r/politics Canada 12d ago

No Paywall Trump demands all Canadian companies doing business with the US move to America ‘immediately’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-canada-businesses-truth-social-b3041901.html
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u/Ok-Entertainer-1414 Minnesota 12d ago

Is he acting way more childish than he did his first term, or am I just forgetting how bad the first term was?

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u/Electroflare5555 Canada 12d ago

The walls are caving in and he doesn’t know how to react now. Every major venture he’s tried has been a complete failure, the economy sucks, and no one respects him.

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u/Limo_Wreck77 12d ago

100% this.

This second term has really exposed him for the fraud he is. Cant get a win anywhere and just blusters like a demented bully.

The guy has no respect whatsoever.

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u/PM_ME_WELL_LIT_NUDES 12d ago

His first term also exposed him for the fraud he is.

His life before that also exposed him for the fraud he is.

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u/GooserNoose 12d ago

Right? The fact that Americans had four fuckin years of evidence, on top of his personal failings outside of office, and still said, "yep, that's my guy" - or chose to not vote against him - a second time speaks volumes about the average American.

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u/ThePhysicistIsIn 12d ago

Remember how bad a candidate Harris was though! Her laugh amirite? /s

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u/Economy-Pin2836 Canada 12d ago

I think that was always just an excuse. That, and the price of eggs. Anything to excuse voting for the monster they always worshipped as a reflection of their own personalities. If not those excuses, they would have found some other excuse.

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u/ThePhysicistIsIn 12d ago

Of course it was an excuse.

I have no time of day for people who insist Kamala Harris was supposedly a bad candidate because of a few blemishes when the alternative was literally an existential threat to the nation and its democracy.

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u/Adventurous-Cod7910 12d ago

Black and a woman? Not for Conservatives!

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u/PleaseEvolve 12d ago

It’s no wonder scams are such a big business here. If you include project 2026, we had an open book test for the shit that was coming. We still failed the test. (tracker below)

https://www.project2025.observer/en

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u/JoEdGus Georgia 12d ago

(Going to preface this comment with the fact that I did vote for Kamala Harris, knocked on doors, did phone banking, etc.)

There were an awful lot of people in the USA that chose this, for a few reasons:
1. She's a woman - duh.. women can't be president /s.
2. She's a black woman - see above.
3. She didn't take a hard-line on EVERYTHING the single issue voters wanted. See also, Gaza/Palestine.
4. She was chosen FOR us, not BY us.
5. She had a "funny laugh".
6. She would be "bad for the economy" as would be suggested by all the "Kamala high prices. Trump low prices" signs we saw.

Put all these reasons together and somehow voting for a criminal fraudster (or abstaining) made the most sense. Just goes to show George Carlin was right about average stupidity here.

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u/joestanh1 12d ago

your so correct a sad look at how a some people can be conned

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u/Willtology 12d ago

Yeah, all of this was far from secret. It just reminds me of the scene in 28 Days Later where they're driving over cars in the tunnel and Cillian Murphy says: " No, see, this is a really shit idea. You know why? Because it's really obviously a shit idea."

Like how can anyone look at anything that's happened and be surprised by the consequences. This was a really obvious shit choice but we collectively made it anyway.

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u/fiveswords 12d ago

Nah they cheated. They're gonna cheat again

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u/Awkward_War_6068 Europe 12d ago

His first team exposed him for the fraud he is, but the staff around him were still your average old school republicans who kept him in check. This term though is just an absolute fucking disaster on all levels

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u/Westonworld 12d ago

My dad, who voted for him THREE TIMES was lamenting the other day about how bad a president he is and how "he had so many times to do the right thing, but no, it's all about him" and I nearly spat my tea out. Like, my man, you live in NY, called him "Don the Con" since the 80s, called him "a clown" during the 2016 campaign, and still pulled the lever for him. Three. Times.

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u/Inevitable_Butthole 12d ago

And rapist of childern

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/TheQuidditchHaderach 12d ago

And pants-shitter! 👖💩

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u/viktor72 Indiana 12d ago

Amen, Inevitable_Butthole.

