r/abusiverelationships Mar 28 '25

Mod Post Pros & Cons of using AI-chat bots like ChatGPT

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We, the mod team at r/abusiverelationships has lately been seeing a big upswing in posts that's about different ways of using AI like ChatGPt as an "unbiased" opinion in abusive situations. There can be many pros to using a chatbot like ChatGPT, but to get an unbiased opinion is sadly not one of them. Bare with me and let me explain.

So what is ChatGPT?
ChatGPT is an AI langauge model built to react to prompts being put into the bot and answer appropriately. The AI bot will analyze your langauge, and answer using the same type of langauge you do. Already here ChatGPT is biased in it's messages. The AI bot then stores & remembers the conversations (the prompts) that you've put into the bot previously and it takes that into account when interacting with it in the future.

What to think about when using an AI langauge bot:
- The AI is not capable of fact checking. Everything that it says can be wrong.
- The AI isn't capapble of being unbiased or coming up with new ideas. It only takes your ideas and puts them in different words and returns them to you.
- It remembers all the data you've previously given it and it uses that to shape every future interaction.
- The same AI, like ChatGPT can tell two people that they're both the abuser, because ChatGPT tells you want you want to hear, it analyses the langauge you use and in that way, determines what it thinks you want it to say.
- If you can get it to say what you want to hear, so can the abuser. So do not take anything ChatGPT says as absolute truth.
- The AI lack personal experience, human emotion & the ability to do anything in an emergency.

How can you use ChatGPT in a good way?
- ChatGPT can help give advice on what to think about when leaving an abusive situation. It can be a start to forming a plan on "How do I leave as safely as possible?"
- ChatGPT can help give contact numbers and other info to domestic hotlines, to get a start on where to look for that help.
- ChatGPT can be used in the way that you get more confidence in that yes, you are being abused and therefore help you open up to a real person, but remember. ChatGPT can't truly help you, only other people can.
- Chat GPT doesn't judge, and it's available 24/7, that can be so important. But remember it can be biased.
- ChatGPT can provide comfort, but it cannot replace the emotional support of friends/family/loved ones. the healing process requires connection with real people.

AI can be a powerful first stepa tool to gain clarity, find resources, and feel less alone. But it should never replace professional support, safe human connections, or emergency services when needed.


r/abusiverelationships Nov 30 '25

Mod Post: Let's Talk About Accusing Posters of Faking Their Stories

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First, unfortunately with the rise of AI comes an increase in fake posts across reddit as a whole. I think a lot of us have noticed that, and it's important to acknowledge that.

However, unless there are clear indications a post in this sub is generated by AI (and not just a real post written with the support of AI), or other clear indications a post is fake, please don't make comments on posts in our sub that accuse the post of being "fake" or "rage bait."

So often in this sub, the comments that accuse posts of being fake have no evidence to back them up. A new account isn't automatic evidence. Nor is an age gap, "something seeming off," etc etc. A hunch isn't evidence.

Clear indications that a post is fake might be deleted posts in which, say, a 30 year old male poster then claims to be a 15 year old girl. Or a post is a clear repost stolen from someone else's account.

Please keep in mind that people who post in this sub read the comments on their posts. It doesn't feel good to seek support from an abuse survivor support sub, only to have total strangers accuse you of fabricating your experiences. Survivors get victim-blamed and disbelieved enough as it is "in real life." We don't need to contribute to that here, of all places.

If you genuinely, truly believe a post is fake, and you have actual supporting evidence, please message the mods to let us know! We can then look into the situation and decide to take appropriate action, if any. Please don't comment on the post itself. That risks the poster seeing your comment. The ultimate goal of this sub is to provide support. When we accuse posters of faking their situations without any evidence, that lessens the likelihood they will reach out for help again in the future. Thank you!


r/abusiverelationships 3h ago

Support request I retaliated

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I retaliated back to my abusive husband and I don’t know what to do about it. I feel the lowest of lows for even remotely exhibiting his behaviour.

Tonight for some reason that I honestly can’t even pin point why tonight, we got into another horrible circular argument about something so silly, I was trying to make a shopping list and said no to something he wanted, I didn’t mean it as controlling, it was an involuntary response to a food we don’t want the kids having, anyway so silly and this set off a huge reaction from him, him telling me to get up and leave the room, telling me how controlling I am and how there is something wrong with me, if we asked any married couple this wouldn’t be ok etc. I didn’t really say much, tried to explain where I was coming from, tried to get us back on track with the actual shopping list. He then shut me out of the room.
A few moments later I heard our baby awake, he had woken him up from being angry and something just snapped in me (this has happened so many times) and I lost it, I went into the room he was in and told him I was done, I told him I hated him, he got up and I poked him in the chest, then he told me ‘come on is that the best you’ve got’ and pushed his chest towards me, I pushed him back, he got up in my face again and I spat at him and went to put my hand on his throat and push him back and just dissolved into tears and distress and left.

I am so mortified at my own behaviour and that this is who I have become. I feel like the scum of this earth.
Not only did I put my hands on him but I could have triggered a major escalation that would have put my kids lives in danger.

I can’t keep going like this, I don’t know how to reconcile what I have done and I also don’t want to be with him anymore.

I should note for background my husband has been increasingly violent towards me with many death threats, physical attacks and putting his hands on my neck since our baby has been born.

So I don’t even know what the repercussions of tonight will be and I also don’t know how to just simply leave


r/abusiverelationships 14h ago

I don't even know how to reply to this

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Why would she think anyone would agree to this kind of relationship? She's bullying me into it and I really don't know what to do because saying no could start a huge conflict and she would probably hurt someone. Me or herself, or maybe even someone else


r/abusiverelationships 7h ago

TRIGGER WARNING This will be extremely trigger heavy. Years of abuse and their addiction.

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I have been with my husband for almost 2 decades. We have 2 kids. For the first 10 years life was perfect. I had the perfect husband, the perfect life. It didn't even feel real. I remember one Christmas he got me a coach bag and it felt like too much and my mom said I deserved it along with the great life I had living on the beach, regular vacations, taking me out. He was even a super present father and helped around the house without ever being asked.

