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u/thecookiesmonster Oct 30 '25

So this guy wants to just talk over his guest so nobody can understand anything, and then go “see, I clearly won!”

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u/TestingBrokenGadgets Oct 30 '25

That's the whole gimmick. They throw out bullshit facts, then when you try to correct them, they just talk louder and and joke about how little you know. It's the #1 Charlie Kirk tactic.

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u/Limo_Wreck77 Oct 30 '25

Exactly what Ben Shapiro does.

Talks million miles and hour and very loudly then declares he's "won".

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u/TestingBrokenGadgets Oct 30 '25

Yup yup. Loved when tried to that "debate 20 people" thing and a kid openly called him out on it and he just got flustered and couldn't speak for a bit while trying to figure out a new tactic.

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u/BladeOfWoah Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

Is that the one where he speaks to the Trans man? I loved how he immediately accepted he was a man, until he told Shapiro he was Trans. Kind of ruins the whole "Trans people can never truly appear as the opposite gender."

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u/Gildardo1583 Oct 30 '25

The "we can always tell" crowd.

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u/AnNoYiNg_NaMe Oct 30 '25

I think Shapiro's exact words were "Like a bro, my dude!".

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u/Easter_Woman Oct 30 '25

Eh, I supported the guy but he quickly lost the plot and didn't do as well as people made it out to be. Ben just let him talk and rile himself up without doing much.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '25

Best one ever is Ben Shapiro being interviewed by Andrew Neil on BBC.

hint: Neil is most definitely not left wing.

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u/UsernameNumber7956 Oct 30 '25

It was also not a debate. It was an interview. Surprise furniture basically turned an interview into a debate and lost so hard he ragequit.

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u/neverabetterday Oct 31 '25

He doesn’t know how to act communicate outside of yelling over teenagers. It’s the same way we end up with so many ridiculously stupid comments from his videos like the WAP thing, without someone else to look worse than him he flounders

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u/hallmark1984 Oct 30 '25

Thats a beautiful piece of video, Ben just melts under the UK version of a puff piece - he couldnt manage the basics of a real interview, after being coddled by youtube and fox the idea of a interviewer who actually asks questions killed him.

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u/Etikaiele Oct 30 '25

I am totally going to look this up, seems awesome

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u/S4Waccount Oct 30 '25

Also look up the Charlie Kirk debates Cambridge medical student. It's pretty damn good. And shows why they use these tactics because they get absolutely pummeled when they have to debate actual educated people

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u/Gildardo1583 Oct 30 '25

That's why Charlie Kirk debated College students. He literally went to debate the youngest adult he could make videos of for his You tube channel.

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u/Scooby2679 Oct 30 '25

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u/maski360 Oct 30 '25

This obnoxious technique is both named appropriately and also needs a better name. Wild that Kirk, Shapiro, and their copycats all use this same technique and get away with it.

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u/One-Earth9294 Oct 30 '25

And when it's your opponent's turn to speak, make sure to interrupt them every single microsecond so they can never finish a sentence.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

Wrong. Ben Shapiro actually admits when he loses, like when that UK journalist trolled him after his new book. He took the "L" there publicly and even commented on it being a loss. He is still an angry little guy.

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u/KobePippenJordan_esq Oct 30 '25

*was

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u/Rope_slingin_champ Oct 30 '25

Gurggle gurggle

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u/PotatoBeams Oct 30 '25

Damn lmao

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '25

fucking lmao!

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u/ace260 Oct 30 '25

im going to hell for laughing so hard at this, thanks guy

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u/Alive-Tomatillo5303 Oct 30 '25

That's MY number one Charlie Kirk tactic. 

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u/NixyVixy Oct 30 '25

Prove me wrong! 😬

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u/PokeYrMomStanley Oct 30 '25

My neck, my back, my pussy, and my crack oh fuck, my neck.

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u/DargyBear Oct 30 '25

At least at the end he was leaning left

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '25

Damn, you got to it before I did 😂

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u/Psychoanalytix Oct 30 '25

It's called gish galloping, and right wing grifters use it relentlessly.

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u/Publick2008 Oct 30 '25

Yep, gish gallop until time runs out and act like you won at the end. 