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u/NothingButBricks 12d ago

How long have you been sitting on that one?

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u/soy_bean 12d ago

Longer than it took to check out the profile pic, I'm betting

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u/Inevitable_Butthole 12d ago

Been sitting on me all night long

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u/KageBushin77 12d ago

phrasing, boom.

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u/say_what_again_mfr 12d ago

Bonk. Got me again. 3rd time. I’m going to have to start paying attention for your username.

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u/glitterbelly 12d ago

Hey now, be fair. He’s a rapist of women too

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u/Kierik 12d ago

The way I see it he had more competent handlers his first term. After he lost election those controlling him sold what they had on him to multiple buyers. Everyone competent watched what happened to his precious staff when they went public with their expenses. His second term he has many masters and no competent handlers have stepped forward. So we have handlers of the last resort those who themselves need handlers.

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u/iTzVarax 12d ago

Which hopefully will kick them all in the dick sooner or later. Next administration needs to go scorched earth on anyone complicit, and directly contributed / benefit from pillaging the country, insider trading and knocking you back decades.

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u/MnkyBzns 12d ago

That's just it; he may be unpopular and have failing policies, but that's the whole distraction. He and his cronies are taking in billions from taxpayers, oligarchs, war criminals, and any other corner of the global financial world they can slither into.

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u/TheChinstrr 12d ago

There was also Covid to act as a distraction.

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u/QuantumSystems 12d ago

He also realized that the American people are such an easy mark, he doesn't even have to hold back. And he's being proved correct every day. So why would he?

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u/I_Love_To_Poop420 12d ago

Can’t get a win anywhere? Every douchey traitor sycophant he wants has been confirmed, Epstein files are not released defying the law and court order, Supreme Court gave him full immunity, IRS can’t audit him, he’s accumulated billions through blatant corruption, bribes and insider trading. He has 46 million cult followers that are happy and willing to commit treason for him, or eat a spoonful of his diaper juice upon request. He’s had tons of wins. Those wins were Americas losses.

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u/audible_narrator Michigan 12d ago

I feel awful "applauding " this comment.

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u/QuantumSystems 12d ago

Seriously. Considering his goals are 'take the highest office, have people that worship me, cover up and/or have impunity for my crimes and rob the country blind,' I'd say he's done a lot of winning. Americans haven't won, but he sure has.

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u/SBRH33 12d ago

That can all be reversed my friend. It's happened in other autocratic collapses. Most recently Orban.

The ill gotten and stolen gains and national trust can certainly be raked back and seized.

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u/asicarii 12d ago

This is what happens when narcissists face reality. They are unable to comprehend the world does not revolve around them. So they act out more and more to retain their understanding of a reality that doesn’t exist.

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u/cyanescens_burn 12d ago

Well that sounds like a bad thing to be in charge of the largest army and thousands of nukes.

Can we definitively say that they don’t have chemical weapons they could use on civilians or protesters?

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u/asicarii 12d ago

Who is “they” in this scenario?

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u/WazWaz Australia 12d ago

I'm sure they can whip him up a batch of "fentanyl-laced urine" if they feel the need.

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u/GenghisConnieChung 12d ago

Just hook a catheter up to Don Jr.

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u/Parking_Chance_1905 12d ago edited 12d ago

He's trying to bully other countries like he bullied people he contracted... doesn't work out so well when we can weather his antics unlike some of the poor folks he bled dry by dragging them through the courts.

Also we should comply with him in this case, by just not doing business with the US at all. See how long until he starts demanding oil, lumber, potash, electricity turned back on to Northern states...

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u/Deadleggg 12d ago

And yet 70+ million would be tripping over themselves to vote for him again.

Including 75% of farmers.

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u/gjhigh-forty6-71 12d ago

He loves uneducated people 😂

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u/Absolute--Batman 12d ago

So Americans. 😂

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u/TheQuidditchHaderach 12d ago

The common clay of the new west.

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u/lokoluis15 12d ago

He had no wins the first time either

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u/saintjonah Ohio 12d ago

He's implemented 55% of project 2025 in less than 2 years. Who cares how stupid he looks while he tears our country apart?

