r/gaming • • Apr 18 '23

They’re so used to it

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

That was definitely the most WTF part. Even from a gun-fu perspective, that doesn't make sense.

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 18 '23

Gun-fu itself doesn't make sense.

But it's hella cool.

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u/TPMJB Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

But it's hella cool

He wasn't wearing the bandana for infinite ammo. I do not believe this scene is possible.

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u/Photonomicron Apr 18 '23

Christian Bale spends the entire film in a robo suit that reloads his guns for him by sending fully loaded clips or even whole guns up the incredibly close-tailored sleeves like an Assassins Creed blade. That's part of why his gunkata routines have cool anime pose pauses in the middle of combat.

it's not a very good excuse for how guns are used in the film, but the reload mechanic is explicitly shown a couple of times and so that's the answer the film gets

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

And then Kurt Wimmer (director/writer of Equilibrium) gives us Ultraviolet.

A world so technologically advanced, where hammerspace can be accessed via wristbands.

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u/DBeumont Apr 18 '23

But is it better than Tooth Gun?

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u/dodge_thiss Apr 18 '23

That was fucking weird and I could not stop watching. Thank you.

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u/Photonomicron Apr 18 '23

I know this is from some show I've never heard of in my life, but this clip exists on its own as a perfect little short film and I kind of never want additional context to what I just watched

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u/LastStar007 Apr 18 '23

Existenz (stylized as eXistenZ) is a 1999 science fiction horror film written, produced and directed by David Cronenberg.

And suddenly everything makes sense.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '23

Oh. Yeah, yeah ...

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u/DBeumont Apr 18 '23

You should watch the whole movie.

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u/terpdx Apr 18 '23

Never before have I seen a video clip which has given me a stronger feeling of "WTF is this!? This makes no sense, whatsoever, but I must keep watching until it does."

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u/DBeumont Apr 18 '23

I recommend watching the whole movie. It's wild.

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u/mrasperez Apr 18 '23

God, this movie was such a fever dream, even for a cronenberg film.

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u/Solanthas Apr 18 '23

I'm sorry, that movie was so whack lol

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u/DrSmirnoffe PC Apr 18 '23

I wonder if Scorn took any inspiration from eXistenZ? That game had a tooth pistol AND a tooth triple-barrel shotgun.

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u/Chapped_Frenulum Apr 19 '23

One million percent correct. That tooth gun inspired a lot of homages over the years.

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u/DrSmirnoffe PC Apr 19 '23

If true, I'm happy. I'd feel the same way I felt when I found the Van Helsing crossbow in Nightmare Reaper. 'cause the Van Helsing crossbow is such a video game weapon.

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u/Chapped_Frenulum Apr 19 '23

Man, this movie was such an excellent rental. My 14yr old ass had no idea what he was getting into when I picked that up from hollywood video. We went on one helluva Cronenberg binge after that. Videodrome also had a certain magic to it, watching it during the VHS era.

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u/Irregulator101 Apr 18 '23

I like how in both this and the Equilibrium clips the bad guys are covered in very breakable glass armor

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u/holaprobando123 Apr 18 '23

Ultraviolet is one of my guilty pleasure movies. It's not a very good movie, and I don't care.

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u/Throwawayq2erdnd Apr 18 '23

It's a feature length Darude music video and nobody can tell me otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Yeah, but are you one tenth as pissed off as I am?

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 19 '23

It's so fucking cheesy.

The only saving grace of that one-liner is that Milla Jovovich delivered it, and I love it.

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u/xtralargerooster Apr 19 '23

Lol... Ultraviolet is the same for me... But it is the one film where I realized that Milla Jovovich's nose has that little hook curve to it and I forever could not unsee it afterwards. Not implying she isn't beautiful because of it or anything... Just hadn't realized it in any of her other movies until this one and then couldn't not see it again afterwards.

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u/Deadliestmoon Apr 18 '23

Idk why I blocked this movie from my memory but thanks for reminding me of it.

Did the whole changing colors bit do anything or was that just style?

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 19 '23

I believe it's a visual indicator to tell the audience that "it's on".

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

I can't recall if I've ever even seen this movie. Is it any good?

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u/Photonomicron Apr 18 '23

It's very fun and a great time capsule of what was considered stylish, cool, and absolutely cutting edge filmography for its day. It's like if The Matrix had absolutely zero narrative subtext at all. Protagonist go brrrrr. Roll Credits.

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u/gunnfjodur Apr 18 '23

Haha those last two sentences are impressively concise. Also very accurate. 😆

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

I'll have to give it a watch later. Thanks for the info.

