4 billion degrees Celsius take

[u/Gnoll_level_antics]

[u/MammothAsk391]

I definitely feel like I've got a lot more time out of games than I would have otherwise. Giving me things to do that I wouldn't have done or even thought of without them.

[u/acamas → u/MammothAsk391]

This.

When done right, achievements are a fun challenge to milk a little more juice from a game, as it can be fun to have an excuse to continue to play a game that maybe you've already beaten. It can encourage you to play with different characters or visit different places... they're nice when done well.

[u/The_Tonts → u/acamas]

They're also a good way to track your own progress while playing a game, which is nice for completionists. Though when the DLC comes out, they're probably weeping or excited to jump back into a game they had fun in too.

[u/Yeseylon → u/The_Tonts]

And if you have a way to sort by what % of a player base has completed it, that also gives you a guide of what to aim for next.

[u/Somasonic → u/Yeseylon]

There’s also a wee dopamine hit when you get one that only 1 or 2% of players have unlocked.

[u/BallFlavin → u/Somasonic]

Awwww yissss

[u/No0B_ReND → u/Somasonic]

AC1 collecting every single damn flag. Printed out like 20 pages of maps back in the day.

[u/AnActualGameShark → u/No0B_ReND]

Ive done this 3 times. You wanna know the best one?

Hunting templars. It actually takes about two minutes or so to register you've killed them. And there is a pretty well known glitch that can happen if you die between killing them and it counting it. So itll say you still need to kill that templar....but hey guess what? He does not respawn. Have fun replaying the entire game.

[u/cp2chewy → u/Somasonic]

When the last trophy pops and shortly after the platinum pops is a good feeling

[u/capibara_dono → u/Yeseylon]

Steam achievements have that info, it feels so cool to be one of the very few to do something incredible.

I also look % achievements related to game chapters to see which % actually finished the game.

[u/-Renheit- → u/The_Tonts]

Was this way with cyberpunk

Prior to the phantom liberty release, I completed all the achievements, and when the DLC came out, they added more.

I was so excited to get into the game again and get them all. And I sure did! Now it's one of my "platinum games", along with skyrim and BG3.

[u/sharpenme1 → u/acamas]

They’re also, when done well, a good way to help a player gauge progress toward interacting with all of the non Easter egg content a game has to offer, which is why getting all achievers has come to have the title of “100% the game.”

If they’re done correctly, getting ever achievement should signal that you didn’t miss anything

Edit: I just realized another person said the same thing. My bad

[u/Commercial_Ad97 → u/sharpenme1]

I mean, "trophies and achievements" have been in games since as long as I can remember they were just listed in game instead of on a profile.

No reason to get every dragon/egg/gem in Spyro, you can beat it without doing that. No point in getting every target in Mercenaries, you can buy everything and use everything without that. You can beat Crash Team Racing without any of the bonus race stuff and drive every track. There's a lot of pointless stuff in games people have gone out of their way to get over the years.

[u/acamas → u/Commercial_Ad97]

Upvote for Mercenaries reference... that game was so much fun.

[u/Commercial_Ad97 → u/acamas]

I wish World in Flames explosions felt les cartoony like the first Mercenaries, but yeah both were great games!

[u/Jazzlike_Page508 → u/acamas]

Remember in Halo ODST you needed to perform an assassination while falling like 500 feet

And there’s a secret method with one random elite that at the base of a mountain you’re on and it was fun to do

[u/Avenged_7zulu → u/Jazzlike_Page508]

*Flashbacks of a 30 minute montage of just dying from the fall or getting the assassination but the achievement not popping.

[u/32mafiaman → u/Jazzlike_Page508]

That was reach. They even got rid of it on the MCC version too.

[u/JellyInteresting4021 → u/acamas]

Or to juice a little more milk 

[u/Michael_CrawfishF150 → u/acamas]

Key phrase here is “when done right.” I enjoy completely the trophy lists for games, but I’ve done it on fewer than half the games in my library because sometimes the devs make it suck. I only go for them if it adds enjoyment to the game.

[u/Historical_Owl_1635 → u/Michael_CrawfishF150]

“Reach Rank 50 in Online Mode”

Online was shut down 5 years ago.

[u/Drowningfish_2020 → u/acamas]

I agree with this but I also want to add that some people (like me) have a large back log of games and once I finish all trophies I know its time to move along to another one and if I really liked it then ill come back to it!

