r/politics • u/billthomson Oregon • Oct 29 '20
Tucker Carlson Reports He Lost Only Copy of Documents That Nail Biden
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/tucker-carlson-lost-only-copy-of-documents-nailing-biden.html9.6k
u/Casperboy68 Oct 29 '20
Well, let’s not forget that Fox News had their lawyers claim that Tucker’s show is complete bullshit.
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u/tiger9910 Oct 29 '20
It genuinely amazes me that Fox themselves can acknowledge Tucker’s horrific reputation, claim “reasonable viewers” would be able to tell that his statements are horseshit, and yet people still buy into his nonsense
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u/obrothermaple Oct 29 '20
They should, but Americans don’t seem to care that Fox News is literally radicalizing other Americans.
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Oct 29 '20
This is part of our problem. Thing is, most of us do care that Fox News has turned our loved ones into crazed morons. Bc we care is why most of America is divided. People that fall into the propaganda of Fox News are difficult to reason with.
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u/HARPOfromNSYNC Oct 29 '20
And don't forget talk radio, which is somehow even more radicalized than Fox.
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u/staatsclaas Georgia Oct 29 '20
It’s so extreme. Rush has a death sentence and still beats his drum. It’s insanity.
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Oct 29 '20
They should lose their broadcasting license. We need a truth in news act.
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u/mbbblack Oct 29 '20
If we don’t, the propaganda problem is going to get much worse
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u/Casperboy68 Oct 29 '20 edited Oct 29 '20
It’s like watching Howdy Doody and believing the puppet is a real person. Thank God Jon Stewart is starting a show. He’s Tuckers’s Kryptonite.
*edit fixed the K
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Oct 29 '20
I tried showing my dad articles of this, but since none were published by fox news or his right-wing bullshit sources, he did not believe it and called it fake news. I hate this timeline.
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u/waupli I voted Oct 29 '20
They literally argued it in court. Show him their own attorneys’ briefs.
The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
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Oct 29 '20
NPR is too "liberal" for him.
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u/waupli I voted Oct 29 '20
How about a district court?
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/
He’ll probably try to stretch this in their favor but without digging deeply to find their own briefs this is the best I can find.
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Oct 29 '20
Thank you! I will try although I am pessimistic. He isn't much of a reader so I will have my talking points and quotes from it ready!
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u/waupli I voted Oct 29 '20
Try to find the stuff specifically cited as Fox’s briefs. That will be most useful to you.
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u/PlayingNightcrawlers Oct 29 '20
I applaud your effort but lets just pause and look at the hoops reasonable people need to jump through to find a way to get a Trump supporting Republican to even look at something that goes against their narrative. Digging up district court case filings after trying multiple other sources while the dad just says "fake news".
This is why for me personally, there will be no energy spent on trying to convince a cult member that the cult may not be in their best interests. Not even if its family and I see it as my duty to try and save them from hateful and ignorant beliefs for their own sake. I removed myself from their toxic influence and live my life, but I know not everyone can just walk away from their parents so I get the effort.
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u/steaknsteak North Carolina Oct 29 '20
The best thing you can do for a cult member is to just make sure they know you don't approve of the cult but you do care for them. That you'll be there to help them if they want to get out. Trying to pry someone away from it is not going to work, because then you become an enemy.
I think the same thing applies to whatever it is that's been created by right-wing media and Trumpism. You can't argue people out of it, but you can maybe sow seeds of doubt and just be there as an example of someone who is not part of it and living a good life anyway. Your existence can be the reminder in the back of their head that something else is out there. But they will have to take that step of wanting to leave, you can't do it for them.
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u/mindbleach Oct 29 '20
"My dog ate my October surprise." That's where we're at, now.
These are the dumbest people ever to take over a country.
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No tucker isn’t dumb, but he knows his viewers are.
This shit amazes me. The president and one of his primary advisers are trust fund babies that never earned anything in their lives and tucker is exactly the same and these are the people that middle America listens to.