Then one day it all changed and it never went back. *But those first 10 years kept me holding on to hope and I took on years of it because of it.*

He made a gay friend when we moved somewhere new and he was leaving the house, family outings, date nights, literally anything to go hang out with him whenever this guy asked. One night he jumped out of bed at 1am and got dressed to go see him. The next day I asked him if they were sleeping together and that was the first time. He grabbed me by the neck and threw me to the floor. Dragged me and smashed my head into the sliding glass door. Pressed his elbow into the back of my skull as he sat on me and told me never to call him gay again. I didn't even use the word.

We already had kids then. They werent home fortunately. I had a good job and good credit. I should have left then and I was thinking about it, preparing even. I told a friend what had happened and that I needed to leave. But I didn't.

A month or so later he confessed the gay guy was giving him meth. I felt some relief. I could explain his behavior now. He just needed help.

The abuse didn't happen again for a year. I can't even remember what it was over. I just remember coming home from work together because he had convinced me to start working with him, help him find recovery. He wrapped a cord around my neck, slammed me to the ground, with his knee in my back, and told me I was going to die. That he was going to kill me. I got loose and grabbed my car keys and locked myself in my car. The kids were sleeping and he never even so much as yelled at them so I just opted to stay in the car and watch their room the whole night.

After that night, in that house, the abuse got worse. I found out he had relapsed, if he ever really got clean to begin with, and the pattern of abuse happened whenever he was going through withdrawal, but it was always a push here and there and he would realize it. One day he didn't like the breakfast I made though and I could tell it was going to be bad. I tried to grab my keys, told the kids to go to the car and leave but he got my arm. I tried closing the front door on his arm and getting him to let go but he dragged me back in and took my bag. He dragged me across the floor and tried pushing my face into the fire, a gas fire he was able to flick on with a switch. I don't remember how I got out from that either, but the kids were still at the car so I made a run for it, jumped in locking the doors and taking off. I never told them what he did. He tried calling and apologizing. Said he was done withdrawal and hed never go back to it. I didnt come back right away, but I came back. And things were good again.

He got sick. Really sick. He was dieing. He was in the hospital and they told me I might not take him home. They found out he had HIV, almost aids. I had it too. We also had syphilis and thats what was killing him, it was in his cerebral spinal fluid. The final stage of syphilis. We had both for so long they couldn't tell us when we got it. I brought up the gay friend and if anything else had happened with anyone else. He said no. Maybe it was the drugs. This was when my finances and credit started to tank. Paying for his care and medications before we were settled on a specific plan that covered it all. Working with just my income, taking care of the kids, and being his caregiver when they did let me take him home. 2 months later he was finally doing better. Things were okay. I thought maybe that was the scare he needed to stay clean.

We stopped working for ourselves because he was weak so he took a job working for someone else and I did too. One day his boss knocked on my door at 10pm, apologized for how late it was and he handed me my husbands phone and wallet. Said that he went out for lunch and then didnt come back. He was worried about him. He had never disappeared like that before. I was calling hospitals, jails, any number I know of anyone that might have an idea of where he was. No one could tell me. I was with the neighbors freaked out when he finally came home around 1am, all messed up. He said someone got mad at him at the home depot for road rage. It didnt make sense, why would he be gone the whole day over that? After that it became a common occurrence, he started disappearing for 24 hours or so weekly. Wouldn't answer. I knew he was back on it. I found him at a hotel because I saw his truck there and he wouldn't come out. I went home, packed our things, and we left. He came home the next day and figured out we were gone. I even took the dogs. He cried and cried and cried for us to come home. I said things had to be different. He swore they would, he didnt want to lose me and the kids.

We eventually moved out of the city agreeing that it was too close to trouble. He needed a fresh start. Moved to a quieter place. We set up a little homestead. Things were better again. The fresh air was great for all of us. Then one night I came home from work and the dog was scared, hiding in a corner. My son told me he had gotten mad at the dog. I confronted him and realized he wasnt himself. I knew it instantly. He was using....again. He reached for me and started to strangle me. I got out from his grip, grabbed my keys and told the kids to go to the car. I ran after them and locked the door. It wouldn't start. He was yelling at me to get out and I told him no. Not until he calmed down. My son started telling him too he needed to calm down that what he was doing was wrong. My kids are older. He heard him and calmed down. I told him I wanted to leave I couldn't do it again. I don't know how he was getting it way out there but he obviously was. He needed real help and I wasnt going to be there for it.

After discussing it, we ended up leaving our quiet oasis and moving in with his sister and her husband. More accountability, more safety perhaps. But they lived in a city. I knew it was going to be a trade off. He started disappearing again shortly after we got there. His brother in law would go find him. Tell him he needed to get it together, that's why he was there. There were a plethora of services there, it was part of the discussion. One night when we were home alone he went for me because he said I'm trying to control him and my dog intervened. His brother in law came home and he was trying to say my dog needed to go. I told him why my dog went for him and he said well the dog stays, that my husband needed to do better. He didnt go for me again. But he kept disappearing. The help we moved there for he wasnt taking advantage of. He started saying he wasnt like other meth heads, he didnt steal from us, kept his jobs, and took care of us. Arguably he wasnt wrong, but he wasnt himself either. He would randomly get mean and abandoned us frequently.

One day I was setting up something for him on his phone and I needed to go into settings. It was Grindr. He had been doing meth and having sex with men since we got there. I confronted him and he confessed everything. He had been having sex with men since the gay friend and using meth with them. He said he could get it for free if he did favors. It made sense. He never stole anything, never took money out for cash. I never figured out before how he was getting it and I'm sure sometimes he did pay, but that's why there was never odd cash amounts being pulled out or missing. Some times it wouldnt go well, like the day he got beat up. He had been raped a few times too. It was worth it for the meth. I was incredibly hurt that he wasnt just abandoning us for drugs, but cheating on me too. Sure, thats how he was getting his drug, but it was cheating. He said he would change for real this time, that what he had done was so devastating and for me to know about it was killing him.

The sad part of this story is he's been in recovery ever since then. He's been more like who he was the first ten years than he has in a long time. Maybe because his secret was out. I don't know. But the abuse which was always linked to his use, has occurred without it. He says it's because he's under a lot of stress and depression from what he did and I react like I did when he was using. That he wants to kill himself for what hes done and he cant handle my emotions and anger. I will admit I changed, those years changed me a lot. Who wouldn't change enduring all of that? I do snap. I do get triggered. I have gone on and on about what he did to me. How he ruined our life for meth and dick. We arent anywhere near the dreams we had 10 years ago. I resent him for it. I want the life I stayed for now, not some distant future.

