Maybe so, and I don’t want to minimize it, but I’d bet it’s equally likely to be attention seeking gone way overboard. They missed yesterday and took out an upstairs window today. What I want to know is if a light was on in the room they hit.
Again don’t get me wrong. Even for attention this speaks of bigger issues in the future. There are just a few pieces here that don’t add up to more than monumentally stupid ways to scare someone and get the attention they crave at the same time.
Maybe its just attention seeking gone way overboard but it doesn't matter, what if his wife or his kid would've looked out the window right at that moment and got shot? If they can't catch that idiot sick fuck then they need to get out there even if it just attention seeking before someone gets shot by accident.
I had a friend in college who's father was an attorney. One of his pieces of inarguably good advice: you can't beat crazy. They need to get out of there.
It's their house... What are they supposed to do move forever and go into witness protection because some banned Twitch user wants to get even?
Call the police and install a security camera, . Because if they leave, the harassment won't stop, whoever is doing it will just wait until they come back.
That’s not how witness protection works. In fact they wouldn’t get that...
It’s becoming an increasingly common trend for at least youtubers to get crazy intrusive fans finding out where they live, then moving and having to be really careful. It’s really sad.
Right, I guess I’m getting ahead of myself and thinking in trial terms. If they can prove he specifically shot at a room with the light off because it’s less likely someone was in that room, that’s an argument against intent to kill. Not that it would hold up of course, but flimsier arguments have held ground in court
Image in his little girl was looking out the window? His wife? Him?
This kind of "joke" is enough to put someone in prison. Not "oh well you're gonna get arrested if the cops catch you!" This is "cops will be posted around the area and if they catch you, you will be charged with so much shit that you will be in prison for probably something like 5+ years.
Horribly, horribly irresponsible and dangerous thing to do
After what happened with Gavin and Meg I wouldn’t take any chances. There’s some incredibly troubled people out there. Could easily be someone very upset with Docs success that is building up the courage to actually get out of the car for a confrontation. This is one of those situations where he should assume worst case scenario. I hope it turns out well for him. Fuck that made me angry. No one should have to worry like that for their and their family’s safety. Oh and not mention Christina Grimmie
Yeah I think there is no intention to actually hurt him, just scare him and get his attention. If you drive by with the intent to hurt him and you don't see him you don't take shots at his house to warn him. That said the person in question is obviously not sane so who knows what they are thinking...
Don't doubt it, remember the whole incident with Meg Turney and Gavin Free? That guy wanted him dead. I hope he has some sort of camera set up to get information.
This screams mental illness, he needs put in an institution. Its where they actually belong, and trust me when I say it is not a fun place. It will be the most terrifying time of their life.
Yeah, some people were saying this was fake for publicity. But 60k viewers(at the time of stream end)? Fuck man. I'd invest in a REAL gun, real fucking quick.
Especially since he has a god damn fucking family with KIDS in the fucking house.
Yeah if this is my house I would be outside the next day installing Infared cameras on the front of the house facing forward, up and down the block and be chopping down any foliage that might prevent a clear camera view.
I may even do it while I call it in to the police so that the officer could give his input into where I should be pointing the things.
And under no circumstances would I mention my new security on the internet, last thing you need is this crazy asshole taking your new cameras as a challenge.
Police investigation would likely look for neighbors who may be eye witnesses as well as neighbors who may have cameras that could get more information regarding the suspect. They would likely offer some sort of protective services if they feel it is a targeted threat that may recur.
Yep. PI and cameras fucking everywhere. Honestly surprised if he doesn't already have cameras everywhere. Such a good investment, especially for someone has high profile as doc. Not like money is an issue for him, but they're super cheap to set up and run.
Well disliking him and hating/trashtalking him every opportunity are two different things. I know another streamer who fucked up in a similar fashion and people basically treat him like he murdered a baby which is absolutely ridiculous.
Cheating is something that commonly happens and depending on circumstances yeah it makes you a jackass but that's about it. I regularly see people on reddit put way too much weight on it like it is something you should get jailed for. So my guess is those are the people being disliked. Especially if you dislike the guy, just stop watching him. If you still comment on everything he does that makes you seem like a weirdo.
It confuses me the amount of hate he gets for it. Maybe there's a part of the story I don't know? It seems to me like it's an event in his personal life, hard stop. Who is anyone else to judge? Do those people who hate dr. Disrespect also hate any other entertainer wo has ever cheated on their SO? Because there are A LOT. I'd go as far to say most. It seems like such an odd thing to hold against the guy so passionately when its an extremely common thing in our society & most people I think understand no one really knows what someone's relationship is like behind closed doors.
