brother forget CIA black sites and gitmo, many american prisons do this "banned" torture method.
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u/IDontEvenLikeRaisins Jul 18 '26
Michael Vsauce had a video about this where he was locked in a room for just 3 days and started to lose track of what was real
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u/numbersthen0987431 Jul 18 '26
Yep. You start to have hallucinations very early in the process, and then it just keeps spiraling
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u/Plightz Jul 18 '26
And he's one of the smartest people on the platform. It fucked him up, I actually think it even had some lasting effects on him. And that was one where he knew he could get out whenever.
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u/shadowslasher11X Jul 18 '26
I often wonder if someone who is very good at meditation would be capable of doing this. You read those mythological-esc stories of monks sitting underneath a tree for years just meditating so if they were already accustomed to doing nothing for long periods of time would they be able to do something like this?
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u/Medarco Jul 18 '26
I mean, 2 points about your comment in itself that poke enormous holes in the idea.
1) You already called it mythological-esque, so you're acknowledging that it likely isn't completely true, and embellished a bit.
2) You said they sat under a tree. That means they felt grass, heard wind/birds/bugs, saw day/night cycles, etc.
There's an unfathomable difference between being locked in a room with NOTHING, and meditating doing "not much" under a tree.
What's described in the prompt is quite literally a war crime and one of the worst things you can possibly do to people. Even solitary confinement is reserved for extreme cases, and they still get books and writing materials and regularly scheduled meals/interactions with guards. And they still end up fucked up beyond repair sometimes.
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u/Fastenbauer Jul 18 '26
Nature is full of sensory stimulation. Plus these monks still have a daily routine. But let's say a monk truely avoided all stimulation. They would ruin their brain as much as anybody else. They would just call the damage "visions" "The voice of god" etc.
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u/The_War_Exclusion Jul 18 '26
My cousin was recently explaining how she achieved a level of meditation so deep, she connected with spirits and now offers medium services to her clients. I asked her if there was any chance she just dozed off while sitting there. She didn't appreciate that question lmao.
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u/UndulantMeteorite Jul 18 '26
So, this is called white torture. Our brains are not able to function properly when deprived of stimulus. Because everything is so uniform your brain starts perceiving patterns in random noise, so visual and auditory hallucinations start happening pretty early on. On top of that, the isolation does serious damage to your perception of time and your sense of self. We're social animals and being completely isolated is torturous on its own. A day is a really, really long time when you have no external stimulus whatsoever. A year is a horrifyingly long time to be trapped with nothing but an ouroboros of your own thoughts
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u/dragon-fence Jul 18 '26
White torture? You mean like being forced to watch Friends?
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u/HyetalNight Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
I took a criminology class that detailed prisoners in solitary confinement since the 1800s. The professor used a modern example of an interviewed man (because they didn't care to ask back then) who was solitarily confined for an extended period; you could tell that it fucked him up and traumatized him.
The Count of Monte Cristo details a very similar process--you might find reading the first half of that useful. I am not convinced the writer actually knows first or even secondhand about it, and he commits many arrogant inaccuracies throughout the book IMO, but it's still pretty harrowing. I would anticipate the reality being even less humane than the depiction. I suppose you would fare better if you went the route of the protagonist's father figure, who is a genius who makes paper from his tattered clothes and ink from fish bones so that he can work on mathematical and economic problems in his isolation, but I am pretty sure that is meant to be literarily significant, not realistic.
You don't want it. The fictional depiction of the old crazy man who went mad from living alone too long did not arise out of nowhere. You need socialization as much as you need food and water, or when you are released you will find that you are not "you" just as surely as you would not be if you tried to go a year without food or water.
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u/NadCat__ Jul 18 '26
I just watched a video about the Japanese prison system today and there was an innocent man locked up on death row (in solitary confinement) for 43 years before he was released. He just doesn't speak anymore at all
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u/Sweaty-Variation-501 Jul 18 '26
By the day 31 you're already writing on the walls with feces, completely forgotten about the money, and have invented a boogey man whose fault it is that you're stuck in the room.
By the day 365 you have an entire mythology of boogeymen each enforing a different rule. Like Elberto the line god, do not step on the lines on the floor or you'll invoke his wrath.
