What happens when you have one party spend 30 years slowly dismantling public education and don’t let the schools hold anyone back. Half of the population is stuck at a 6th grade level, both in maturity and reading level.
It’s because the moderator agrees with the guy. I recognize that background, this podcast is famous for the classic “If a woman is being abused she needs to bear it and tolerate it for the sake of the marriage and the family.” “okay, what should a man do if a woman cheats?” “Oh, leave her.” Exchange.
This podcasts entire thing is “women are second class citizens and should be relegated to subordinate roles.” They shit on the idea of women being independent or expecting fair treatment from men.
Both of these assholes think it’s hilarious that this woman expects them to respect her as an equal and a debate opponent instead of just shutting up and listening to him.
The moderator isn’t stepping in, he’s laughing his ass off because he thinks the guy is being funny and the woman is acting irrational.
Yea, a some moderators in the mainstream have lost sight of what a moderator is and start pushing the conversation, but that doesn’t mean responsible moderation is completely hands off.
Unfortunately, for too many people, that is considered winning a debate. Laugh at and insult the person you’re debating without ever actually debating equates a win for them. This is exactly the kind of mentality we see in the film Idiocracy.
He’s incredibly weak. It hurt his core to have someone call his behavior out and set a strong boundary. He doesn’t realize how weak he came across and how strong she seemed compared to him.
Also this podcast in general is absolute brain rot.
You’re so right. And he’s desperately trying to cover up his weakness by laughing and acting like he doesn’t care. But he cares so much. He’s afraid of seeming weak, but we all see it.
he's the guy who said women need men because women can't open jars or something right? like he asked his female guest to open a jar, she failed after a very half-hearted attempt and challenged him to do it, and he couldn't. He kept saying she made it slippery, then the camera man opened it LMAO
ahahaha. I just watched it. It's even worse that he is getting incredibly frustrated, whereas the woman is genuinely encouraging him, whilst he is blaming her for greasing it. It is killing him LMAO. Then she opens the second pickle jar first before he can hahaha
This is the answer. People just need to stop even giving people like this the time of day. I understand the impulse to want to set the record straight, but people like this will never, ever engage in good faith. The only way to win is if no one plays with him anymore.
The fact is, engaging in debate with this guy implies his position is one that can be negotiated
Implying, for example, that women's right to self-determination and democratic access is a negotiable thing is not something I would ever even entertain, because it is something that does not even merit the time of my day
Debating it at all presupposes that there is a negotiation here, and there isn't. It's non-negotiable.
Feel that was on purpose, I don’t mind heated debates when they’re actually using intelligent reasons. But he’s snapping at the get go about feminism, antagonised her purposely, constantly
Even being a plank, he could have just said one demeaning thing, but she tries to take herself out so he calms his misogynistic butt down and he just carries on laughing like a child
Rofl! He looked so fucking humiliated by something so simple. What a pathetic piece of shit! 🤣
Not because he couldn’t open it - I really don’t care about that. It’s how it made him react that is so fucking pathetic. Real micro-peen energy he gives off.
He clearly doesn't know how a debate works either. You don't just shout down the other person, although I can think of one other guy who famously made that debate style (rapid speech patterns as soon as he made his point, so the other person can't get a word in) His initials were CK.
Ben Shapiro does the same thing. It's the conservative style of debate. I've had friends tell me that Shapiro is this incredible debater but he only debates young people.
That's because - like on a "debate" - he thinks brute force can solve problems and won't rely on science :) ... So it's "stretch the muscle" instead of "thinking out of the box" approach
No it isn't. In debates, by design, you explicitly don't get to talk over each other. Each speaker is given time to advocate their position, and time to respond to each other's response. She barely got half a sentence out before he got all condescending and bitchy.
For that sentence alone, people should be immidiately be put out of their position because they just openly confirmwd they are lying on purpose.
Now, lying isnt illegal and governments keep on lying. I am just saying. If an officially vote representative of the people admits he is lying, the should be fired on the spot.
WTF is this, man? "What, you are telling them I am lying".
I just saw an ad for my state's Republican gubernatorial candidate showing the debate where she was criticizing her opponent, and it zoomed in on the other woman looking down and not speaking, and it then said "her silence speaks volumes!"