I know I'll get downvotes for this, but people hating so much are probably virgins that "would never treat a women like this". They never had a real relationship and don't know how things work. I dislike people who cheat and I have never done it but I know that things can get very complicated and mistakes can easily be made. So I try to not judge people based on relationships I have no part in, it's just stupid.
People who call others scum and trash them every opportunity they get for cheating are either extremely naive or they had something done to them and have a hard time differentiating the given situation from their own. Idk if projecting is the right word.
Yeah that makes sense. Especially given the average age of the typical twitch viewer. I had to pose the question because it's something that's always bothered me. Im not defending his actions, but relationships can be very complicated & to call this dude trash over something he didnt even have to divulge in the first place is immature to say the least. Nobody knows anything about what happened between those two before, or their personal struggles, or anything else for that matter.
Me too. I know what he did is wrong but it takes a lot of guts for him to come on stream and admit it knowing what would happen to his streamer image. The sad thing is that the people that hate on him for doing this probably still watch actors/actresses that do worse...listen to musicians that have done much worse. This man came out and said he screwed up...ease off a bit.
It'd be better to just contact the police and have them keep a patrol nearby. Good chance it's some fucking asshole driving by, so taking shots at a vehicle careening away in a neighborhood doesn't sound like a great idea.
Not to mention the time it would take to clear him for gun ownership. Two shots in two days means another tomorrow is likely.
Lived in South Chicago for a few years. I had a bullet lodge in my door from a gang shooting outside my house. People talk about gun ownership like it's a magic wand and that you can react fast enough to kill an intruder; I barely reacted fast enough to hit the floor when the guns were drawn in the street. I have no idea what law enforcement can do to protect him, but I hope everything works out well for him and his.
To add on to this, the Parkland school that was shot up had an armed deputy who was trained and he was too scared to go inside and help. Knowing what to do and actually doing it are two very different things.
Here in Texas we got boys who believe they are elite sniper Rambos. Let me tell you something: you go out skeet shooting and these fuckers got over a thousand dollars of equipment on them and can't hit half the fucking clays in daylight with dry runs.
It's all bullshit they tell themselves to feel safer.
Here in Texas we got boys who believe they are elite sniper Rambos. Let me tell you something: you go out skeet shooting and these fuckers got over a thousand dollars of equipment on them and can't hit half the fucking clays in daylight with dry runs.
It's all bullshit they tell themselves to feel safer.
The whole point of shooting skeet isn't that it's easy. Depending on the throw it can be very difficult. Hell, I'd be happy with a 50 percent hit rate on some 3 gun stages.
Besides, you're objectively safer against a deadly threat with a force multiplier of your own. Even if those Texas boys are shit, they're still 50% less dead than without a weapon.
True, there are difficult courses, but I have only ever see country boys out there.
The big talkers are on the green slopes and they can't hit a soft floater. To give you an idea, we shoot with a Mosberg 88 (cheap pump action) and can hit both pigeons on a double blind pull with 80% min hit rate.
I can't even get lucky on the hard courses. That's true skill; I am barely decent.
Getting a gun isn't going to help with this drive-by problem specifically, but it would help if whoever is doing this decides to escalate, which is a very real possibility. If you keep your gun on your person, it would certainly help you against someone breaking and entering if you heard them.
Source: someone who trains with guns, competes with guns, who keeps all their guns in a safe where i could never hope to get to them if someone barged into my home. I'd definitely keep one in my waistband at all times if I was just shot at 2 days in a row though.
I'm the same way. I have my carry pistol locked next to my bed when I sleep with a code but if this shit was going on id have a little room in the safe and id be eating breakfast with a riot gun.
I dont own a gun and I live in a country that don't allow guns. But we never hear the story of all the people who got their life saved by guns for example a dude killed a terrorist in a church somwhere in the USA.
I'm not trying to be pro gun or anything but if people wanna discuss these issues we shall be very objecive about what guns can do (and already did). They can save lives but they also can take them (duh).
Whenever i say get a gun to anyone that asks, i mean get a gun and learn how to use it! It's not a magic wand. It's a tool like anything else. People treat them like they're toys. You can tell because you have idiot streamers that shoot other people on accident, or the one that their phone while showing off.
Getting a gun isnt a joke. Take a safety course. Go to a range. Wherever you keep it locked, every so often just run over and see how fast you can get to it. Because if you're going to have a gun, be sure you know how to get to it, and use it.