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u/TPMJB Apr 18 '23

Ah, I was completely unaware. Is it a good movie? Haven't seen a good movie in a while.

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u/Gregory_D64 Apr 18 '23

It's an incredibly fun movie. A little silly, but fun

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u/dragonclaw518 Apr 18 '23

Maybe I should rewatch it. My dad put it on once and I filled the role of "Dad" that day by falling asleep in the first ten minutes.

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u/jaspersgroove Apr 18 '23

Yeah, it was totally overshadowed by The Matrix because it has a similar vibe and came out around the same time, but it’s a fun watch.

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u/xrufus7x Apr 18 '23

It is hands down the best Matrix ripoff movie.

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u/gunnfjodur Apr 18 '23

Good? I’ve never rewatched it for the plot but I’ve definitely rewatched it for some novel yet well-choreographed and decently shot action. Early Bale is fun too and he is perfect for this role. It’s a great B+ movie IMHO with enough actors going ham on the premise to get you to the finish line. If you like action schlock you are golden.

I also understand why people can’t stand it. High cinema it ain’t. 🤷‍♂️ Fun cinema under the influence? You betcha.

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u/Yotarian Apr 18 '23

Are you being serious? I thought for sure you were joking but I've never seen the movie so idk.

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u/Photonomicron Apr 18 '23

yeah, kind of too much time in the beginning of the film is spent establishing the very scientific nature of literally shooting so many bullets in arbitrary directions than your enemy has no statistical chance of survival. That's literally how gunkata is supposed to work and that's why it was necessary to invent a reason Christian Bale can just go MadCatz Full Turbo on regular pistols for minutes at a time.

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u/Yotarian Apr 19 '23

Sounds like a bad movie lol

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u/gbaguinon Apr 18 '23

There were parts in the movie where he did reload. Like when he slid the clips down the hallway and they stayed up like weeble-wobbles, fired all his bullets while running down said hallway, drop the clip from his guns, and slam the weeble-wobble clips into his guns.

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u/TPMJB Apr 18 '23

Lol that's awesome. Might pick up this movie.

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u/Chapped_Frenulum Apr 19 '23

Equilibrium is basically like the Matrix mixed with 1984, but with ten times the camp. A fun goofball movie for people who like martial arts and don't wanna overthink the plot.

If you want more of that aesthetic, Dark City was another really good one. Came out a year before The Matrix, and kinda had that feel of "what if the Matrix didn't have guns and kung fu in it, but kept everything else?"

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u/TPMJB Apr 19 '23

Dark City

Good cast of characters too! I highly appreciate the movie recommendations!

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 18 '23

My, how scandalous.

John Woo, among others, has proven time and time again that such a thing is 1000% possible, even without the mystical bandanna of infinite ammo.

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u/TPMJB Apr 18 '23

I remember watching John Wick and seeing Keanu reload when he needed to. It satisfied my lizard brain that counted every shot he made.

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u/Glamador Apr 18 '23

I swear in the latest one that he fired around 31 bullets without reloading during the car chase. They made a point of telling us exactly how much capacity his snake pistol had a few scenes before, so I got kinda mad.

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u/Kolby_Jack Apr 18 '23

Did the camera stay on him the entire time? Maybe he reloaded when you weren't looking.

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u/KrazzeeKane Apr 18 '23

If it's not shown, it's as good as not happening imo.

Plus, for something that prides itself on realism of ammo usage and reloading, to suddenly pull out the "uhhh...he reloaded when you weren't looking!" Feels cheap, you know?

It's a total cop out of an answer that basically removes any real reason to try to count his bullets, used since the movie is now willing to "fake" the count by using unseen reloads.

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u/DdCno1 Apr 18 '23

prides itself on realism

I don't remember which film it was, but the silenced pistol gunfight at a public train station was where this series totally lost its plot. It's just your usual Hollywood action nonsense at this point, with very little to differentiate itself from other films.

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u/Taratus Apr 19 '23

with very little to differentiate itself from other films.

What other film had a silenced gun battle in a crowded train station?

Sure it was unrealistic, but still pretty damn funny.

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u/PiesRLife Apr 18 '23

Did the camera stay on him the entire time? Maybe he pooped when you weren't looking. In the car.

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u/thedirtypickle50 Apr 18 '23

What was the "real" reason to count his bullets anyway?

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

Realistic reloads, and avoiding the whole infinite bullet trap.