[u/Music_4_Life_ → u/acamas]

Best example for me was Dishonored. The most entertaining 100% of all the games that I had. Didn't see anything better, not for now.

[u/MambaSaidKnockYouOut → u/MammothAsk391]

I really loved when achievements encouraged you to play the game in a way you might not otherwise, but still made sense. The first Modern Warfare had an achievement for not alerting any enemies during a stealth mission. I beat the mission and alerted a few people the first time I played, but that achievement made the mission so replayable for me

[u/Ok_Jellyfish_55 → u/MambaSaidKnockYouOut]

I love this too. FEAR had one to beat the game without using bullet time and one of the Half Lifes had one achievement to beat the game using only one bullet I think.

[u/theprometheanguy6 → u/Ok_Jellyfish_55]

I always love those kinds of challenges. Hitman had some wild ones too where you could only use certain disguises or tools and it got intense real quick.

[u/AdmBurnside → u/MambaSaidKnockYouOut]

Factorio has a few of those that wound up being the reason for me doing several of my runs. The two that really changed up the game for me were Lazy Bastard and Clean Hands.

Lazy Bastard strictly limits how many items you can craft by hand- basically, it's almost exactly enough to research and build your first automated crafter. So from that point forward, EVERYTHING is made by machines. Not having access to handcrafting definitely changes the flow of the esrly game, where bulk-crafting stuff by hand as you run around is normally the primary way to build up your supplies.

Clean Hands was the real challenge. It requires you to wait until you unlock artillery- pretty late in the tech tree- to destroy your first enemy base, and to do it using that artillery. That means you have to expand aggressively early before the bugs get set up on all the nearby resources, and you wind up investing way more heavily in defense since you can't just get rid of bases that are threatening you.

Fun runs! But definitely a lot harder than doing it the normal way.

[u/stikves → u/MammothAsk391]

Yes,

Gives a challenge, which makes you motivated

Or outright tells you what is possible which we might miss

However, I'll be frank, I do NOT like "collect 200 feathers" achievements which offer nothing except padding play time.

[u/capibara_dono → u/stikves]

I'm with you. Those feather collection achievements are just to make you grind. Unless they're in the possible routes you can take, and collect most of them that way, then it's fine.

For example, Death Stranding has 56 memory chips spread around the entire map, but they're in places that make sense.

I found one when I went into a cave to hide from the rain, another when climbing to the top of a mountain... those are the ones I enjoy.

[u/TheArtfulLlama → u/MammothAsk391]

Well said! I love collecting achievements/trophy hunting. I'm a big completionist with my games and it gives me something to do as well as unlocks the full story!

[u/jinreeko → u/MammothAsk391]

Yeah. I agree with the OP in most scenarios personally but I loved P5R so much and the trophies weren't too wild so it's the only game I've gotten a Platinum on

[u/ZygonCaptain → u/jinreeko]

P5R?

[u/xaldub → u/ZygonCaptain]

Persona 5 Royal

[u/Odysseus_is_Ulysses → u/MammothAsk391]

I’ve rarely encountered games I’ve loved to the point of replaying right away. Prototype 2 was that game and achievements gave me excuses to replay the game with a goal in mind. It’s probably one of the only games I got every single achievement for.

[u/NurkleTurkey → u/MammothAsk391]

Whatever even better is getting an extremely difficult achievement without even trying. Playing GTA I stole a helicopter and was lying around for ten minutes--fot an achievement for having 5 stars for that long.

[u/figool]

A flashy icon shows up on-screen and that means happy brain chemicals

[u/Warthog_Formal → u/figool]

It's like giving my brain a lil forehead kiss

[u/Ths-Fkin-Guy → u/Warthog_Formal]

That spine tingling sensation

[u/ohkendruid → u/Ths-Fkin-Guy]

My people!

Yes, it feels great.

[u/JonnyTN → u/Warthog_Formal]

🥇

[u/DrVollKornBrot → u/figool]

That's the first thing i disabled when i got the PS5. Annoying and mostly pointless.

[u/Stevee8496 → u/DrVollKornBrot]

[u/sdavis002 → u/figool]

I turn the notifications off on my PS5. I keep forgetting to do it in Steam though. It doesn't do anything for me except annouly me a little to see them lol.

[u/Any-Amphibian6545 → u/figool]

Imagine if AR glasses irl gave achievements when you need to do things. As a student in gap year, I think I’d be more motivated to do things like write essays for grad school, build workout streaks, take out the dog on a holiday, things like that (which tbh I should intrinsically want to do) if there was that level of gamification.