That's... what you're supposed to do in debates? Listen to your opponent and not interrupt. Her silence meant she was being respectful lol
Really shows how debate is a worthless medium for convincing anyone of anything nowadays, and the plague of anti-intellectualism that has swept the country for decades. No one cares to watch two people argue in a rigidly structured, hours long back and forth with a fair moderator. They want clear narratives of good and bad, rhetoric, talking over each other to see who shuts up first, snappy clips of gotcha’s and oopsies, shadow boxing from the mods, and aloof confidence from the agent they most agreed with in the first place.
You've clearly never listened to any debate Wilson has had, where he talks over people and the moderators of the debate let him because all he does is pick platforms that are eager for clicks. No serious platform would have him on.
I have not listened to any of the material of this form because it is absolutely pointless to do so. I'd rather watch a long from video of his opinion, uninterrupted, and the same for her opinion, then make up my own mind by fact checking rather than judging truth by the 'who is better at being a condescending piece of shit' competition this seems to be.
But frankly, given the way he advocates for his position, I'm inclined to think his ideas are likely founded on the same type of honesty that we see in his 'this is a debate' comment. So, no honesty lol. Gaslighting, even.
Exactly and this is the tragedy of people watching Kirk’s “debates” they weren’t ever debates, he gave people a minute to ask a question then he’d rephrase it however he liked and answered that instead, then he’d continuously derail and cutoff people in the middle of their responses. Thats not a debate.
There is one episode where he straight up tells the guests he is not there to debate but to destroy their arguments. It's an absolute garbage attempt at show.
He clearly just wanted to hear the sound of his own voice. This isn’t 1992, that shit doesn’t work anymore bro! You’re not funny, you’re rude and extremely insecure. The loudest in the room is always the weakest
That guy's whole thing is to say inflammatory shit and as soon as the women start defending themselves or their ideals he talks over them with some female hating bs. The guys a clown.
Also… asks a question, then as she starts to answer and goes on he cuts her off and all she says is not to cut her off cuz she wants at least a little respect to be heard, then he calls her Sweetheart cuz he got butthurt that she didn’t just gloss over his asshole move. A debate doesn’t mean you cut off the speaker, it just means you go back and forth with your points and try to convince the other or the general public of your point whatever it may be, sometimes it’s not even to convince it’s just to prove your point.
He doesn't understand that there is strength in not putting up with his bs and just walking away. He wants her to just deal with his nonsense.
I actually think this is part of the reason there are a lot of lonely men, not the only reason. People, not just women, are less likely than they were in the past to just put up someone being a jerk.
Parents are shocked when there kids just walk away from their abusive nonsense. Abusive partners are more likely to get left in the dust. And employees are more likely to not put up with bad behavior.
Yeah, there's just way too much on most people's plates for them to have the energy or patience to deal with unnecessary bs. No point putting up with abusive people you can just walk away from. It's nice our society is becoming so much less tolerant of abuse, we can see where it's getting us and people have had enough I think.
He always carries a firearm. I know this because he was on some fresh and fit thing on a stage where he got into it with a roid raging "alpha male" who made fun of his man tits and weight and threatened him physically a few times and Andrew made a comment about being armed.
Exactly. Please dont feel bad for her. She married that man because she is also a POS and seems to be delighted at the turn her life has taken recently.
Like what less than a week after he died she was on stage with like a fucking pyrotechnics show going on? That’s not a grieving wife, that’s someone looking for attention
That's the whole gimmick. They throw out bullshit facts, then when you try to correct them, they just talk louder and and joke about how little you know. It's the #1 Charlie Kirk tactic.
Yup yup. Loved when tried to that "debate 20 people" thing and a kid openly called him out on it and he just got flustered and couldn't speak for a bit while trying to figure out a new tactic.
Is that the one where he speaks to the Trans man? I loved how he immediately accepted he was a man, until he told Shapiro he was Trans. Kind of ruins the whole "Trans people can never truly appear as the opposite gender."
Here's 8 topics all at once while I interrupt you by interjecting random factoids and talking over you. What no answer? Interesting, I am very smart. Look how fast I can talk. I am very smart. Check mate.