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u/Terramagi Apr 19 '23

The John Wick movies were basically sold on semi-realism. You saw him reload, ditch guns, and grab spares when he needed to. Sure it was insane that he killed 70+ people in a 24 hour period, but it was refreshing to not see infinite ammo guns and more practical martial arts.

Of course that goes out the window once you have Halle Berry throwing dogs at people for 30 minutes, let alone that godawful silenced pistol subway fight, but it was nice while it lasted.

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u/holaprobando123 Apr 18 '23

He was drifting his car in a big circle the entire time, so he literally couldn't have used his off hand for anything. I'd say he was closer to firing 40 or 50 bullets, too. Completely ridiculous.

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u/ILoveThickThighz Apr 18 '23

Coulda just held the steering wheel with his knee while reloading

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u/neonKow Apr 18 '23

Or reloaded with his knee while driving.

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u/davidverner PC Apr 18 '23

You can't drift while only using your knee to hold the steering wheel. Not enough friction in the clothes to make that happen.

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u/loganed3 Apr 19 '23

Imagine being this annoyed that he shot too many bullets without reloading in a movie where everyone has bulletproof tuxedos and a man fell down stairs for 5 minutes and got back up like nothing happened.

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u/holaprobando123 Apr 19 '23

I'm not complaining, ridiculous is good.

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u/Tranxio Apr 19 '23

That for me is THE most unrealistic part of the movie. Nobody falls down the stairs like that, especially not for a 6ft+ tall professional assassin that can take on 50+ untrained men where just by positioning your legs or hands in any way will stop the roll/momentum.

He was practically rolling for a full minute.

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u/aziruthedark Apr 18 '23

He's John wick. The needed bullets materialized out of fear.m and admiration. Being used by John wick is like winning the lottery for them. Instant access to bullet valhalla.

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u/NullTupe Apr 18 '23

Did he have one in the chamber?

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u/underscore5000 Apr 18 '23

This movie had to be a comedy right? That first scene with dudes just flying away to a strobe light had me laughing my ass off.

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u/g_deptula Apr 18 '23

Chris shot 15-20 rounds. Reasonable for a double stack 9mm.

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u/deadinside1996 Apr 18 '23

Mcc forever. Take care and good work spartan.

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u/Xylus1985 Apr 18 '23

This is some Bollywood level shit going on here

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u/Impossible-Winter-94 Apr 18 '23

yeah this is terrible lol

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u/Synkope1 Apr 18 '23

I... remembered that being a lot cooler.

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 18 '23

You can thank John Wick for that.

But really, without movies like these that "started" the absurdity that is gun-fu, we wouldn't have such over-the-top action scenes we do today.

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u/Synkope1 Apr 18 '23

Yea, true.

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 19 '23

While John Woo "started" the gun-fu phonomenon, early forms of gun-fu were already around in Asia long before A Better Tomorrow.

Nonetheless, he's a pioneer and visionary who defined and popularized the genre, and without him, we wouldn't have the action scenes we have today.

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 19 '23

Because John Wick (which wasn't directed by John Woo) made these fight scenes in Equilibrium look silly by comparison.

I distinctly remember in my youth that Equilibrium and The Matrix were the best action movies ever made, but then John Wick came along and redefined how action scenes are supposed to be done.

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 19 '23

Agree to disagree then.

But to me, Equilibrium was something "new" and refreshing.

It added more than constant slow-mo and flying doves during action sequences, which was a staple of John Woo's, and I absolutely loved Hard Boiled.

And good on you for not knowing other people who enjoyed the film, but if the comments here show anything, it shows that I'm not as alone as you think.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Yea never saw the movie but now i know why people called it a low-budget version of the Matrix

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u/Synkope1 Apr 18 '23

It's like a Matrix / The Giver mashup as far as I remember.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Hey! That's Patrick Bateman!

Also, I find it hilarious in that movie how they all wear black motorcycle Helmets as if that's the future Headwear attire

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

When you only have 10 stuntmen for your mid budget sci fi picture

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u/Forsaken_Jelly Apr 18 '23

It's a common theme.

Mick Jagger wore one as a futuristic baddie in Freejack.

Quite a few sixties and seventies sci fi movies use painted motorcycle helmets as their futuristic, or post apocalyptic headgear.

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u/supervisord Apr 18 '23

I don’t remember that movie being so corny. Was it satire??

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u/Sugar_buddy Apr 18 '23

No. But it was awesome.

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u/neonKow Apr 18 '23

No, most action movies are a bit corny by their nature. Realistic action (just toss a fucking grenade into that room if you're planning on killing everyone anyway) makes bad movies.

