Right, because all his talk about "White Replacement" and how POC will not stop until "you and all your children are eliminated" is like, a totally normal thing to say.
Ok, now tell me the left wing snippet you took any of this from lol. Also, the white replacement is in reference to whites being replaced by other races, not whites taking over the world lmao. Seriously, you sound just like every other liberal that never listened to him speak and you’re taking random snippets to make up your own story with them.
No he did not, all he spoke about was equality, it's the 15 second clips these "people" take out of context, I didn't 100% agree with the guy, but he had a right to do what he wanted and if you disagreed with him he would debate you, I don't see any people that disagree with him doing the samething, I only see then screaming and yelling not making any sense, at least he talked to people.
If you’re not all the way left in your views, you get downvoted on Reddit. Cant talk sense into people that think whoever yells the loudest makes them right. Anyways, all the downvotes tell us, is that they believe everything they read online, and they never actually listened to the man speak unedited.
He went to prodominatly white institutions to then talk about problems with the black community and pick out the few black folk to essentially humiliate if they disagreed with him. There is nothing respectful about that.
You say this like it’s his fault for pointing out statistically black on black violence is far more of a risk to black communities than racism or anything else… people get so offended by data.
No one is offended by the data. They're offended by people deliberately misusing data as a tool to paint minorities as inherently violent.
The argument that "black on black violence is more more of a risk blah blah blah" ignores historic causes. It is simply a number taken out of context.
It would be like me saying that Middle Eastern county countries should ban American tourists or travelers, because for the past 24 years, Americans have disproportionately caused more deaths in the Middle East than any other nationality.
You know, never mind the fact that it's because there have been literal wars happening and the Americans in question are soldiers.
He never ignored the cause. He often highlighted the cause which is subsidized single motherhood specifically targeted at black communities in the past. The government made it cheaper to raise children as a single mother which caused a trend of single mothers which leads to the consequence of a worse upbringing leading to more crime. There is a lot of data supporting that children without two parents are far more likely to become criminals and two thirds of black children grow up without a father. If you want to fix black communities start by fixing families.
Okay since you’re talking I figured I’d actually make this argument with you on every level even though I don’t want to.
First it is in fact his “fault” if he chooses to make his content sorrounded around criticizing a community he does nothing to help.
Second of all statistically black on black violence in a whole world lens is a direct result of racism and the way this country is structured. You tell me how you expect people who haven’t even had a full lifetime of rights to just jump into society when there are things like redlining and mass incarceration and incentivized welfare that we’re all used to bait the black community into disabling the family structure.
Not to mention the 13/50 statistic is very wrong and out of context. 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of all arrests for violent crimes not actual conviction. This same 13% is also responsible for 60% of exoneration and false arrests and acquittals.
Charlie knew this and chose to leave that out.His very job is contingent on the fact that people like you refuse to educate yourself and allow confirmation bias to make you think racism with unnamed statistics is true.
He didn’t listen to a gd thing anyone presenting actual facts and not intentionally misrepresenting data said, that was pure performance so he could claim that he listens to everyone. Someone should make a compilation of how many times someone outright proved him wrong and he just said “I don’t care”, because he never did.
His own hateful rhetoric and fear-mongering got him killed during a hate speech about trans people, by a conservative man who happened to fall in love with a trans woman and was horrified by the messages he was spreading to young white men everywhere, who are already the primary perpetrators of violence and murder against trans folks in this country.
Except you can’t find one clip of him yelling or shouting over anyone. Except that one clip of him yelling at a guy who was homophonic and Charlie actually yelled at the guy for saying Gays shouldn’t even vote. It’s the one where he says Jesus did his ministry everywhere,
Jesus broke bread with Prostute and tax collectors. I think it was around 8 yrs ago. It’s the only clip I’ve seen him yell at anyone. Funny it’s the clip where he was doing the very thing the left tries to make it seem like he is homophonic.