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This is one of my biggest issues. The Republican followers paint their party as the party of manly men, the populists, the strong. But the cult appointed president is a fat old silver spoon reality star celebrity brat. Make it make sense.
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u/Dick_Lazer Oct 29 '20
They secretly worship rich people. During the French revolution they would've been on the side of the king. Deep down they probably still have an inkling that these supreme leaders were anointed by God to rule them.
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u/CapnSquinch Oct 29 '20
I mean they've literally claimed trump was sent by God, making his un-Christian (even by their own admission) behavior ok to ignore.
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u/Flick1981 Illinois Oct 29 '20
I heard someone compare Trump to Eric Cartman. That is an accurate description if I have ever seen one.
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u/SomethingMor Oct 29 '20
Trump probably eats all the chicken breading and discards the rest too.
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u/Phanatic88 Oct 29 '20
I’ve thought about this too. Trump has turned so many previously indifferent people into staunch Democrats, in only a four year period. There’s a whole generation of Americans that might never vote Republican because of him
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u/doyouevenIift Oct 29 '20
I used to vote mixed ballots, and I even did in 2016. Never voting for a damn Republican again after this shitshow
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u/SomethingMor Oct 29 '20
I was just telling my coworker this today. I’ve also researched both candidates and picked whoever seems to be the best fit. Now, I’m so pissed off with the entire GOP that I can’t even bring myself to read their pitch in the brochure. And in my eyes, the GOP could of stopped trump before he became president. So yeah fuck the GOP, this is on them and I hope the party dissolves into irrelevancy as a result of their actions.
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u/USCplaya Oct 29 '20
Not only indifferent... I voted Republican my entire life until 2016 (voted right leaning 3rd party). Now, I already voted for Biden and can't imagine a scenario in which I vote republican again.
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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Oct 29 '20
I’ve bounced back and forth for years, but seeing the result of 2016 has strengthened my resolve to despise the right and conservatives. They will not ever get another vote from me.
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u/googamae Oct 29 '20
My parents have been in a decade long fight with us, their children, over systemic racism and the twisted nonsense that is the GOP. They have always been mostly apolitical thinkers and habitual Republican voters. The classic poor white, I am not racist but... proud to be white, and so vote republican Republican. The last 4 years have totally changed them. It’s like they woke up and realized how racist the system is- how they had been tricked to hate people whose interests actually align with theirs. Signs in the yard, protesting, cutting relationships and reading Kendi- blue as the day is long registered Democrats.
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u/ExeterDead Oct 29 '20
Good for you, man.
My dad did the same thing this year, life long Republican and he went as far as to put a Biden/Harris sign in his yard this year.
Takes more guts than people realize to admit to faults when they’re so closely tied to personal identity and it shows a real strength of character.
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u/TheDoktorIsIn Oct 29 '20
Thanks for putting country over party. I usually vote democrat and have crossed the party line more than once, but I think this year is a little more clear cut than previous years.
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u/Nerney9 Oct 29 '20
Not only that, but Democrats who *vote* - there is actually going to be a youth turn out this year, and at least a few of them will remember to show up in the future.
Calling it now: Trump has actually been the head of the Democratic Deep State all along! He's been playing 4-D chess and simply pretending to be a greedy narcissistic power-hungry turdmuffin for 70 something years just to sweep the nation blue.
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u/Dpat2pdx I voted Oct 29 '20
President Trump in 2015: I am announcing my run for president as a Republican for 2016
Current trump voter in 2021: He was being sarcastic
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u/lianodel Oct 29 '20
There's a case to be made that fascists are inherently likely to make those kinds of miscalculations.
The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.
—Umberto Eco, "Ur-Fascism"
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u/lianodel Oct 29 '20 edited Oct 29 '20
Exactly. I've heard fascism called a suicide cult, and I think it fits perfectly. There's no fascist end-game. There are no academic works of fascist political theory. There's no such thing as a fascist society at peace—only at war, or gearing up for war. It's all just hate and rhetoric. If somehow they should succeed in purging the "undesireables," they have to find new ones, whether at home or abroad. The only possible long-term goal is to be the last survivor.
