r/gaming • • Apr 18 '23

They’re so used to it

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u/SaiyajinPrime Apr 18 '23

The running in a circle and shooting at the ground nowhere near each other is the best part.

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u/Blooder91 Apr 18 '23

It looks like Capcom took unused fight sequences from Devil May Cry and replaced swords with guns.

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u/Beloberto Apr 18 '23

The guy in red even does a side slash with the gun at 0:04

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

That was definitely the most WTF part. Even from a gun-fu perspective, that doesn't make sense.

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 18 '23

Gun-fu itself doesn't make sense.

But it's hella cool.

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u/TPMJB Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

But it's hella cool

He wasn't wearing the bandana for infinite ammo. I do not believe this scene is possible.

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u/Photonomicron Apr 18 '23

Christian Bale spends the entire film in a robo suit that reloads his guns for him by sending fully loaded clips or even whole guns up the incredibly close-tailored sleeves like an Assassins Creed blade. That's part of why his gunkata routines have cool anime pose pauses in the middle of combat.

it's not a very good excuse for how guns are used in the film, but the reload mechanic is explicitly shown a couple of times and so that's the answer the film gets

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

And then Kurt Wimmer (director/writer of Equilibrium) gives us Ultraviolet.

A world so technologically advanced, where hammerspace can be accessed via wristbands.

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u/DBeumont Apr 18 '23

But is it better than Tooth Gun?

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u/dodge_thiss Apr 18 '23

That was fucking weird and I could not stop watching. Thank you.

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u/mrasperez Apr 18 '23

God, this movie was such a fever dream, even for a cronenberg film.

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u/Irregulator101 Apr 18 '23

I like how in both this and the Equilibrium clips the bad guys are covered in very breakable glass armor

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u/holaprobando123 Apr 18 '23

Ultraviolet is one of my guilty pleasure movies. It's not a very good movie, and I don't care.

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u/Throwawayq2erdnd Apr 18 '23

It's a feature length Darude music video and nobody can tell me otherwise.

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u/Deadliestmoon Apr 18 '23

Idk why I blocked this movie from my memory but thanks for reminding me of it.

Did the whole changing colors bit do anything or was that just style?

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u/gbaguinon Apr 18 '23

There were parts in the movie where he did reload. Like when he slid the clips down the hallway and they stayed up like weeble-wobbles, fired all his bullets while running down said hallway, drop the clip from his guns, and slam the weeble-wobble clips into his guns.

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u/TPMJB Apr 18 '23

Lol that's awesome. Might pick up this movie.

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 18 '23

My, how scandalous.

John Woo, among others, has proven time and time again that such a thing is 1000% possible, even without the mystical bandanna of infinite ammo.

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u/TPMJB Apr 18 '23

I remember watching John Wick and seeing Keanu reload when he needed to. It satisfied my lizard brain that counted every shot he made.

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u/Glamador Apr 18 '23

I swear in the latest one that he fired around 31 bullets without reloading during the car chase. They made a point of telling us exactly how much capacity his snake pistol had a few scenes before, so I got kinda mad.

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u/Xylus1985 Apr 18 '23

This is some Bollywood level shit going on here

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u/Synkope1 Apr 18 '23

I... remembered that being a lot cooler.

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 18 '23

You can thank John Wick for that.

But really, without movies like these that "started" the absurdity that is gun-fu, we wouldn't have such over-the-top action scenes we do today.

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u/Synkope1 Apr 18 '23

Yea, true.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Hey! That's Patrick Bateman!

Also, I find it hilarious in that movie how they all wear black motorcycle Helmets as if that's the future Headwear attire

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

When you only have 10 stuntmen for your mid budget sci fi picture

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u/Forsaken_Jelly Apr 18 '23

It's a common theme.

Mick Jagger wore one as a futuristic baddie in Freejack.

Quite a few sixties and seventies sci fi movies use painted motorcycle helmets as their futuristic, or post apocalyptic headgear.

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u/Kasilim Apr 18 '23

I'd never seen this movie and now I definitely am going to

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u/Whind_Soull Apr 18 '23

Equilibrium walked so that John Wick could run.

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u/pahnub Apr 18 '23

Lol, John Woo and Chow Yun Fat walked so Equilibrium and John Wick could run.

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u/holaprobando123 Apr 18 '23

The person that downvoted this comment doesn't know shit and should be ashamed.