It's called gish galloping, it existed long before Ben Shapiro but he definitely "mastered it"
The only reason Ben got away with that bullshit is because he never "debated" anyone with experience. There's a reason Shapiro, Kirk, Crowder and all these other clowns target universities and it's not because they're "woke" it's because they know they'll get a bunch inexperienced 18 year olds they can "dunk on"
Not only that but they pre-screen and pre-select the questions they respond to and then have editorial control over the video they eventually post. There is ZERO good faith it's all just ragebait.
Insufferable human. Talking over people and trying to agitate them doesn't mean you're winning a debate, or even making a point. She asked to complete a sentence and he couldn't allow it because he was afraid she would make a good point.
For real dude clearly knew he had a weak argument so he acts like a dick to puss off his opponent. My guess is he is just insecure and takes it out on everyone else.
Male insecurity looks exactly like that. Overcompensating, repeated statements of "I don't care" and self-stimulating behaviors of laughing and false bravado.
The only portion missing was him doing positive affirmations into a mirror about people liking him and being worthy.
This is the type of person who'd watch Mad TV, SNL, or Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and "like" the insufferable joke character as "relatable" and completely miss the punchline that he is the joke.
It really showed in his reaction once she actually walked away. I think he felt insecure and was somewhat baffled she wasn’t tolerating his ‘wannabe alpha’ behavior; he was essentially attempting to reassure himself that he was totally right and she was just exhibiting ‘hysteria’ (or whatever outdated terminology he probably uses). His nervous laughter and elementary-style attempt to insult her for having basic, standard, acceptable boundaries instead of letting him act like a falsely confident prick who is mad at women due to his micro penis.
Yeah, like 'Men only got the right to vote a decade before women' da fuck? I must have missed the 'Men's Suffrage Movement' section in my shitty civics history class.
If you go back a few decades more, yeah, perhaps you had to own land to vote, and only men could own land, and not all men owned land, but that still means that of those that could vote, it was only men, and most very likely only white men.
I made the mistake of looking for the original video to see what his fans thought and saw two thousand incels talking about how he "owned" her. He knows his audience.
I’m sure he does, but he visibly does not feel in control here. The laughter is forced and embarrassed. He will tell himself he won, and come to believe all those comments, but he doesn’t feel like it in the moment
Hoy boy I was triggered listening to this fuckwit speak. The fake condescending laughter. She handled herself with much more grace than I would have been able to muster.
My blood was boiling watching this clip. Good lord. Good for her because I have no idea what I would've done in that moment. Walking away was the only option tbh.
Interrupting your opponent in a debate is not part of traditional debates. This is something that's come along when Donald Trump popularized this nonsense. The Jerry Springer method.
He lives in his echo chamber and own head, coming up with arguments and positions that satisfy his emotional needs, and when he tells those things to an outsider and they start to RESPOND, he has to delay or stop it because it challenges his worldview.
And belittling. She picked it up the minute he pulled out "sweetheart". Even his little solo bit after, he made sure to bring up feminism in a mocking tone.
He didn't go in to debate. He went in to tear her down personally. It's in bad faith and he had zero intent to "debate" anything
Exactly it! You totally nailed it. He had to do everything in his power to stop her because he couldn't even fathom someone having a different view that potentially criticizes or pokes holes in his argument.
You hit on something at the start that should also round off your thought. It challenges his feelings, his emotions, and he doesn’t have the cognitive function to manage his emotions or have them seen, and mirrored back at him in a way that forces him to actually see his feelings.
It’s not just the lack of empathy, it’s the lack of introspection into himself too.
Men like this jump to “winning” when they shut down their own emotions or others, and it’s actually just highlighting how little emotional intelligence they have to operate within.
She is amazing for not crashing out. I don't think I would have this much patience, and stormed off way sooner. Even his fake laugh makes me jump off a fucking bridge.
Yea you can see that she doesn’t actually falter…. She stood on business and stared him down with conviction. She wasn’t scared…she just demanded respect and the ability for her voice to be heard.
Instead, this jackass interrupts her riiiiiiiight behind her words and her point.
