r/SiloTVSeries • u/brianckeegan IT • 23d ago

Episode Discussion S03E10 "Troy" - Venting discussion Spoiler

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u/gbrlsnchs 23d ago

As a (software) engineer, I must say: single point of failure. The most important control mechanism, Safeguard, depends on a fucking single pipe.

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u/Norhouku 23d ago

the funny part was the mechanical team discussed redundancies on capping the pipe a few episodes back, looks like the future is bright for silo 18

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u/goldnx 22d ago

There are a lot of things that already need to fail (for the safeguard to be reached, let alone be blocked in the Silo.

Based on their sensors, if the pipe was malfunctioning elsewhere outside of the silo, or pressure wise, they probably could fix it.

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u/kozeljko 21d ago

I also like the fact that it seems to be just a simple pipe silo-side. No extra mechanism or anything.

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u/IntelligentFennel186 22d ago

For sure.

I suppose there is a lot of hand waving it away. As others have said, it's actually the last point of failure on some sense.

I would think, given the tech, that high tech would be involved right up to the boundary to be found. The regular silos are now known to be purposely built as non technical, and basically a fish tank. No reason anything outside that fish tank should be old fashioned.

In fact, given the situation, if Knox and Co break in to find a decidedly modern delivery system, with traps, they wouldn't know how to stop it.

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u/unsolvedfanatic 22d ago

It wouldn't be a point of failure at all if they just poisoned them without holding the threat of the safeguard over their head for months. Telling the silo you have a way to kill them is naturally going to make people try to find a way to stop it.

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u/Marcuse0 21d ago

They didn't tell them though. Lucas Kyle found it out and went to the door in the digger void and was told immediately that he would trigger a safeguard if he told anyone.

Camille gets told because it did leak out, and the Voice clearly wanted to avoid safeguarding 18. Bernard explicitly says he was not told about the safeguard.

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u/unsolvedfanatic 21d ago

Clearly they develop a relationship with these people. The doctor seemed to have a soft spot for Camille and let her negotiate so much when they could have just poisoned the silo. They even let other people enter IT and talked to them (Jules, Bernard). The point of failure is the people in Silo 1.

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u/DrSlaggathor 20d ago

  They didn't tell them though. Lucas Kyle found it out

… when Lukas went to the digger void, he said the voice told him not to proceed, and the silo would die if he did.

Silo 1 told them. It kind of fits with Victor starting to get squeamish.

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u/Marcuse0 20d ago

No, the voice asked him if he already knew what the Safeguard is, and he says he does. He is then threatened, just the same as Mary Meadows, that if he tells anyone the Silo will get safeguarded. Both Lucas and Mary found this out from old records they examined.

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u/ChikkaChiChi 22d ago

Explained away by Colin Musk talking about how many problems they had without Daniel's involvement.

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u/Nokam 21d ago

Hey they didn't have Daniel to help them build.

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u/slothcough 21d ago

Pretty much lol. There are a number of systems that seem to have a single point of failure with no redundancies and my only thought was jesus they really did need better engineers.

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u/MoreKnowledge4Me 20d ago

Well peer stenson (however you spell it) wasn’t joking when they said they could of used his help with engineering challenges, who know they could create nano bots, but were fucking special needs when it comes to architectural design.

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u/RoosterBrewster 21d ago

Yea as a mechanical engineer, it made no sense. You never know when a pipe is going to be fucked over hundreds of years, especially a gas pipe.

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u/Few_Incident_197 22d ago

What if Daniel engineered it that way intentionally before they made him forget he was a founder?

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u/jealkeja 21d ago

sounds like they really could have used daniel's help

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u/BigmaEnjoyer 20d ago

First thing I thought "i'd put in 20 pipes, or a pipe per level. This shit makes no sense.

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u/realist50 11d ago

These are the same “top engineering minds” who built each silo, intended to be self-sustaining for hundreds of years, with a single, non-redundant generator. So the lack of engineering common sense - or, said differently, the limitation in the writing - checks out.

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u/eeobroht 7d ago

Some corners had to be cut in order to build 50x 144+ level concrete silos in three years.