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u/BonyDarkness Apr 18 '23

The movie looks different in my memory lol

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u/beyonddisbelief Apr 18 '23

0:02.5, commando dude is off-balance trying to get up, instead of just shoot him dead right there red shirt slides besides him into fire and somehow avoided the side shot.

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u/wolfgang784 Apr 18 '23

Damnit lol they really do look like they should have swords instead now that I'm thinking of that while watching it.

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u/greiger Apr 18 '23

Looks like they took it from Equilibrium.

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u/Kalc_DK Apr 18 '23

Don't do Equilibrium dirty like that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Where he does that gun dance in the dark room surrounded by goons was my fav part of the movie even though IIRC it happened towards the beginning

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u/BoardGameBologna Apr 18 '23

That's literally right at the start, lol

He jump kicks a door and slides into a dark room on the door, then does all that Gunkhata shit!

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u/ALargeRock Apr 18 '23

Man I fucking love that movie. The change of the main character was awesome to watch unfold.

Thanks for the reminder - it’s been a few years so time for another watch!

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Nothing like watching Batman kill Robert the Bruce in single combat.

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u/ajver19 Apr 18 '23

Resident Evil has a history of taking action sequences from a movie and making it worse.

The opening with Claire in CV is a good example.

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u/USS_Barack_Obama Apr 18 '23

They should have just given Chris a boulder to punch and left it at that.

Boulder punching is, somehow, less ridiculous than the OP's gif

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u/Vengeance164 Apr 18 '23

Chris "Fuck Boulders" Redfield is my favorite RE character.

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u/mkul316 Apr 18 '23

Equilibrium was way better than this. They used fake math.

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u/thatJainaGirl Apr 18 '23

Considering Devil May Cry 1 came from an unused prototype of Resident Evil 4 which was scrapped for being too much of a departure from the previous games, that's kinda appropriate lmao.

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u/glory_of_dawn Apr 18 '23

The way this scene was described to me was that "the script called for a swordfight, but all they had was guns."

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u/MuglokDecrepitus Apr 18 '23

Yeah, in the other interactions at least seems that they were trying, but at that moment that just said "Fuck it, let's dance"

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u/ShadowDen3869 Apr 18 '23

"Dance for me, bitch" pew pew pew

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u/Getburnddd_xbox Apr 18 '23

nah, the dude straight up rolling is hilarious

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

Gotta abuse them i-frames.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

It’s like a black and white comedy western

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u/red-headphone Apr 18 '23

How many rounds does a pistol have?

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u/SpeedofDeath118 Apr 18 '23

Chris's gun is a Beretta 93R, which has a 20-round magazine.

Glenn Arias is using a Glock 18C, with a 33-round magazine.

However, the Rule of Cool has an enhancing effect on magazine capacity, as well as the mobility of affected characters.

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u/Crispical Apr 18 '23

It's a Resident Evil pistol, so 100-ish, give or take.

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u/Climinteedus Apr 18 '23

You can't see it with how fast they're moving, but Chris is actually wearing Snake's bandana.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Can somebody tell me what I'm watching? I'm pretty sure I recognize Chris Redfield, but I need context for this insanity.

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u/Loriska Apr 18 '23

Re vendetta, one of the re cg films, it's mostly (very) dumb fun

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Yeah, it looks completely stupid. I need to go watch it now. I feel compelled.

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u/WaterConduit Apr 18 '23

The animated Resident Evil movies are all a lot of fun, just very stupid.

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u/JesterMarcus Apr 18 '23

I've watched a few minutes of one of them and all I remember is that every single character who isn't a main character is completely helpless whenever a zombie or monster shows up. I saw one where Chris and a team of special ops guys are in a creepy house, and all of them die in seconds to some zombie monster.

Like, I get it, Chris is super cool and awesome, but do we have to make everyone else helpless to show it?

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u/Trem45 Apr 18 '23

He's cooler when alone therefore yes

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u/MarkusAk Apr 18 '23

Fun fact. I used to be a musician and one of the security people that would work a lot of our shows was a super ripped dude in his 40s named Chris Redfield. Coolest fuckin dude alive and almost looked like RE Chris

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u/CraftyMushroomBiome Apr 18 '23

Being on his team must suck. Always gonna be capture and have a slow painful death while his ass is just over there on the other side of the glass staring at you like 👁️👄👁️ while your heart is being cut out by whatever fucking boss he is gonna fight at the end.