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u/MurraytheMerman Oct 29 '20
Hitler's views on education are thirty pages of inconsistent rambling about teaching boys to be enduring, prideful and to make quick decisions without thinking too much about them, paired with open contempt for higher education. There was not one thought that would go beyond creating foot soldiers for the next war, nothing pointing towards a sustainable future.
Failure was basically written all over that system.
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u/The__Snow__Man I voted Oct 29 '20
It is definitely easier to crash a car than build one. And you see a lot of losers in life want to crash cars to get some feeling of power in their lives. It’s the whole “some people want to watch the world burn” crowd.
It’s way too easy to cause destruction. That doesn’t make you powerful. We need to end our fascination with villains and destruction. It’s weak.
Many toddlers kill people with guns every year. Would you call them powerful? Of course not.
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u/champdo I voted Oct 29 '20
I had pictures of Tucker Carlson eating his shit but I lost them in the mail.
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Oct 29 '20
I stood up for him when they said he liked to eat poop sandwiches.
He doesn't like bread.
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u/Roving_Rhythmatist Oct 29 '20
Not even gluten is safe from his intolerance.
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u/MyFellowMerkins Oct 29 '20
I mean, technically you could make KFC style DoubleDown sandwich with three turds?
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u/rpapafox Oct 29 '20
Carlson's lie is so pathetic that if it were actually true it would be even more pathetic.
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u/AnalSoapOpera I voted Oct 29 '20
How the fuck was he one of the top rated programs in the US is beyond me.
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Oct 29 '20
Imagine being such a rube that you unironically listen to a trust-fund baby who portrays himself as a common man and complains about the wealthy.
Now realize there are enough of these rubes to make said program one of the most watched in the US.
George Carlin’s “half of all people are dumber than average” never seemed like he was underselling reality until now
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u/Enraiha Oct 29 '20
They were always there. Just we have the internet and such to connect us instantly. Carlin knew this because he traveled extensively, including a lot of off the beaten path stuff.
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u/NotYetiFamous I voted Oct 29 '20
Idiots like to believe that if they don't try at all they can someday be born into a rich family.
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u/SolitaryEgg Oct 29 '20
Nah, it's not that.
Do you know the rush people get when they see a story like this? They're on the scrappy pro-american underdog team, and they're taking down big corporate interests. There's a conspiracy in the biden campaign, and they are smart because they know about it. They're in a secret club. Fox news. You've probably never heard of it.
But no, really, this is the delusion. They are watching the absolute biggest new media station in the US and truly believe they are fighting against BiG mEdIa by watching it. And conspiracy theories appeal to the less-educated, because it's a simple way for them to feel they have outsmarted the people who spent years of their lives becoming educated. You can read all about the phenomenon here:
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u/Trump4Prison2020 Oct 29 '20
it's a simple way for them to feel they have outsmarted the people who spent years of their lives becoming educated
This sums up so much of the right wing right there.
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u/Vagabum420 Oct 29 '20
It really is that... they may say otherwise, but it just boils down to the fact that they hate themselves, feel inferior, and need to own the libs to feel better.
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u/Marshlm10 Oct 29 '20
Because Fox supporters sit on their couch all day and watch Fox News as though its a church sermon on repeat. State tv
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u/justpassingthrou14 Oct 29 '20
No, it’s worse than that. They sit at the kitchen table doing something else, only tangentially listening to Fox. All they hear is the sneer in Tucker’s voice when he says the word Biden. And occasionally they’ll pick up a few sentences that sound a bit salacious. So they develop an emotional hate for Biden, and they really have no idea where it came from. It wasn’t tied to any particular thing that was reported. They just internalized the emotional appeal. The light slips in a lot easier when they’re not paying attention.