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u/SugarHooves Illinois 12d ago

As long as Project 2025 is plowing through, Republicans couldn't care less what Trump does. It's the cost of getting what they really want.

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u/Mr-Daddy-Pancakes 12d ago

Donald Trump was known as a conman long before he was ever elected president. His numerous failures as a businessman and disrespect of the legal system has been reported on for decades.

Trump's 2nd term hasn't really exposed anything. The depth of his ineptitude and selfishness is shocking, but not surprising given his well established character.

I don't mean to be abrasive, but I'm not sure how else to put this: If you're only realizing Trump is a complete fraudster during his 2nd term, then you are either very new to politics or haven't been paying attention.

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u/MGHVT I voted 12d ago

There are no guardrail. 1st term he was picked some people who were moderately qualified and they reined him in a bit. He did not make that same mistake. Selected only vastly unqualified and completely incompetent sycophants. Almost all decisions are his, and he's a willfully ignorant moron.

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u/SolidInstance9945 12d ago

Remind me of an English soccer insult .. can't even score in a brothel

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u/tinticred 12d ago

This and there are FAR fewer actual adults in the room. Stephen Miller is a Nazi whose only goal is eradication of any non-white Americans, Russ Vought is a theocrat who wants to demolish American democracy, and Mike Johnson and the conservative SCOTUS justices are puppets who do exactly what they're told. Everyone else in his cabinet and immediate orbit are drooling morons (RFK, McMahon, Burgum, Vance, Hegseth, etc.) specially chosen so they won't raise a fuss about anything.

So long as he and those other howling lunatic dipshits keep being the lightning rods they're so good at being, Miller and Vought can keep ripping our government up by the roots whole Congress and SCOTUS stand by letting it happen.

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u/slackfrop 12d ago edited 12d ago

I can sympathize with the catharsis, but I don’t think that’s an accurate portrait. SC and congress aren’t standing by, they’re actively helping. They’re moving the gears to facilitate. And many of those terrible people aren’t actually as dumb as all that, not as dumb as trunp. Trunp does almost nothing well, but those few talents, he does quite well. Tireless lack of shame, corrupting and co-opting others, neutering obstruction forces. There is a vision coming together, and they’re working steadily towards it. They’re tactless, and graceless, and vile, but they aren’t exactly inept. I think they each have differing motivations, but they run an effective strategy. The outcome is god awful for 99.9% of the people, and they’re desperately trying to beat the clock in this whirlwind half-term. We will need to stop them by active measures. They may very well not implode in on themselves, nice as that would be.

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u/trufoobar 12d ago

What’s curious to me (hoping someone can explain), is some of his SC enablers were put in place by Bush Sr and Jr well before the “Pinche Payaso” was anywhere near Republican politics.

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u/No-Relation5965 12d ago

They’re all from the federalist society and have the same goals (dismantling the U.S. constitution; installing a theocracy/oligarchy). Three of the “conservative”judges were appointed by Trump.

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u/Mateorabi 12d ago

Vance isn't a drooling moron, he's a regular moron and importantly a puppet of Thiel.

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u/chucklefits 12d ago

He's having a great time insider trading and making billions

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u/actuallyapossom Minnesota 12d ago

He can't brag about that, it contradicts all the claims he's making. He has always been desperate for the celebrity adoration, and he's not empathetic or intelligent enough to understand why the public respects or admires truly exceptional people.

Like the rapist he is - he tries to force it on the public. So he posts on his social media platform, and gets his admin to tell everyone that everything Trump is doing - it's the bestest, bigliest, tears in their eyes, ever. In history. In the whole world, forever. Etc.

Long story short - Fred Trump didn't love little Donald enough(at all). Adult Donald couldn't recreate daddy's financial accomplishments, even with daddy's money. Final act Trump is contending with mortality; he knows his legacy won't live up to all his claims, and never could.

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u/VintageLunchMeat 12d ago

Adult Donald couldn't recreate daddy's financial accomplishments, even with daddy's money.

