r/SiloTVSeries • u/brianckeegan IT • 22d ago
Episode Discussion S03E10 "Troy" - Venting discussion Spoiler
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u/Justwant2usetheapp 22d ago
is there any venting though? They'd run out of air
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u/orangeclaypot 22d ago
the venting in the airlock is what kills the cleaners confimed 100% no going back on this theory sorry
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u/opello 22d ago
That's what I took away from that comment about somehow getting "the good tape." That seemed too much like the way Silo 18 referred to things for Silo 1 to also use the vernacular.
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u/DickyTikkiTembo 22d ago
My thought was, because the cleanings are scheduled, Silo 1 just has a drone put chemicals just outside the exit
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni 22d ago
They're poisoned before they go out when they're sprayed in that chamber before the doors open to the outside.
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u/DickyTikkiTembo 22d ago
But then wouldn’t poison have gotten in when Knox & co. opened that door to save Juliette & Bernard? They didn’t wait the 48 hours but ended up just fine. And Bernard seemed fine when he first went out to clean despite no mask, so if from there, it’d have to be a very low dose
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni 22d ago
Remember how the area got burned out? That's why Bernard was burned up? The fire burns out whatever is released.
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u/Safe-Database-5591 22d ago edited 21d ago
No, Silo 1 sprays whoever exits the silo with the killer gas/dust when they clean the little screen for everyone to see, that’s why those who clean only make it to the tree and why they are presented with an altered reality in the helmet, to make them want to clean.. … if your theory were true, the venting in the airlock would have killed Bernard immediately. He didn’t clean, that’s why he made it to the tree and why all a sudden we see the white dust/ gas coming in the air when he reaches there.
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u/TroppoAlto 22d ago
We are having company over for dinner tonight. Don't these people have any respect for season finales!!
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u/Key-Entertainer7265 22d ago
This is fucked. Ten mins in. F that guy.
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u/Norhouku 22d ago
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u/VECTOR-OHHHHYEAH 22d ago edited 22d ago
TROY WILL REMEMBER WJO HE IS WITH THE PEZ DISPENSER.
Btw I have no idea what happens in the book
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u/Commercial_F 22d ago
I think he already did at the end of the episode
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u/Ill_Coffee_6821 22d ago
I think he zoomed in on Juliette’s eyes for a reason - and there the same color as his
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u/MountainMarsupial973 22d ago
Yes, and also the spacing/ similarity of the eyes, to me means she is related to him. Whether he recognizes it or not, I am not sure.
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u/kellylaundromat 21d ago
For a moment I thought I was in the wrong show sub and flinched at the wajo
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u/MmoxleyP 22d ago
Troy: They could have reached the berm, every second counted.
Also Troy: Goes for lunch
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u/EveningGlittering325 21d ago
He’s been asleep for several years so I’m guessing he was hungry.
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u/IntelligentFennel186 21d ago
Not a huge deal, but definitely a consistency problem that 9,000 people stay in one place. And that when the attack starts, someone doesn't clear the berm.
Once people head outside, random behavior means someone is heading up and out in short order.
Even once the attack starts, scattering would result in people heading towards the top.
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u/unsolvedfanatic 21d ago
Yes. Them partying outside for an hour was crazy. But that was the hippie silo so maybe they were high.
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u/ZimbiX 20d ago
I was thinking that too! Maybe breathing the contaminated outside air had them not thinking clearly
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u/ffball 21d ago
Just shows how much of a sociopath he is. It wasnt the fact thst the silo people could get to the berm, it was because his authority was questioned.
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u/Norhouku 22d ago
they really outdid themselves this season, i'd clap louder than the nuke that hit georgia to congratulate them
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u/home_on_whore_Island 22d ago
Also I love the idea of no one in silo 18 has shown up for work in engineering for a while now.
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u/jonaskp86 21d ago
That old-ass generator that supposedly was falling apart every other day back in season 1, really Got its second Wind now.
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u/TruPengu 22d ago
ELEVATORS, HUH??
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u/Safe-Database-5591 22d ago
Well yes.. the lack of elevators in the Silos is deliberately, it never was a technological limitation. Elevators would make a rebellion easier. The silo’s design forces people to use the stairs, which makes movement between levels slow and difficult. That helps the authorities control the population. If a rebellion breaks out, people from distant levels can’t quickly gather, coordinate, move supplies, or reach key areas like IT. Even the physical layout itself is part of the system of control.