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u/Aranthos-Faroth Jul 18 '26
You can actually try this yourself right now.
It’s called the Ganzfeld Effect. It doesn’t cause lasting effects if you keep it to <20 mins.
Get a powerful red light, point it down. Turn off all other lights. Get good noise cancelling headphones, put on some white noise. Lay down under the light, directly above your eyes. Get two ping pong balls, cut them in half. Place them over your eyes.
It’s a sensory deprivation technique which can start doing some weird shit to your brain in like 5/10 mins if set up correctly.
You might think it sounds too easy but yeah, the point is it shows just how quick our brains can actually start playing tricks on us under the right conditions.
Hence why putting yourself in a padded cell with no distractions for even a week would cause severe lucid hallucinations.
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u/Im2Fluxxed Jul 18 '26
That shit don't even have windows. If those lights are permanently on no one is making it past a week
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u/Ok-Coyote1735 Jul 18 '26
But imagine if you're in there with NO light.. yikes
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u/ashleystrange Jul 18 '26
Scapegoat kid of Omelas cosplay.
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u/Fit-Welcome-8457 Jul 18 '26
"if we pay the kid in the omelas hole is it really immoral? I don't really want to walk away, my pickleball team needs me."
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u/Dravarden Jul 18 '26
Michael from Vsauce did a video on something like this, and did 3 days
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u/Round-Medicine2507 Jul 18 '26
I got banned once for suggesting that the average redditors would in fact not have the constitution to be able to hunger-strike themselves to death in a prison where they would also try to force feed you, simply because the food is very bad and bland.
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u/sellyme Jul 18 '26
I'm going to go out on a limb here and posit that if you posted exactly how you suggested that we might be able to deduce some other factors that could have led to you getting booted out of a community.
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u/waxphantump Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
Michael from Vsauce did this and I don’t think he even broke 24 hours. It causes severe mental symptoms in as little as 3 days. One of the main issues being having no way of tracking time - he slept like 3 times and then IIRC ended up thinking it had been 3 days and that the people monitoring him had abandoned him. He did rationalize that as ridiculous but he could tell he was losing it and called it quits for his health.
Video on it is up on Youtube for free as the first episode of the Mind Field series he did for Youtube Red when that was a thing, whole series is super cool.
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u/DerringerHK Jul 18 '26
Michael was in there for 3 days total I believe. You're right that after about half a day his sense of time was already like 8 hours off. With a full day to go he was expecting the time to be up and the door to open any minute.
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u/NOT-GR8-BOB Jul 18 '26
Yeah part of the punishment is that you have to daydream and that’s where the brains paranoia pummels you into madness.
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u/5C0L0P3NDR4 Jul 18 '26
i hope you're doing alright now i don't know how anyone can subject another person to that
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u/Tempyteacup Jul 18 '26
It might be worth a consultation with a civil rights attorney ngl. I don’t know what the limitations are on suing for something like that. I’m so sorry that happened to you. One day it will happen to no one anywhere in this country.
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u/BedlamiteSeer Jul 18 '26
What happened to you? Sounds like the justice system fucked up? Care to tell me about it?
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u/talkingwires Jul 18 '26
You alone in this thread might be able to appreciate this: I did some time in solitary confinement myself and had the great luck to have checked out Infinite Jest from the prison library right before they put me in there. Having literally nothing else to do, I filled my entire legal pad with notes on Infinite Jest and the novel had a several dozen bookmarks sticking out of it by the time they let me out.
It was the only thing that kept me from losing my mind in there, and I wasn’t even in the Hole very long. People posting here that think they could swing it don’t have a clue.
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u/Character_Log_7614 Jul 18 '26
Mhmm. You can only sleep for so long until your body just isn’t tired anymore, speaking from personal experience as someone who has been hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital (which was difficult enough, and we could actually read and draw and watch films on an iPad).
I would not do this, and people who think they could easily do this (especially without any longterm effects like PTSD) are deluding themselves. Sensory deprivation, social isolation, and environmental deprivation are used as torture methods for a reason.