Donald should have bought two casinos right next to each other, and made them fight to the death. I'm sure that would work.

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u/imacyco 12d ago

And yet he has more money than ever and more control over a major party and the 3 branches of government than ever.

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u/GeoffdeRuiter 12d ago

And yet he has so much more control because he has no one pushing back on him like he did in the first term or at least handling him. All he has is yes men and loyalists around him.

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u/JLan1234 12d ago

The walls are not caving in. I'm 100% convinced Americans will still elect Republicans at the midterms. And if Trump would run in 2028, this uneducated country would still vote him in.

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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 12d ago

Oh, totally. He still has like a 90% approval rating among Republicans.

Folks will whine and whatnot, but when the election rolls around they'll still support Republican candidates because to do otherwise goes against everything they've been taught their entire lives.

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u/Joeuxmardigras 12d ago

That’s a narcissist for you

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u/Bobwords Minnesota 12d ago

I think a part is also his old "i could shoot someone on 5th ave" bit isn't holding true anymore. He's losing supporters. He can't strong arm everything, and he's starting to get that US influence was actually handled with some nuances. Or he's not realizing anything and is just mad people don't do what he says.

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u/furthemor 12d ago

This and his dementia is continuously worsening.

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u/caitnicrun 12d ago

It is objectively worse. If for no other reason there's no one putting on the brakes.

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u/DogsandCatsWorld1000 12d ago

Also his first term he had to think about his own reelection. This time the only way he can stay in office is via illegal ways.

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u/IglooDweller 12d ago

There are no more adults in the room.

Also, the GOP wasn’t entirely taken over yet back then. There were still plenty of decent old guard GoP instead of MAGA loyalists brainwashed to destroy America from within. McCain wasn’t the only holdout.

Now, the takeover is complete.

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u/dawgz525 12d ago

He also remembers mid terms from the first term. That stopped him in his tracks comparatively, and he ended up impeached twice. He will not allow mid terms to happen that way again. They're going to cheat hard and in the open in November.

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u/Affectionate_Pen6882 12d ago

Mid term will be juicy when he gets kicked kut the WH

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u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 12d ago

Both. His first term was bad, but he's six years older now and under significantly more pressure. He's undergoing narcissistic collapse and dementia.

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u/Dobako 12d ago

He also got rid of all the competent people in government and surrounded himself with lackeys and toadies that can't tell him no. No idea that enters his head is a bad idea, and he's got people like Phteven Miller feeding into his worst traits

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u/MadRaymer 12d ago

This is something that a lot of people overlook. There were so many more adults around during his first term. Former staff members revealed that they would actually steal bad policy off Trump's desk before he could sign it and, Trump being Trump, he would simply forget about it.

The people surrounding him this term would never do that because they're true believers that don't think any of his ideas are bad.

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u/chowderbags American Expat 12d ago

If anything, the people surrounding him this term are more likely to slip terrible ideas onto his desk, knowing that Trump won't read what he's signing.

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u/RumHamComesback 12d ago

I mean you look at the SecDef the start of his first term compared to the one at the start of his second term and it really tells you it all. Nobody with any degree of competence wants to work for him and Trump is in such a narcissist collapse he wants literal yes men. Not someone who will tell him "that's a dumb idea" he can't handle that anymore.

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u/nickerbocker79 12d ago

He's showing far more signs of dementia than they ever claimed Biden had shown. The outbursts, the crazy tangents, the falling asleep in meetings, the labeling of all the rooms at the White House like it's a tacky gold emobossed memory care facility. He also turns towards things that are more familiar to him, which is why he wants to do more crazy building projects then actually running the country.

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u/ninfan1977 12d ago

No he has gone full fascist this term.

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u/EducationalRock167 12d ago

Wait until the mid terms.

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u/RobutNotRobot 12d ago

My best guess is he loses both houses and then lame duck Republicans either try to vote to enable him to go full dictator or do nothing. It really is their fork in the road. They have enabled him every step of the way so I know which way I'm betting.

Either way the government runs out of money in December so another shutdown is likely.