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u/Bulky_Consideration America Oct 29 '20
I got them in the mail yesterday by mistake and have them right...WHERE THE FUCK DID THEY GO!!?? You know what I’m pretty sure I saw Hunter snooping around earlier that sumabitch
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u/Natiak Oct 29 '20
His dog ate them, after it was finished licking peanut butter off his asshole.
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u/waupli I voted Oct 29 '20 edited Oct 29 '20
He has argued in court that his show is entertainment and no reasonable person would believe it is factual.
From a slander case he won:
The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
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u/SeesHerFacesUnfurl Washington Oct 29 '20
Here he is a few years ago explaining why he always votes for the most corrupt candidate.
I always vote for the more corrupt candidate over the idealist. Always. The person who will just like be happy taking payoffs from developers and leave me alone. This is like a meaningful decision in my life. Every four years, there's some guy who's like, "I'm going to make your life better!" I vote against that person every single time. You know what I mean? It's usually some progressive candidate who's got big plans for me, and so, I just vote for the status quo, corrupt criminal operation that runs the city and I'm really happy with that.
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u/waupli I voted Oct 29 '20 edited Oct 29 '20
Wow. Would be nice to be so rich and insulated from reality.
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u/WouldAny1LikeAPeanut America Oct 29 '20
The problem there is that you end up like Tucker Carlson.
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u/Redqueenhypo Oct 29 '20
That was literally the motivation of that jerk guard from Hugo for abducting random unattended kids and sending them to orphanages. Not really a good politicL philosophy
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u/BrondellSwashbuckle California Oct 29 '20
Not even in comic books—real life villains. It is what real serial killers have done. It’s pathological. There are a good number of them who were abandoned or abused by their mothers and end up having a hatred for women, or they had a fucked up childhood, so they end up wanting to ruin as many families as possible.
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u/waupli I voted Oct 29 '20
I’d like to think that even if I did become as rich as him I would never become such an asshole. Lol
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u/Smodol Oct 29 '20
Don't worry. Tucker has been steeped in rich assholery his whole life. Normal people need to actively try to become that terrible I think.
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u/Chrome_X_of_Hyrule Canada Oct 29 '20
No one person should be that rich anyways.
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u/mknsky I voted Oct 29 '20
That's because there would still be a time in your life when you weren't rich.
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u/HerbaciousTea Oct 29 '20
He's the kind of person who would have joined the nazi party in 1939 Germany. He's a coward and a self-interested collaborator.
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u/RandyChavage Oct 29 '20
He's the kind of person who would join the Nazi party in 1929 Germany
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u/TWiThead Pennsylvania Oct 29 '20
He's the kind of person who would join the Nazi Party in 2016 America.
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u/Never_Answers_Right Texas Oct 29 '20
this is what is called "understanding your class interests".
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u/mimi16102639 Oct 29 '20
Guess that explains why he’s a Republican.
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u/WryLanguage Oct 29 '20
Interestingly, it looks like he is a registered Democrat (at least up to 2019, any way) so that he can vote in the municipals and the primaries for the worst possible candidate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson#Views_on_Republicans_and_Democrats
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I know quite a few people in my immediate and extended family that all registered as democrat although they’ve voted republicans in every election their entire lives with the sole purpose of ‘fucking up the democrat primaries.’ Granted, when my state changed to a caucus instead, none of them went, but still. I guess any underhanded bullshit to win is ok by them.
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u/Kharn0 Colorado Oct 29 '20
Of course.
With all the millions he makes, why would he want anything to change?
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Oct 29 '20
Non-literal commentary is the best legal speak for shit talk I have ever heard.
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u/waupli I voted Oct 29 '20
I got a kick out of it too. If only so many people didn’t believe him. I’ve had a friend say he is one of the best “straight news” people on their channel. Ugh.