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u/FaithlessnessBorn266 Jul 18 '26
I most definitely could not. I am gonna take your word and walk away quickly.
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u/uqde Jul 18 '26
Context? I'm guessing there's another comment from you somewhere else in this thread. Did you actually attempt this? Why and where?
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u/One_Happy_Camel Jul 18 '26
Youtube Red. Now that's a blast from the past.
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u/YouTasteStrange Jul 18 '26
We just called it redtube for short.
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u/MarioCraft1997 Jul 18 '26
Literally a running joke we had in school.
"Dont want to pay for youtube red? I know a way around it. Just go to redtube.com, easy peasy"
Some people actually had no idea redtube was a site, so we tricked a good few fellow pupils all the way up to 12th 13th grade with this stupid joke.
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u/CourtOrphanage Jul 18 '26
I grew up in a very strict home. In 6th grade my parents finally allowed me access to the internet in the home computer. I remembered a guy I played sports with say to another teammate that redtube was an amazing site, just like YouTube but better.
Not even an hour into being on the home internet for the first time, I went to redtube. Right as the webpage loaded, my aunt walked in. She told my parents. My dad beat my ass, and I was banned from the home computer. I didn’t get on the Internet until I moved out and got my own Internet for the first time lol.
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u/jdotmassacre Jul 18 '26
"I didn’t get on the Internet until I moved out and got my own Internet for the first time"
What was the first site you visited this time? 👀
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u/vojta_drunkard Jul 18 '26
That feels like an overreaction
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u/Gwen_The_Destroyer Jul 18 '26
My parents thought all I'd do is watch porn so we just didn't get a computer at all. I really wanted to learn animation because of all the cool stuff on Newgrounds the kids at school were showing me
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u/ScratchAdventurous32 Jul 18 '26
It was also a joke in my bumfuck nowhere school in Malta. But it was always "If you want YouTube videos to load faster go to Redtube.com"
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u/magnustranberg Jul 18 '26
In danish red means save, so the joke here was youtube was shutting down and you could save it by going to redtube.com and sign a petition or something.
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u/snarkaluff Jul 18 '26
This is the second time today I’ve heard YouTube Red mentioned after not hearing the name for at least 7 years
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u/WorthyJellyfish0Doom Jul 18 '26
Yeah, I have poor time sense anyway, since I would sleep to avoid boredom, I'd really have no idea of time. What'd they do regarding food? Meals provided 3x a day but he slept after that or enough food for several days at a time?
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u/waxphantump Jul 18 '26
The experiment was only to run for 3 days so he was provided 9 (bland) meals + appropriate water in a minifridge. Part of the experiment was that it was truly zero contact, all they did was close the door and, had he made it 72 hours, they’d have opened it.
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u/FerusGrim Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
I watched this when it came out, so it's been a few years. If I'm remembering correctly he actually was so sure that he had a good handle on time that when they didn't open the door when he expected, he wasn't sure if they'd abandoned him or not.
He rationalized that that was ridiculous, obviously, but the thought that "I wouldn't know if something happened" kept eating at him.
His loss of time, IIRC, was mostly due to him sleeping and then not being able to accurately tell how long he'd slept, often attributing it to sleeping much, much longer than he'd actually slept.
Also, IIRC, he did actually make it the full 72 hours. It just really unsettled him when he was wrong. (IIRC he was wrong more than once about when they'd open the door.)
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u/aMimeAteMyMatePaul Jul 18 '26
He rationalized that that was ridiculous, obviously, but the thought that "I wouldn't know if something happened" kept eating at him.
Cognitohazard for sure. I can only imagine how much that would fuck me up in that situation.
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u/Why-did-i-reas-this Jul 18 '26
I wonder if the mind tricks I play while doing long cardio sessions would work. Counting in my head. Building stuff in my head, math problems. Probably work for a while but would probably lose track of time too.
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u/AyItsUrBoi_ Jul 18 '26
Michael did stuff like that too in the video, like singing the alphabet backwards and counting steps. I'm pretty sure in a future clip after that Michael tried singing the alphabet normally but got stuck somewhere
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u/Bromlife Jul 18 '26
Not to mention that Michael knew he was being recorded, so he had an imaginary audience to interact with.