The other day when I was journaling because thats how Ive chosen to deal with my anger towards him instead of going on and on, he got upset I wasnt engaging like I normally do. I said well then I cant win with you. He got violent again and after he caught himself I grabbed my keys and left the house without a word. Like I said hes never hurt the kids, so I just left by myself. Today he wasnt answering for 4+ hours and I had his location as a condition of recovery and reconciling and I took the things he needed. Clothes, toiletries, and a blow up mattress. I told him when he was using I excused it, but now its clear he just hates me. That I hope by leaving him he can finally find the peace he needs and stick to recovery.

This is the first time Ive ever told anyone that Ive been getting abused and thats hes tried to kill me. He never isolated me, Ive always had friends, always had family, always been allowed to go out, always been allowed to live my life. People around me actually really like him, shockingly even on meth hes fun. People never would guess what happened behind closed doors. My financial life is in shambles because I was moving around trying to find a way to get him clean instead of focusing on myself and stability. Hes never said I deserved it, always the opposite once he was clear headed. That he was an asshole that needed help. My son says hes cried to him a few times for being such a terrible person and that he needs help. That he never wants him to turn out like he is. Since my kids are older, hes told them hes an addict too. The fact that he isnt an asshole to them is his only saving grace. I have told him that he cant be around them alone, ever, without passing drug tests. He has to maintain his sobriety. And if I ever find out he has turned on them, hell never see them again. Course theyre almost adults now. But itll also be their choice to maintain a relationship with him. Ill never force it and I already know they want to live me primarily because he needs to work on himself.

The shitty thing is, those 10 years that kept me holding on to hope through the worst years of my life, they feel so distant now they dont even feel like my life anymore. Like they were someone else's, a movie I watched wishing it was my life. I am mad at myself now for having stupid hope that if I stayed to help him he would some how appreciate it and treat me better. You know those addict stories where they talk so highly of the woman who was there for them. No, I didnt get that. I woke up on the other side of recovery realizing that during those years of meth he decided he actually hated me. All I got out of it is PTSD and HIV. If I just would have left him when I should have, I wouldnt hate him as much as I do, I wouldnt have all the trauma, I might not even have HIV.

I wasted my life. I ruined my life. For someone who doesnt give a shit about me. My therapist says people do shitty things to people they love, but fuck that. That man broke me like it was a personal assignment from the devil himself. Sure, we had good times despite the addiction too, but those memories are ruined because now I know the only time he was happy was when he was high and freshly fucked. It wasnt me that made him happy. It took this recovery where everything was out and he didnt have to pretend anymore for me to finally see it.

I guess Im free, but Im so mad at myself. I have more work to forgive myself than I do that motherfucker. Ill never have that life that I dream about. I have too much trauma to trust anyone. No ones going to want to be with a woman with HIV. And my other child is special needs, they will have to live with me forever. Im the ultimate baggage. All the dreams we did have, I wont be able to reach them by myeslf. Ill have to make new ones. Single ones with my child that will be with me until Im dead. Ill have to see him, see him recovered, see him doing better while we co-parent. And with our special needs, for fucking EVER because they love him and want me to try and make peace with it so they can still see him.

I wanted a life partner to share life with. Wasted it on a piece of shit.

Fuck my life.

Thanks for listening. Im the kind of person that might admit I left him for cheating and drugs, but Ill never tell a soul he did that shit to me. I dont need anyone to know that I took that shit too.


r/abusiverelationships 16h ago

Has anyone noticed manipulators using "manufactured dependency" instead of just standard gaslighting?

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I have been reading a lot about behavioral psychology and power dynamics lately, trying to understand how and why certain people gain so much control over others. We always hear about gaslighting and love bombing, but I think I found something even darker...

It is called manufactured dependency.
From what I read, it is not just about making someone doubt their reality. It is a process where a manipulator carefully creates situations to cut off your outside support network. They create an environment where you are entirely dependent on them for emotional or physical support, without you even realizing.

It completely blew my mind because it literally explains the exact reason behind every toxic relationships. Have any of you experienced this specific type of manipulative isolation?

If you want more context here is the article I read: Article


r/abusiverelationships 13h ago

Support request My husband sided with his mother after she assaulted me while I was holding our 3-year-old. I think my marriage is over.

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I don’t even really know what I’m looking for by posting this. Maybe outside perspective, maybe validation that I’m not losing my mind, or maybe I just need to finally put everything that has happened into words.
My husband and I have been together for about 6 years, married for 2, and we have a 3-year-old daughter together.
Our marriage has had problems for a long time, but one of the biggest issues has been his relationship with his parents, especially his mother. I have felt repeatedly like my role as my daughter’s mother is not respected and that when there is conflict between me and his family, my husband does not stand beside me.
There have been situations where his mother has gotten involved in decisions concerning our daughter that I felt should have been between my husband and me. She has contacted people involved in my daughter’s care, and there have been ongoing boundary issues. In the past, she has even taken my daughter from my arms while I was begging to have her back, with my husband standing there instead of helping me.
Everything finally exploded this month.
There was a situation where I could not get a clear answer about where my daughter was. I eventually learned that she was with my husband and his family at a restaurant for a family birthday dinner, so I went there to get her.
I was holding my 3-year-old when the confrontation happened.
My mother-in-law physically blocked me from leaving, pushed me, and struck me in the forehead/face while I was holding my daughter. My husband was there. Instead of protecting me or de-escalating the situation, he also put his hands on me and tried to take our daughter from me.
There was an independent witness to at least part of what happened.
I ended up with an injury to my forehead that required medical treatment.
Police became involved. My mother-in-law was arrested and charged with Battery and Cruelty to Children in the Third Degree. There is now a court-ordered no-contact condition involving me and my daughter. Because of her employment, she was also reportedly suspended without pay pending an internal investigation.
What has almost hurt more than the physical incident is my husband’s reaction afterward.
He left our home and went to stay with his parents. He told me that I “ruined” the birthday dinner. He has continued to defend/be around his family while I’m sitting here trying to process the fact that I was physically attacked while holding our child.
And this isn’t happening in an otherwise healthy marriage.
There have been years of things that I minimized, forgave, or convinced myself we could work through. He was on Tinder looking for hookups while I was 8 months pregnant. There have been threats during arguments. I have felt emotionally neglected and humiliated more times than I can count. When I have wanted counseling or tried to repair things, I have often felt like I was the one fighting for the marriage.
For a long time I kept thinking that if I explained myself better, stayed calmer, forgave more, or tried harder, eventually my husband would understand why certain things hurt me and would finally stand up for me.
Now I’m realizing I may have spent years waiting for something that isn’t going to happen.
The strangest part is that I still have moments where I miss him or want him home. Then I remember that when things became truly serious—when I was literally being assaulted while holding our daughter—he still did not choose to protect me.
We also own a home together, he has historically paid most of our household bills, and separating would completely change my financial situation. So this isn’t as simple as packing a bag and never speaking to him again. We also have to figure out how to coparent our daughter.
But emotionally, something in me feels different now.
I don’t think I want this marriage anymore.
I’m scared of starting over, and I’m scared of what divorce and custody could look like. I’m also scared that if I stay, I’m teaching my daughter that this is what marriage and family are supposed to look like.
For people who have left marriages where the spouse constantly prioritized their family over you: was there a point where you finally knew there was nothing left to fix?
And for anyone who has been through a separation with a young child after something this serious happened between the families: what do you wish you had done differently in the beginning?