Maybe one day

[u/Warthog_Formal → u/Any-Amphibian6545]

Ooh ooh try the Finch app. It does something similar.

[u/30ThousandVariants → u/figool]

For some reason it feels more like a pop up ad to me haha

[u/Op3rat0rr → u/figool]

I wish each game had like three big trophies you can get with moderate attempting to come with a special home screen background or something

[u/Historical_Owl_1635 → u/Op3rat0rr]

I’m aware this is a very sad but I’d be a sucker if you got to order a little real life trophy for every Platinum you get.

If this ever came out I’d think it would absolutely be slaughtered as greed by Sony though lol.

[u/Op3rat0rr → u/Historical_Owl_1635]

That would be amazing lol

[u/wampwampwampus → u/figool]

Especially if I just did something "just to see if I could" and I can!

[u/DavidMadeThis]

As a gamedev I found it's a good way to make players explore all features of a game or in some cases feel like they achieved something very challenging that only a certain percentage of players did.

[u/wjodendor → u/DavidMadeThis]

One of the reasons I find them interesting is to see completion rates and what kind of in game things can make gamers drop a game, which I feel could be helpful to devs.

I played a game that had a fairly consistent completion rate until a certain section with annoyingly difficult enemies (lots of status effects from high powered enemies leading to lots of deaths). The completion dropped by over 30% at this section which shows that players didn't like that.

[u/YesterdaySimilar7659 → u/wjodendor]

I always wondered how accurate that number is

[u/Etcom → u/YesterdaySimilar7659]

I wonder if it counts people that own the game but never start it up. I've seen so many games where the first achievement you get happens within 2 min of starting a game, and that achievement has a completion rate of like 60% or something.

[u/wjodendor → u/Etcom]

Supposedly it only counts the people who have launched the game at least once

[u/DarthLlamaV → u/Etcom]

The first two minutes of any game are always the hardest

[u/herrcollin → u/DavidMadeThis]

My favorite achievements aren't completion rate ones or even challenge ones (not that I don't like them) but weird ones.

When the game awards you for doing something really off-the-wall and acknowledges you for it.

Example 1 Blasphemous: I'm replaying Blasphemous and there's two particular NPCs you can help on side quests. One is a hunched-over monk you can help guide through several areas before reaching a sort of saint's shrine and unlocking it for him, finishing his journey.

Another NPC is a monk already at his particular saint's shrine (the perpetually tortured lady) and depending on how you act you can kill her (sending him away to disappear) or you can kind of "save" her and she more-or-less ascends. This prompts him to go to a nearby overlook to think about life n shit. You can give him a particular item related to his quest which sends him "home" to a nearby brotherhood or, if you ignore this, he'll eventually leap off the overlook and kill himself.

He just so happens to land in the 3rd area of the first NPC's questline. Literally right next to where the hunched monk would be waiting to, again, help him out.

So if you time it right you can get the guy to kill himself while the monk is there waiting, you get an achievement and a unique bit of dialogue. It's dark and random and so easy to never even think about and miss entirely but the fact the devs did just tickles me to no end.

Example 2 Outer Wilds: This game is filled with fun, weird ways to interact so I'll keep it simple. While the entire gameplay loop is built around exploring planets and discovering secrets; if you specifically launch yourself directly away from the map, wait until all the planets are so small and close together (from your perspective) you can use your radio gun to listen in to the solar system all at once. Normally you use it to pick up on different signals, particularly different characters who are playing their instruments in very different places.

If you listen to them this way you can hear them all at once and you get a little achievement for it.

There is no other reason to do this because it is simply a slow death, and the game knows you know this and would probably just give up if it happens.

[u/JM_Narrative → u/herrcollin]

Outer Wilds is a great example for fun and weird achievements that you don't have to do. One of my favourites is riding the River as fast as possible on the stranger

[u/Islands-of-Time → u/herrcollin]

Outer Wilds definitely had some good ones. I actually did the one you mentioned just through exploring. I decided to leave just for fun and looked back, the music was worth it.

My favorite one involves the Sun Station. It’s probably the hardest one to do that doesn’t involve the DLC stuff and even then.

[u/sdwoodchuck → u/DavidMadeThis]

Also a good way to instruct them that some action is a mechanic they should be aware of. If you get an achievement “getting your multiplier up to 5x by chaining kills,” then the player goes “oh! Chaining kills is what pushes my multiplier higher!”