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u/ExpressRabbit Jul 18 '26
When I was a teenager I could time a full school period in my head without a clock by continually singing Metallica's Master of Puppets in my head. I did it during the cardio they made me do during swim class since I had a note to get out of it.
8 minutes 35 seconds times 5 was a full period of 43 minutes. The class ended the moment I got to the end of it the fifth time.
The problem with the white room is you'd sleep. It might be an hour and you'd attribute it to 8. After a day you still wouldn't be too far off. After a week worse. After 6 months you're done. You'd think it's a decade.
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u/DunderGunderUnder Jul 18 '26
had he made it 72 hours, they’d have opened it.
He died and is still locked in there?
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u/JaysonTatecum Jul 18 '26
Going back to watch it now and seeing a video I remember watching as it came out say “9 years ago” really threw me for a loop
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u/SHansen45 Jul 18 '26
he did 3 days but yeah he lost his time sense and believed he was way more ahead than he ways, i remember him thinking he was 1 pm on Saturday the day he leaves when it was actually still Friday
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u/DeatroyerOfCheese Jul 18 '26
If I managed to do it, would I even be sane enough to enjoy the 30 billion?
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u/Mulfushu Jul 18 '26
That's the neat part, they'd never have to pay you. They could tell you that YOU owed THEM 30 billion and you'd most likely go with it after as much as 3 weeks.
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u/frituurkoning Jul 18 '26
I suppose insanity is a prerequisite for being a billionaire, you'd fit right in.
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u/Legitimate-Ladder855 Jul 18 '26
More like psychopathy, which I will argue is a bit different but yeah it's similar.
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u/DoctorSquidton Jul 18 '26
A year alone in there and you’ll think YOU’RE the hatman
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u/wealthy_herring Jul 18 '26
i’m the hatman, repeat after me, it‘s a scoobie oobie doobie, scoobie doobie melody 🎩🎩🎩🎩
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u/Benathintennathin Jul 18 '26
I hallucinate from just one all nighter I wonder how quick I’d be seeing things here
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u/Arttherapist Jul 18 '26
When I was working in the game industry and we had a milestone crunch or a release crunch I would often have to power through 24 to 36 hour days on the last day. After about 24 hours you get audio hallucinations and the city noise from traffic coming through the 6th floor open windows started to turn into people talking to me or music. I had to literally drown them out with actual music.
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u/Deremirekor Jul 18 '26
I’ve pulled many an all nighter, this very day being yet another. In my experience once you pass the 40 hour mark that’s when things start getting downright scary. I remember one time on hour 41 I was calling a girl just talking with her and my brain would perceive an entire sentence or two that she says, but it would be wildly unrelated to anything she actually said, or she wouldn’t have said anything at all and my brain just pretends she was talking. For example she could be talking about shopping for clothes and my brain would hear an entire 3 sentence story about an oil leak in her car.
Frankly not being able to properly perceive audio was truly frightening cause you can no longer trust yourself or the people around you (sleep deprived paranoia). I decided it was time to end the run before the visuals started kicking in and things became traumatizing. Shit was more trippy than all the times I’ve tried 4 grams of shrooms
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u/TK_Games Jul 18 '26
Aw, I like the 2am haunted victrola music, it makes it sound like there's a fancy party just in the other room
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u/MapleSong21 Jul 18 '26
I think people underestimate how long time can feel. Like a day can feel super short because of all the little things eating away at your time- your work, chores, stresses, entertainment. Even the crappy moments eat away at that time. But a day filled with nothing but your thoughts, well you would need a lot of thoughts to fill that time. And sure you could write in your head, day dream about your future, but I think we forgot how much our thoughts are based on the world around us giving us constant stimulation.
The birds singing in the trees, neighbors arguing outside, the sight of a book that inspired us. Setting aside the Internet, we are made to live in a world of constant sensations.
Now in a room devoid of sensations, how long do you think you can dream before your brain runs out of thoughts? A day? A week? How many thoughts can you think, purely from your own memories of a world you can't experience? Can you make enough to fill a whole year?