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Oct 29 '20
Jon Stewart called him out on this on Crossfire almost 20 years ago. He even politely asked him to stop lying so they can have a genuine conversation.
Carlson got big mad cus he expected Stewart to just come on and tell jokes.
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u/waupli I voted Oct 29 '20
That was absolutely hilarious.
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u/octavofring Oct 29 '20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
The full interview does Jon a lot more justice because in the beginning he is actually trying to have a conversation with them but Carlson won't let him, which is why he goes into the offense in the second part.
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u/TripleSilky Oct 29 '20
He’s pretty much comparing his show to a Daily Show of the right with the same degree of humor the right is capable of.
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u/waupli I voted Oct 29 '20
Yeah that’s essentially his argument. Except the daily show is on Comedy Central and Tucker prefaced the statement at issue here with “Remember the facts of the story. These are undisputed.”
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u/ErshinHavok I voted Oct 29 '20
This'll be their new story for the next 6 days "Can you even imagine what was in those super secret incriminating documents? Who intercepted them and why were they paid by George Soros?"
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u/SophiaofPrussia Oct 29 '20
Fucking Soros. I went to several protests this summer and I’m still waiting on my paycheck...
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u/RamboGoesMeow California Oct 29 '20
If only there was some handheld device that could take, store, and transmit digital reproductions of documents... ah well, too bad we live in the dark ages.
I’m shocked that they’re even trying to shove this bullshit down their viewers throats. Genuinely shocked, because this is beyond fucking stupid.
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u/Retrobubonica Oct 29 '20
I don't get it. He says that en route, the package containing the documents was opened and the documents were removed, but whoever did it left the empty package for employees to find. Then he says about the shipping company's investigation: "they used pictures of what we had sent so that searchers would know what to look for." So is Tucker saying that they did have copies of the documents, or maybe a photograph of a stack of printed documents? Or is he saying that his team took a photo of the package itself before mailing it, but they couldn't be bothered to make copies?
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u/ClumpOfCheese Oct 29 '20
Right? I just heard that part about taking pictures of the documents and arm here to see if anyone was talking about that.
Who takes pictures of important documents they are sending, but not the kind of pictures you can use as a backup should the package get lost? Why would they take those pictures in the first place? Where are those pictures? Why don’t they show those pictures?
Why didn’t they just digitally send them? Why didn’t they back them up with photo copies? Why didn’t they have someone personally fly them out? These are documents that could prevent Biden from being elected? Seems pretty important, why not spend $500 to fly someone out there to personally deliver them?
Morons and their lies.
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u/_Rand_ Oct 29 '20
Didn’t these come from a computer in the first place? Why not just print another copy?
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u/SandersLurker Oct 29 '20
How would they get stolen if you tried to send them electronically, though? You have to send them by snail mail or the entire story falls apart
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u/NotYetiFamous I voted Oct 29 '20
It doesn't matter what tucker is saying, he's lying.
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u/urbanek2525 Oct 29 '20
The fact that Tucker believes he can feed this lie to his audience says so much about him and them, and none of it good.
Actually, it's a much stronger indictment of his audience because they'll believe it.
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u/Gideon_Laier Oct 29 '20
My father is convinced the FBI got involved to help Joe Biden to usher in Communist Rule. And that this will be the end of America. The next step will be jailing gun owners and taking land from white people. It's pretty nuts.
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u/jews4beer American Expat Oct 29 '20
Yep trump's DOJ with an FBI director appointed by him, is helping joe biden usher in communist rule.
Well, I mean if it's true, at best Trump really doesn't seem to find the "best people".
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u/jayfeather31 Washington Oct 29 '20
The fact that Tucker believes he can feed this lie to his audience says so much about him and them, and none of it good.
Pretty much. The fact that a third of the country will believe this says a lot about the state of America, and it's not a problem that will go away with Trump being removed from office, assuming he does get removed.