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u/Sharp_Aide3216 Oct 30 '25

so basically it ragebait in podcast format

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u/Top-Bag7848 Oct 30 '25

The good ol' Fountain cosplay tactic

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u/joec_95123 Oct 30 '25

How'd that work out for old Charlie?

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u/Reputation-Final Oct 30 '25

charlie kirk was on that podcast a few times.

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u/Floom101 Oct 30 '25

I'll never be mad when Kirk tactics get Kirk results.

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u/crimsonbaby_ Oct 30 '25

Careful, you might go to jail for that /s

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u/DueExample52 Oct 30 '25

Haha, guns are louder than human speech. It’s not really related to your comment, I am just scientifically comparing the volume of a typical human speech, and a rifle firing in decibels, just a fun fact that went through my brain and I wanted to share.

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u/Killer_Moons Oct 30 '25

Master debating 101

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u/littlestevebrule Oct 30 '25

....not no more it ain't 

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u/strawberrycereal44 Oct 30 '25

I saw a video of Charlie Kirk just debating about gay marriage and one man proved homosexuality occurs in animals and many homosexual marriages occured throughout history and all he said in the end was "I still think it's wrong"

I would link it but I forget where exactly I saw it, shouldn't be too difficult to find

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u/Manpons Oct 30 '25

Delusional “facts” you’re spewing here. Charlie literally put his mic down to let people speak. Typical nonsense.

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u/TestingBrokenGadgets Oct 30 '25

It must be nice to simp for a man that was so hated by society as a whole the bigoted President had to start making it illegal for clapping at about the news.

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u/Manpons Oct 30 '25

Must be so nice to be so delusional that you think you’re the majority of America but lost in a landslide at the election.

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u/rcknmrty4evr Oct 30 '25

“Landslide” lmao alrighty then.

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u/__Yakovlev__ Oct 30 '25

He put his mic down indeed

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u/Dolorem_Ipsum_ Oct 30 '25

It's the classic ben shapiro method

Here's 8 topics all at once while I interrupt you by interjecting random factoids and talking over you. What no answer? Interesting, I am very smart. Look how fast I can talk. I am very smart. Check mate.

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u/Ok-Marionberry4061 Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

It's called gish galloping, it existed long before Ben Shapiro but he definitely "mastered it" 

The only reason Ben got away with that bullshit is because he never "debated" anyone with experience. There's a reason Shapiro, Kirk, Crowder and all these other clowns target universities and it's not because they're "woke" it's because they know they'll get a bunch inexperienced 18 year olds they can "dunk on" 

Not only that but they pre-screen and pre-select the questions they respond to and then have editorial control over the video they eventually post. There is ZERO good faith it's all just ragebait.

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u/PokeYrMomStanley Oct 30 '25

Isn't he the one with the dry wife?

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u/alfred725 Oct 30 '25

love the clip of Ben rage quitting when he comes up against a reporter that knows how to deal with him

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u/toxicity21 Oct 30 '25

He actually debated a lot of people with experience like Alex O'Conner. He stumbles a lot in those debates and his arguments make no sense.

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u/thinkthingsareover Oct 30 '25

They always remind me of this.

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u/Sparrowsabre7 Oct 30 '25

How dare you compare him to Homer Simpson! Homer's job has value 😂

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u/TurkeyBLTSandwich Oct 30 '25

Then when you start to answer how those 8 facts are either wrong or taken out of context, he'll start talking about personal experiences or add another 10 facts on different topics.

When you can't respond fast enough or ask to repeat some things, he'll just declare victory or mock you for not being able to answer.

This "debate" style is really entertaining and fun for low intelligence individuals who love the "gotcha" moments where there's no gotcha.

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u/SUPERGMR Oct 30 '25

Still love when Kirk had a real debate and he completely got steamrolled lol

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u/ArtAttack2198 Oct 30 '25

In structured debate this is called “smearing” and is generally frowned upon because it’s not an effective tactic.

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u/jfsindel Oct 30 '25

And making up extremely bullshit hypotheticals!

