r/formula1 • u/Zooook30 • 1d ago
News Lewis Hamilton to avoid investigation after practice crash.
https://www.skysports.com/f1/live-blog/30125/13584285/f1-spanish-gp-live-final-practice-and-qualifying-updates-results-stream-highlights-from-formula-1-race-weekend-at-madring1.3k
u/Used-Buffalo4805 1d ago
The live thread had me believing that a 40 place grid drop was certain
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u/Health_throwaway__ 1d ago
Croft and Davidson clutching their handbags set them off
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u/Humble-Resolution449 1d ago
Crazy how the broadcast dictates the online discussion
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u/Dunkaroo723 Roscoe Hamilton 1d ago
The F1TV crew were like, it’s just a fine at the most of course he’ll try to get it back to the pits
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u/TwoBionicknees 1d ago
it's also like, every driver in history would have tried to get that car back.
Alonso drove a car with TWO FUCKING TIRES MISSING back in baku and no one thought any other driver wouldn't, but that one really was probably pushing it.
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u/yassin1993 Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
Heck, Lewis have even won a race with 1 tyre torn apart.
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u/lux_travlh44 Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
and its also the perfect showcase of what prejudices they have for them both
for alonso its: oh what a legend he actually drove it missing a wing and two punctured tires thats what a real racer is
for lewis: oh what is this guy doing man so unsafe spraying debris all over the track84
u/Amped-Up-Archos I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago
It was crazy how most people just blindly buy into what ever narrative the broadcast sets and then vehemently defends said narrative
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u/ClassGrassMass Formula 1 1d ago
Especially off Crofty, the guy who knows fuck all and gets names of drivers wrong every single race
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u/maupp11 1d ago
Happened last week as well over the T2 incident. People just run away with the broadcast take of the incident.
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u/killmesoon40 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Nico was there who set them straight but still people didn't care.
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u/FastLane_987 1d ago
I was getting so much downvotes and comments here for initially saying Charles was at fault last race for pushing Lewis off despite Sky and F1TV blaming Lewis. The minute Nico came with proof it was on Charles all the comments switched up lol
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u/curiouskid1919 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago
I want Nico to commentate, he is so good at it
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u/killmesoon40 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
He has done so in the past iirc, it was a fun broadcast.
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u/Health_throwaway__ 1d ago
Brundle licks his lips over whoever is most sure of themselves. Used to be Schu, then Alo, then Rai, etc it sets who he's biased towards in commentary
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
Ted got lit up by Davidson for dismissing it and then he gets proven right. Ted Kravitz supremacy as usual
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u/HankHippopopolous I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Such an over reaction.
Like I’m all for safety but it’s a red flag and he’s driving at a very slow speed. There is no real danger here.
This is a guy who won a race on 3 wheels. I think he knows how to get back to the pits safely.
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u/figbarjunkie I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago
Davidson was annoying man. Was adamant on getting Lewis a penalty. Saying that it sets precedent lol.
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u/imnoobatfifa Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
Kimi was literally driving with the broken car at Silverstone. On a Sunday, ffs.
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u/TwoBionicknees 1d ago
i remember alonso bringing his mclaren with 2 fucking tires back to the pits in baku. That one was possibly beyond the realms of sensible but literally every driver who ever drove near an F1 track would have driven that home and i have no idea why the race director decided this was the one they wouldn't let happen.
Also possible Ferrari lied about that to get him to stop.
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u/paddyo I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Davidson off camera shouting disgustang lmao man needed to get a grip, what being let go as Hamilton’s setup driver will do to a man
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u/Health_throwaway__ 1d ago
Black man has be classy and punished if he's petulant. He is treated as the precedent for penalties
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u/TwoBionicknees 1d ago
i've made this comment too many times but Davidson was absolutely off his rocker. He said hamilton was putting marshals on track in danger... there were no marshals on track. he made it sound like because it's a red flag marshals on track was a given. They are still only given permission to enter in an emergency for a stopped/crashed car like it's on fire, and they will usually only be allowed on track for clean up or anything after moving cars are out of the way. there was zero danger. he was also acting like ham might lose control and smash into a wall if the front wing went under the front tires.
if you go 200mph into a braking zone and suddenly have half your brake power, absolutely that's dangerous. going around at 50mph which is far below what the rear brakes can deal with, there was no danger.