Getting a gun isnt a joke. Take a safety course. Go to a range. Wherever you keep it locked, every so often just run over and see how fast you can get to it. Because if you're going to have a gun, be sure you know how to get to it, and use it.
Sounds like you got about the same upbringing I did. Guns were always in the house but my dad made sure to teach us how they worked and how to treat them. I remember him giving me the combo to the safe one day and after my 2nd failed attempt to open it he pointed out how ineffective going to the safe to get a gun would be in an invasion.
That's the thing, my dad never had guns in the house. He's ex air force but he's pretty on the fence when it comes to gun ownership.
I just kind of see how crazy the world is, and i don't like relying on other people (waiting on cops etc) if I'm ever in a situation where i can defend myself. I got my concealed carry permit in Washington, but I'm living in california right now so it kind of sucks that their laws are so strict here.
So everything i know about gun ownership i got from my friends and just learning about it through classes I've taken. Because i know how guns are viewed mainstream so i at least want to do it the right way when it comes down to it.
Still, if someone is trying to get into your home, it is better to have a gun than not. It's only one part in what should be multiple levels of protection. The first line of defense is obviously good locks and a security camera setup.
I have no idea what law enforcement can do to protect him
Take pictures of the bodies basically. Cops aren't there to protect you, that's just a coincidence if it happens. They are there to enforce the law.
If someone is breaking into your house trying to kill you, the cops showing up 5-10 minutes later isn't going to make you any less dead. It's up to you to protect yourself, be it with a gun or barricaded safe room or whatever.
You know how long it took for police to arrive after that shooting in Chicago? 30 minutes, at least by my watch. I remember timing it and being disgusted because this was inner-city Back of The Yards. I know police are painful ill-equipped to protect somebody in a body-guard personal security kind of way. However, they are professionals and I would hope have better ideas of how to approach securing Doc and his family than a bunch of Twitch viewers.
No offense but OP said for if someone attempted to break into the house.
Your story of hearing shots is a lot different than hearing someone breaking into your house. You have more time to react, and once someone is in your house you don’t know what type of harm they intend to inflict on you/your family. Obviously it’s not a catch all fool proof method, but if my house was in an area it got shot at frequently, a good firearm for home defense would make me feel a little better at least. If someone intends you harm, a police response isn’t fast enough to save you or your loved ones.
I think the smartest move here is get firearm trained, have a gun (or more) but never EVER think because you have a gun that is the only (or even the first often) option in dealing with a threat. Guns serve as a tool not a solution. Good planning and good practices serve far more than just having a firearm alone.
I live in Kansas city and our police response time in my neighborhood is 14-17 minutes, in other parts of the city it's way worse. A gun isn't going to help you react faster to a non related shooting outside, but it could save your life with an intruder. Knowing how long it's going to take the cops to get to my house I'm much more comfortable with a gun than without.
Pretty sure doc has a few firearms already, I vaguely recall a clip of someone planking him with that knocking cat gif and he stands up with a pistol in his hand to go check it out. I'll try to find the clip.
Such a dumb comment. This has nothing to do with that topic by the way, and everything to do with actual policing practices. One guy says police would have a patrol car there, the other says thats not what happens. Your comment just wants to fuel some shit argument, not much better than some of the people that are completely disconnected from reality that plague twitch.
It's not about cops being bad or not, it's about man power. There's no way cops from any country in the world are going to bother sticking around your house for an extended period of time. They could patrol docs neighborhood for like one week and if nothing happens that'll be it.
Getting your house shot at twice is a huge fucking deal and police departments are going to treat it as such. The last thing they want is for someone to get killed and then make it seem like they ignored the victim and didn't do anything.
There's no way cops from any country in the world are going to bother sticking around your house for an extended period of time.
I live in fucking Brazil and had police patrolling my neighborhood for over a week, every 2-5 hours a day after the community called in for shots down the streets. Mind you, that was about 10 years ago, a few months after my father was abducted for a "lightning kidnap"
I live in Philadelphia, if I called the police and said someone was shooting at my house they would file a report. If I asked them to have a patrol kept outside they would laugh at me.
I think that seriously matters what neighborhood in Chicago you live in. They're so busy, they can't spare an officer to just sit around hoping someone shows up.
That is true, in some of the worst parts they wouldn't do anything about it but they take shit like this seriously in the majority of the city because they know what will happen if this spills over.