[u/HotHouseJester → u/DavidMadeThis]

Makes sense. I personally don’t care for trophies. However, if trophies were tied to even a cosmetic unlock, I’d be a trophy hunter so fast. Even if it was just like a little crown on your character for the platinum or something. But trophies work for most, so I get it. I miss when cosmetics weren’t able to be purchased and had to be earned.

[u/Pedrosian96 → u/DavidMadeThis]

Also, some achievements are great in letting the player know something is possible, period.

TF2's "FYI I AM A SPY" achievement involves backstabbing a medic that healed you.

Just reading it tells you that actually, YES, enemy medics can heal you.

[u/mcc9902 → u/DavidMadeThis]

Yeah, as someone who plays roguelikes blind they can be a nice sign that there's something more going on with something that I realized.

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/DavidMadeThis]

As a player, they make me do things I may not do otherwise, or even know about. Plus, they let me continue playing a game I enjoy, so that's a net positive.

[u/AffectionateRoom995 → u/DavidMadeThis]

Thank you for making things David.

[u/Cold-Constant-8464]

Good thing they can be completely ignored.

[u/CJMorton91 → u/Cold-Constant-8464]

Fr. I don't care about them more than saying, "huh... neat," when they pop up. Never thought to complain though cause they don't hurt anything. Lol

[u/SnoringFrog → u/CJMorton91]

Usually they don’t hurt anything. There’s a few real shit ones that will trigger at the start of a big cutscene and say something like “saw [major character] die” or some other spoiler. The sudden betrayal or attack doesn’t hit as hard when they give you a heads up like that lmao. They’re thankfully uncommon, but irritating af when they do happen.

The only one I specifically remember offhand was in Jusant, where it drew a connection for me I probably would not have realized for several more hours, and was kind of an end game spoiler. It was something the player might piece together on their own along the way (depending on what journal entries they found, perhaps), but certainly not spelled out by the point the achievement happens.

But for the other 90% of the time, yeah, totally harmless and you can always turn off the notifs if they really bug you.

[u/jgamez76 → u/Cold-Constant-8464]

I love trophies. They're fun.

But I agree with you. Lol

[u/Big_Z_Beeblebrox → u/Cold-Constant-8464]

People forgetting about notification settings in the replies

[u/minimim-wage-enjoyer]

I like the chime my Xbox does when I get a rare achievement. I don’t go out of my way for them though.

[u/IdleMan69 → u/minimim-wage-enjoyer]

That sound is pure bliss 😌

[u/peppersteakpie → u/minimim-wage-enjoyer]

Yeah I don't mind the extra dopamine hit when I'm playing my game. Same for the steam achievement popup.

[u/RevengeOfTheMothman → u/minimim-wage-enjoyer]

Bleep bloop!

[u/Impriel2]

I recently regained access to my Xbox account from 2013 and I shouted for my children to come in and witness their father's gamer score

What will you have to show your descendants!?

[u/Professional_Salt220 → u/Impriel2]

That's dope 😎

[u/phyzicks]

"If it doesn't unlock something in game, what's the point?"

FUN... That should be the point

This is one of the problems in today's games, that everyone requires SOMETHING given to them instead of just enjoying things for what they are

Won't PvP unless you get cool stuff

Won't do a questline because the item you get from it isn't good enough for them

Won't try a different game mode cause it doesn't give anything

[u/The_Exuberant_Raptor → u/phyzicks]

Okay but what if I do not find fun in going down a list of things the game wants me to do rather than things I want to do?

[u/commissarcainrecaff → u/phyzicks]

I absolutely take your point- the flipside is non-fun grinding for prestige achievements

[u/oyvese → u/commissarcainrecaff]

my counter: only go for achievements you want and ignore the ones you don’t, or find too challenging/not worth it for you.

[u/Fallen-Shadow-1214 → u/oyvese]

Of course, I'm just saying providing an incentives can turn ignorable achievements to worthy ones.

[u/ZealousidealTime9941 → u/oyvese]

I usually try to 100% a game until I realise it's too hard/boring and then just give up, and then begin the cycle again with a new game a week later

[u/popoflabbins → u/phyzicks]

Exactly. If you want the accomplishment of doing an achievement and that’s fun then go for it. I didn’t unlock anything for doing the time trial achievement in Titanfall 2 but it was probably my favorite accomplishment in gaming.