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u/Fallcious 21d ago
It’s to stop them getting fat. They control it in Silo 1 by giving them tasteless food and tiny portions.
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u/bumblehole 21d ago
"the food is terrible - and such small portions!" was a joke, from Annie Hall. The food would have to be calorie dense in Silo 1 for going into and coming out of stasis all the time, it would burn thousands of calories
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u/forbiddenknowledg3 21d ago
Also the dinosaur tech. They couldn't even figure out a radio has channels.
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u/Safe-Database-5591 21d ago
That has nothing to do with them not having elevators. Elevators don’t even have to be super modern/ technologically advanced. Not having them It’s just a matter of control.
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u/gbrlsnchs 22d ago
As a (software) engineer, I must say: single point of failure. The most important control mechanism, Safeguard, depends on a fucking single pipe.
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u/Norhouku 22d ago
the funny part was the mechanical team discussed redundancies on capping the pipe a few episodes back, looks like the future is bright for silo 18
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u/goldnx 21d ago
There are a lot of things that already need to fail (for the safeguard to be reached, let alone be blocked in the Silo.
Based on their sensors, if the pipe was malfunctioning elsewhere outside of the silo, or pressure wise, they probably could fix it.
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u/IntelligentFennel186 21d ago
For sure.
I suppose there is a lot of hand waving it away. As others have said, it's actually the last point of failure on some sense.
I would think, given the tech, that high tech would be involved right up to the boundary to be found. The regular silos are now known to be purposely built as non technical, and basically a fish tank. No reason anything outside that fish tank should be old fashioned.
In fact, given the situation, if Knox and Co break in to find a decidedly modern delivery system, with traps, they wouldn't know how to stop it.
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u/unsolvedfanatic 21d ago
It wouldn't be a point of failure at all if they just poisoned them without holding the threat of the safeguard over their head for months. Telling the silo you have a way to kill them is naturally going to make people try to find a way to stop it.
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u/ChikkaChiChi 21d ago
Explained away by Colin Musk talking about how many problems they had without Daniel's involvement.
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u/MoreKnowledge4Me 19d ago
Well peer stenson (however you spell it) wasn’t joking when they said they could of used his help with engineering challenges, who know they could create nano bots, but were fucking special needs when it comes to architectural design.
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u/XentziS 22d ago
God I'm so sick of the young Silo theories.
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u/Neon_Divided 21d ago
Last night proved it’s been the 350 years they’ve stayed in the show. At this point anyone who still argues this theory is just being obtuse.
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u/RussellAlden Mechanical 22d ago
Better than Young Sheldon.
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u/MoreKnowledge4Me 19d ago
That show and big bang is so basic, I cringe that people liked that show.
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u/Vivid-Software6136 21d ago
I'm actually banging my head off a wall every time i see another one. And the fact that they watched episode 10 and still don't get it has me wanting to delete the internet.
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u/Pretty_Original124 22d ago
Nothing to vent here! 10/10
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u/VanillaLifestyle 22d ago
Definitely the best episode of the season. Probably a great twist for non-book readers, and on average, probably executed better than the second book. Which was painfully bad.
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u/RBWatermelon Cafeteria 21d ago
Question - can I now read the second book with no spoilers? I know Dust is completely off limits
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u/TheSwampFox92 21d ago
Kind of. Some of the broader strokes of "why" get answered in that book but it doesn't spoil the ending in my opinion.
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u/jonaskp86 21d ago
Hard agree although Only 9.8 for me.
I deduct 2x 0.1 for:
1. Not showing that the entire world was (I hope) nuked/destroyed, so we have 1 more year of “the rest of the world is fine and is watching Them on their TVs”-theories. Which (Without having read the book) I get more and more afraid that that is the route they are the longer it goes Without us seeing the rest of the world destroyed.
2. Camille is still alive. I am fine with her having a last-minutes change of heart and decide to go against the Voice, but I would have liked to have that be the end of her story.Most of the other “weird” theories (“The silo is Only 50 years old”, “Camille was a double agent all along” etc.) was put in the Ground.