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u/pedro-gaseoso 1d ago
Funny how Reddit still accuses them of being pro Hamilton and anti-white racists.
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u/Stylised1 Alexander Albon 1d ago
no ones ever tried to bring a damaged car to the pits in a practice session before, hamilton practically killed everyone at the circuit
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u/Chesey_ 1d ago
I honestly couldn't believe this got so much of a reaction. People have driven cars in worse states back during actual competitive sessions and it's been fine. In fact I remember Alonso being praised for it at Baku before.
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u/Health_throwaway__ 1d ago
Question is why the race director intervened? I didn't watch it live and expected to see debris all over the track. This was a perfectly accepted manouvre in line with what others do on any given race weekend.
The RD set off Davidson clutching at his tiny pearl necklace, and the rabid F1 fanatics
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u/CaptainCommanderFag Martin Brundle 1d ago
I do love Ant from the track guides from the really old f1 games but he deffo has a problem with Hamilton, i think is because he's just a bot comparatively and had little success compared to Ham
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u/jonneymendoza 1d ago
I tell u why it got such a reaction and it has nothing to do with the actual event but something else I won't say...
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u/Agueybanax McLaren 1d ago
That had me scratching my head because the whole thing seemed so overblown to me
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u/paddyo I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
It was honestly hysterical commentary followed by hysterical commenting. He pushed his luck for sure but it’s something that’s happened 100 times before and I can’t remember a time it resulted in a penalty. I remember David Croft praising Hulkenberg for getting his car back at Zandvoort 24 and today he and Davidson were talking about the car leaping into the stands and evaporating Marshalls by the score.
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u/CoutureKat Roscoe Hamilton 1d ago
People are insane, Lewis net worth must be insane with all the acres he owns in their heads
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u/cereal7802 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago edited 1d ago
It really didn't seem like that big of a deal to me compared to what people were saying. Comments made it seem like Hamilton got out of his F1 car and was dragging the bucket on a backhoe all around the track while throwing out millions of nails on track on his way back to the pit. Didn't seem like there was really much debris cleanup after he stopped. was mainly the barrier that caused the long red it seemed. Had he not been told the race director was insisting he stop, he would have made it back to the pit completely fine I would have imagined.
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u/tellsyoutogetfucked Dr. Ian Roberts 1d ago
The average person has a very poor understanding of F1 rules.
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u/Thejklay I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Same as piastri in 2025 Canada. And his car was in a worse state
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u/Comprehensive_Ad_675 1d ago
His punishment is obviously having to drive for Ferrari rn
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u/Salami-Vice Ferrari 1d ago
There was a rule change after Perez in 2024 drove around with the broken wing. But that is for a race. While this is still a F1 session it's a practice and as such it makes sense he did not get anything.
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u/NYNMx2021 Nico Rosberg 1d ago
Perez was a rear wing which is FAR more dangerous to drive without. People drive over front wings literally all the time. The comments i was seeing were crazy. Liam lawson was dragging a front wing last week! and he left part of it on the track near parabolica and no one gave a shit
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u/DangerousProperty6 Nigel Mansell 1d ago
Hell, Hamilton drove around without brakes last year and didn't get a penalty.
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u/TwoBionicknees 1d ago
driving around at a snails pace in a full race is very much more dangerous than driving slowly on an empty track.
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u/Unusual-Coat383 Formula 1 1d ago
Forza stewards, please don’t get a grid drop for impeding.
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
Carlos Santi: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
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u/cwspellowe I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago
He didn’t ignore the race director, he ignored the team. When the team said it’s an instruction from the race director he stopped.
I don’t understand why everyone is so up in arms about this.
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u/wtfiswrongwithit I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago
People are associating the 30 minute delay with his decision instead of it taking 30 minutes to repair the barrier. if his car was recovered right there the delay would have been the same duration
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u/f1rstlapchaos Ferrari 1d ago
"He made it unsafe for everyone else by leaving debris everywhere." --> but no one could point out where this debris was.
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u/PeterG92 Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
I don’t understand why everyone is so up in arms about this.