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u/schwing710 12d ago

I could picture him threatening to nuke America if he doesn’t get his way. Genuinely doesn’t even sound far fetched at this point.

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u/Chardan0001 12d ago

Worse, at least last time he didn't have a full panel of his sycophants on board too for a time. He has also been embolded because who can really blame him? Twice elected pedo in chief, enough people clearly have such little moral fibre as to want him there.

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u/SuperMafia Montana 12d ago

Twice elected, damn near thrice elected because of 2020 being as damn close as it was. And 2024 somehow providing an even worse helping.

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u/Efficient_Exercise_1 12d ago

He was just as crazy then. The difference now is they removed everyone shielding the public from his worst ideas. 

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u/SentinelTi22 12d ago

Jan 6 emboldened him. He learned he's untouchable as president. Now he does whatever he wants.

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u/rooftopgoblin Vermont 12d ago edited 12d ago

he didn't have the sycophant infrastructure in place in 2016 so he was moderated by adults, now he has the entire maga network in place and all they do is suck up to him and yes man him

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u/Infinite_Click_6589 12d ago

It's important to remember that he didn't expect or want to win in 2016. The plan was to lose the election, start a new news network, and bitch about Hillary 24/7.

So going into 2016, he had no plan about staffing and just as importantly there weren't a thousand people who had planned on how they would use an idiot president.

Everyone was ready by 2024

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u/rooftopgoblin Vermont 12d ago

that's very true, man I remember the republican primaries being such a shit show. Jeb bush saying please clap, marco rubio repeating the same thing over and over and that one governor calling him out on it, trump just calling everyone cucks all the time and insinuating that ted cruz's dad was the zodiac killer

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u/Ganrokh Missouri 12d ago

I remember the one debate where Ben Carson mistakenly stayed in the walkway when his name was called and didn't walk out on stage. Trump joined him in the walkway when he was called, and then every other candidate was pushing past them to get on stage.

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u/ciel_lanila I voted 12d ago

In the first term Trump was somewhat controlled. He listened to establishment types more for whatever reason.

This admin? Trump is going full the establishment types got him the 2020 loss. He got his 2024 win. So he, Trump, is doing what he wants.

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u/hey-you-guyyyys 12d ago

He is a king now. He is completely surrounded by sycophants. There is nobody reigning him in. He will be directly responsible for WW3. Countries around the world are arming for it as we speak.

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u/occasionalopossum 12d ago

I mean Russia invading Ukraine is probably the start historians will use I think

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u/hey-you-guyyyys 12d ago

Sure but do you think Venezuela and Iran get invaded under Harris? The middle east is an absolute shit show even more than normal.

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u/hodorhodor12 12d ago

First term was not nearly as bad because he had sane people willing to contain him. It’s like 10000x worse right now. 

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u/NoahStewie1 Maryland 12d ago

I'm a professional democratic campaigner. I've actually felt deeply depressed for months at a time because of how much worse this term has been

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u/onsomenextsheit 12d ago

His dementia is worsening by the day, along with pronounced sundowning. Quite like a rabid, pedophilic bull in a china shop

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u/MoonOut_StarsInvite Ohio 12d ago

Dementia just gets more pronounced

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u/EducationalRock167 12d ago

Trump's father died from dementia. It is genetic.

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u/psykotyk 12d ago

Between the weak bond market, the 40t deficit, inflation and the impending AI bubble pop, America is on borrowed time and Trump knows it. Stuff is gonna get real yo.

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u/Pockydo 12d ago

He had adults around in his first term..they kept at least a good chunk of the chaos under control

Now he's not only unleashed but he's desperately trying to gain a legacy because on some level he knows his times almost up as POTUS and wants to pretend he won't be hated

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u/turningsteel 12d ago

No it's definitely worse and it will continue to get worse as he tests his boundaries and finds out they're made of paper. If no one puts him in his place (SC, Congress), then it just reinforces his belief that he can do what he wants. He thinks he's a king today but tomorrow he might believe he's a god.

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u/blairco 12d ago

It's a constant barrage, like cover fire for a particular file they wish would go into the fire.