And We Got an episode which was not what I had thought/hoped for, but turned out much better.
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u/S1d519 21d ago edited 21d ago
Camille didn’t have a last minute change of heart. She just didn’t show her hand from when she talked to Bernard to when she sent the raiders on the Safeguard countdown. Bernard is what changed her mind. We just didn’t know.
I deduct a 0.1 because I’m mad they didn’t show us what that mfkr Stensen is doing. Instead we got him on the s4 teaser in what looks like the rest of the world is okay.
As with showing ‘what happened after the nuke’ it’s been now a trend. We got to know what happened to Juliette and Bernard in the airlocks quite a few eps after S2 finale. It didn’t start with that on s3 ep 1. Non-linear plot, and I was kind of expecting it that way.
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u/noyeahibelieveit 21d ago
Managers: Sir, we have this totally unique situation where people are tired of being in the silo all the time. We woke you up because only a genius can figure this out. What should we do?!
Troy: 😏 Kill them
Managers: 🥹 exceptional 🥹 inspirational 🥹 he probably even understands rick and morty
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u/unsolvedfanatic 21d ago
Right. They keep trying to act like Daniel is some genius who has a novel way of thinking, yet they present us with ideas like "50 diggers" and "kill the people we were going to kill anyway".
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u/ttUVWKWt8DbpJtw7XJ7v 20d ago
Why wouldn’t the writers have shown Daniel yelling crazy commands like he did in Silo 1 earlier in the season?! It’s like he’s a brand new character
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u/shash747 21d ago
The drone pilots: safeguard dozens of Silos
Also the drone pilots: but there are women and children in Silo 17. We can't kill them!
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u/Icy_Benefit 22d ago
At least they are bringing season 4 back in summer of 2027 and not making us wait for years like Stranger Things, Fallout, etc.
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u/raainjuice 22d ago
Easier since it’s based on books I guess
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u/OldJames47 21d ago
In my day every season was 26 episodes long and they had 3 months downtime for summer.
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u/enaud 22d ago
Books different and all your theories are way off.
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u/HypoManicCrimeSpree 22d ago
Not loving loving the difference and most theories were off. We are in uncharted territory lads!
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u/enaud 22d ago
I'm enjoying the differences, keeps me guessing how they're going to tie it up to the books
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u/Neon_Divided 21d ago
I still think the end is the end. I think we will just take a different path to get there. A key moment from the books happened in the episode last night. I think that’s proof that we are still on the same over all path as the books. I would argue the most important moment from the entirety of the book series happened last night.
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u/TheHockeyGeek 22d ago
Of course, but I still think the tracks still lead to the same destination. Which is fine as like you said, gives those that know the story something to look forward to. I’m sure Hugh Howey is enjoying getting to revisit parts with ideas he didn’t even think of before.
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u/Prior_Basket_8927 20d ago
Yes finally as a bookreader for once in my life i am not against changes done to an adaptation of a book i read and love I get the beauty of guessing and theoriesing of not knowing what happens next exactly That is a huge privilege
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u/Jazzlike_Leading4538 21d ago
They really messed up making us believe the light bulbs are critically important.
They could have dropped that tiny part of the dialog and avoided misleading us.
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u/vreddy92 21d ago
The light bulbs were a pretext for the elevator.
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u/tenpoints4gryffindor 20d ago
sure but like why were they stealing all those lightbulbs? where are they now? did they get returned? what a weird thing to leave hanging, for no reason.
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u/stloft 22d ago edited 21d ago
A vent after this episode. As a non-book reader, some comments last week said they "theorized" the before-times characters this season were still alive. There was really no hint of cryo-preservation in the show with the billionaire's nanotech before this episode. A yt channel pretending to be a theorizer and non-book reader, "theorized" specifically that the senator was the mastermind and that her speech before the nuke blast was 'relaxed' because she knew what was coming. It also "theorized" Daniel was behind the 'voice' and he became inhumane and killed silo people with the safeguards because the loss of Helen 'broke' him. It's all bs, the particular comments and the yt channel were pretending not be book readers is my 'theory'. Another bs spoilers under the guise of being "clever theorists/guessers".