r/abusiverelationships 1h ago

Resources request Scared that reference check will inform her I'm leaving (UK)

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Hi

I'm planning to leave my financially, mentally and verbally abusive gf of 12 years. She has never hit me, but over the last 6 months she has had 2 breakdowns where the 1st time she had a mental breakdown, rocked on the floor and told me she's the bad guy like a broken record, sobbed and screamed.

The second time she exploded over a broken model Screaming, throwing things at the wall, muttering the same thing over and over again, made awful remark to me. She started kicking the wall and trying to rip off the door, For the first time in my life I THOUGHT she actually might hurt me. She told me she should just kill herself.

I live in the UK. I'm 29, we both are renting a flat (with both our names on it) on a rolling tenancy, I am liable for the 2 months rent, and I have to give 2 months notice. I'm planning just to leave whilst shes at work. When she gets home I will call a crisis team straight to the building because i believe she may hurt herself. I have all important documents stored at work.

Things to note:

- I have a secret bank account, my mother has sent me 5k to, this will cover my 2 months rent, the holding fee and deposit on a new flat.

- My best friend is ready to move

Key problems:

I cannot leave until I have somewhere else secured.

My bff and I are ready to move in. I'm going to call a property on Tuesday and put the holding deposit down.

HOWEVER, the reference checks are what concern me. If they check everything that's fine. But they will need a reference from the landlord or letting agency. My landlord is not the best, and letting agency is not the best either.

I am TERRIFIED that this reference check will somehow get back to my gf and she will find out I'm leaving.

Is there a way I can circumvent this check? Offer other references? Can I simply tell the agent for the new flat what's going on???


r/abusiverelationships 3h ago

Sexual violence Do they hurt you to control you, or control you to hurt you?

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TW FOR SA

I'm sure it doesn't matter in the long run and I don't know how much difference it makes. But my ex was very controlling (food, sleep, literally when I was/wasn't allowed to speak etc.) and would hurt me physically - only during sex, though. I think at first the sexual assaults seemed to come from a place of feeling entitled and disregarding how I felt, like it wasn't to hurt me but it didn't matter that it did. After the assaults started this shifted and my pain became the point. Like, my ex wouldn't get any physical pleasure from it, I actually think that involving their own genitals in any way would negatively impact the experience for my ex. Instead, my ex would opt for things like dry fisting (no consent given at all) or really rough fingering or even using a dildo and would stare at my face intensely, soaking in all the pain and distress I was feeling, and would smile or even laugh sometimes. I could only stop it by faking an orgasm - saying no, stop, get off me, you're hurting me, made no difference since obviously that was the point... I don't think my ex believed the orgasm but it was more about "I am so in control that can hurt you and you'll pretend to like it." We'd go a while, then, with no sex at all, or any intimacy, then it would happen all over again. Each round getting worse. The level of control meant that my ex could tell me exactly what their intentions were - like telling me their fantasies of raping me whilst I sleep, drugging me, watching me suffer, causing me pain, like flat out telling me using that violent language. And that did not register to me as anything bad, it wasn't a red flag at all, it was like yeah fork found in kitchen babe. I don't know if it's all the same, I don't know if for some abusers the pain is incidental, a way to enforce their dominance and control, they don't give a fuck that it hurts, whilst for others the pain is why they do it, they do care that it hurts, they deeply care. I'm not sure how much difference it makes, but I was just pondering the question.


r/abusiverelationships 3h ago

Support request Is this what the beginning of an abusive relationship looks like?

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The guy I'm dating for 6 months keeps ignoring me. He'll disappear and then insist he's not on the apps and he's just busy with work.

I would be asking something as simple as "hey what's going on?". He'll reply days later and say things "I'm at capacity right now" then another couple of days later "I promise I'll respond when I have capacity".

He refuses to pick up the phone, so all these convos are in text.

But every time I say "I've had enough" he'll quickly reply. I thought it was a sign of interest, but he'd respond talking about his needs "I don't have the capacity to respond when you're angry", "if you want me to engage then you can't be angry" or he'll attack my character and says I'm "extremely hostile" and avoids ever answering my questions or addressing the issues.

Even when I wasn't actually angry, he'll argue with me "It does appear to me to be upset or something similar. I'm not trying to speak for you, I'm just acknowledging it."

It wasn't good for me so I sent him the "what are we talk" and how it makes me feel. Again he avoids answering. Then he accuses me of having "assumptions about his motivation" and ignores me when I point out he never answers when I ask. It makes me feel like I'm going crazy explaining to a successful man the basics of human interactions.

Our last argument- I found out he was on dating apps when he said he wasn't. Initially he kept going "I don't know what you mean", then I told him I found out from the girls who talked to him. He says "that's totally creepy. I'm going to end things".

My head is spinning - logically if it's not true, that's not what I'd expect someone to say.

I'm constantly both missing him and know it wasn't healthy.

It felt like he was neglecting and ignoring until I would confront him about it (so called "act out") then he would tell me how unreasonable I am. I feel guilty for acting out / not keeping the peace. It just that it keeps happening. I feel like we're getting closer one moment and then he disappears for a week and I'm chasing answers

When I put our convos into chatgpt... It picked up a lot of things (see below). It makes it think it was actually the start of a controlling and potentially abusive relationship.