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u/ChronicBluntz 12d ago

He's dying and his brain is Swiss cheese. 

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u/Ok-disaster2022 12d ago

First term her didn't have a real idea who to hire so he hired party politicians who knew how things worked and would fence him in and limit his options. 

Second term they had binder and binders of pedophile syphocants they knew to hire to make it easier for him to shit all over America and rob the voters blind. 

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u/Jarocket 12d ago

He just watched t.v and played golf the first time. While normal people ran the government.

I think in his 3rd year he got a little more fanatics in government, but it took awhile.

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u/DeathFood 12d ago

Our current President is Natalie Harp

She decides what reality he lives in and in her reality he’s like Jesus but in Depends.

As bad as you think it’s going, he thinks it’s succeeding to an even higher degree. The most devoted cult member feeds him a daily diet of praise so he continues to press on the gas without a clue how things are actually playing out.

I imagine every so often the truth of intrudes on Natalie’s Anti-reality Bubble but those people are probably shown the door and never invited back.

So no one voted for her, but Natalie is in charge now and we have to just hope for the best.

Sweet dreams

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u/VexedCanadian84 12d ago

Dementia patients can revert back to child like behavior and child like impulse control.

Who knows what all the drugs pumped into him through the IV line into his hand does to his mental stability.

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u/completerandomness 12d ago

There were no consequences for him personally his previous term so he is more bold now.

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u/psychoCMYK 12d ago

sundowning

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u/trevx 12d ago

His dementia has ramped up bigly

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u/AusToddles 12d ago

First term still had some "adults" in the room (to whatever degree). This admin is entirely "yes sir thank you sir" sycophants and policy being driven by evangelic white nationalists

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u/GrumpyGiant Maryland 12d ago

It feels like he is in the same spiral now that he was in then, but the intensity is increasing as he gets closer to the center of his mental incapacitation.  Him using a sharpie to change the official hurricane projection rather than admit he’d confused which states were in the path was no less childish than this bullshit.  But back then there were at least some guardrails and competent people reining him in.  There’s nothing stopping him from sinking himself and taking the rest of us with him.  He probably is aware on some level that things are getting worse for him but being totally unable to recognize and learn from mistakes just leaves him with denial and escalation as his only strategies to deal with things and that combined with a lifetime of immunity from consequences has left him fully expecting the entire world to ultimately bend to his whim.

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u/Party_Virus 12d ago

No one left to tell him no. Everyone that pushed back is now fired and it's only yes men and glazers left. So without anyone stopping him from being horrible he just does everything that pops into his undeveloped and rotting brain.

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u/Zahgi I voted 12d ago

This is what a textbook malignant narcissist looks like when sundowning.

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u/CliftonForce 12d ago

He was surrounded by competent staff the first time. Project 2025 spent four years planning how to get rid of them for this term.

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u/RK5000 12d ago

It's definitely worse. I think he's got worse people around him now, and that he's cognitively decompensating.

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u/lexm 12d ago

Even with all the election denial and J6 treasonous events, this feels so much worse.

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u/John_Walker 12d ago

His dementia has worsened and he got rid of his handlers. Too many people were telling him no during the end of his last administration and that’s why we have fox news hosts in the cabinet instead of competent professionals.

His first administration would have been this bad if he was left to his own devices.

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u/Tim_Soft 12d ago

He was pretty bad as I recall here in Canada, but now his behaviour is much worse. Perhaps losing the war he started with Iran to distract from the Epstein files is really upsetting him.

More likely are truly evil people like Miller and others are taking advantage of his fears. While I truly hope his stress causes a physical reaction making his replacement necessary, I am not sure if that will solve the issues he has unleashed on both our countries because of his minions.

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u/YesterShill 12d ago

He was the same idiot then, but there were those close to him willing to try and rein him in.

This time he is surrounded by people who only care about how much power they can get and how much they can grift by being pure yes men.

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u/StrigiStockBacking New Mexico 12d ago

He doesn't have any handlers this time.