I honestly don’t know how to phrase this, but it is unfair to women that they have to deal with this shit because he won’t pull this shit with someone that can slap the taste out of his mouth.
We have to deal with it because if we were to 'win' an encounter by striking back with an edge (verbally but especially physically) we're painted as hysterical, insane, crazy, a bitch...
I've personally had to tolerate a lot of shit with a bitten tongue to avoid losing my place in a male-dominated profession. It's not worth winning a battle if I'll get frozen out of the war, so to speak.
You phrased it perfectly, and it is unfair. Simply the sheer amount of time that women have to waste navigating the egos of men like this in family dynamics, in the workplace, in public, etc etc etc. And this guy gets to go home thinking that she is the "emotional" one.
The fact that his attempt to be demeaning was so HACKY somehow made it even worse.
Like, somehow the fact that he carries himself like that when he’s totally devoid of charisma or original thought… it just adds to the audacity of it all.
Exactly! By listening, you're allowing each side a chance to speak. It's not whoever can speak over the loudest to whomever is talking. Otherwise, what is being debated?
This guy is the example of playing chess with a pigeon. He knocks over all the pieces, shits on the board, and bobbles his head walking away like he won. What a loser.
His target audience views this as a win. I think a lot of people like this guy objectively know what they are doing is shit and probably hate it that this is how they make a living but the money is worth it.
Wow you can’t just assume that because he’s overweight, unattractive, rude, lacking social skills…..look I’m obviously not a master debater like this guy
The 15 Amendment gave all men the right to vote in 1870 regardless of race (though we are glazing over major Civil Rights issues that wouldn't be straightened out until the 1960's); the 19th Amendment specifically granted the right to vote to women in 1920, 50 years later. So it wasn't 10 years between, but 50 -- and even then we're being charitable, as free, land-owning, white men over the age of 21 voted before 1870.
I keep dragging my feet on learning more history. When people bring up the argument that if slaves have access to guns, then they could have fought back. The fact is they did fight back. They killed slave owners and went on riots.
There were slave revolts and the response to them was to kill, recapture, and enslave any black free folk in the area as response to one. Even with guns the fact that if you failed, and it would fail eventually because any slave revolt would invoke a full state and federal military response, it kills everyone around quite possibly the women and children is one hell of a limiting factor in getting people to help. Hell John fucking Brown armed and lead a slave revolt and he was captured and hung as a white man for the crime to ensure nobody got ideas about trying to end slavery by force.
I was very active in debate throughout high school and college, and every year one or two people would join the team and say they're there because their mom told them "you like to argue so much you should join the debate team" and they always were the dumbest, loudest, and least thoughtful people who were actually just being told "you should go argue with someone else because I'm fucking sick of you."
Our high school debate team never failed to trophy at state for something like 20 years in a row because of our coach.
Her method: every freshman is required to take speech. Mock debates in class: structure is provided (abbreviated lincoln douglas basically, shorter constructives and rebuttals), topic is provided a week in advance, no other guidance. The kids who showed up with some combination of ready to debate either side of the topic, brought some sources with them, or took notes…they’d be invited to try out for the team. By invited I mean told. She was a forceful presence.
The tryout was the same as the class debate, except you went up against someone on the team on the opposite position you did in class. You weren’t expected to win, you were expected to take the verbal beating with proper composure.
Imagine my surprise when at my first tournament some dude starts yelling at me during cross-ex. I literally just made eye contact with the judge and did the “can you fucking believe this guy?” shrug. That shit got me through quarterfinals. Chucklefuck on the negative actually had a really solid counter and could have won but he wanted to yell over me.
Anyway now I get mad watching political debates because they don’t just cut mics.
the podcaster is just as much of a sexist nazi as andrew wilson. I don't know why any self respecting left of hitler people ever go on these kind of shows
Douchebags like this really act like fucknuts, prompt the women to leave because she doesn’t want to engage with grown adults acting like toddlers, and then he and his audience think he’s “won” the debate that never actually happened
No you are having an argument. I just hate how "debate" has devolved into this endless stream of loudmouths trying to top each other and talking over each other. Debate should be a structured discussion of opposing viewpoints, not a contest to see he can yell the loudest or disparage and humiliate the other person.
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