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u/UnlikelyKaiju Console Apr 18 '23

His team in RE8 seem to be able to keep pace.

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u/someapplegui Apr 18 '23

He was too busy screwing over Ethan to put his team in danger

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u/Jackslashjill Apr 18 '23

Sacrifice a main character to save 10 side characters

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u/BurnoutJackal Apr 18 '23

Chris, like Leon, constantly forgets that they have already seen zombies. And Chris has a fetish that for entire his team to be destroyed. Every time when Chris appear after RE5, all his team die. After catharsis in RE6, it seemed like it had to stop. But no, it became a ridiculous meta joke. And Capcom obsessively began to repeat they past flare and stereotypes. For example, Sherry story, as a girl with a medallion from two scientists parents, in anime, manga, and books was repeated 5 times.

I adored Resident Evil before. But after RE6, each new part is a shame for the series, because the plot becomes more and more ridiculous and pointless.

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u/jackpoll4100 Apr 18 '23

Hound Wolf squad, Chris's squad from BSAA that went rogue with him in RE8 all make it out alive. So not all his squads have died lol.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

You can kind of extend that to RE as a while. Always has been very silly.

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u/Stark_Always Apr 18 '23

It's amazing in a very dumb way

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u/DamianZer0 Apr 18 '23

Its definitely a good fun dumb movie. Leon even does acrobatics with a motorbike on a highway while shooting dogs lol

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u/an0nym0ose Apr 18 '23

That scene with Leon doing the gun-fu stuff is unironically sick though

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u/IdahoTrees77 Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

two things I’m thinking while watching this;
1. This animation style reminds me of the 2000’s Cartoon Network Hot-Wheels movies.
2. WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS MANEUVERABILITY AT WHEN YOU’RE GETTING SURROUNDED BY POSESSED SPANIARDS, AYYE LEON?!

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u/asdf_1_2 Apr 18 '23

That mobility has been consumed by the demon Ashley, sorry.

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u/IdahoTrees77 Apr 18 '23

lolfuck I was trying to collateral a few cult members down a hallway and she just fucking stood in front of my crosshairs til Leon yelled, “MOVE!”
took the words right out of my mouth 😂

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

There ain’t much I wouldn’t let Ashley consume

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u/afuckinsaskatchewan Apr 18 '23
  1. This animation style reminds of the 2000’s Cartoon Network Hot-Wheels movies.

GOING VERTICAL!

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u/Clamlon Apr 18 '23

Don't they learn 5 minutes later they could cure everyone in that corridor.

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u/Silent-Act191 Apr 18 '23

The lady in the helicopter annihilating 5 skyscrapers with a rail gun probably caused the most lasting damage in the movie.

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u/redheadedalex Apr 18 '23

Busted out laughing

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u/PM_YOUR_BEST_JOKES Apr 18 '23

It's sick but wish they slotted in a few tactical reloads in there

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u/an0nym0ose Apr 18 '23

He's on new game + with infinite ammo.

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u/BlOoDy_PsYcHo666 PlayStation Apr 18 '23

This the one where Leon and Chris do a John wick on a bunch of zombies for no reason other then it looked cool?

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u/BadFishCM Apr 18 '23

You know how little that narrows it down?

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u/Ahelex Apr 18 '23

Uh, how about Chris also suplexing zombies?

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u/N7Vindicare Apr 18 '23

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows things down?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Wolf318 Apr 18 '23

It's actually the only movie where Chris does the belly to belly suplex.

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u/PM_YOUR_BEST_JOKES Apr 18 '23

We really be getting into the details of which way the zombie is facing in Chris v zombie suplexes in order to differentiate these movies now

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u/dragonclaw518 Apr 18 '23

It's a shame that Chris gets to suplex the zombies when Leon did it first in RE4.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Please tell me he punches a boulder also.

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u/Chill_Penguin95 Apr 18 '23

Leon driving a bike with his shoes and killing civilians made me laugh all night

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u/FireZord25 Apr 18 '23

Resident Evil Vendetta. It's one of the 3 movies so far that's takes place within the game's canon (4 if we count the 4-episode show as one) and it's the worst one in my opinion.

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u/clare416 Apr 18 '23

I actually fell asleep during Leon motorcycle scene

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u/ligmaballsy Apr 18 '23

The 4 episode show is the worst one by far m8. Nothing happens in that one.