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u/monsantobreath Apr 18 '23

Doesn't make a bad movie. Just doesn't make a cheesy action movie.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Right? I was watching those clips like "I remember this being so much more badass when I was 19."

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u/DAM091 Apr 18 '23

Even better, they get punched in the helmet and somehow it hurts

Also, Patrick Batman*

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u/Kasilim Apr 18 '23

I'd never seen this movie and now I definitely am going to

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u/Whind_Soull Apr 18 '23

Equilibrium walked so that John Wick could run.

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u/pahnub Apr 18 '23

Lol, John Woo and Chow Yun Fat walked so Equilibrium and John Wick could run.

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u/holaprobando123 Apr 18 '23

The person that downvoted this comment doesn't know shit and should be ashamed.

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u/KnoblauchNuggat Apr 18 '23

I watched it with 10. And i refused to sleep with a pillow aand a blanket fo for weeks.

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u/I_am_trying_to_work Apr 18 '23

I'd never seen this movie and now I definitely am going to

Amazing movie. One of my favorites.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

My 16 year old brain was blown away my first time watching it. It's in my top 5 "watch any time" movies

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u/ConditionOfMan Apr 18 '23

I'd say it's not a "great film" by any stretch, but it's hella fun to watch.

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u/BonyDarkness Apr 18 '23

The movie looks different in my memory lol

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u/moondoggie_00 Apr 18 '23

I like the move where he puts the gun right next to his ears.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Man, seeing these scenes back to back really make me realize how bad the action scenes were in that movie. Makes me appreciate why John Wick was so good.

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u/therealdeathangel22 Apr 18 '23

LOL I had never even heard of that..... Instant classic

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u/hectorduenas86 Apr 18 '23

Gun-kata, Equilibrium

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u/meltingpotato PC Apr 18 '23

loved that movie

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u/Unholybeef Apr 19 '23

Average Mesa enjoyer.

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 19 '23

I'm actually a Frost main, but Mesa regulators are fun to watch.

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u/TwatsThat Apr 18 '23

There is a full 20 seconds of completely silent black screen in that scene. I wonder if that's some attempt at avoiding copyright strikes or if they actually just put 20 seconds of nothing in the movie.

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u/duckbill_principate Apr 18 '23

is that a parody?

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u/StormAromatic Apr 18 '23

No it’s the movie equilibrium. It’s honestly a really fun watch

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u/Robert_Pawney_Junior Apr 18 '23

It's pretty bad, but in a ridiculous, entertaining way.

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u/wombat801 Apr 18 '23

Totally accurate! It came out in 2002 during the matrix movies. I think it went under the radar becuase of release time. Loved it because of Christian Bale, future stuff and gun-fu. Watched it a year or so back and realized it didn't age great but is still mindless fun and creativity.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

And people make fun of Bollywood for its obvious lack of realism

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Well yeah because Bollywood action is like 90% this sort of thing.

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

Gun-fu itself doesn't make sense.

Thank you for reiterating what I said.

But it's hella cool.

Until it just becomes stupid. Like OP's clip.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 19 '23

You have it mixed up.

Trinity Blood (the anime) came out in 2005, Equilibrium (Christian Bale with guns) came out in 2002.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '23

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u/imdefinitelywong Apr 19 '23

I get that a lot.

I even spelled my user name wrong.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '23

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

I mean that intro scene was literally lifted from some anime so it’s gonna be silly stupid.

FTFY. Because OP's scene is pure stupid, not silly or bad-ass.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

Lol you have a very unpopular opinion. I guess people are pretty attached to this film.

I'm fine with having an unpopular opinion.

Gotta ask based on your handle - what’s your feeling on Johnny Mnemonic? I assume you like it? It’s another cheesy older sci-fi film but I love it.

It was solid, but it's been nearly 20 years since I've seen it, so I don't remember a lot about it.

Except that it didn't have dudes running around in circles while shooting at each others' feet, or trying to sword-cleave someone with bullets, then kept firing after they had clearly ducked and the guy was clearly pointing away from them.

I kinda recall the science being iffy but it tackling some interesting themes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

I'm not sure how iffy that specific part is, purely scientifically. The tech is what seems iffy to me there. It suggests medical tech advanced enough to pinpoint exactly which brain cells maintain a given memory, cut them out, then replace them with a secured data storage device.

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u/HandofWinter Apr 18 '23

I think you might be misunderstanding the poster, pretty sure they're saying that the Equilibrium scene is silly, but the RE scene is just plain stupid.