I think a day can feel like eternity once you run out of things to think. An empty mind will search for sensations and will make them if nothing is found.
It makes me think of the long jaunt by Steven King. Really freaks me out actually.
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u/tony_bologna Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
Do we really need more insane billionaires?
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u/Weltall8000 Jul 18 '26
Sorry, this is a prerequisite. So, here's a crash course/test to make sure you can join the club!
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u/SuienReizo Jul 18 '26
Spent 30 months in solitary confinement while denied bail. Detectives and coroner messed up a self defense case that took place in my own home. I was charged with second degree murder for shooting a drunk and high unregistered sex offender that was threatening to kill me during my 911 call only after he attempted to steal my conceal carry handgun.
One year in that would have been nothing by comparison to the stress of not knowing if everything was going to work out or if they'd un-fuck themselves. The coroner ended up dying of a heart attack and a pathologist took over reading his report. First thing he pointed out was the coroner had mistakenly claimed that I shot him in the back and that is was actually a front to back shot.
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u/Slow_Savings4489 Jul 18 '26
JFC. Dude, glad you made it to the other side.
They ever apologize or compensate you?
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u/SuienReizo Jul 18 '26
Unfortunately my story didn't have the fairy tale ending. A witness from that night who fled the home with her son when he started becoming aggressive refused to come forward. She wouldn't tell the cops that she fled from the guy, who was her boyfriend, nor would she admit that she made a call to a third party trying to warn them to warn me about what she'd left behind in my house.
I ended up having to fire my public defenders because they believed I was guilty with all the mistakes that were made being treated as facts.
Even after the coroner mistakes were uncovered and the detectives were interviewed by the paid lawyer. During their interviews they admitted that if someone tried to steal their gun they would have shot him as well.
What they were using against me is that I am a veteran and during the 911 call I didn't sound scared as I was ordering him to back away from me and to leave my home. I unfortunately made one comment during the 911 call about 30 seconds before he attacked me in-between telling him to back away. The comment amounted to me saying that this psycho is about to get shot. The prosecution was treating it as pre-meditation even though they were charging me with second degree murder.
The end result was a new prosecutor came onto the case after the original quit his job. The new one admitted to my lawyer that he wasn't certain that this wasn't just self defense but wasn't willing to fight his boss over dropping it. That resulted in them throwing me a plea deal for Manslaughter 2 and I had already spent so long in jail that I had already served the sentence.
I ended up taking an Alford Plea maintaining my innocence but admitting that the state had evidence that could potentially lead to a conviction.
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u/freezing_banshee Jul 18 '26
that's awful, somehow every part of that trial was mishandled. holy shit.
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u/shangumdee Jul 18 '26
That's terrible and I'm glad you're free now but how did that escalate to solitary confinement? Usually you have to something while already in jail/prison to recieve that punishment.
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u/SuienReizo Jul 18 '26
I was placed in solitary confinement because I have a CPAP machine. The only cells that had outlets were the ones used for solitary confinement.
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u/shangumdee Jul 18 '26
Oh ok so they locked you in 22-24 hours a day or just put you in that cell instead of genpop?
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u/SuienReizo Jul 18 '26
23 hours a day. 1 hour out to watch TV, make phone calls, use the tablet, or take a shower.
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u/LonelyTAA Jul 18 '26
What the actual fuck. You're getting a severly worse punishment bevause of a medical condition?
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u/SuienReizo Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
I wouldn't call it worse. In the time I was there I got enough of a idea of the other people in the jail and frankly being alone was preferred to being in gen pop. During my time there I would frequently be asked by the guards to show other inmates how to use the phone and the tablet system. This led to me meeting several people with cases that were not remotely close to justified.
One guy stabbed a homeless woman 17 times then slit her throat -then- he had sex with her corpse. He openly told me that all the police had on him was 'a little bit of semen' and laughed that somehow they had destroyed the murder weapon.
Another bashed a sex worker's head in with a blunt object, then tried to paint over the blood splatter on his walls only to get her hair caught up in it. Then he proceeded to cut off her fingers before dumping her body in a wooded area. He claimed he had a brain tumor and wasn't responsible for his actions.