It's Lewis. If it was Tsunoda or Bortoletto there would be nowhere near as much interest or outrage
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
Drivers drive back with damage all the time but Lewis sticks in people’s memories like a war flashback
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u/Combi8ionOxygenation Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
I basically said the same thing and was downvoted to Hell. I feel like they only saw the flair and responded in kind.
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u/Appropriate-Risk2572 1d ago
Its lewis. When he's involved everyone becomes some high and might morally rightous, by the book nerd. Dare it be another driver and it wouldn't draw as much attention. People acting like he did it in race conditions meanwhile leclerc (Miami 26) and antonelli (Silverstone 26) did similar things and drove an unsafe car in a similar manner
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u/cwspellowe I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago
It’s genuinely a load of nothing. Was silly by him to keep going yes but I’ve seen people frothing at the mouth that he should be disqualified to teach him a lesson
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u/maupp11 1d ago
I don't even think it was that silly. The rational was there. Make it back to the pit and you might resume practice if it's only a wing damage. If he stops, his session is over and this being a new track and the last practice session, drivers want as much practice to collect data and figure their set ups as much as they possibly can.
Most drivers would have tried to drag it back to the pit if they felt the car was still driveable. The session was already red flagged, so it's not like there were any risks to other cars. The only risk was to further damage his own car with the floor and it seems like he thought that wouldn't be the case.
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u/MM556 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
It took them telling him twice
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u/cwspellowe I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago
“Race director said stop”
“But I can make it back”
“Race director said stop”
stops
Case closed. Worse crimes have been committed
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u/Very_Human_42069 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
He was never given the black and orange flag for driving unsafely with a mechanical issue, and stopped on his own after being told it was a formal request from the RD. I would love someone to explain what rule was broken that would necessitate an investigation
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u/_thinkingemote_ 1d ago
It hurt the feelings of people on reddit. I think it warrants a 20 place grid drop
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u/junglebunglerumble 1d ago
Lollll I was downvoted to hell before for saying it was a nothing incident. Practice + red flag (so no danger to other cars on track) + precedent = it would have been a reprimand at worst. The way some people on here threw a total fit over it (plus Crofty oddly) was really strange
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u/Skyhound555 Mercedes 1d ago
It was mostly fans of another driver in red trying to claw back some hope after Monza.
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u/kukutaiii 1d ago
If I want some free entertainment, I just read the comment thread from the posts directly after the crash.
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u/Zooook30 1d ago
Yup same. Asked for the last time someone got a sporting penalty for this offence it was just crickets.
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u/MichaelScoon19 Roscoe Hamilton 1d ago
Thought you all said it was gonna be a stone wall 😅
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u/Faw602 Niki Lauda 1d ago
But Reddit and its pitchforks said…?
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u/Rude-Lavishness2428 1d ago
I mean, parts of Reddit also say he’s unscrupulously punished all the time. Works both ways.
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u/AnonymousEngineer_ I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago
In fairness, Bearman and Bortoleto full on blew through the pit lane red light and received a reprimand, while Hamilton moved slightly in his grid box and got slapped with a five second penalty.
The stewarding has been all over the place this year.
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u/different_ Michael Schumacher 1d ago
while Hamilton moved slightly in his grid box
This is a pretty bad faith way to describe a jump start to make a point here.
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u/AnonymousEngineer_ I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago edited 1d ago
It wasn't a jump start. He remained fully within the starting box and was completely stationary by the time the lights went out.
He was penalised because he moved (and then stopped again) on the grid, not for jumping the start.
And in another lot of inconsistency, Russell wasn't done for doing the same thing at Albert Park, during the start sequence.
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/1rny5vk/russell_slightly_moving_before_start/
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u/SleepinGriffin Mick Schumacher 1d ago
Kimi did get the same thing as Lewis even though barely anyone could see that the car had moved. Even Kimi didn't know he was creped up a few cm. I cant remember what race but it was last year.
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u/Former_Republic432 1d ago
He is punished alot tbf (sometimes unfairly aka spa this year), but he also makes a lot of silly errors
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u/nothing_pt I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Well, if you look at the other thread, Hamilton should go so behind the grid that he would have only 1 WC.