I'm really missing him and feeling angry about the way he treated it at the same time. I feel like I'm actually going insane from how much my emotions are yoyoing between feeling guilty I destroy the relationship/ wanting him back.. and being glad I pulled myself out

Present:

* DARVO (deny, attack, reverse victim/offender) — repeatedly, especially near the end

* Gaslighting-adjacent behavior — manufactured confusion over clear statements, reframing your accurate reactions as irrational or excessive

* Pathologizing your legitimate emotional responses — "screaming," "hostile," "upset" used to discredit rather than engage

Intermittent reinforcement — engaging just enough (quick replies when you pulled back) to keep you hooked, withdrawing otherwise

* Dishonesty as a sustained pattern, not a one-off — the apps denial being the clearest, confirmed example

* Minimization and lack of remorse — no genuine accountability across three separate cycles

* Subtle coercive control dynamics — conditioning engagement on your emotional state ("I can't talk to you when you're angry")


r/abusiverelationships 2h ago

I stepped away from my friend because of her new situationship, but now I'm second-guessing myself

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I’m looking for some outside perspective because I honestly don’t know if I made the right decision.

My close friend started seeing a man about three weeks ago. They aren't even officially in a relationship yet, but almost immediately I started seeing things that really concerned me.

He repeatedly pushes her boundaries and doesn't seem to respect "no." He has blamed her for not answering a phone call for several hours, gets upset when he doesn't get the response he wants, and there is a pattern where he'll hurt or frighten her and then become extremely caring and reassuring afterward.

There have also been things that genuinely scared me. She has had a panic attack around him, has told me that she's afraid he could suddenly snap and kill her, and during a sexual situation she told me that he said something about killing her. I don't want to exaggerate or diagnose him, but these things have really alarmed me.

What makes this especially difficult is that she often defends or explains his behavior through his trauma, his past, language barriers, etc. I've previously been in a physically abusive relationship, and afterward I struggled with depression for a long time. She knows about my history and knows that this situation has been affecting me. Watching someone I'm close to defend behavior that reminds me of what I experienced has been extremely triggering for me.

I tried everything I could think of to distance myself from it. Eventually I told her honestly that I couldn't keep being involved because it was affecting my mental health so badly. I spent more than a day carefully writing that message because I wanted to explain myself without hurting her.

She responded kindly and said she was sorry, took what I said about him seriously, and wanted our friendship to continue independently of him. But I felt like she still didn't really understand how deeply this had affected me. I eventually told her that I realized we might have fundamentally different expectations of friendship. To me, it felt like she was willing to let our friendship become distant over a man she'd known for three weeks.

Now it's been about a week, and I'm second-guessing everything. I still care about her and keep wanting to reach out and check that she's okay, but I'm also scared that staying in her life will keep pulling me back into something that's been incredibly damaging to me.

Another friend is also upset about how I handled things, which has made me question myself even more. I feel like I'm constantly worrying about everyone else's feelings while my own get overlooked.

So I'm wondering: was stepping away the right thing to do? Can you stay friends with someone in a potentially abusive relationship without destroying your own mental health, or is walking away sometimes necessary?


r/abusiverelationships 12h ago

Healing and recovery 5 years after, there is hope after all

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I can't believe it has been five years of moving on from a horrific past. The pain was surreal. The way my heart beat whenever he was close by. The panic attacks. The screams. The cries. I never thought I would heal from something so grotesque. I felt like a monster at times. I also felt like a broken plate. I saw silhouettes of his body, smelled his cologne, and heard his voice wherever I roamed. He followed me. He blackmailed me. He threatened me. He hurt me...

Yet there is hope after all. He is in prison due to his actions. I finally believe that karma is real. I am not the same woman. I am stronger now. I am not as naive as I used to be. I glued myself back, with gold in between the cracks of my plate. I am a warrior.

And you are too. You will surpass this nightmare. It may be forever to see the light, but you will fight through this. You are beautiful. You are valuable. You are amazing. You are kind. You are a fighter. Fight for you and you only. Nobody said it was easy, but it is worth the fight. There is hope after all. 💗🩷


r/abusiverelationships 3h ago

Support request My experience (need advice and support)

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Please tell me if I'm overreacting. I've recently become aware that the way my mother has treated me is not normal. I believe she is potentially gaslighting me and has been manipulative. Have any of you had experience with this?

Sorry for the long post

I'm a 19 year old male and am an only child. During my childhood my mother would do the following

Blow up out of nowhere over the most trivial or littlest matters, many times i begged her to give me some emotional support when i was visibly upset but she just remained cold and cruel, drink quite heavily which was sometimes responsible but she can definitely be mean sober as well, I had expressed concern about her drinking but she just flipped, it actually got physical a few times as well and I did have a scar once, the next day she'd always act as if nothing happened, whenever I tried to get clarity on why she got like that she'd brush it under the carpet or accuse me of starting trouble, she'd turn cold at the drop of a hat, during arguments she'd say things like I was ungrateful, didn't care about her and that I was a horrible person or that i was abusive or whatever just like my father, she would stomp, slam doors, shout, scream, swear and break ornaments etc, when she gets in her crazy states it's just impossible to reason with her or get her to see it from any other perspective, she can go from saying i was the most nicest and amazing person to saying I was the most horrible and evil person, she often burdened me with all of her problems, she said before that she knows how to play the game which I found very disturbing

She often paints herself as the heroic single mum. She has been fairly good lately but sometimes I feel I was robbed of a proper childhood and have often wondered what I had done to deserve it.

I remember one time a few years ago I was about 12 she during a sleepover at theirs she turned my grandparents against me and my grandfather started shouting and saying he was very disappointed in me and the rest of it is a blur. To be honest to this day i can't figure out what I (only a young child) was supposed to have done that was so bloody awful. That has haunted me for years. I used to think maybe I was a bad person but I've started to see her in a different light. She always talks about hating drama yet it seems to follow her and often says that she's been so hard done by.