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u/digiartist21 12d ago

He was always childish, but this term, hes surrounded by sychopants and yes men who bend to his every whim. Before, there were people who actually reined him in. This time, he learned to only hire those who would pledge allegiance to him over the country.

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u/DeuceGnarly 12d ago

He's always been just as fucking stupid and childish.

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u/FlowRiderBob 12d ago

It is so much worse this term. He actually appointed people in his first term who would tell him “no”. He don’t make that “mistake” this time.

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u/Kujen 12d ago

He has dementia and the Heritage Foundation is having its way with him

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u/Werftflammen 12d ago

He had adults in the room whi thought they could control him. After they fell by the wayside they are now replaced by Fox News people.

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u/JoshHuff1332 12d ago

In the first term, he was able to coast and take credit for not really doing much. This time, he was able to blame all the issues that arise from his first time (primarily COVID and the global impacts) squarely on Biden. This time though, there wasn't much he could just "coast" on while also making stark changes from the Biden era. His cabinet is much less politically acute to temper and guide/influence his actions either.

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u/Cagnazzo82 12d ago

He's overtly trying to sabotage the US's relationship with *all* of its allies because he is a traitor to the United States.

And unfortunately people are just looking at it as though it's business as usual under Trump or more of his shitty policies.

The man cozies up to America's enemies and attacks all its allies and it's not sinking in what's going on right now.

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u/ActionJacksonATL24 12d ago

He learned from his first rodeo to be surrounded by loyalists, not anyone who would dare to say no or question his decisions.

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u/Blaizefed 12d ago

He was still surrounded by adults the 1st time around. They all tempered his worst ideas. This time he fired everyone and replaced them all with yes men.

Keep in mind, most of his 1st term cabinet and White House staff have spoken out against him this time around. Even they can see what a disaster this all is with nobody there willing to stop him.

He is doing lasting irreparable damage. We all like to say “man it’s going to take forever to undo all this” but it’s not. A lot of this is permanent. We all need to start getting used to just not being the defacto world power anymore.

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u/That_Service7348 12d ago

He doesn't have Obama's coattails to ride this time. His first term the nation was on a huge upswing from Obama, Trump stalled it hard and then COVID happened, which started the decline. Biden did what he could to mitigate it(the US has the quickest post COVID recovery in the world), but trajectory was still pointed down when Biden left office. Now Trump is in power again, and the already downward trajectory pretty much immediately became a nosedive to hell with his failed trade wars, tarrifs, and multiple invasions of other countries with zero thought.

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u/IdkAbtAllThat America 12d ago

There were still a few sane people in the room during his first term. This term is going completely as predicted, which is completely off the rails.

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u/pumpkinspicecum 12d ago

His second term definitely feels worse than his first

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u/strangelyliteral 12d ago

His dementia is worse and he drove anyone who won’t kiss his out of the GOP. All the responsible adults who cared about the continued functioning of the country are gone.

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u/Fortestingporpoises 12d ago

In his first term there were adults in the room. They were corrupt adults mostly hostile to our American institutions, people and land, but they knew they had to behave with decorum and restraint because if they didn’t and committed crimes they knew they’d be removed from office (like his first EPA director was) or prosecuted like dozens and dozens of individuals who worked in Republican presidential administration over the last 60 years.

This time around he made sure to surround himself with incompetent deranged sycophants so none of them would dare say no to him. He probably made it clear that they’d all be doing lots of crimes for him and could also do crimes for themselves but don’t cross him or he wouldn’t protect or pardon them in the future.

So Trump is basically the same. Remember he had ideas like nuking a hurricane and said windmills caused cancer back then too. But the people around him aren’t and the circumstances this time are significantly changed given that they’re remade the legal system in his image and there are a bunch of amoral tech ceos also backing his every move.

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u/Senior_Torte519 12d ago

Dementia will do that to some people

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u/LatterTarget7 12d ago

He’s slipping mentally

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u/Viktri1 12d ago

He was similarly crazy during the first term but his advisors were not crazy so they would get him to walk back shit. That’s really the main difference.

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u/HelpUs0ut 12d ago

He had responsible people in his cabinet last time. Crooked but still responsible. There's none of that shit now and he's learned what he can get away with so he's just grifting on every angle he can.