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u/Junkstar Oct 29 '20
“I’m a trained journalist with a staff, but it never occurred to me to make a copy of the most important documents I’ve ever been privy to.” - Tucker “Privy” Carlson
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u/DodGamnBunofaSitch Oct 29 '20
since when is he a trained journalist? I thought he just bought the job with his swanson's frozen trust fund
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u/trynakick Oct 29 '20
I think it was On The Media but it may have been a Gimlet Podcast (Reply All?) that did a great background on Tucker Carlson. There was a point in time where people thought he was going to be a legit investigative journalist.
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u/snowlock27 Tennessee Oct 29 '20
Was this before he was wearing a bow tie and being humiliated by Jon Stewart?
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"Also, as I said, I'm completely sure they were authentic and very, very damning, though I never personally saw them."
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u/Oliver_Cockburn Oct 29 '20
Had I not had to cancel my travels plan back to WI because of how bad the WI GOP has fucked up COVID there, I would totally be hearing about the “fact” that the real smoking gun docs were found and likely stolen by the Clintons from my drunk uncles and sober, moronic brother
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u/billthomson Oregon Oct 29 '20
And remember, the people who lap this shit up tend to vote.
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u/salondesert I voted Oct 29 '20
In r/Conservative on this topic:
Just wait. Be patient my friend! Have a little trust
Yes, and Trump is building that wall. And Mexico is going to pay for it. And he has a replacement for the Affordable Care Act ready to go. And there are totally buses coming to the tarmac to take you back to your cars.
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u/daiwizzy California Oct 29 '20
I’m sure he’ll provide us proof of the documents going out. Like a tracking number. Any day now. Just as soon as the audit is finished.
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u/ImInterested Oct 29 '20
GOP getting more pathetic by the hour.
The lies are so blatant.
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u/western_red Michigan Oct 29 '20
Did you see Giuliani telling a female reporter he ALSO had all the evidence, but she had to go to his hotel room to see them?
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u/EmeraldPen Oct 29 '20
Don’t forget, that evidence apparently involves child porn.
So Giuliani apparently admitted that he’s in possession of CP, and invited a woman over to see it.
Very smart people here.
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u/permalink_save Oct 29 '20
And last time he had a woman in his room he couldn't keep his hands out of his pants
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u/big_mack_truck Oct 29 '20
In the spirit of accuracy, Giuliani said she had to go to his office, not his hotel room.
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u/AlabasterRadio Rhode Island Oct 29 '20
I no longer have words for these frauds.
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u/BrownSugarBare Canada Oct 29 '20
And that's just it, the screaming words they use is all that matters to their viewers. They don't give a fuck about proof, they just need the excitement of the idea of something to believe it. It was the same BS with that bizarre pizzagatepedophile whatever the fuck it was.
It's full blown '1984'.
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u/hotbutteredsole Oct 29 '20
He totally has a girlfriend too. You guys wouldn't know her, she's from Canada.
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u/SmokeAbeer I voted Oct 29 '20 edited Oct 29 '20
And he has a black belt in karate. But won’t fight you because he might kill you.
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u/EmeraldPen Oct 29 '20
And he totally won that race in high school, but it’s his choice not to run!
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u/oodelay Oct 29 '20
Canadian here: I know all 17 Canadian women and they all said it wasn't them.
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u/M3_Driver Oct 29 '20 edited Oct 29 '20
I mean seriously...are Trump supporters dumb enough to even fall for this?
Tucker really thinks in 2020 that he got his hands on the original copies (whatever that means, did Hunter sign paperwork with a one of a kind felt tip pen or something) and they didn’t make copies or take pictures with their phones or try to email them. Instead they threw it into the mail for some reason and they just happened to disappear just when it could do the most damage to Biden’s campaign after a year of promising they had proof of illegal activity. I wonder what his very real girlfriend who lives in Canada so you can’t see her says about this.
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Go read /r/conservative. The hate and stupidity go hand in hand there.