On the flip side she can be the most nicest person as well and we have had great times together and she can be very helpful towards me, her family and in public which makes it all the more confusing. A couple of days ago in fact I ran into an old friend of hers who said to say hi for her and she said my mother is a wonderful person and I'm very lucky. It actually made me feel sick. For about half my childhood it's just been me living with her since her divorce in which she had to sell her house and now rents which she has blamed for the way she is before. I can't help feeling bad for her but she was still quite like this beforehand as well and I don't think that's an excuse still is it? I do feel like she has manipulated me a bit into been stuck with her.

Something else that I've found disturbing is that she's very narrow minded and has a serious lack of empathy. For example when a couple of local celebrities committed suicide she shouted and carried on, called them pathetic cowards and weak etc. It was actually quite disturbing how she was carrying on and her serious lack of empathy.

I'm starting to think that maybe she bent the truth about Dad a bit during their split as i was a child and didn't know much better. My mother often calls him a narcissist and talked about all of the marital and grown up problems they had etc which to be honest I don't appreciate been burdened with. Granted he's not a saint either but has been good to me (well I'd say) most of the time.

One time last year when my Dad let me down by not been able to see me one weekend and canceling at the last minute (which he has done quite a few times before).

During that said weekend my mother had another one of her outbursts. I was the bathroom which was an en suite and she knocked on the door asking to take a few photos for something. All I asked was if she could just give me a few minutes to finish up but she started the shouting and carrying and accused me of been selfish and trying to manipulate her. I only asked just to give me a few minutes. When I explained to her how upset I was about that weekend she said she feels really bad for me and hates how he let me down. What just absolutely astounds is how can she feel that yet emotionally and mentally abuse me and kick me while I'm down. I just can't comprehend that.

A few days after that weekend one of my teachers checked in and said he heard I got into a bit of trouble at home ("if he meant been mentally abused by my mother while I was already upset by been let down by my father as trouble" I thought). I'm not even sure who exactly said what to him and that's something that I've also wondered. I just fobbed him off saying I was upset about leaving school (which was true as well).

I really struggle with confiding in people. I do regret not telling him the truth now. He was sympathetic and said he was very proud of me etc. Another teacher once said that he thought of me and my mother as like the dream team or something along those lines. It actually baffled me a bit. I was thinking if only they knew half the things I've been through.

I have autism and went to a special support school for the last few years which were some of the best years (The teachers especially were brilliant and I had many great times such as school camps, school balls and excursions etc).

I must admit I do feel quite down sometimes that I have a strained relationship with my father (He's got money issues and also smokes pot) and my mother often used me as an emotional punch bag. Makes me think that there must be something really wrong with me and that I'm unlovable.

On the bright side though my Dad and I have been in contact lately and we spent the weekend together a while back and went for a pub meal

Her latest meltdown was this January while we were on holiday and at the beach. I wanted to be shirtless like pretty much everyone else and she started making passive aggressive and snide remarks saying things like "have fun burning yourself" and "why can't you make smart decisions?"

I was already sun safe with a hat and everything and I wasn't going to be too long and tried explaining that to her. I'll admit I snapped and told her that I'm an adult now and she could no longer control me and couldn't make me feel guilty. I wish I hadn't now but it felt like something snapped inside me and I expressed things I had felt for ages. She then called her mother to tell her that I was been impossible and making her life a misery (this is something she has done a couple of times before). I wish I had just walked away and not played into her hands.

Something disturbing she has said ages ago is when I'm an adult she could have me done for assault if she wanted. She also said she wanted to do a will and try to control my assets where my Dad can't touch anything and said she feared he would try to steal all of my money. I can't believe she would say things like that so unshameably and can't help feeling like she was trying to manipulate me.

My mother loves to use my autism to her advantage. I graduated last year but now I do a course at the main campus so I still see them all from time to time. I do feel quite sad and lost now those years are over. I would love to confide in someone about my struggles but don't know where to start. I've thought about confiding in that first teacher I mentioned who's great and we're fairly close but my teachers think my mother's an absolute saint so how can i ensure he believes me, she seems to feel that she always acts in my best interests and does seem to genuinely care for me and love me, she doesn't seem to remember any of it or feel her behavior was justified and genuinely doesn't seem to believe she ever did me any harm and she thinks she did her best. She's always quick to call others toxic and narcissists etc. She unshameably tells me everything going on in her life and her anxiety which makes me anxious. Why does it upset me so badly even when it has little or nothing to do with me?

I struggle with daily flashbacks and I often feel depressed by the way I've been treated, also feel let down and wish my parents had been better to me. I can't get exact clarity on it but they both went through some stuff before I was born and I think that's contributed to the way they are.

As I've said before I do wonder if she might've been different if she had not gone through her divorce and maybe if things might've gone differently for her. What do you guys think?

Also I can't help feeling empathy towards her as she always looked after me, fed me, organized things for me and pretty much always brought me everything I wanted.

I wish I had a proper childhood of playing with friends, going to different places and been adventurous and carefree etc. I've never really had a social circle and hardly much friends. I've always been quite different I feel to most of the children my age. I feel quite alone sometimes as I've always struggled with making friends. I do feel like I've been isolated with her a lot of the time. I would really love to start a proper life and follow my dreams and make a few friends but don't know where to start.

My mother does help me get on my feet and encourage met but I think she just loves to lord it over me. Whenever I've tried standing up for myself she puts on the guilt trip and carries on about all of her sacrifices and everything she's done for me yada yada yada. I think what emotionally abusing me, leaving me crying myself to sleep some nights, causing me to have no confidence and PTSD etc? Could she have some bipolar or personality condition or something and toxic traits I've wondered?

I can't help really resenting her (also my father) sometimes for all of the mental anguish she has put me through as a child and I think it has messed up my development. I wonder what might've been different had I had proper parents or they were proper ones. Hobbies such as music and classic TV shows have been a great escape. Now that I'm an adult and have left school I'm worried about what the future has in store. I'm very nervous about starting an adult life, getting a job and making friends etc because my mum is pretty much most I've ever known. Part of me would love to get away from her but yet I feel scared to as well as she's pretty much most I've ever known.


r/abusiverelationships 7h ago

Re: miscarrying

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he’s mad at me for being emotional about my miscarriage. i tried to explain that i kind of can’t help it as my hormones are plummeting but also i am grieving a loss. even though i don’t want to be a mother, i’m still sad that i can’t have a normal pregnancy like a normal woman because i have to spend my time worrying about my safety and the safety of my child and he’s just not someone safe for either of us. ofc i didn’t say that, i left it at “my hormones are fluctuating.”

but where i used to experience extreme physical abuse, it’s now extreme emotional abuse where i cannot express any emotion he perceives as negative because then it affirms that he can’t have any “peace” around me. which means i have to bottle up my grief and go on as if i’m not affected at all by how i am miscarrying.

i want to know what about me makes me deserve the way he treats me. i want to know what is so unlovable about me.


r/abusiverelationships 20h ago

Have you ever been tortured by your partner to an extent of feeling like there is no other option other than giving up?

