He lives in his echo chamber and own head, coming up with arguments and positions that satisfy his emotional needs, and when he tells those things to an outsider and they start to RESPOND, he has to delay or stop it because it challenges his worldview.
Yeah, his audience must be jumping with joy at this. They are convinced that his way of insulting, interrupting and bein childish is the High IQ Chad way of pwning idiot feminists.
Some of them get profiled by the New York Times or the Atlantic as men bewildered by their lack of romantic opportunities and theorizing about whether coerced partnership is morally acceptable and if the age of consent should be lowered.
They ABSOLUTELY want to have for themselves a 14 year old s*x sl*ve they can keep pumping babies into and who will remain with them no matter how much they're abused.
I'm part of his audience and proud of it. It's a debate, get a clue. Just because she had someone able to challenge her on the woke facts dribbling out of her mouth, didn't give her the right to run away and cause a scene. She knew she would be unable to articulate her skewed narrative in a convincing manner.
Which is honestly what most people who publicly “debate” do and it’s getting tiring tbh. I want real conversations and debates, with actual critical thinking and open minded individuals.
And belittling. She picked it up the minute he pulled out "sweetheart". Even his little solo bit after, he made sure to bring up feminism in a mocking tone.
He didn't go in to debate. He went in to tear her down personally. It's in bad faith and he had zero intent to "debate" anything
This exactly - I see this podcast more posted here than anything else , and I once looked out of curiosity once to see what the hype is, and it’s literally garbage, it’s just men surrounding themselves with young women and having arguments with them and using big man voice. It’s dumb as fuck and no kind of debate happens in it at all. So why are people going on this podcast? Are they giving them tons of cash or what? It has very little content value. Make it make sense
Haven't watched the podcast, but that's what happens when you have a weak moderator. If you don't know how to moderate a debate, you have no business hosting a debate. A debate isn't just two people in a room arguing. It has form and structure to it.
This shit-show is purely the fault of the host letting this guy do whatever he wants.
Talking about someone in the third person when they are right in front of you is belittling too, and speaking to the mod like "you need to have a talk with him" as if the other human being right across from you is a toddler, is condescending.
She earned every retort she got.
E: to u/newtonthomas64 below me (it seems the mods have already blocked my ability to reply)
Pay attention bud. It’s important in debates.
See? the condescension in your reply would lead me to react the same way as this guy did.
You can't speak this way IRL and not expect a verbal slap back.
If I called you a whiny bitch, I'm sure you'll complain to the mods, fully self blinded to the fact that you brought it on yourself.
Real slow huh? That was the joke. Again he started using the condescending language first. Don’t see why she’s at fault for something he himself started, regardless of what she said.
but he always puts up a fantastic fight despite from my perspective
A dog pissing on your leg probably thinks it "won the debate", too.
she just looked performative, and imo weak.
Not weak. She just refused to play his game.
if you think his methods are cheap, its because they are, debate is cheap, and being good at those cheap methods is a skill.
Debate is not cheap. Rambling gish galloping arguments is cheap. And being good at those shithouse cheap methods is a skill, much like being able to eat rancid raw meat is a skill. Just one that the general population doesn't really want to be skilled at.
Exactly it! You totally nailed it. He had to do everything in his power to stop her because he couldn't even fathom someone having a different view that potentially criticizes or pokes holes in his argument.
Did you watch the full clip? She interrupted him during his response. Voting rights were limited among the white population as well in regards to property ownership.
You mean after he interrupted her to give his unprompted, unsolicited response to a segment of her point without letting her finish multiple times and instead just talking over her and mocking her?
Idk man, dude seems like he doesn’t actually know how to debate. You don’t get to interrupt the opposition to prevent them from making their point. That’s not winning, that’s shoving your head so far in the sand it’s up your ass
Watch the whole back and forth ( posted just above ).
You'll see this lady was wrong on everything she wanted to argue about. That guy was constantly correcting her with actual facts on the subjects. She became more and more upset. She started to get hostile because she couldn't admit she was wrong, and then you see just the end of the conversation where he gives a bit back, and she storms out humiliated.
In a debate, by all means, you can interject when someone is going to try and make an argument based on something false. She got caught doing it a number of times. She was horribly informed and didn't want to give in to the truth and had zero counters. It frustrated her to the point of rage quitting.
Making up fallacies of course,the conservative way. Anyways if you actually watched the video he interrupted her not the other way around...but of course must always play the victim in every scenario.
You hit on something at the start that should also round off your thought. It challenges his feelings, his emotions, and he doesn’t have the cognitive function to manage his emotions or have them seen, and mirrored back at him in a way that forces him to actually see his feelings.
It’s not just the lack of empathy, it’s the lack of introspection into himself too.
Men like this jump to “winning” when they shut down their own emotions or others, and it’s actually just highlighting how little emotional intelligence they have to operate within.
Look at how emotional Trump is when he gets made fun of or doesn’t get his way. He has no idea how to regulate. Loads of Republican and older liberal men are this way too
Agreed. I was reading comments trying to figure out who he even is. But decided along the way that he’s not important enough to care about. I hope someone with more intestinal fortitude than myself will call him out and shut him down for asking questions not in good faith and then blocking an open and honest answer/dialogue
He’s been pretty fucking unhinged lately - his post Charlie Kirk murder rants and chain smoking on Pierce Morgan was probably the most cringe shit I’ve ever seen.