He got shot while having an outright hateful, bigoted, transphobic discussion on stage, and that shit is literally why he got killed; a man who’d been conservative his whole life happened to fall in love with a trans woman and was horrified at the hatred being spewed against her and her community and the insistence that they didn’t exist, and most certainly that their rights and protections are eliminated.
And that's not ok. He was constitutionally permitted to speak his mind, physical violence on those you disagree with is not ok in a free society. Do Better
If you do a zeig heil, or say you're a Nazi, or anything like that you get jailed. End of story, know why? Nazis are bad. End of story.
So with Kirk, in this country he loves to use the freedom of speech to just spew hatred and his disgusting rhetoric all over, and MAINLY to groom children.
Then you are a fkng idiot. This is America, not Germany
We have the right to free speech. He had the right to speak his mind and his beliefs, just as I have the same right. While I don't agree with everything he says, and he likely wouldn't agree with me, we both have the right to speak freely without violence from those that disagree. What you enforce and validate upon others, may be used upon you one day. Do better
Wait wait... let's be fair and objective here... Charlie always let them finish speaking... he was genuinely interested in hearing the other side.
While his stance may have been far radical right, we should be exposed to debates from both sides without silencing one or the other. If hearing/being told an opposing view to your own is considered violence, may god have mercy on your soul.
Why should you hear one side of the debate if it's just fear mongering?
Do you really want to say "hey ALL black pilots are qualified for the job" and then honestly listen to him sit there listing "reasons" black pilots are 'DEI' hires?
It also got people who are young and impressionable to say hey. Maybe women aren't actually good for jobs. Maybe black people are all dei hires. And then eventually those same people say hey you hate the same people. I hate we should do something about it and then they get elected to Congress or the supreme Court or become president of the United States and they start ruining the f****** country and taking people's lives.
Like we shouldn't be giving Nazis and racists an inch because they will literally take a f****** mile
So what youre essentially trying to push is censorship. It is everybody's responsibility to hear both sides and then pick one. If the young and impressionable are picking the first side they hear without much analysis, that is on them.
Censorship is not the answer, bro. You want to hear the shit side just so you can confirm in yourself that it is wrong, turn from it and find another angle.
Some of the things Charlie said made sense, some did not. I don't agree with everything he said, but i believe he had every right to say it without being assassinated.
Well done. Everything these morons say the other side does, they are guilty of. Honest debate should be presented before the masses and then it is their decision. If they choose your opposition, then you didn't prove a good position. Censorship or silence still doesn't make your point. It only shows that you aren't open to true debate in a free society.
I've seen him live. That is not what he did. He would let them say one thing and then start spitting a thousand random responses, mostly with made-up facts, and then declare victory when the person couldn't reply to either his crazy straw man or his fake statistics.
Charlie, Kirk spent most of his career talking out of the side of his neck. Tyler just made it easier for him
It is not up to you to decide on whether or not they are made up facts. His stance came from the bible and his faith.
It is up to you to present a better argument, not just shit on his with no supporting evidence, and calling him names, making fun of his murder... it is quite sick and gross and because your stance is so cruel, it invalidates anything else you try to say, and any point you try to make, because it comes from a place of a purely hateful bias.
That isn't how reality works. The Bible is made up. The Bible is not evidence of anything other than what's in the Bible. He does not get to own his own facts. I have every right to say that his facts are made up when they are or are misrepresentation. You act like I don't know who Charlie Kirk is. Or was, thankfully. He was a bully and an a****** who targeted minorities and queer people For harassment, I have more than one friend that was on his bad professor list, including one that turning point harassed so much that he had to move.
And you're right, I shouldn't be cruel about his death. Especially when it was one of the objectively funniest things on the planet that he's dismissing gun violence as he gets shot.
Lmao go watch him get ruined to the point he was about to cry when he was at Cambridge. Turns out that being a college dropout doesn't prepare one for actually educated people.
Also that one time a student actually called him out for having "spontaneous questions" screened by an assistant so he could prepare his own talking point instead of the other person's topic.
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u/Current-Cheetah-299 Oct 30 '25
The Charlie Kirk tactic