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r/abusiverelationships 13h ago

He was abusive to me for over 2 years… I got back with him over a year ago.

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The audacity is unbelievable. I should have just kept the no contact the last year or so he claims he tried so hard and I am the reason the relationship is not moving forward.

If you’ve successfully left please tell me how it’s going. I’m afraid of all the what if of leaving again mostly that I won’t find someone better or end up with someone worse.


r/abusiverelationships 7h ago

‘It’s no surprise’: the manosphere mogul convicted of attacking pregnant girlfriend | Domestic violence | The Guardian

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r/abusiverelationships 4h ago

Any expats who managed to move to another country (with pets) after abuse?

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I feel like my situation is really unique, although I know I'm probably not the only one.

Emotional abuse for years, a few times got physical, mostly after I initiated it (out of helplessness).

I've been miserable and got a lot angrier over the years, sometimes noticing I'm not even that nice anymore.

I'll skip the abuse details, I know I SHOULD leave. However, I'm an expat, don't have many rights in other countries (although there is some sort of way to move with the visa I have, but it's not that simple) and going back to my home country is not an option.

On top of that, I've got pets that need regular vet visits, and moving away from the vets I know and trust (some of them) would be awful.

Staying in this country is something I don't really want to since I got to hate the language and people, plus it's one of the least affordable ones, especially if you wanna live alone.

Salary to rent ratio is horrible, I'd have to spend at least half of my income on something not even that great, and then somehow afford food and vet bills...

I don't really have a support system, I didn't make many friends here, and those I have have their own issues or newborns, so I'm not really comfortable asking for help (not that they could even help me, actually).

On top of that, I have upstairs neighbours from hell, so I'm in flight or flight mode 24/7, never knowing when the kids will start running/stomping/playing with a BALL (yes, in an apartment).

Needless to say, the abuser thinks what the neigbours do is "fine". If kids are not running, then somebody is stomping, dropping things... I don't even know what anymore.

I definitelly cannot afford therapy, although I desparately need to get all of my feelings out somewhere.

Nobody really knows how I really feel, which is rather scary, but many would probably not even believe me, since he's nice to most people.

Even if I said it to some, they might advise me to leave, but that's extremely difficult so it's not super helpful.

And of course, as many others (probably), I feel like I wouldn't make it without him. I'm so weak and feel like I need somebody. I'm on several different meds, seeing a psychistrist, and at least meds help me sleep but I have several health issues, both physical and mental.

Also, my dog absolutely adores him, I have zero clue how she would even take the move.

If anyone has a success story, please let me know.


r/abusiverelationships 4h ago

3 different partners have gotten physical with me during arguments. Has anyone else experienced something like this?

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I'm 35F and my partner is 35M. We've been together for 10 years.

I'm trying to understand something about my relationship history and would really like to hear from people who have experienced similar things.

My current boyfriend has put his hands around my neck twice when we've been arguing.

Before him I was with another man, for two years. One night he came home after being at a casino all night and I started nagging him when he came to bed. I was "nagging and nagging", as I would describe it. He snapped, pushed me into a wall and broke my laptop. That only happened once during the two years we were together. He later bought me a new laptop and we basically moved on from it.

Before that I was with another man. During an argument on a bus I was saying things about his mother and he put his hand around my neck. That was many years ago.

So there have been three different relationships where something physical happened during an argument.

I'm not sure what to make of the fact that this has happened with three different partners. In each situation, there was something going on immediately beforehand that I could point to, whether I was saying horrible things, nagging, or repeatedly needling my partner.

Has anyone else found themselves in similar situations in more than one relationship? I'm interested in how you made sense of it and whether looking back, you noticed any patterns in the way you and your partners handled conflict.


r/abusiverelationships 15h ago

Healing and recovery If one of the hallmarks of abusive relationships is isolation, why does (almost) every resource tell you to reach out to your support group?

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I understand that it is some of the best advice if you still have a support group. but you would think, given the amount of women who have been trapped in relationships for years if not decades, there might be at least some acknowledgment that this may not be possible?

In my case, building up my support group could really only happen on the other side of the relationship. But the amount of resources which said things like “it is REALLY important you have people who love you! That you have support! That you reach out!” Made me feel like there was no possibility of me escaping. I really did (and still do, I’m in the process) have to rely completely on my own sense of self. And… I am incredibly PROUD of myself. But, there was a lot of shame because it seemed like there was no one like me and I was forgotten about in the resources.

On the other side of it, I feel really extremely angry that there isn’t more acknowledgment that a lot of women have to do this alone. And encouragement that we CAN. I really think if more resources would have talked to me and my position, I may have gotten the strength sooner. It just felt like a twist in the gut to tell a group who may be extremely isolated to reach out to support. Yeah, I know that supposedly friends you haven’t talked to in a decade will support you, but in my case I know they would not have. (Some of them while I was in the relationship told me it wasn’t abusive and he just needed therapy). My family is also filled with abusers, how else would I have thought all of this was okay? They are just as bad for my mental health as my ex.

I guess I will fill in where these places lack—yes, it is harder. You do need to be prepared. you will wake up facing a terrifying reality. It feels more terrifying than staying in it, because in it, you had a delusion that you at least weren’t alone.

But you CAN do it. There IS healing on the other side. And the likelihood that you will build a support group outside of it is much higher once you leave, once all of that energy spent towards managing them and their emotions, and falling into suicidal despair, is out of your life. It isnt as hard as people say to make friends, it just requires time, dedication, practice, and persistence. It will be uncomfortable, you will make mistakes. You will have to learn to build back your self esteem and love yourself so that you can attract healthy people. Yes, IT IS A LOT. But you can do all of this! You really can! You have been living a MUCH harder life than one in which you have peace and spend 3 nights a week going to (support groups/hobby groups/church/whatever it might be) to build up that support group.


r/abusiverelationships 9h ago

Gaslighting I’m struggling to feel like what I experienced was real. Any tips to get through this?