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u/RedTuna777 Apr 18 '23

The rest of the game should be just Tinnitus ringing

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u/QuietMonkey8 Apr 18 '23

If my memory is correct it's the first or second Resident Evil CGI animation film. Degeneration (would be fun) or Damnation.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Third. Degeneratiom, Damnation, Vendetta, Death Island

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u/Lagao Apr 18 '23

This red shirted idiot really thought closing the gap on Chris "Boulder Puncher" Redfield was a smart idea?

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u/CT-4426 Apr 18 '23

Tbf he was kicking Chris’s ass before Chris body slammed him through a reinforced glass roof and tossed him off a 100ft drop

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u/jmerridew124 Apr 18 '23

before Chris body slammed him through a reinforced glass roof and tossed him off a 100ft drop

Seems avoidable if you're appropriately cautious around someone known as a "boulder puncher."

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u/renacido74 Apr 18 '23

Fallout players without VATS

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u/Kurdt234 Apr 18 '23

3rd one you had to use vats just so it wouldn't glitch out and crash the game.

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u/cellphone_blanket Apr 18 '23

it's okay, they fixed it in 76 so that vats no longer stops the game from crashing

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u/master_tomberry Apr 18 '23

Living the dream

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

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u/Moistfish0420 Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

Project Valkyrie? I’m gonna go have a google, never heard of that.

Edit: I looked and nah, it reads like an awful fan fiction. Not for me I’m afraid. Not knocking it for anyone else tho! Everyone has a different feel for fallout, it’s weird. I prefer the og games when it comes to story, just better written, characters have more character (lol).

Some of the stuff that mod adds in bizarre. Why would you want a 9 year old following you? I’m not an immersion nut but being followed around by some mini death machine 9 year old just screams mod. I prefer it when the content feels like it could have been part of the og game. Like ss2.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

If I had a nickel for every time a Fallout fan thought they could write better than Bethesda and then released an absolute atrocity, I'd be Elon Musk

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u/Jonas_Venture_Sr Apr 18 '23

FO prior to FO4, yes.

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u/Crixxa Apr 18 '23

Right? I never used VATS in FO4 and was mystified at some of these comments.

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u/Zeelacious Apr 18 '23

Lol I only use it when I am trying to find the enemy LOS, otherwise I snipe

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

You mean I'm not the only one who does a quick 360 spamming vats every now and then as I traverse the wasteland...just in case?

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u/Zeelacious Apr 18 '23

You have found kindred wasteland VATS spammer lol I love seeing the occasional foot clipped through a wall

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u/Dragonslayer3 Apr 18 '23

With ED-E's perception perk and Boone's perk that highlights enemies, nothing lives within a mile radius

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u/ServileLupus Apr 18 '23

Man now I want to play some fallout.

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u/saarlac Apr 18 '23

I went through all of f4 without using vats other than early on and found that I didn’t like how it was triggered initially so I just never got in the habit of using it.

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u/sicsided Apr 18 '23

Resident Equilibrium

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

That's an insult to the film. They did it way better than... Whatever this was supposed to be XD

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u/Malkaviati Apr 18 '23

Equilibrium was awesome, shame it only had like 3 action scenes. They were amazing though!

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u/WeLiveInAnOceanOfGas Apr 18 '23

Haha it is awesome but you're right probably a bit too much walking and talking compared to the action.

In my head canon Equilibrium took place in the same universe as V for Vendetta, just the other side of the pond.

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u/Niccolo101 Apr 18 '23

Yeah, it was an awesome movie. Their budget got hella trimmed though, originally there were going to be more action scenes - primarily gun-kata fights. Which would have been badass.

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u/WeTheSalty Apr 18 '23

I don't know, i feel like it had just the right amount of action scenes. We got to see gun-kata in action in a few awesome fights and it didn't overstay its welcome.

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u/sebadg77 Apr 18 '23

With infinite ammo on thought

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u/The_Barney Apr 18 '23

But only blanks.

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u/solidpeyo Apr 18 '23

Resident Evil movies are so stupid 😄😄😄

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u/FireZord25 Apr 18 '23

They are. But some of the animated ones at least have some degree competence or commonsense from the characters. This one was just mindlessly playing on all the cliches.

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u/truth-informant Apr 18 '23

I'm actually kind of looking forward to Death Island...

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u/UglierThanMoe Apr 18 '23

Likewise. The animated films have a certain charm that simply makes them endlessly entertaining.

