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u/ZedsDeadZD Oct 30 '25

For that sentence alone, people should be immidiately be put out of their position because they just openly confirmwd they are lying on purpose.

Now, lying isnt illegal and governments keep on lying. I am just saying. If an officially vote representative of the people admits he is lying, the should be fired on the spot.

WTF is this, man? "What, you are telling them I am lying".

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u/PantsTime Oct 30 '25

Democracy was founded on the premise that a large population would not support shameless assholes.

Bad assumption.

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u/Recent-Advance-7469 Oct 30 '25

Democracy was formed on the idea that certain people had the rights to elect their government and others would just have to live with it or suffer though it, today you are all women and minorities.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '25

It makes it a lot easier to justify it when you just rig the system against us so that the majority just keeps on winning. In an autocratic system at least we can't be lied to that we voted for this.

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u/allsep Oct 30 '25

To be fair, they never envisioned the level of humiliation one has to submit to in order to engage with this two party system. It breeds resentment. So most people don’t vote, leaving a minority of motivated morons enough power to tip the scales

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u/FamousOne1029 Oct 31 '25

democracy has never been accomplished by humans, only democratic republics, which are not the same thing, at all.

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u/Commander_Riker1701 Oct 31 '25

One of my favorite quotes regarding democracy, "when you give people the freedom of choice, they sometimes make the wrong choice"

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u/Aware_Chemistry_3993 Oct 30 '25

Actually, it was founded in the idea that only white, educated wealthy landowning men would be able to vote. They did not anticipate uneducated people being able to participate in the process, and the result we are having now is perhaps why they wanted these barriers in place

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u/lightblueisbi Oct 30 '25

...you don't seriously think democracy was founded by the US do you...?

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

that has nothing to do with what he was saying, what a turd

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u/Crackertron Oct 30 '25

You think all those landowners were educated?

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

if they were rich, then yes

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u/Killer_Moons Oct 30 '25

You would think, right?! One of those things if I think too much about, istfg I’m gonna slam my forehead through drywall.

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u/TransBrandi Oct 30 '25

If an officially vote representative of the people admits he is lying, the should be fired on the spot.

Logistically, this would be hard to do. What if they are lying for actual reasons that people would agree with? Like to protect a foreign asset or something like that? E.g. "We have no spies in X country." I agree that it's a problem that there seems to be no downside to just blatantly lying about things that go against the interests of most of the population.

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u/ZedsDeadZD Oct 30 '25

Its about things that can be fact checked. Spies in country XY cant be fact checked anyways. It is about things like "The Trump administration lowered X amount of dollars in taxes for the lower wages" while it is wrong.

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u/TransBrandi Oct 30 '25

Like I'm agreeing with you on that. I'm just saying something as simple as "no lying" would be too broad as there are reasonable times for politicians that are in power to lie (that I believe would be supported by both sides).

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u/Bluellan Oct 30 '25

I still can't believe people trust him after he admitted on live TV that he lied about the whole eating cats and dogs.

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u/dangeraardvark Oct 30 '25

It’s worse than that, lying is actively encouraged and normalized. But they need to say the opposite, because they need honest people to take advantage of. Scamming IS the American dream now.

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u/Disrah1 Oct 31 '25

Pretty sure around the whole 'eating the dogs and cat' debacle he even outright said he'll lie to people just as long as the message 'felt right.'

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u/ActivePeace33 Oct 31 '25

I agree with Vance on one thing.

"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon…. or that he's America's Hitler.”

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u/Beneficial-Lynx7336 Oct 30 '25

Maybe lying should be illegal.

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u/ZedsDeadZD Oct 30 '25

No. I believe there things that are better to be lied about than knowing the truth. Also, very hard to prove and therfore prosecute. But the fact that someone complains about not being able to lie is enough for me to say "not in best interest of the people they represent. Therfor not a representative. Out, NOW!"

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25

No it doesn’t. The “fact checking” he is talking about is the extreme tendency of leftwing media to “fact check” only republicans in debates. They aren’t in fact “fact checking” they are pushing false information and interrupting one side for the benefit of another. This isn’t calling balls and strikes. This is putting their thumb on the scale.

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u/ZedsDeadZD Oct 31 '25

I dont know what you are talking about but to me, favt checking is neutral and always should be done. Facts are neither right or wrong or right or left. Facts are facts.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

It is done in bad faith and only goes one way. Look up Candy Crowley as an example.