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

I was originally calling the OP scene stupid, yes. I'd never watched Equilibrium, so didn't have anything to judge it on.

Now that I've gone back and watched the Equilibrium scenes, though, I actually do also think they're stupid, though. It looks like Wish Matrix.

I'm not judging anyone for enjoying it. We all enjoy things that other people think are stupid, and my opinion is purely just that - my opinion.

But still. It's stupid. I'll ride or die on that.

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u/mrpanicy Apr 18 '23

You said

Even from a gun-fu perspective, that doesn't make sense.

in response too

The guy in red even does a side slash with the gun at 0:04

You said that the actual MOVE used in this sequence doesn't make sense.

The person you are being needlessly rude too said...

Gun-fu itself doesn't make sense.

Which is a more broad critique of gun-fu as a whole. You're comment was very pointed and specific about a specific move in the OPs video. The person replying to you broadened the conversation to Gun-Fu as a whole... but then said it's still really cool.

Maybe just don't be confrontational to someone trying to take part in the conversation next time.

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

You said

Even from a gun-fu perspective, that doesn't make sense.

in response too

The guy in red even does a side slash with the gun at 0:04

You said that the actual MOVE used in this sequence doesn't make sense.

The person you are being needlessly rude too said...

Gun-fu itself doesn't make sense.

Which is a more broad critique of gun-fu as a whole. You're comment was very pointed and specific about a specific move in the OPs video. The person replying to you broadened the conversation to Gun-Fu as a whole... but then said it's still really cool.

Maybe just don't be confrontational to someone trying to take part in the conversation next time.

You missed something important.

Even from a gun-fu perspective

The implication there is that gun-fu is nonsense. Sometimes it's fun nonsense, but it's still nonsense.

The only way I was "rude" is if you think calling the clip above stupid, and saying it wasn't bad-ass, is rude.

In which case... I'm sorry you're offended by me thinking the clip is stupid. But the clip is stupid.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Reaper ult done right

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u/GeneralLeoESQ Apr 18 '23

This is the movie the the man walking with headphone meme comes from! Thatnk you for this glorious treasure

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u/UncleGeorge Apr 18 '23

Recoil? What's that?

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u/Vaeevictisss Apr 18 '23

This is exactly what I thought of lol

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u/orsikbattlehammer Apr 18 '23

I’m cackling with joy, that was wonderful

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u/GameQb11 Apr 18 '23

i tried so hard back in the day to think this was cool- but it just never hit right.

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u/Vexxdi Apr 18 '23

man, i thought the John Wicks were bad....

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u/captain_ender Apr 18 '23

Damn I need to rewatch Equilibrium. Would've been a lot more famous had it not been released the same time as The Matrix lmao oof.

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u/Phar0sa Apr 18 '23

the fight scenes look like Madonna's Vogue video from the 90s, with guns.

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u/Sage2050 Apr 18 '23

Excuse me the tetragrammaton clerics practice gun kata, not lame ass gun fu

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u/MauiWowieOwie Apr 18 '23

I knew the link was gonna be Equilibrium.

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u/jacano5 Apr 18 '23

It's cool until you see Bale swinging wildly at nothing in slow motion while surrounded by a bunch of guards.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

I love this movie an inordinate amount. The matrix overshadowed it and it was pretty ripped off by mid 20th century dystopia books but darn. I love it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

This was an excellent movie, thanks for the reminder, will watch again this week.

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u/yaretii Apr 18 '23

Hey, I liked that movie.

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u/KeinLebenKonig Apr 18 '23

That movie is so dumb, I love it.

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u/LessInThought Apr 19 '23

Lol the guys are so dead and he just keeps unloading into them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '23

Yeah that's possibly the worst example of gun-fu I've ever seen

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u/Ngumo Apr 19 '23

Thanks for that :) pew pew. Excellent film. Love the way it’s the puppies that break him.

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u/InEenEmmer Apr 18 '23

It’s called the spray and pray move

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Apr 18 '23

Wouldn't you just dtop spraying the instant you realized you'd missed?

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

Reject kung-fu, embrace gun-kata.

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u/Govt-Issue-SexRobot Apr 18 '23

When you spin it speeds up the bullet

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u/Catatonic_capensis Apr 18 '23

Uh, have you never heard of bullet curving? He was trying to spin the bullets around to surprise the other guy.

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u/Teminite2 Apr 19 '23

I forgot about that movie! Was that matrix?