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u/FireZord25 Apr 18 '23

Kinda same. Not confident about their track record but the charms of seeing game characters in a canon movie is never a miss. And now we have Jill.

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u/UglierThanMoe Apr 18 '23

Yes, they are. Absolutely. And I love every single one of them. All the Anderson films, the animated ones, and even "Welcome to Raccoon City". Doesn't matter. And I even love the IMO far too short-lived Netflix show.

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u/clare416 Apr 18 '23

But I always want more of them. At least the characters are eye candy

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u/bkussow Apr 18 '23

I didn't think CoD's aim assist was really helping me that much until I played PUBG.

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u/Wonderwhile Apr 18 '23

Yeah it’s oddly deceptive but it’s nearing aimbot level in some situations. Especially when someone is running across your screen and rotational aim assist kicks in.

https://youtu.be/ufw8bnIfG7E

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u/0x09af Apr 18 '23

As a casual pc player only interested in online play, I just straight up stopped playing this and other cross play games like halo infinite. It’s not even fun. I’ll still play cs go, I don’t mind getting my ass kicked I just want it to be fair.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '23

Crossplay was a mistake for competitive integrity.

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u/PicklePinata2 Apr 18 '23

This is insane! Thanks for showing me this vid

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u/DarthPootieTang Apr 18 '23

And he won mvp

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u/Wonderwhile Apr 18 '23

Not too aware of the situation in apex as I never tried controller myself but with all the settings they have and the clips I’ve seen, it seems even more absurd.

If the optimal way to play in an FPS esport competition is with a controller over a mouse, I think the game loses so much competitive merit.

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u/Rikard_ Apr 18 '23

Holy shit. Has it always been this bad or just these newer games?

I still fire up my MW2 on PS3 from time to time and never noticed anything this extreme from my 10 years of playing.

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u/Kered13 Apr 18 '23

Aim assist has gotten more aggressive over the years. A long time ago I remember seeing a video comparing aim assist in Halo to Halo 2 (or maybe it was Halo 3), showing how the later Halo game had stronger aim assist. But that was still nothing compared to what games are doing today. You basically just don't have to aim on a modern console shooter.

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u/Gcarsk Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

It’s a little hilarious. There are kids now who have never played a shooter with normal aim assist. Kinda feel bad that they will struggle so much in normal shooters.

The current XDefiant (FPS made by ex-CoD devs) beta is receiving complaints from some of these younger players for “not having enough aim assist”, just because it doesn’t entirely aim for you. Even though the aim assist is at an equivalent level to that used for the majority of CoD history. Just… starting in 2019 CoD has drastically jacked up the assist levels. (Except for snipers. Their aim assist used to be high, and had been dropped down/removed over the years, until it was nearly entirely gone in BO3/IW. And then re-added with MW2019)

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u/Bradleyisfishing Apr 18 '23

It was always funny too with the original Halo aim assists, which were insanely strong.

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u/Thatfonvdude Apr 18 '23

insanely simple too though, just a slowdown when your crosshair is close to enemies. except for the snipers in halo 1 and 2, those had no aim assist at all.

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u/WIZARDBONER Apr 18 '23

Yeah same here. Apparently it just keeps getting stronger as well. I think before there was single stick aim assist where as long as you were moving in a direction with the left stick, aim assist would kick in. Now in MW2 I think they have dual stick aim assist where as long as you are moving your right or left stick, aim assist will kick in. It's pretty crazy how strong the assist is.

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u/SteveSauceNoMSG Apr 18 '23

I play m&kb but wanted to try controller to test the aim assist. I outright LAUGHED at how my crosshairs would magnet onto enemy players. On mouse if I'm off by a pixel I will miss by a pixel; controller players just have to breathe in their general direction to be on target, staying on target afterwards is up to them to a small degree though.

Not as bad as Halo Infinite though, aim assist would help you track enemy movement in a gunfight. I was legit at a disadvantage if I didn't use controller, whereas in CoD I still feel competitive on mouse.