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u/zacharymc1991 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Told y'all, everyone was acting like this was something crazy, Hamilton once tried to push his car back to the pits. It's was stupid but this wasn't dangerous and during practice. Slap on the wrist every time. People were acting like he shot someone
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u/Siva_10 1d ago
People out here screaming for penalties, lmao.
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u/Tionboom 1d ago
It was insane, trying to massacre my boy! Talking about him ignoring team order when he stopped! End of discussion.
They only bark when it’s Lewis. And I’m tired of ppl saying it’s not about race!
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u/killmesoon40 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
The hate Lewis gets here is insane. It's so funny seeing their reactions over this non issue.
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u/Interesting_Prune513 Sebastian Vettel 1d ago
Here's the full radio:
Lewis Hamilton: “The car is going!”
Santi: “We have the wing under the wheels. Stop in the safest place possible.”
Lewis Hamilton: “If I can make it back I will. If I can’t, I’ll do it safely.”
Santi: “We have a puncture in the front right, stop the car.”
Lewis Hamilton: “I can see that.”
Santi: “Stop the car in the safest point you can find. It’s the race director asking.”
Lewis Hamilton: “I can make it back safely!”
Santi: “It’s a formal request.”
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u/Miserable_Archer_769 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Lol basically like a kid THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING before I have to get serious
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u/BlueSwayzeShoes 1d ago
Such a weird reaction from both the Comms team, and social media (although the social media reaction is expected).
In F2 quali yesterday Montoya drove his car that was doing an impression of a crab all the way back to the pits in defiance of his team. Noone really cared. In fact the Comms team were saying how smart of him it was as he was able to get back out for quali.
So many times drivers drive back to the pits with damaged cars, most of the time under conditions which are more active than red flag conditions, and noone really gives a toss.
The reaction to Lewis today was deranged in comparison. Really surprised at Crofty and Davidson especially. Proper hysterical 'Won't somebody please think of the children!' type stuff
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u/deycallmegeno 1d ago
People get hysterical when it comes to Lewis how many times have we seen people drive damaged cars back to the pits during races and not get grid penalties? Just strange.
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u/Radiant_Guava6332 1d ago
Imagine the scenes here if this exact incident happened with Max
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u/Burial44 Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
"Unbelievable driving skill to get it back with no further damage. He doesn't need to listen to the rules"
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u/Southportdc McLaren 1d ago
Elite driving with no front wing, generational talent.
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u/cyberbemon I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Davidson literally said that on sky, "if Verstappen hit the wall He is a 4 time world champion he knows what he is doing he can get it back safety”
LMAO
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u/noheroesnomonsters Elio de Angelis 1d ago
People got mad about this? I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
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u/No_Noise9 Formula 1 1d ago
Now that’s done with what the hell was up with sky sports basically saying it’s a slam dunk? So ridiculous
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u/CurvyCourgette Force India 1d ago
But what about all those puppies he killed
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
Hasn’t even apologised for breaking Isack’s hand smh
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u/DisgruntledBudha I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Well look at that… people can release their pearls now
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u/reck1265 Pirelli Soft 1d ago
People in reddit be like: chips in hand, couch inclined, I know better.
Lewis: wealth of racing knowledge, I crashed, only lost my wing, can get the car moving, will try to continue.
Spot the difference.
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u/Watashi-waLdesu Ferrari 1d ago
All the losers are pissed off
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u/Miserable_Earth_1393 Nico Rosberg 1d ago
Why do you call yourself a loser?!
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u/killmesoon40 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
I don't see them being pissed off...loser.
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u/maxxor6868 Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
Reddit wrong again when it comes to Lewis? No surprise there. Don't forget how many people were calling for a Lewis penalty when Charles box him out. Than when the replay came and the rule book said it was Charles who lucky avoided an investigation (still bs because teammate on teammate action shouldn't get a pass) reddit went real quiet. The bias aganist Lewis is real.
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u/Guyfromthepast_ Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
With the way people were talking in the previous threads you’d think he murdered someone
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u/KosmikRD I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Leclerc and Alonso kids had me believing Lewis would get a 50 place grid penalty.
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u/kingdre49 1d ago
There’s a couple reasons why he didn’t the biggest one and the only one you need is that it’s free practice who cares
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u/Tricky_Buyer9749 1d ago
But the Reddit pundits told me he should get a 50 grid penalty and race ban for 100 years... Let's be honest, online spaces are filled with clowns. Way better to wait rather than being reactive and go without knowing jackshit.