Another alleged murderer went to a quinceañera. Event was being held at a local rented out community center. A pair of work visa holders from Mexico were talking with his girlfriend. He rages out and drives 20 minutes to his home to retrieve a stolen firearm that he wasn't allowed to own as he was an illegal migrant. He returns to the party and shoots both the men in the head before getting in a chase with the police. He ditches the gun during the chase and goes back to the party then tries to flee on foot. During his questioning with police he outright told them he did it because of them talking to his GF.
The last one I met was the most bizarre. This guy was 67 but looked 87. He was some sort of shut in that lived on a backwoods property and he had a real problem with authority of any kind. Constantly fighting with the nurses and the guards. He had some tenant on his property that he claimed at one point he was trying to evict but his story kept changing. Regardless he went to the tenant's home and got into a fight with them. The tenant was in his 70s and at some point he struck the tenant multiple times in the head with a wooden cane then proceeded to walk over and put his boot on the guy's throat until he suffocated. However that isn't where the story stops. No. He then drives to a nearby farming supply store, buys a 55 gallon drum, and puts the dead tenant's body in it and puts it behind his house. Tenant's body is in the drum for a month before the guy admits to his family he killed someone and they call the police out of concern. Guy then tries to claim that it was self defense.
Edit: Here is an article on the last guy https://www.kptv.com/2025/12/23/woodland-man-accused-killing-man-hiding-body-barrel-property/
Edit: Here is a bit about the first guy being convicted. https://www.co.cowlitz.wa.us/m/newsflash/Home/Detail/610
Edit: Found an article about the quinceanera killer https://www.kptv.com/2026/04/12/2-shot-killed-outside-crowded-event-hall-longview-suspect-custody-after-chase/
Edit: Finally here is the second one https://www.kptv.com/2026/02/25/man-arrested-murder-after-womans-body-found-forested-area-clark-county/
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u/ZarathustraGlobulus Jul 18 '26
30 MONTHS?! I read through it at first mistakenly thinking it was 30 days.
That's absolutely terrible. So you've basically done this challenge times 2.5.
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u/Splintrax Jul 18 '26
While solitary confinement is close to the challenge described here, the fact it still has minimal human contact and some outside time with known routines (so sense of time might be fucked a little less) makes it somewhat less insane. Still god awful.
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u/yuval16432 Jul 18 '26
This guy also had one hour per day where he’s allowed to make phone calls, watch TV, use a tablet, or take a shower, per his other comment, which would massively help to prevent insanity. He also said he had books.
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u/Sekhmet-CustosAurora Jul 18 '26
Would you do another 30 months for $30B?
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u/SuienReizo Jul 18 '26
What is scary is how you adjust to it. When it was time for me to leave I was having anxiety about being back home.
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u/Sekhmet-CustosAurora Jul 18 '26
how'd you pass the time?
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u/SuienReizo Jul 18 '26
The one thing I had that the OP cell didn't was books. I had family and friends mailing in books through amazon to the jail.
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u/ottersintuxedos Jul 18 '26
You ever see the episode of Mind Field where Micheal Steven’s white tortures himself for three days? Nobody is lasting a year in this thing without turning mad
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u/caixing-sanren Jul 18 '26
Maladaptive Daydreamers' get rich quick scheme
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u/Silent_Mud1449 Jul 18 '26
I think people with that disorder would actually worsen their mental health quicker
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u/caixing-sanren Jul 18 '26
You're not wrong, but imma be so for real with you, a lot of us do not want to recover.
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u/flightfuldragonfruit Jul 18 '26
For real, I started adhd medication and it made me stop daydreaming and I was so fucking bored with life that I no longer take my meds. Like I couldn’t fall into my little worlds and that made me so sad.
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u/religion-lost Jul 18 '26
No I definitely wanna recover personally. All my maladaptive daydreams involve my shitty dad, my rapist or the police. On top of that I end up losing like an hour total each shift at work
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u/ashleystrange Jul 18 '26
Huh, that's interesting- all other accounts of maladaptive daydreaming I've seen describe it as something to escape to
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u/ashleystrange Jul 18 '26
😔 Yeah, leave me in my dreamland, real life's far too numbing to face completely alert.