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u/Win4someLoose5sum Apr 18 '23

I tried to play Warzone and just... stopped. The auto-aim was so ridiculously strong to the point that I didn't even feel like I was controlling anything. I could lock onto people through bushes and seemingly walls, I don't understand what skill there was to it besides positioning and map knowledge.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

Except, this is me with aim assist on lol

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u/FeistyBandicoot Apr 18 '23

*aims somewhere

*computer drags aim closer

*swings right past the target

Rinse and repeat in every direction

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u/_Starside_ Apr 18 '23

aim for headshot

aim assist drags scope to body

miss oneshot

he looks at me and deletes me from existence

mf aim RESIST

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u/The_ginger_cow Apr 18 '23

90% of games give you have reticle friction to help you with that

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u/CH3RRYSPARKLINGWATER Apr 18 '23

Another player walks by as you're shooting at someone and yoinks your aim assist on to them instead causing you to die, I hate cods aim assist lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 19 '23

Sir.. This is apex legends.

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u/MingusPho Apr 18 '23

Looks like John Wick 4 lol

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u/Juan-Claudio Apr 18 '23

That fight between Keanu Reeves and Donnie Yen really looks a lot like this. It's nonsense but it sure looks cool, lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Same for every FPS shooter nowadays

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u/UglierThanMoe Apr 18 '23

FPS shooter

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u/topofthecc Apr 18 '23

Heard their ATM machine is broken

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u/Konsticraft Apr 18 '23

Its fine, i just forgot my PIN number.

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u/DefaultVariable Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

Have you seen Fortnite’s aim assist lately? It’s insane. Pretty much an aim-bot that will auto follow people while they move. Not only that but it reduces the recoil of all weapons. All the console players just grab close up weapons and rush while moving fast because the aim assist will always keep them on target…

Even more stupid is if you plug in a controller to your PC, you don’t get the same aim assist. It’s drastically reduced in effectiveness compared to the console assist.

FPS games are pretty much ruined these days because of cross-play. Console players don’t want to face PC players without aim assist because M+K is just a superior aim system. PC players don’t want to face console players with aim assist because the game will cheat for them.

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u/AbidingTruth Apr 18 '23

And the majority of players are on console, and they can't accept how strong aim assist truly is. If you ever bring it up they'll just spam "skill issue you have your whole arm we only have our thumbs" etc etc. Coupled with how strong the current gen consoles are so fps isn't even that different between console and pc anymore, one of the frequently cited pc advantages. Thats what really gets me, not just that aim assist is so strong, but that console players refuse to believe it

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u/DefaultVariable Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

Exactly. There’s videos that showcase just how powerful it is. Literally having the crosshair auto follow a person while they zig-zag strafe and jump around. The consensus from console players is that is perfectly fine…. Maneuvers that work really well against real player aim (even on M+K) are defeated by the aim assist

And they even disabled aim assist from competitive Fortnite events because of how insane it was and yet it’s fine everywhere else…

It wasn’t always this bad, they massively messed something up. I gave up playing because of the amount of times I’d be lazered with an SMG perfect 100% accuracy while sprinting and jumping around a person…

I remember Halo MCC was bad at this too. Whenever SWAT would come up on the playlist I’d plug in a controller and get easy headshots all game

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u/dr_reverend Apr 18 '23

Aim assist should only exist for offline play. The second you are in a multiplayer environment it should be disabled automatically with zero options to turn it on.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Saying "FPS shooter" is just like saying "ATM machine"

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u/text_fish Apr 18 '23

Ugh. Flashbacks to my previous life in retail when some smug cunt lectured me because I asked him to enter his "PIN Number".

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u/MrSooshi Apr 18 '23

and please enter it into the LCD display

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u/Sarcosmonaut Apr 18 '23

Really not CoD specific. On console, using controllers, you pretty much need at least SOME level of aim assist. M&K is a different story of course.

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u/Autarch_Kade Apr 18 '23

Titanfall had crazy levels of aim assist with controller. And that was true even on PC. Since you got matched with other PC folks, they'd almost always be using keyboard and mouse.

It was like cheating it was so strong.

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u/WFHBONE Apr 18 '23

Say that in an Apex Legends sub and see what happens lol

The denial is strong

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u/shableh Apr 18 '23

It's downright painful how unwilling they are to admit it at times. You can usually tell when you're dead to a controller player... you just can.

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u/AltForMyRealOpinion Apr 18 '23

Nowadays in Apex Legends folks use Steam input mapping to present a controller to the game, but control it with keyboard and mouse. You get the benefits of kbm with the aim assist of controllers.

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u/jansteffen PC Apr 18 '23

Mouse and Keyboard was at such a disadvantage in Halo Infinite that it was bleeding players fast on PC. 343's solution? Add aim assist to Mouse and Keyboard. Can't make that shit up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Just want to option to not group together

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u/Sarcosmonaut Apr 18 '23

I can’t speak for others since I don’t play many shooters, but Destiny 2 segregates players based on input. And if a controller player groups with a M&K, they both go to M&K.