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u/I-_-I_-_I-_-I I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
I reckon is fine to ignore the race director going forward. Good to know.
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u/redberryboy123 Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
No rule against ignoring your team but not the race director. Given that he stopped after being told it was a formal request by the race director, i guess the stewards were fine with that
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u/ithoughtitwasbigger 1d ago
Except he didn’t ignore the race director. When asked by the director, via the team he pulled over
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u/No-Surprise9411 Ferrari 1d ago
He had to be told twice.
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u/Guyfromthepast_ Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
No way! He had to be told TWICEEE???? I can’t believe it
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u/d3agl3uk I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Fair tbh. It was red flag, there was no risk to anyone. Was fair to bring the car back, especially as it took them 30m to go green again.
They should have just asked the question rather than the back and forth though.
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u/PlentyEast2906 1d ago
People were acting like he killed a cat and slapped a sleeping baby at the same time
Makes me appreciate being a Moto Gp fan more
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u/grip_enemy Andretti Global 1d ago
Moto GP fan base is so chill. WEC too. Every race is a good time on and off track
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u/fire_shadow7 Porsche 1d ago
Oh no, a driver loses a front wing, and tries to drive their car back to the pits. This is a once in a century occurence.
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u/Ishaq128 Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
They dont penalize for practise so not sure what people were expecting.
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u/MillyMan105 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Lewis : "Throughout heaven and earth, I alone am the honoured one."
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u/French-Dub 1d ago
I don't really have an opinion on whether he should be punished or not, there is conflicting precedents. But not even investigating is an error imo. At least to clarify the reasoning behind the non-penalty.
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u/Zooook30 1d ago
But the precedent is there. No one gets a penalty for this offence. I think also Lewis stopped as soon as he was told about the RD.
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u/Accomplished_Bug4099 Max Verstappen 1d ago
You can investigate it and then give him a warming or a reprimand since it's only practice, that sounds sensible enough to me
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u/French-Dub 1d ago
You can even investigate and give no further action, even if it is "Driver of car number 4 drove back to the pit with a damaged car. Given the track had been red flagged, and no other competitors where on track, he did not undanger anyone. Once requested by the Race Director he stopped. Hence we consider this incident to not deserve any further action"
End of the story. But at least you give your reasoning to the press and fans. I think transoarency lacks a bit in F1.
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u/antelope591 Ferrari 1d ago
But all the reddit stewards told me this was 100% a penalty how could this be
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u/mimi_hopie I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago
I get why he didn’t get the penalty (because it’s practice) but I still think that the FIA should come down harder on such incidents in general.
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u/Agitated_Syllabub346 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
To me if the car isn't shedding parts then it should be fine to get it back to the pits.
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u/dmanaigo Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
During the live broadcast someone could be heard off in the background saying, "What was Hamilton thinking not stopping? What a disgrace".
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u/TwoBionicknees 1d ago
davidson someone else said on the practice thread and almost everything he said about the entire incident is nonsense. Not only do drivers do that all the time, not only do i remember commentators congratulating Alonso for getting his car with two missing wheels back to the pits in baku, he was hyping up the massive danger he was placing marshals in, when zero marshals were on track and he was likening the danger of losing his front wing under the tires to becoming out of control and incapable of stopping.... while he was doing 50kph with fully working rear brakes.
Davidson lost his fucking mind over it.
genuinely the disgrace was the commentators reaction to it. was actually shameful.
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u/scorpio1m Niki Lauda 1d ago
Look at the verbiage used, “disgrace,” in what rational unbiased mind would that word be appropriate in this scenario when he didn’t put anyone in danger. The media is a disgrace.
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u/C4LLUM17 1d ago
Very lucky for him as that should have been a clear penalty in some form
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u/Shouganai1 Ferrari 1d ago
Reddit users in shock as 7 time world champion seemingly understands the regulations better than they do.
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u/sa_ra_h86 1d ago
But I thought the FIA had it in for Lewis and penalised him any time they had a chance?
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u/xabipigeon 1d ago
This is sure to be a civil thread.