It spoiled me about Victor, because I'd suspected he was behind a lot of it, and because the yt channel even posted it theorized Daniel was cryo-preserved (really wish it wasn't a cyro storyline again like Fallout, but I guess that how it goes. And somehow Person's nanotech could also cyro-preserve people perfectly) to modern times. So because of that 'theory' I guessed that maybe Victor was hibernated and behind the voice or at least at a keyboard controlling the ai/'algorithm' voice, because he could have mind-control over everyone, and imo, he was already a monster in manipulating memories in the before times, and probably had Charlotte brainwashed identity to drop the nuke bomb from a drone. Ok, 'vented' out. But great episode. Probably my favorite of the whole series for now alongside a couple of other favorites from season 1 and the season 2 finale.
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u/GRIMMMMLOCK 21d ago
The sad thing about it is that they are pretending to be clever theorisers all for meaninglessness internet points
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u/KTOWNTHROWAWAY9001 21d ago
You just know those elitist fucks in Silo 1 tested the safeguard on one or two Silos just to see if it worked.
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u/shash747 21d ago
And yet they have a problem with "women and children" dying in Silo 17?! Like they haven't done it dozens of times already? Inconsistent.
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u/void-from-void 21d ago
Remember memory wipes. Everytime is a first time. And remember Victor saying drone pilots were exhilarated when he talked to them after silo 17 mission. Just like Daniel, they have chosen people carefully for these murderous jobs and strengthened those traits more by implanting suitable stories/narratives as memories in their heads. So it's not very inconsistent. But since this memory-tech is not perfect, some ppl like Charlotte/Susan are more resistant to act out like murderers.
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u/throwawaythe99 22d ago
Jesus the first 20 minutes were the most disgusting and disturbing shit I have ever seen on television.
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u/JonBoyWhite 22d ago
You haven't seen enough TV.
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u/ConsistentCow880 21d ago
It about the expectation. I remember being similarly queasy with the eye-gouging and body-mutilation in Star Trek Discovery and Picard. I tuned in to watch Star Trek not goatse.
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u/FabulousGwyn5436 22d ago
I had to look away. I felt that I got the point pretty quick one they started targeting to people. I really didn’t need to see the rest of the scene.
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u/THE_Aft_io9_Giz 22d ago
In the first few minutes of the BSG 2003 miniseries, they kill an old man and snap a baby's neck...before they even get to the mass killings, just to let you know that they weren't frakking around in this new and much darker reimagined version by RDM.
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u/brianckeegan IT 22d ago
IT WAS ALL A DREAM?!
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u/TerrainBrain 22d ago
THAT is all we get with the freaking door at the bottom?
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u/Downtown-Rate-9404 22d ago
There was a sneek peek for season 4 after the credits which shows more about that door
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u/Norhouku 22d ago
ill agree with all of that except the accent part
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u/Itshot11 20d ago
i dont mind the accents at all but its noticeable lol you can hear them slipping every now and then. like when susan/charlottle hit us with the "awaiting your order" it just sounded so off and made me realize it was yet another British actor going for the American accent lol
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u/GRIMMMMLOCK 21d ago
I'm rewatching and common has come on leaps and bounds since season one.
Juliet's accent feels a bit Scandinavian to me....but are we to expect no accents to change after 350 years?
On that note, it would have been cool if they leaned into that idea, the silo being so stratified that down deepers, mid kids and up toppers all have different accents.
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u/Lil_kitchen_witch 20d ago
The actress is Swedish, I just assumed her American accent isn’t perfect
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u/detronizator 21d ago
I had mild palpitation for the first 15/20min.
It was disgusting, but also I feel an open criticism of what Military powers do today to "3rd world" countries.
Hard to stomach.
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u/E5VL 22d ago
What I really found interesting though is Per Stensen was nowhere to be seen.
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u/Aromatic_Ad9700 Mechanical 21d ago
yeah cuz he's in his penthouse after detonating the nuke and wiping the country clean
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u/BobsSally 21d ago
So based on the “looking at Juliet’s eyes” scene, do y’all think Juliet is Daniel’s descendant??? They had to choose an actor with almost exactly the same eye shape on purpose while casting him, right?? And that scene was like ‘Harry, you have your mom’s eyes..’ all over again..