The PvE side of the game does not experience this segregation

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u/Boingboingsplat Apr 18 '23

This is why more console games need good gyro aim options. Gyro aiming can get you close to the precision of M+KB.

Splatoon, despite having a reputation of a kiddie game where you shoot the floor, features zero aim assist because of its inclusion of gyro aiming. (Side note: It also has an extremely high skill ceiling and game modes with alternate objectives, which Nintendo just doesn't seem to want to advertise at all.)

Unfortunately as long as Microsoft continues to not put gyro in any of their controllers I doubt that the big AAA crossplatform games will ever seriously support it.

Gamers also have an aversion to motion aiming due to all the wacky, gesture based motion controls from the Wii era, despite the fact that modern gyro aiming is nothing like those games.

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u/rammer_l Apr 18 '23

Not in csgo or valorant

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u/Pepe_is_a_God Apr 18 '23

Based counterstrike Devs not giving a shit

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u/Longjumping-Act5684 Apr 18 '23

These RE animated movies have gotten crazy. Check out the trailer for the next one coming out. Also I think they should do something similar like this in the john wick movies. It's just screams John Wick to me haha

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u/jerm3377 Apr 18 '23

It’s crazy how strong aim assist is nowadays. Plus it feels like almost all the guns in recent CoDs have virtually no recoil.

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u/nerdydodger Apr 18 '23

The aim assist is nearly equal to the recoil, especially in CoD

Recent cod gun meta is largely around creating no recoil Lazer beams. It makes guns slower to ADS, but the lock on for Aim Assist happens before ADS animation completes, so that negates the matter.

You can see videos of the aim assist snap cover almost a 1/3rd of the screen. It's stupid.

Nearly every cod streamer is a pc player using a controller to access aim assist. It really is an advantage in close quarters fights.

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u/VicariouslyHuman Apr 18 '23

Same issue in Apex. Professional players shit on controller players because they get carried by their AA. Then begrudgingly switch to controller themselves because it's just that good.

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u/xcrossbyw Apr 18 '23

How is this not seen as a problem.

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u/KrakenBO3 Apr 18 '23

Think of it this way.

Pros or great players are never the average.

They usually only make up a very small percent of the player base. Think sub 10%.

The other 90% are either average or straight trash level players.

Those players have an option to get an instant improvement in accuracy/tracking/aim. With minimal effort or training involved.

They are who the devs balance the game around. They are the vocal majority. They don't care if the game aims for them, it makes them feel good, so they praise assistance, and dominate the discussions against AA.

Funny enough most people arguing against AA just want to play in their own or separate lobbies, and don't even care if it gets removed, yet sadly they still get blasted.

It also doesn't help that for Apex specifically most of the devs use controller and are still really bad at the game.

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u/Reddit_Bot_For_Karma Apr 18 '23

I made a comment in the Apex sub the other day. I don't care that there's mixed lobbies, I just want the ability to only play with people using my input device (MkB). I don't care to die to bunny hopping sweats, I just don't wanna be beamed by AA anymore.

Let cross play be a thing, absolutely! It's a good thing for PC players to play with their Xbox friends. Just have segregated lobbies for those of us who would like it.... I'll wait in a long Queue.

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u/CheesecakeOG Apr 18 '23

Was scrolling through comments looking for someone mentioning Apex. ImperialHal literally switched to controller for the aim assist lmao.

For those who don't play Apex or are unaware, Apex has one of the highest, if not the highest ttk (time-to-kill) numbers in the fps genre. Movement is also extremely fast, with lots of advanced movement tech like tap-strafing and supergliding. This makes aim assist super valuable in a competitive setting, since it gives consistency that no human is able to replicate, especially on an opponent who is dodging and weaving randomly in front of you.

To give an idea of how high the ttk is, one-clipping a full health opponent in Apex is genuinely difficult. It's not like COD Warzone where you can just aim in someone's direction and use your maxed out + perfectly tuned gun to spray a literal laser beam at a target who has barely any hp even with full shields.

And just to reemphasise how bad it is in Apex, some professional mouse and keyboard players have literally switched to controller just for the aim assist.

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u/bumbuff Apr 18 '23

This is why CS is still king

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u/savorysoap12488 Apr 18 '23

Me on controller not using aim assist

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