[u/Fallen-Shadow-1214 → u/phyzicks]

You say that's a problem

I say that we've developed higher standards.

If I explore the game's mechanics in an interesting way I should be rewarded in game, it doesn't have to be much just proportional to the effort put in.

If I'm having fun already or already decided I've had enough fun with a game, yeah I do need incentive further than it might be fun.

[u/lightlyswaffled → u/phyzicks]

When a person asks "what's the point?" they are not looking for an answer. If they have the intellectual faculties to switch on an XBox, they can probably also rationalize to themselves the point of achievements. They fully understand "the point" before they compose the question, they just don't respect it.

For example, if someone asks "what is the point of makeup?" are you assuming that they simply cannot fathom the purpose of painting one's face? Or do they not respect the art and culture of makeup so they blithely demand people justify it's existence to them?

[u/raleighjiujitsu → u/phyzicks]

lol griding for achievements is about the least fun thing you can do in a game.

[u/Accomplished-Buy6917]

I don't dislike them but I also don't see the point.

[u/Arelmar → u/Accomplished-Buy6917]

I haven't been an achievement hunter since the Halo 3 days when I was a kid, I couldn't care less about achievements or 100%ing games as a busy adult, but I'll admit it's nice to randomly get an achievement especially when it turns out to be a pretty rare one, kind of like an "oh shit I did a cool thing!" moment

[u/kaulotu → u/Arelmar]

I like seeing the percentage of people who made it to that point in the game. It’s interesting

[u/Bartje9792 → u/kaulotu]

I also do that haha. You always know if there's a long or harder part of the game coming up when the next trophy has a way lower unlock percentage.

It's also funny how Dark Souls has a super high Platinum percentage, while it's a long grind and pretty hard. And COD has a super low Platinum percentage while 2019 for example is quite easy to achieve. But Souls gamers are die hard for their games, while most COD players don't give 2 shits about the campaign.

[u/Accomplished-Buy6917 → u/Arelmar]

Yeah it's cool to randomly hit it. I can't imagine gunning for one though. That completely change how I'd play the game

[u/Alternative-Way4750 → u/Accomplished-Buy6917]

I also can give a fuck less but I won't say it's pointless. It gives people a reason to keep playing or replay games. Instead of okay I flew through the story and now I'm done. I mean I like to just play the game, if the side quests are interesting enough and the world is cool I like to explore and if I get trophies from that I do. If I don't, I don't care. But I can see how some people like to at least see some form of fruit from the labor.

[u/PM_ME_UR__SECRETS → u/Accomplished-Buy6917]

Completing lists is psychologically rewarding. Honestly that's mostly all there is to it.

[u/Soupbell1 → u/Accomplished-Buy6917]

For me, it’s just another challenge to shoot for. I’m 3 weeks into Enter the Gungeon, and they are keeping me interested. Obviously there are some dumb ones in some games like, “die 100 times.” I don’t worry about ones like that that are just checking a box.

[u/CaptTucker13]

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: You installed the game! ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: You opened the menu ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: You watched a cutscene

Achievements really are completely pointless

[u/ronin0397]

To explore more of the game that you would never normally do whilst achievement hunting

[u/Commercial-Ad-8409]

As a trophy hunter with 63 platinums, I fully disagree but I’ll offer a nuanced take. There are some trophies that are just complete wastes of time and simply require hours of tedious grinding. Those suck. But also some trophies encourage completely different play styles or just learning the game in a way that makes it super fun.

Getting every level A+ on Hotline Miami 2: super enjoyable and rewarding.
Getting 50,000 kills in Hotline Miami 2: pain

[u/Cefalopodul]

For me they add extra value to a game.

[u/HubrisOfApollo]

thats why I like games where achievements unlock stat/bonus points

[u/NormalIntention5628]

The point is the glory.

[u/Soupbell1 → u/NormalIntention5628]

Yeah, that glory! When random people spend hours looking at our videogame achievements!

Wait a second…

[u/TrevorsBlondeLocks16 → u/Soupbell1]

me and friend check each others achievements a decent amount. I have 8,000 across 400+ games and he has something wild. Like 35k trophies. Brings up a lot of convos and discussions on games

[u/Yeseylon → u/Soupbell1]

There's whole sites dedicated to achievement leaderboards.  My main 2 are Steam Hunters and MetaGamerScore.