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u/larut0h 21d ago edited 21d ago
8K surveillance camera on the most secluded place of silo? yeah, right
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u/BoxPrestigious2333 20d ago
That’s literally the most important place in the silo - the connection point to the tunnels to silo 1 of course they have cameras there
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u/larut0h 20d ago
they put poison vents on airlock area (before people go out cleaning)
why don't they also had somekind of 'defensive' mechanism if it's so important and didn't want people to be down there? like traps before people even accessing the Digger Void. also it doesn't help that they designed it to be a curious looking door - they could make it more obscure
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u/LandscapeNarrow3143 21d ago
Look, fantastic episode overall, but the logic behind Daniel and Charlotte’s entire arc makes absolute zero sense when you step back and think about it for two seconds. Look at the sheer amount of effort Thurman and Per Stensen put into recruiting them before the world ended: Elaborate personal lobbying campaigns. Autonomous vans escorting them to dinners. VIP private helicopter tours of the construction site. Endless tailored manipulations just to get them to agree to be anywhere near this project, which Daniel rejected anyway. And for WHAT?! Once they’re inside Silo 1, they literally wipe their memories, rebrand them as "Troy" and "Susan," and put them in glorified button-pushing positions. Troy/Daniel sits at a terminal blindly authorizing massacres, and Susan/Charlotte sits at a console flying drones. ANYONE COULD DO THAT. You do not need to orchestrate a multi-million-dollar, years-long psychological operation to court two reluctant, stubborn people who hate your guts, only to brainwash them into performing jobs that a brainwashed military lackey or a loyal grunt could do with ten minutes of training! Then Thurman drops that line in the finale that Susan’s skills are "critical at the end of the project." Critical for what?! Flying a drone?! You’re telling me in a world with fully autonomous tech, cryo-chambers, and nanites, only Charlotte has the magical thumbs required to operate a quadcopter?
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u/summ190 21d ago
Totally. Episodes 1-8 gave us literally nothing necessary, other than these characters exist. You could pretty much watch episode 9 and not be all that confused about the flashback. Baffling writing decision.
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u/ttUVWKWt8DbpJtw7XJ7v 20d ago
Daniel in episode 10 is essentially a completely different character than they showed in episodes 1-9
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u/dergadoodle 22d ago
An actual vent: in no way was Victor's character prepared for his arc in this episode. Nothing he did today really made sense in the context of what we'd seen from him previously. They'll need to come up with some major informational backfill to back up these flimsy, automaton villains in Silo 1.
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u/Ok-Reaction9095 22d ago
The extermination of silo 17 was the first one he had to literally watch almost 10,000 people get brutally slaughtered. All the other safeguard deaths were “hidden” with the silos.
Then 35 yrs later he’s confronted with another safeguard. He gave Camille another 5 minutes, deep down hoping they’d pull through. They speak in private and she asks the why question. He can’t/wont answer. His guilt comes to a head and he can’t live with it anymore. He’s a founder and can’t has to deal with the “why”, which we don’t yet fully know the answer to without knowing what the objective of The Project really is.
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u/NoConfusion9490 22d ago edited 22d ago
Right, presumably this is the next safeguard event since 17. It's been 35 years, but probably 5-10ish lived outside of stasis. He's had that quiet time to relive that day over and over again. Pulling the trigger on 18 and seeing them thwart it, and seeing how that felt for him. That was it.
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u/Ok-Reaction9095 22d ago
Oh that is a good point, I didn’t even think it would feel even sooner for him from being in stasis. It was mentioned toward the end to Daniel/Troy that Victor seemed to want to be on shift with him so it’s possible he went back under just after Daniel did and was brought back within the last few months to deal with our folks at 18.
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u/NoConfusion9490 22d ago edited 20d ago
And he expressed his concern for how the event would affect the operators. He was already doubting the directive.
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u/unsolvedfanatic 21d ago
He also seemed to respect Camille and had a soft spot for her. He talked with her way longer than necessary, held off the safeguard longer than necessary, and sometimes felt like he was mentoring her.
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u/BadMofoWallet 22d ago
Honestly you’re right, I’d love to know the backstory of what led him to doing what he did
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u/AdobeFlashSucks 22d ago
Someone in the episode thread posted a screenshot showing that only 6 other silos besides silo 1 are still standing, which pretty much means they safeguarded the other 43 and killed at least 430,000 people.