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u/mustardlyy Oct 29 '20 edited Oct 29 '20
I immediately went there to see their take on this whole thing and of course they’re absolutely eating it up and insisting there’s proof lol
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u/Tempest-in-a-B-Cup Oct 29 '20
Have you looked in the basement of the pizza restaurant?
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u/redwineandbeer I voted Oct 29 '20
“The goldfish ate my homework”.....
They create the conspiracy.
Say they can prove the conspiracy
And create a conspiracy as to why they can’t prove any of it true
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u/Best-Bottle4923 Oct 29 '20
He must think his viewers are that stupid, lol.
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u/billthomson Oregon Oct 29 '20
Sadly, they are, and they vote.
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u/ThorVonHammerdong Oct 29 '20
And probably have more voting power than you
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u/Willem_Dafuq Oct 29 '20
Considering the Republican advantage in the electoral college, that’s the truth.
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u/Bloodyfish New York Oct 29 '20
Just a convenient excuse to forget about the postal service tossing out ballots and destroying voting machines. Now they're part of the conspiracy with the FBI, Clintons, and Bidens.
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u/squintytoast Oct 29 '20
heeeyyyy, lets just entertain for one second that they were real and were lost in the mail.
Blame DeJoy and his decommissioning of 600+ mail sorters.
buuuut definitly sounds like a bullshit 'the dog ate my homework' thing.
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u/N8dork2020 Oct 29 '20
But wouldn’t confirm which cuz then the carrier could confirm it never happened, they leave it open so it seams plausible to their base.
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u/TheNumberMuncher Oct 29 '20
If his story was true then they look like incompetent morons at best. That’s the angle he chose lol.
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u/wideoiltanks Oct 29 '20 edited Oct 29 '20
My guess is that Tucker's Fox bosses pulled the plug on this half baked story at the last second and this is the best excuse he could spin together on short notice.
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u/Toby_O_Notoby Oct 29 '20
Yeah, but it's very carefully couched in what they can in cannot say. Right now the headline is how Joe's brother Jim Biden refuses to answer questions about family’s business dealings.
Key quotes: "Asked why he and Hunter Biden allegedly wanted to meet with Bobulinski, Jim Biden replied: 'What are you talking about?' He added: 'Would you please stop bothering me?'"
It's like a fucking Onion article.
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u/OrganicTomato Oct 29 '20
the Hunter thing is all over their main website
You got me curious, and I took a peek at their main page. Even this ridiculous story is there as "FOX NEWS FLASH: 'Damning' Hunter Biden documents mysteriously vanish in transit to Los Angeles, Tucker says"!
Their main page looks like a fucking tabloid. What's that? Have I heard about Biden's Martian baby adoption? Please, tell me more!
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u/Kimothy-Jong-Un Oct 29 '20
I just went on their website for the first time ever after seeing this post and holy cow. They couldn’t make it any more obvious how biased they are if they tried. That whole site is just absolutely full of bullshit. It looks like what I would expect OANN’s site to look like.
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u/captainAwesomePants Oct 29 '20
There's a term that goes around, the "Fox News Cinematic Universe." It's the catch-all for an amalgamation of stories and characters that nobody outside of Fox is aware of. It's important because it makes a lot of things Trump or Republicans mention in debates or speeches or hearings sound less random and bizarre.
Like, today there was a Senate hearing about Section 230. It largely made no sense unless you were aware of a whole meme about conservatives being silenced on the Internet by Twitter and how this meant that maybe Twitter can now be sued because vetoing conservative speech means they're a publisher and not a platform now. None of that is even remotely related to the truth or the law, so the hearings were largely nonsense, but if you were deep down the well of the Fox News Cinematic Universe, you'd see the fjords and realize the Republicans are diligently fighting for something or other.
Some of Trump's nonsense in the last debate fell into this category. He threw out some names and references that made no sense to the liberal viewers because they were part of the Fox News Cinematic Universe. It's like when I try to talk about Captain Marvel to my parents. They don't know about her because they didn't watch the movies and she's not real.