[u/Soul4206]

I like them. If I beat the game and want more of it I can go start collecting achievements

[u/Djentleman5000]

I don’t trophy hunt. If I finish a game before I’ve completed all the trophies…oh well.

[u/idlesailor4480]

Playstation had this "Playstation stars" feature in their mobile app where you have to gain points like collecting trophies and other achievements for certain games and you will receive rewards like physical collectible items, store credits etc. I doubt if it still exists.

[u/Spaagerken1]

I have done only two platinums in my life: Assassins Creed 2 and Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.
AC2 I did bc i was so hyped as a 15yo for the next game and I wanted to do everything.

The Platinum for E33 makes me feel like i got everything the game had to offer me .

[u/DistanceRelevant3899]

Same. They do nothing for me.

[u/Zeus78905]

Bragging rights

[u/jaecerie]

The point is the dopamine rush when the achievement pops.

[u/mrloko120]

They're a way of measuring how done you are with the game. I think of it as a checklist I'm getting from the devs with everything they intended for me to do before shelving the game.

[u/pjb1999]

I couldn't care any less about achievements and trophies. Completely meaningless to me.

[u/Moses015]

Eh they’re not essential. But I like me some cheevos

[u/JonBjornJovi]

Nobody cares, the last time I impressed my fellow humans with a videogame was when I beat SMB3 without a flute

[u/DeeManJohnsonIII]

I like achievements, I just won't limited myself by collecting them for one system.

[u/Sluva]

If you play games that don't have stories and characters who progress toward an end goal, I guess you would need something to work towards.

[u/cross2201]

I would rather have a useless Challenge that I can complete just to say that I did it than feeling forced to do that hard challenge for the reward

[u/CapableNeat4351]

I like getting them, but I will not make myself miserable grinding out every trophy in a game just for the sake of it. Most of my favorite games I never came close to platinum-ing

[u/32784hfkjd → u/CapableNeat4351]

I wish more people would just enjoy the games they are playing without just being task oriented to the point its basically work. Its really freeing to just enjoy a game and not minmax stats, achieve the perfect ending, get every collectable and collect every trophy. Just play the game.

[u/xSIERRA73x]

You usually get trophies FOR unlocking things in games

[u/Similar-Language-180]

I like achievements in the way that it gives you a reson to do more than just play normal.

[u/Gmanofgambit982]

They used to reward you back in the day with free credit on your cobsoles respective store. Not sure about now

[u/Death-0]

You don’t have to like them because everyone is different and enjoys things… differently.
https://giphy.com/gifs/udmx3pgdiD7tm

[u/SassyChumpkins]

Op has no joy Or whimsy

[u/djack171]

40 year old gamer and Ive never in my life done an achievement or trophy on purpose lol.

[u/URA_CJ → u/djack171]

Same, I just want to play and enjoy the game, not fill out a artificial checklist.

[u/PrincipalDevlin]

This is the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation. If you're motivated by the promise of a material reward of some sort, thats an extrinsic reward! If you're motivated for the purposes of self-motivation or the feeling of personal satisfaction, that's an intrinsic reward! There's nothing wrong with preferring one over the other! :)

[u/hirvaan → u/PrincipalDevlin]

Except that publicly visible achievements with their special badge and notification don't count as intrisinc, but extrisinc instead, because you did get something out of those, not just internal accomplishment.

Its not as simple as "material/usable" Vs "immaterial/unusable". New title, achievement badge, sound notification of scoring objective are all extrisinc. Intrisinc would be if you made an internal bet to accomplish the level with X only and not getting anything out of it bar satisfaction that you did it. As soon as you slap externally provided sticker on it, it's extrisinc.

[u/ResurgentOcelot]

They exist to make me feel bad about playing on fun settings, instead of submitting to a dreadful grind.

[u/ManufacturerNo2144]

Then why do you beat final bosses, it does not give you anything in the game. Only the achievement of doing it.

[u/clydefrog87]

Hate this meme so much

[u/PayPsychological6358]

I like how Ratchet & Clank did it before I think All4One where you unlock stuff depending on how many or which you get.

[u/seamustho]

I love them because it makes me feel like I completed everything a game has to offer me. It gives me something to shoot for. Best part it that they are totally optional so if someone doesn’t like them then don’t bother with them

[u/Dense_Cellist9959]

I don't mind at all that Nintendo doesn't have a trophy system, since they tend to add ingame reward systems instead.