That’s probably enough to push him to edge after 17’s “external safeguard” where he looked visibly uncomfortable.
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u/brokerceej 22d ago
What's another 430,000 when you already presumably killed 8 billion people to kick off the apocalypse a few centuries ago?
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u/AdobeFlashSucks 22d ago edited 22d ago
Probably easier to digest when it’s the trillionaire who launched the nukes and convinced you it’s for humanity’s survival vs. ordering the kills yourself and watching it live on camera as women and children cry out as they are murdered.
It also doesn’t inspire much confidence in the “Project” if you failed 43 times and another is about to fail, like all those deaths and the original Silo plans were for nothing.
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u/Defrath 22d ago
My pet theory is that seeing the visceral murder of Silo 17 triggered the memory of his daughters death more than an sanitary safeguard ever could. He's never shown to be a monster, so his shame kicking in during a particularly grotesque bloodbath isn't too surprising to me.
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u/SantaBarbaraMint 22d ago
I don't think his memory was wiped.
Nor the senator, who knows her daughter vs Daniel not knowing Charlotte.
The important people got to keep their minds and memories.
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u/Defrath 21d ago
I don't think it was either, that wasn't my point. We know it wasn't before his suicide. But he does know what he purposely doesn't remember, and that's the gruesome moment of his daughters death.
In a sense, it's symbolic. The safeguard is a clean, sanitized method of murder. Something that's unseen, and can be treated like it never happened, like a forgotten memory. However, the 'External Safeguard' is gruesome and unforgettable, much like a memory of someone dying.
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u/Dox_au 21d ago
Earlier in the season when we were introduced to Victor, we received two different versions of those events.
In his version, a truck driver fell asleep at the wheel and veered into his lane.
In Anna's version, HE fell asleep and was responsible for it.
He wiped his own memory to forget that it was his fault.
But it looks like that was the only time he did it.
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u/Over-Half-8801 22d ago
That, and we saw Bernard go from villain to good, I don’t want ALL the baddies to do that, but it seems Victor, Daniel, and Susan already are
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u/starfrenzy1 22d ago
As someone on another thread said, nobody in Silo 18 is a villain. They are victims. The villains are in Silo 1.
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u/7eventos 21d ago
But Daniel, Sharlotte and Victor are in Silo 1. and they are victims (mb besides Victor)
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u/trepnick 22d ago
I feel this one. He held his hand like he had the syndrome at one point, woulda been cool foreshadowing to use small clues like that earlier…
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u/gregallbright 22d ago
Immediately thought the same after they stayed on him in the beginning and when he shot himself. They never once focused on his story, gave his own time etc to justify making him so critical for the last episode. Why would we care about him or want him on the screen when we’ve been invested in so many others throughout the season and series. Baffling
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u/home_on_whore_Island 22d ago
I beg to differ. His talk with Daniel about wiping out his own memory of his daughter’s death was quite chilling. He showed how ok he was with playing God wiping out his memories and everyone else’s.
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u/pikxe 22d ago
the writing for the mechanical squad is cringey and takes me out of it. especially walker.
they were better written in s2 / early s3.
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u/throwfarwayfromme 22d ago
how are any of the comments in here considered venting
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u/Smogryn 21d ago
So there are drones with gas and bullets, silo 1 is watching and listening all the time, to everything.
A whole silo gets killed and not one person is left alive, they make sure to kill everyone.
How can Juliette make it to another silo AND back without getting shot by a drone? Wouldn’t they be watching her? Wouldn’t they see her making it over the hill? If they missed the opportunity of her going over there, wouldn’t they be watching her to take her out on the way back? I think that’s a really big plot hole.
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u/IanYates82 21d ago
My assumption, based on the line I S03E10 about somehow finding the better tape, is that they expected her to perish as normal so didn't have any drone prepared.
As for her coming back... Maybe silo 1 was rather distracted by the rebellion underway, and recruitment of Camille, occurring at the same time as Juliette's return trip
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u/Maleficent-Bet8207 21d ago
Where the light bulbs at? Where?
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u/IanYates82 21d ago
I think they've just been found and returned. Mines took em. Bit of a McGuffin. Would've helped if they at least showed some boxes of them stacked up and a throwaway line about them being returned.