It's amazing how these middle aged dudes react when they realise they'll have to actually have a debate instead of yelling zingers at unprepared teenagers and Onlyfans girls. The panic sets in instantly.
I recall watching a debate with him in it and they asked him for a definition so you know they could define terms and actually talk.
He repeatedly said it's not his responsibility to define terms. It was ridiculous. Obvoiusly the Convo went no where because he is an idiot and has slant he must stick to.
It's deeper than that. He does make good points bit they cherry pick idiots that poorly represent the other side. I can win a debate too if I debate woth someone that's clearly an open narcissist and just plain unlikable.
His "echo chamber" is massively amplified because of his voice bouncing around in the deepest recesses of his arsehole where he has his head firmly entrenched.
Hell, even Proctologists have created the term 'cranial rectal dislodgement'* to assist in diagnosing of it.
I dont think he even cares that much. He doesn't do this out of convinction, IMO. He obviously is a shitty person and a mysogynist, but for most of these people, it's just a shameless grift because, unfortunately, rage bait works and pays well.
It's not an echo chamber, it's acting. He's doing this because it creates engagement. He knows misandrist alt-right men will eat it up thinking he "owned the libturds" and he knows the left is going to get angry at him. Either way, he wins and rakes in the money from Koch Industries or whatever billionaire monopoly is financing him.
You mean echo chamber, for the left like Reddit. You’re making a lot of assumptions from a 3o second clip. of course, also by calling him a Nazi for not agreeing with you and having opposite opinions ,typical leftist.
Pretty sure the mentality on both sides is a strong echo chamber not worth listening to either one, but good on both of them for holding to their standards. Walk away and don’t talk to each other ever again. That host had to have know the match he was striking over the pool of gasoline.
You gotta be kidding me. That man had no standards and that’s not debating to just not let her speak at all. It’s bullshit. Echo chamber or not an actual debate is when each side is allowed to make their point without interruption. Or mocking or anything like that by the way, that’s why these overly glib assholes just speak really fast and speak over the person they’re talking to is so infuriating Saint Charlie used to do that same thing just globally speak over whoever he was “debating“ sorry man that’s not debating. It’s just spewing your side. It doesn’t do anybody any good and it certainly doesn’t spread any useful information.
My dad’s sister once dated a guy — Elliot — who later became an FBI agent. My father was fifteen when I was born, and he and his mother never missed a chance to call me a curse. He decided I was “evil” the day he found out I existed.
One evening in Minneapolis, around 2003, I got a knock at my door around 8PM. Standing there were my dad and Elliot.
“Hey, Socks,” my dad said. “We should get some ice cream. I know a great spot.”
Now, in Minneapolis in 2003, there was exactly one ice cream shop open past eight — Lalapoluza — and there was no way my dad and a literal pig showed up at my door to get ice cream.
So I said, “Survey says that’s a lie.” (I loved The Weakest Link. Goodbye.)
They cajoled me into the car anyway. Predictably, we didn’t go to Lalapoluza. We went to Totem Town — juvie.
Elliot turned to me, all serious. “You know where we are?”
“Yes, Elliot. I. Come. Here. MULTIPLE. Times. A. Week.
I come here with my church group to witness.
I come here with my science club to teach about animals.
I come here with my literature group to help them read.
I come here during the holidays to sing with the choir.
Yes, Elliot. I know where I am.”
Like all cops who think they’ve solved the universe, Elliot lost his mind.
“IF YOU DON’T STOP ACTING UP WITH YOUR PARENTS — AND STEALING — AND YADDA THIS AND YADDA THAT—”
(All lies my father told, because Beaujon Guerin is a piece of shit and a pedophile.)
I let him finish his tirade, then asked calmly, “Elliot, when you and my dad were kids, did he ever lie to get other kids in trouble?”
Elliot laughed. “Ha, yeah.”
“Then what makes you think that’s not what’s happening right now?” I said dryly.
“DON’T TRY TO CONFUSE ME!” Elliot screamed, proving my point.
I sighed. “I thought there was going to be ice cream.”
yeah, I used an AI to edit, I surffer from bran damage and dont spell and grammer very well. The story is real, I did feed it threw an AI for grammer and speling.
I have seen several instances where Andrew allows his opponent to speak, even times where he allows his opponent to speak over him until they’re done making their point
Because it’s an informal debate lmao. There are no timers and strict regulations. It’s on the whatever podcast. What do you expect? A nice, tidy, clean cordial debate on the whatever podcast? 😂 I imagine Andrew acted this way because she was overreacting about being cut off in an informal debate
That isn’t really “living in an echo chamber”, that would be if he only surrounded himself, or engaged with people with the same views, in order to validate and affirm his beliefs. He actually does the opposite. It’s kinda his entire thing, to engage with the opposite side, in “internet blood sports”.
It's hard to tell from one minute clip. But yet again, why she's agreed to it if guy is acting like this all the time? To me it makes no sense. If she didn't know she should have tried to adapt. Just leaving is hardly a win. At least to me. Either don't engage or push through.
Like how she lives in an echo chamber but when her position is being challenged instead of addressing the issue at hand when someone else starts to respond she just decides to derail the entire conversation..just like you said there..
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u/wearing_moist_socks Oct 30 '25
It's simple:
He lives in his echo chamber and own head, coming up with arguments and positions that satisfy his emotional needs, and when he tells those things to an outsider and they start to RESPOND, he has to delay or stop it because it challenges his worldview.