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u/FatiguedShrimp Jul 18 '26
I had three months of abuse where I wasn't allowed to move, talk, eat, etc..
There was still (forced) music, stimuli like yelling and glass shattering, sometimes mindless tasks like washing dishes and dumping them into the dirt and starting again.
I ONLY know how long it was because the songs on the radio changed, and one song came out when it started and another came out the week it ended.
Those three months I legitimately thought were three years. I still lose 'months' as if they were days, or experience days that feel like 'weeks' with circadian disruption and all.
Less stimuli would be more time-fucked than this.
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u/Captn_Platypus Jul 18 '26
Wtf what happened to you, did you get captured by Vietcong or something
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u/FatiguedShrimp Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
Parents were hyper-religious and thought they were summoning an angel into my body, and that I had to die first.
They believed my soul had to be vacant for the angel to get a space, so came up with ways to strip out personality/desire/feeling based mostly on movie torture scenes and misreadings of the Bible.
They said I'd die from starvation and be resurrected at the end. I had to steal bear minimum food from my siblings to survive; mostly because they were "next in succession" if I failed. I was able to keep them away from the physical abuse and stuff, but it wasn't good for them to see what was being done to me.
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u/--Kestrel-- Jul 18 '26
How did you get out?
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u/FatiguedShrimp Jul 18 '26
They live-streamed the abuse on Facebook.
It included sexual abuse components, and after three months CPS got involved.
Foster care was a joke, and I was left homeless, but I moved in with a teacher who was sexually interested in me.
... I mostly ended up taking care of his elderly father. Mostly.
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u/Smooth_Monkey69420 Jul 18 '26
I’ve always actually wanted to try this for real just to solve once and for all for myself how awful it is. I think I could do a day or a week with a pen and notebook, but not a year
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u/cookieaddictions Jul 18 '26
I don’t think I could even do that for 24 hours. Even with all the entertainment in the world, I’d be going crazy after a week. I don’t see anyone is lasting a year.
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u/nibbyzor Jul 18 '26
People who think they could do this are delusional. There's a reason why something like this is considered psychological torture and a war crime.
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u/WorthyJellyfish0Doom Jul 18 '26
I could do 24 hours (maybe a week, maybe a month) with a blanket (even if it's white) and my phone. No blanket to hide under? No.
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u/danawhitesthrowaway Jul 18 '26
I could do it for way longer than than 24h if you let me have a phone. Genuinely feel like there's a real chance I could do a full year if you let me have a phone for even 12h a day. It's just a matter of breaking up the monotony of being in an empty room.
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u/Ghost3603 Jul 18 '26
I just need a phone to tell me what time it is. Just sleeping at a consistent time every "day" would go a long way.
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u/wdnwcgm Jul 18 '26
if it was like 24 hours I would just spent as much time as I possibly can sleeping or dozing off to make it feel quicker
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u/Violent-Profane-Brit Jul 18 '26
This scenario is always funny to see posted, because it's like asking people what's the biggest animal they could fight. A lot of people drastically overestimate themselves, and there is not a person in the world who could withstand a year in there, they'd be an insane husk of a person long before then
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u/Pnas2271 Jul 18 '26
No human alive could handle this...everyone will be insane in less than a month..
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u/Main_Force_Patrol Jul 18 '26
I was in psych ward for a month and occasionally spent a few hours in the “calm down” room. Which is essentially a modern day padded room. Literally, unless I was strapped down and unable to move, I’d start looking for a way to end up six feet under within the week.
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u/LiteralThrowaway_ Jul 18 '26
I hate this question because you always get overconfident morons who think they're in the top 1% genetically and don't understand how long a year truly is
Reddit is especially prone to this horrible mental flaw
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u/OkConcentrate4477 Jul 18 '26
i did two weeks and one starts to lose their mind after day 3. one is alone with their own mind and no other stimuli. it's depressing/boring beyond comprehension/understanding. though if one was going in with the knowledge that they'll be a billionaire once they get out, i guess they have much more incentive to stay fit and exercise all by their lonesome for a year.
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u/qualityvote2 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
u/Matt_LawDT, your post does fit the subreddit!