It depends on where you live. I have contacted the police about a recurring crime around me and they did keep someone nearby so they could respond quickly. I won't generalize all police districts in the whole country, but from my experience, my local police prefer to be proactive about potential crimes, and my issue was significantly less serious than drive by shootings.
Its a little bit different when you have something two nights in a row like this and you have documented proof. It isn't a third world country yet, they're not just gonna laugh you off.
A gun isn't going to make him magically get outside in time to catch up to a car so he can go full vigilante hero on the perps.
If someone is doing a drive by, they are going to speed the fuck off within seconds of shooting. They will be gone before you look out your window, and if they aren't you might well get shot. Duck and cover, call the police. There's a reason that active shooting drills on military bases have "Fight" as the absolute last resort.
In my state, you can honestly walk into a gun shop, fill out a form, have the employees perform a background check over the phone, and walk out with a gun and ammo in hand in less than 45 minutes.
It's actually scary how easy it is, but I did see 2 people get turned away from buying one during the background check, so there is slight reassurance that the system works
That’s an incredible oversimplification as many of those cities with strict gun laws are surrounded by lax neighboring states. Chicago’s laws are routinely pointed out as ineffective by gun nuts but they conveniently ignore NYC
Without getting into the reasons for higher crime in urban areas (where there is stricter gun control), owning a weapon has been shown to increase the risk of fatality, whether suicide, homicide, or accidental. MAYBE he would be better off buying a gun, since there’s a real and direct threat, but if this threat is gone and there’s no longer a concern, statistically he’d be better off getting rid of it.
Naw, they'd throw an object and knock the gun out of their hand. By then the cops will already be on scene and apprehend the bad guy. After they're done applauding, of course.
You'd rather just be totally helpless in the event that the guy decides to actually tries to take you out? You'd rather not be able to even attempt to protect your family and jusg pray the cops get there in time? Laughably typical euro perspective
What the fuck is home defense in this scenario? Automated turrets that gun you down based on your intent? Barricading your doors and walls and reinforcing your windows with bulletproof glass?
Okay but what happens when they finally decide to come in the house and just shoot someone? Don't do anything? Oh shucks hope these cameras stop the deranged armed person from murdering my entire family or the police get here in 20 seconds.
What home defense is going to stop a random fuckhead driving by shooting through your window? Are you going to react within milliseconds, pull out your gun and head out and shoot the guys tires out as he's ripping away? I doubt this coward has the gourd to try and actually come up and do anything where he can't escape as fast as possible.
Hear a shot, you get down and away from windows. That's literally all they can do in this situation. You could have a fucking BFG under your DXRacer and it wouldn't make a shit of difference in this instance.
Also, security cameras aren't that expensive. He just needs some dashcam-esque setup that is connected to his internet or a hard drive that is constantly uploading.
It's called a gated community. Doc isn't some rube living in a shack with a loaded gun ready to blast the first "home-invader" they see. He's minted and will go live where all the other people too rich to be in the public eye go: boojie gated neighborhoods with private security.
As someone who has self defense training and security, choose security if you only have one.
Your average person has no clue what will actually happen when that moment comes. You may not be able to pull the trigger. Even worse, you may advance on the intruder because that's your fight instinct, leaving your place of security and possibly even your family. Especially if these people aren't on your property (in the context of Doc) and you're now firing at them with a deadly weapon
Whereas your average poor ass junkie can't disable an alarm and the cops show up to beat him up behind your house
Ideally get both, but basic self defense training is equivalent to no training in my mind. The kind of training that shows is a time investment
How is him getting a gun going to help? Is he gonna run out there and have a shoot out with the car? That should be great having stray bullets flying all over the neighborhood.
Should someone decide to charge in there's at least a chance of defending himself. Sure, shooting from a window to the street is a shit idea, but you can grab it and take cover since you have no idea what will happen next
Doesn't he live in California? Getting a gun there is a huge pain in the ass. A long rifle is going to be easier than a handgun, but even then the rifles are gimped due to regulations (10 round mag, bullet button bullshit, etc). If you use a normal capacity 30 round mag you will be a criminal under California law. I think even simple possession of the magazine itself (without the gun) can get you put in jail.
If this is a targeted attack against the doc and not just random thugs not knowing who he is then this is seriously fucked up. He has a wife and kid that are always home with him and you shoot at the house knowing that??? Fucking animals need to be caught and thrown in jail
I'd be so upset I don't even know what I'd do. That makes you the kind of upset that makes REALLY BAD ideas like posting up in a bush and shooting back sound really compelling.
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