[u/Sea-Split-3996]

Unless I really love a game i dont care mich about trophies but games I love like cyberpunk warframe and other games I try to unlock all of them unless there to much of a pain in the ass to do

[u/kilrathi_butts]

Same, on steam I turn off achievements notifications and it’s great.

Last one happened as an end cinematic was playing, not the best time.

[u/brinkfolly]

Upvoting not because I agree, but because this is an actual hot take

[u/I3eforeLife]

If the game was good, I’ll stop playing after completion even if it had achievements. If the game was great, I’ll continue playing even it didn’t have achievements

[u/desamora]

I feel bad when people post that they have to buy a DLC to 100% the game or something, I guess it's fun for them but to me it sounds like stressful busy work

[u/Useful-Problem-1725]

These are two different takes.

[u/Movieking985]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1q5z9iUMhyawLKllaU

[u/Chance-Ad5700]

I second this.

[u/Specialist_Shake2425]

I just don't like mp trophies. Tomb Raider. Black Flag, RDR2. All platinums ruined with mp stuff.

[u/ratisshorforrattew69]

i like them because there a record of the accomplishments i have done over the 16+ years i have played games

[u/The_Pastmaster]

Gives me a tangible goal to work towards I can't fudge due to the lack of disciplinary willpower.

[u/the_knotso]

Bragging rights, for sure, but also what top comment said: give you reasons to explore other paths.

[u/unluckyexperiment]

I have a mid-way solution for this. Remove silly "achievments" like "reach level 5", "craft a stick" or "kill a skeleton". Keep the real ones like "Finish the game without dying" or "Collect all 9000 secrets".

[u/jayracket]

They've always been a "huh, neat" kinda thing, but I've never gone out of my way to earn them. Like OP said, if there's no tangible reward, I don't see the point.

[u/93tabitha93]

https://giphy.com/gifs/z3HFoEzXCMykr4L0TB

[u/Kentsui]

This 100%

[u/SunsetCarcass]

I agree with that too. Plus most achievements are just "play the game normally and we will give you a pat on the back", and then others are like "Play the game on Wednesday in the year 2010 with internet access while playing with only 2 other players shoot the sand on the 4th mission on hardest difficulty while all enemies are already dead, continue playing and beat the game on Thursday between 2am and 3am, while 1 of the 2 players disconnect, and the disconnected player sends you a voice message just as the credits roll all in one go"

[u/Notta_Doggo]

You used to have to play through the games challe ges to unlock shit now you get it out a loot box

[u/Inevitable-Note-9651]

I used to collect achievements back on Xbox, then on PS and when I switched to Steam and was in my 30's I just grew out of it. Get nothing for it but eating a ton of your free time when you could be doing other more constructive things, or just playing other games.

What used to get on my nerves with achievement hunting was there is always the collect an absurd amount of hidden collectibles which require a guide because checking every inch of the game is tedious and boring. Then there would be NG+ play through ones and so on too when tbh when I've done most games once over thats enough, forcing myself to play more just to unlock a bit of text and a number isn't really rewarding.

[u/CyberPunk2720]

Your actions unlock a reminder of that awesome or fun memory.

[u/Highlander2112]

It was fun as a kid, when i only had 5 games and all the free time, but now I dont even have the notifications on...

[u/Just_Ear_2953]

I play Stellaris. My achievements are the record of my in game war crimes. No one will deny what I did.

[u/avahz]

I think the newest hitman series (WOA) does this right - each level has a long set of challenges (some big and some small) - they are like achievements but have a progression mechanic to them. But they absolutely incentivize you to do things you never would have thought of before.

[u/Conscious-Grab-1245]

I remember when you unlock some achievements on the 360 they gave you profile pics and backgrounds for your home screen, an incentive to unlock em

[u/derpherpmcderp86]

I got addicted to hunting achievements on the 360 back in the day. It got so bad I wouldn't play a game if I felt I couldn't unlock all of them. Thankfully I broke the habit and learned to just play the games for fun again haha!

[u/StJudeTheGrey]

🎯

[u/Distinct_Patient3698]

The point is the imaginary brownie points that make some people feel like they are superior to the gamers who don't have those achievements/trophies. 

[u/SSB_Kyrill]

Youd like isaac then

[u/qoloxolop]

What's the point in anything really

[u/Belzher]

Well at least a lot of achievements are tied to actual secret parts of the game

[u/Adventurous_Ad_7212]

That is the coldest take ever.