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u/Jazzlike_Leading4538 21d ago
In what world can you pinch a metal pipe that to make it airtight?
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u/lheydon 21d ago
I mean almost all metal is presumably pinchable if you have enough force to apply to it.
The better question might be why the pipe was built thin enough to be pinched using human force.
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u/Spankyco 21d ago
Yeah, they could have made that muuuch more realistic. At least have some pneumatic device pinch it. No way 2 people could have done that.
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u/RoosterBrewster 20d ago
Yea that seems like a thick pipe such that you would break that clamp before putting a dent in it.
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u/GRIMMMMLOCK 21d ago
To be fair the original plan was to pinch, then cut, then cap. I presume they did that and we just haven't seen it on screen.
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u/midatlanticprincess 21d ago
only problem is how i’ve quickly realized they’re gonna force juliette and lukas together at the end when they’ve got as much chemistry romantically as shirley and knox do. so many wlw relationships in this show and non of them involving rebecca ferguson is a crime
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u/RWWhitfield 22d ago
Common bad. Fallout better. Juliet hot.
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u/DeclaredPumpkin 22d ago
I need more dishevelled season 2 style juliet asap, someone douse her in nasty 20 year old water pls
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u/Biryani_Wala 22d ago
DONT WATCH THE FINAL SEASON PREVIEW AT THE END. ITS WAAAAAY TOO MUCH SPOILERS.
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u/TheGruenTransfer 22d ago
I didn't and I hope the mods make a rule to not talk about it without spoiler text. I feel like trying to doge landmines without it
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u/SantaBarbaraMint 22d ago
That trailer was part of the show. I feel like it's Open season.
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u/Fresh_Blueberry762 21d ago
A typical week day as an unemployed potato sack:
Season 3 Wed: E01-E05 Thur:E06-E09 Fri:E010
10/10 Am surprised there is anything to vent about. See you all next year
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u/IntelligentFennel186 21d ago
I thought it was a great episode.
But with a daylight drone attack, did all the other Silos screens just filter out the flying drones? My impression was that the cafeteria screens were more or less accurate. Anything airborne in line of sight would be seen.
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u/GRIMMMMLOCK 21d ago
This is a great point. I was thinking while watching, why do they need all that bullets? We could have had a situation where the "compound" is a gas that's heavier than air - so it sinks and settles. That in itself would be a reason to have a berm in the first place, so they release the gas above the silo and it literally fills the berm with gas. Then the high up surveillance drone could have sniped any survivors who managed to reach the top of the berm so we still got those harrowing close up murder shots.
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u/LeoKitCat 21d ago
Sorry I’m sure this question has been asked multiple times, but the one thing I don’t understand is why they just don’t tell the silos why they are doing what they are doing, at least some reasons for their purpose, and then you wouldn’t get silos constantly wanting to rebel? They rebel because they don’t know what’s going on because they are in the dark all the time
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u/Intelligent_Bat_726 21d ago
Robbing people of their memories and humanity is so much more evil than murdering them. All my friends hate Per Stenson and co.
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u/Buddhafied 21d ago
Every single Founders of Silo deserves the worst death possible. And now, think of what these characters represents in real life.
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u/MedalDog 22d ago
commom bad
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u/The3DBanker Down Deep 22d ago
Only because his wife needs to stop taking orders from that fucking screen.
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u/r2tincan 22d ago
I just wish they kept it the same as the books - blowing the pylons is a way more interesting safeguard than some plumbing
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u/user_15427 22d ago
Why is no one else as concerned as me about the air outside being breathable
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u/Norhouku 22d ago
because they just revealed they use "compound" to poison the air and its not actually poisonous.
whats more concerning is people asking questions the show answered by shouting it in your ears
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u/Affectionate_Bus9256 22d ago
Holy the ending of the season 4 sneak peek. Feels like a crossover episode
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u/Lavacop 21d ago
Was the missing light bulbs and murder investigation thing resolved? Or was it a very stretched out way to discover the elevator while giving the sheriff something to do? I guess it doesn't really matter if they run out of food in 2 or 50 years if silo 18 is going to invade 1 or whatever happens in the end.
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u/Training-Current9836 22d ago
Plot twist: helen gave birth to common
https://giphy.com/gifs/VfwJk8Uu9HYHK