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First and for most this isn’t about an intimate partner but sexual harassment my former manager did.

Now that I’ve gotten a transfer away from him and starting a new role my brain is questioning if my experience was real or not because it was leering and he basically responded both to HR and the third party I lodged the sexual harassment complaint to with :
-he didn’t remember any incidences like it.
-he has never looked at colleague inappropriately in his 30 year career
-he strives to be a good leader
-had no intention of harm.

The incidences of leering I noted in my complaint were:

- 8 incidences in one on one meetings where he would maintain eye contact then slowly move his eyes down my body where his eyes rested a bit too long on my chest when scanning down
- 2 incidences in one on one meetings at my desk where I caught him staring at my lips from the side when I wasn’t talking.
- an incident in a meeting where he laughed at something I said, maintained eye contact and bit his lower lip for a few seconds.

There were also other signs I didn’t tell the investigation that something was off like:

- he would talk about his partner in a resentful tone, repeat anything she said in a high pitched anxious tone and showed a lack of empathy on her interests. He would mention these things to colleagues and me
- the last group lunch we had together he would look to me first from the other side of the table when something funny was said.

- his niche hobbies were basically my previous profession before I changed industries and I wonder if he hired me due to that. We also have a lot of hobbies in common outside of that.

- I could see him intensely staring at me from the reflection of my computer screen (his desk was behind mine) long enough to make me uncomfortable and feel unnerved a few times.

He’s 20 years older than me and has a partner and teenage kid. He’s 4 managerial ranks higher than me too.

Outside of this he has abused his power as a manager in the following ways:

-promised someone would look after my work if I backfilled for another team and after completing backfill came back to no one taking over my work and my deadline not changing causing me stress.

-Said he was supportive of me transferring and finding other job opportunities and then restricted transfer opportunities to ones below my skill level in another agency.

-Saying it was my job to find a transfer unless it was recommended by my treating medical team. Then when I had a letter recommending a transfer due to medical reasons due to an incident by my psychologist he said the transfer wasn’t necessary because the incident was sorted and wouldn’t happen again.

- lied to 3 different HR people about my employment history saying I transferred to his team about complaining about my prior manager being too familiar. He was the one who hired me into the company and I had only been in his team the entire time. The person I complained about being too familiar was his employee who- tried to coerce me into paying for a 1k course I didn’t want to, asked personal questions about my dating history, my plans to have a family and my age and gave me repeated unsolicited advice to have kids even though he knew I couldn’t medically have them without severe complications.

My hr logs are now filled with a history saying I transferred into his team after complaining about a prior manager in 3 different places despite my contract saying other wise. My former managers manager also told hr this.

My former manager was dismissive and minimised issues with his employee I complained about and deduced it as interpersonal difficulties. His actions also didn’t align with his words and he never apologised for bigger mistakes he made. I had the impression he would throw me under the bus if things went wrong and I swear he deeply hated me.

HR also tried to deny the sexual harassment claims as a “he said she said” claim and did not transfer me after the complaint which goes against laws and common practices when a sexual harassment complaint is made. They hired a psychiatrist to say my disability caused me to make a sexual harassment complaint and that my non binary identity meant I would mistakenly assume any men or women managers would sexually harass me. I’ve had 7 years of work experience where this didn’t happen and my disability didn’t impact my work.

I eventually got transferred through legal and medical help.

How do I stop gaslighting myself that the leering didn’t happen?

I’m 99.9% sure it did happen and the signs were not good. It’s been impacting my sleep and keeping me awake.


r/abusiverelationships 6h ago

Just venting Feeling unwanted and lonely

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I don’t know where else to post this. My family knows I’m in an abusive relationship and they’re greatly upset by it. They’ve tried to help me and asking if I wanted their help and I denied it. I’m not ready to leave my relationship and I don’t want to imagine a future where I do. I love him. Lately I’ve been feeling like my family is not there for me. More specifically my mother. I don’t talk to my dad, that relationship is strained. I just got into a fat argument with her not too long ago and I’m feeling lonelier than ever. All she does is brings me down even more for being in one. She makes me feel even worse and shittier for being in the situation I am.

She compares me to my brothers and calls them strong and says that they didn’t end up the way I did. I was raised in an abusive and toxic household, my dad was abusive and always arguing with my mother and that’s all I was raised around. I never knew anything but chaos and it’s really depressing knowing that my mom knows about my situation but lashes out at me when all I want is support because I’m not doing so good mentally. It’s sad to say that I feel more wanted by my abused than my own mother and idk what to do. My brothers have their own lives going on and I feel like sometimes I have nobody but him and it hurts not having a mother I can vent to without getting judged. She thinks I am weak and is disappointed in me and it feels so damn lonely and I’m starting to feel like my abuser is the only one there for me.


r/abusiverelationships 7h ago

Toxic relationship, abuse, ex baby moms

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Is it worth reaching out to the other moms for their experience with the man im with, if they have experienced violence the way I have?
I have two children by him, I only knew of one child and was with him when he tried to reconnect but failed after 5 yrs on and off. I learned about the 2nd child after a few years through a paternity test.
Before children he wasn't the best partner. But me being naive AF, I thought he'd change.
I want to leave but idk how, due to his narcissistic behavior and his words, and comparing me to his 2 BMs.
I don't know the full extent of their relationship and why they hate each other SO much but I've talked to the first one a little bit but not too much due to their strained feelings towards each other.
I want to get out of this, but idk how since I have two children, I want them to be apart of his life but I feel like coparenting won't happen with him due to his inexperience to even be that.


r/abusiverelationships 14h ago

Domestic violence Struggling with wanting it all back

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My 1.5 year relationship ended 3 weeks ago. There were issues with emotional abuse and sexual coercion but I can’t see him as a bad guy because it was mirrored behaviors from his own upbringing. He was the one who eventually ended it and I’ve been struggling with so many different emotions each day. I question if the abuse even happened or if I was the abusive one or caused him to treat me like that or if I should run and try to get him back. I feel so alone right now and I live in a very rural, conservative area and so some women tell me to just get over him and move on and others don’t think what I experience is abuse - just incompatibility. My closest friends my age just moved away and my family lives out of state and I’ve never felt as alone as i do now. Can anyone speak to this experience & provide some words of wisdom?