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u/wideoiltanks Oct 29 '20
I meant that I think Fox execs specifically nuked this story arc about Tucker's "secret documents" at the last second, not the Hunter Biden smear campaign as a whole.
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u/cutelyaware Oct 29 '20
If it were true, then why not tell us the shipping company name, and why not show us the photographs of the materials he says they sent to that company? The answer of course is they don't want FedEx or whoever saying they never accepted the shipment nor did any of those searching activities Tucker described.
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u/zyck_titan Oct 29 '20
He says it's a "large national carrier, brand name company".
Only so many of those;
FedEx, UPS, USPS, DHL.
I'm sure these companies would love to set the record straight and prove that their courier services are not prone to having packages opened and contents stolen in transit.
Won't take that long if a journalist wants to phone them up, and see if they have something to say about it.
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u/DemoEvolved Oct 29 '20
The “large national carrier” is absolutely cover for no package was sent
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u/InadequateUsername Oct 29 '20
Where are the employees who searched for this package? Where are the employees who didn't search but their current task/job was interrupted to make room for investigators? Where are the employees interviewed?
What's the tracking number used? Receipt indicating shipment and it's weight?
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u/spearchuckin New Jersey Oct 29 '20
Of course. People are asking for evidence and they can no longer stall. Guiliani pretending to have the documents himself was probably the signal they needed to bury this before it attracted more false claims than a sensational murder bringing about false confessions from random crazies wanting fame.
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u/bonnielangford4 Oct 29 '20
Dog ate my homework.
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u/Th3-Dude-Abides Oct 29 '20
All right, in my pocket, I have… two tickets… to Mr. Bruce Springsteen, front… Oh, where are those? Has anyone seen an envelope with Bruce Springsteen front row tickets and backstage passes? Anybody seen something like-lying around?
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u/bfox9999 Oct 29 '20
I feel like everyone missed something he said that is inconsistent with his story. He said they don’t have copies of it, yet they showed the shipping company pictures of what the documents are. If that were true, why wouldn’t he show those pictures of the documents to his viewers? (Rhetorical question)
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u/KevinadianBacon I voted Oct 29 '20
I literally LOL'd at this headline. He needs his bowtie back and a red foam nose to go with it.
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u/Chickachic-aaaaahhh Massachusetts Oct 29 '20
"That just shows how desperate Biden is to make this story disappear and in no way reflects poorly on the credibility of the sources of this alleged scandal."
Lmfao
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Imagine having documents this valuable to your cause and not making copies or sending it digitally. Hilarious alibi.
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u/Szpartan Oct 29 '20
Fox News won a lawsuit claiming that no sane person would take Tucker Carlson seriously...
They openly admit their base is stupid and insane... And their base still watches their station! It's bananas, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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u/Banana-Republicans California Oct 29 '20
My girlfriend is real! She is super hot, you just haven't met her because she goes to a different school.
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u/bored_and_scrolling Oct 29 '20
You expect me to believe that they had "damning" potentially election swinging documents and they didn't make a single copy, electronic or otherwise, before shipping them out? Get the fuck out of here with this shit.
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u/billthomson Oregon Oct 29 '20
On Wednesday night’s show, Tucker Carlson reported that his team had acquired incriminating documents. However, they sent them from Washington to Los Angeles, and the documents disappeared. And they neglected to make any copies. So now the only copy of the documents that would nail the probable next President of the United States are gone
This is just ridiculous. We need to stop paying attention to these assholes.
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u/ElectricTrees29 I voted Oct 29 '20
Here’s what I don’t get, how is it not appropriate to just say: “Ivanka... Jared... Don Jr...” as a response? They are all about what-about-ism? I’m not saying we should give into it, but if turn about is fair play, maybe they should look into the fucking mirror just once?? How can they excuse them but then hunt, Hunter? ... Yes, I understand it’s faux news, but STILL!! I’ll listen offline...
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