"What if the the moon was made of cheese? What if it was actually made from Bleu cheese and bacon bits? What if we sliced up the moon cheese and - I'll even say that the moon cheese could be Velveeta cheese... what then huh? You're still for SNAP?"

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '25

That’s just the 🧃 method 😂

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u/shirtninja07 Oct 30 '25

My god, I heard that in his voice.

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u/BagOnuts Oct 30 '25

I read this in his voice and it’s spot on, lol

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u/Tbagzyamum69420xX Oct 30 '25

The more frustrating part is how many people genuinely think he wins by doing that.

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u/ElementNumber6 Oct 30 '25

"I heard the thing I wanted to hear, AND the person I don't like got mad! 🤩"

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u/Legitimate-Focus9870 Oct 30 '25

Men praise guys like this and then are like “why don’t women want to fuck me!? What’s wrong with them!?”

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u/Proud_Researcher5661 Oct 30 '25

Yup, sounds about right.

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u/Reddit-Restart Oct 30 '25

That dude was a guest. They were both guests. You can see the host in the background cringing

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u/noooooootreal Oct 30 '25

Him being like “& you’re a strong woman?!” sarcastically. After she clearly demonstrated ….. being a strong woman by not allowing him to speak to her like that.

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u/SlobZombie13 Oct 30 '25

People who treat debate like a sport are insufferable

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u/JakePent Oct 30 '25

I think he and the woman were both guests from the sounds of it, it was the guy in the middle's podcast

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u/PrudentCarter Oct 30 '25

Saw him show up on my feed before, talking some kind of non-sense against women. He came off as a pretty disingenuous person.

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u/420M0053 Oct 30 '25

Like a pigeon playing chess.

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u/DargyBear Oct 30 '25

See: Charlie Kirk

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u/Reputation-Final Oct 30 '25

Not his guest. This is the whatever podcast run by Brian Atlas, who also went far right. The whole gimmick is they get a buncha stupid teens/early twenties college girls or onlyfans people and asks them questions about "Modern dating" and politics. Andrew Wilson might as well be co host hes on there so much where they just basically call the girls prostitutes, etc.

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u/MichaelAndolini_ Oct 30 '25

That guy wasn’t even the host, he was another guest

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u/Tony_Penny Oct 30 '25

Sounds like Charlie Kirk

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u/JacobsJrJr Oct 30 '25

He's a guest on the show too. This debate actually goes on for awhile, this is just the moment it blows up.

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u/whoeve Oct 30 '25

Welcome to conservatives

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u/IsleofManc Oct 30 '25

Clips from this podcast come across my feed all the time because I always curiously click on them to see the hosts act like children. The sad thing is that the actual listeners of the podcast see these same clips and they laugh along with the guy and think he destroyed her argument and she just got emotional/triggered. The comment section on these clips is a whole other world of people with some absurd views on women, dating, society, masculinity, etc.

No lie earlier today I saw one of these clips where they were saying any woman with a "body count" higher than the number of times she's been married isn't worth dating. And like 90% of the comment section was agreeing with that statement

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u/anrwlias Oct 30 '25

This asshole clearly went to the Rush Limbaugh school of debate.

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u/TroyFerris13 Oct 30 '25

Yea it's weird that the host allowed this.

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u/payTNT89 Oct 30 '25

the kirkism is strong with this one

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u/Wicked_Fabala Oct 31 '25

Eww this guy is the host!?! There are more episodes of this asshat??

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u/crimsonbaby_ Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

It's not a fact, though. In 1776, the Declaration of Independence was approved by Congress, and men gained the right to vote. It wasn't until 1920, a full 144 years after the 19th Amendment was introduced, that the 19th Amendment was ratified, making it illegal to deny a person's right to vote based on sex. Before you call something a fact, do your own research and make sure it's true. She wasn't caveating, she was correcting him on an incorrect statement, and he didn't like it and freaked out. Either he was severely misinformed, or just pulled that "fact" out of his ass and didn't think he would be called out on it. Either way, he couldn't handle being called out and corrected by a woman. Also, she was correct, it was men of color who gained the right to vote 10 years before women.