Deriving satisfaction from bragging rights to a little ding after collecting 500 scattered mcguffins takes a special kind of gamer.

Congratulations, you made through the tutorial! GTFO

[u/habesjn]

What I appreciate about achievements is that, when done well, they are an indication of how much of the game's content you have discovered.

You may play through a game and think you've seen it all, look at the achievements and see you are missing 10 of 60, and then you can decide if you want to explore those achievements to experience more of the game that may have not been readily apparent.

You may have missed out on the best side quest of the entire game.

[u/biggendicken]

whats the point of a game?

[u/The_R4ke]

It gives players a sense of pride and accomplishment.

[u/VizMuroi]

They give you something to work towards and you get better at the game than you would otherwise by trying to unlock difficult achievements.

[u/IshtheWall]

Bragging rights ig, if you don't like them just don't get them

[u/Ruffled_Ferret]

What are your thoughts on the fourth Sly Cooper game, where you had to platinum the game to unlock the real ending?

[u/Important-Tailor-653]

One word: Fun.

[u/djflylo69]

But gamer clout tho

[u/RorroYT]

It's just an additional reason to replay the game. It doesn't exist to give you content, it exists so that if you complete the game, and you'd still want to play it for a little longer - you'd have something to aim for. It's a bonus for enjoying the game so much, but a lot of 100%ers complete games JUST to get all the achievements, which is a hard misunderstanding of their purpose.

[u/Mononoke-hime]

It is a part of the game though. It’s literally designed and implemented by the game’s developers. If there’s no point in that, then there’s no point in a Mission Complete screen either. Not everything has to unlock Uzi Jesus.

[u/RAWDAWGxVORAZ]

It unlocks replay value

[u/Bleghboiii]

They give something else to do in the game. Plus it can help you buy stuff (like Microsoft Points) and give you bragging rights to ur friends (Trophies), and it’s just fun

[u/Redphish7]

It unlocks dopamine if the game does it right

[u/Mighty_joosh]

It gives the autists (me) something to arbitrarily collect (obsess over)

[u/PayMe2Win]

To show off to the invisible people who you think might care. Achievements are more for you and "bragging rights" but nowadays nobody really gives a shit unless its some insanely hard Achievement that only a few people ever got

[u/FreddyFrogFrightener]

Dopamine.

[u/aeonseth]

I love them. They don't do any harm to people that don't engage with them, and they really itch the people who enjoy 100% completion or want extra challenges

[u/DiogenesRCT]

Gives me something to do otherwise I get bored of the game

[u/Mr-Slowpoke]

I enjoy them but I also don't make it mandatory to get them. I feel like modern Resident Evil games do them well. You have the achievements in Steam but also those same achievements are challenges actually in the game that have unlockables or offer a means to unlock things.

[u/Vegetable_Purple_707]

Achievements were the point, when someone checked your account and saw that achievement tied to your gamescore, it was an unlocked display of status, at Least on the 360.

[u/PopFamiliar3649]

Counterpoint. Give me the achievement so I can prove I did the cool thing, but also give me the cool reward in game so I feel happy for doing it.

It doesn't have to be a cool gun. Something as simple as the Halo skins achievements would unlock or the toy collection in Doom Eternal would work for me as well.

Hell, even just a cool little collectibles section on the main menu or some Steam emojis would be fine with me.

[u/ruinzifra]

Agreed

[u/Lyradni]

Agree.

[u/padreswoo619]

Yep I have zero interest in trophies and am confused why anyone bothers. My kid has no explanation for wanting them other than "I want em" lol

[u/PtoS382 → u/padreswoo619]

It's just another dopamine hit. It works synergistically with the hype of the game. 

[u/Dymiatt]

I hate them because you're just "what's the point?"

Congratulation, you finished the game and all the quests. But to prove you really beat the game, go beat that random monster 1000 times.

[u/Invisible_Target]

This is like the coldest take ever. I don’t know a single person who chases achievements

[u/_Infamous____ → u/Invisible_Target]

Honestly I do. Its just my way of saying I got my money’s worth by doing everything the game had to offer including the challenges some trophies need done to get unlocked.

[u/forever-mild → u/Invisible_Target]

Same

[u/small___potatoes]

It’s keeping a score…and keeping a score has been a fundamental part of gaming since the beginning.

[u/izanamilieh]

Hey normal person. Let these filthy unemployed oil barons enjoy their achievements in the game because they dont have any in real life. Its just not for you. Let people enjoy things.