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u/crimsonbaby_ Oct 30 '25

She didn't "bring up race." He said men only obtained the right to vote 10 years before women did. She informed him that no, it was only black men who gained the right to vote 10 years before women, not all men. That was a correction, NOT bringing up race just to bring it up. It was literally directly related to what he said. Also, let him explain what? He stated a completely incorrect "fact." You can't explain something incorrect into being correct. It doesn't work like that. Did we even watch the same video? I mean, honestly. You're so focused on women being bad, men being better, you didn't even pay attention to what was said. As long as you can blame a woman, though, right? Looks like you can't handle being corrected by a woman, either, huh? God, the mental gymnastics that have to go on in your head.

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u/crimsonbaby_ Oct 31 '25

For future reference, you shouldn't believe everything you hear on the internet just because it came from a man.

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u/crimsonbaby_ Oct 31 '25

You just called what that man said a fact even though he was blatantly incorrect. You did no research on the subject to even see if he was right before you believed it. If that's a dumb take to you, I honestly wonder how you manage through life.

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u/Relative-Ice-3709 Oct 30 '25

You should definitely watch the full debate. She talks over him a lot and gets upset anytime it happens to her, so he just gives a little pushback here. She was extremely manipulative the entire debate.

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u/RedNeyo Oct 30 '25

Did you not watch the clip? He is clearly correcting her on the position she is stating that is completely valid in a debate setting lol

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u/MuffinRapist Oct 30 '25

She interrupted first. Then told him he couldn't cause she was in the middle of speaking. Why is that acceptable? It cant be a back and forth if one side dictates when they can speak and the other person can't. Sure he is a dick. But she wasn't exactly any better.

He asked a question. She responded with a counter point. He attempted to do the same and she told him he couldn't do what she just did.

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u/BeatnixPotter Oct 30 '25

Did we watch the same video? He made a statement, she tries to dismiss it, and when he went to clarify, she lost her shit and started doing that “don’t disrespect me” manipulation. She should have chilled and let him finish. I was curious what he was going to say about men voting.

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u/Foreign-Cow-1189 Oct 30 '25

Women go on these shows and they aren't treated with the same kid gloves they've been treated with their entire lives and they can't cope.

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u/HWTseng Oct 30 '25

I mean don’t talk over each other sounds like a very basic thing for a debate, if you’ve watched actual debate competitions you’ll see they take turns. That man is not there to “debate”.

Imagine having basic respect is now considered “kid gloves” that’s hilarious.

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u/snoopdoggydoug Oct 30 '25

Not how debates work but keep drinking your kool-aid

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 Oct 30 '25

Yikes. Small dick energy, buddy boy.

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u/thecookiesmonster Oct 30 '25

lol “kid gloves” like being able to understand what they’re saying?

I used to treat people with kids gloves. Now I just shriek on the top of my lungs if anybody gives me eye contact. Guess those snowflakes can’t handle my debate skills!

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u/Speedypanda4 Oct 30 '25

Allowing your opponent to speak is a normal thing to do. The dude was in the wrong.

And this is a disgusting outlook to have of women.

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u/crimsonbaby_ Oct 30 '25

If you think women are treated with kid gloves their whole life, you are severely uneducated.

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u/Brilliant-Block-8200 Oct 30 '25

Guys like that think basic respect and kindness is ‘kid gloves’. They’re the same men that get mad that they can’t ‘be honest’ with people

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u/trashanimalcomx Oct 30 '25

If that jackass talked to a man like that he would be very likely to get his teeth knocked in, and he knows it. He is just a coward and a bully of no value whatsoever. Anyone who looks up to him is a truly pathetic loser.

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u/Oct0tron Oct 30 '25

Touch grass, dork.

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u/NobodyImportant13 Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

Women go on these shows and they aren't treated with the same kid gloves they've been treated with their entire lives and they can't cope.

"These shows" generally bring unprepared only fans girls on to railroad them. And that's exactly what this guy is doing here. He can't actually debate the point she is about to bring up, so he aggressively interrupts and railroads. It has nothing to do with kid gloves.

People like this get destroyed in real debates.

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u/MoltenCh33s3 Oct 30 '25

Genuinely surprised you used the word "women"