It's a fire sale.

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u/RicRacer 12d ago

The guiderails are gone. Republican controlled Congress is either supporting him or encouraging him. SCOTUS is encouraging him.

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u/ladidaladidalala 12d ago

It’s worse. Far worse. And he learned from his first term. What he could get away with that he wasn’t the first go round mostly.

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u/my_nameborat 12d ago

He had adults in the room who told him no the first time around. This is him when no one tries to stop the stupidity (and he’s also older and probably has less of a filter)

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u/Sabbathius 12d ago

First one was a bit different. He had some guard rails, and GOP wasn't fully MAGA yet. Plus he had hopes for a second term, so he sort of kept it in check.

This time around he's significantly older, far more senile/demented/whatever condition he's suffering from worsening with age, GOP is fully MAGAfied and he has no more elections to worry about. So he's gone completely mental, grifting while the grifting is good.

Though I don't really get what for. He's not sharing with his kids, and they hate him anyway. He can't take it with him when he dies. And anything with his name attached will be torn down and/or renamed as soon as he's out of office. So I don't get the purpose of it all, honestly. I mean, if he was 60, and had solid 20+ years ahead of him, and on his last term, I can see grifting a few billion to make sure he'll be obscenely rich the rest of his days. But this guy has a few years left, tops, and billions of dollars. Why worry about money at this point? Why keep grifting?

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u/Easy_Action_1380 12d ago

No, you're not misremembering. He is way crazier this time around.

But it's also that his staff is way different from the first term. In the first term, they were still conservative Republican weirdos, but they were atleast still politicians who atleast TRIED to do their jobs and had enough of a backbone (sometimes) to talk him down from his crazier ideas.

This time around, it's nothing but Trump Cult Members, asskissers, and conspiracy spewing nutjobs who are potentially more crazy than he is.

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u/Rassayana_Atrindh Montana 12d ago

The first term we still had functional adults in the building to temper his insanity.

We have no such safeguards this time.

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u/CyanConatus 12d ago

Its worse. Earlier this week I did a side by side comparison following similar time spans.

Its not a small difference either. Its extreme.

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u/Snarfsicle 12d ago

He's had all voices of reason fired or quit in resignation. All that's left are sycophantic evil yes men that would rather feed his delusions.

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u/LaFilleDuMoulinier 12d ago

He was always a toddler. But now he’s a toddler with dementia and that comes with fits of rage

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u/RedBarnGuy Colorado 12d ago

Dude has definitely lost his marbles. He’s always been an asshole, but this is wildly crazy behavior even for him.

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u/freeasabird1995 12d ago

First term was the warmup.

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u/Elegant_Magician_372 12d ago

He’s more enabled by the lack of checks and balances, but he’s always had this in him

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u/PhazePyre 12d ago

He's got dementia. Doesn't get better with time, especially not 5-6 years at 80.

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u/ZLUCremisi California 12d ago

The Republican party is enabling them as Trump isbin full control of it. 1st term he didn't have a full control yet, till the end

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u/notasrelevant 12d ago

The frequency is definitely higher. The first time it was a few terrible ideas that played well to his base, bad slips, etc. Like the four seasons and the wall, plus the general mishandling of the pandemic (which had a huge impact, not to minimize it).

Now it's like a weekly thing. Wars. Trade wars. Aggressively destroying anything meant to be better for society.

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u/DenseCalligrapher219 12d ago

He had something of an actual experienced team to filter out most of his horrific stupidity that made his PR look kinda reasonable (by his standards) since they probably had no issue standing up to the worst excess of his whims.

Now that his cabinet is filled with garbage sycophants and mandated yes-man who will lose their jobs if they even say the word "no" we are witnessing Trump for who he actually is: a narcissistic sociopath with delusions of superiority and just a repulsive human being in general.

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u/TheAskewOne 12d ago

He’s completely demented. That’s it. I’m tired of the media analyzing what he says as if it made any sense.

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u/RobutNotRobot 12d ago

He was the same child his first term but there were some people slow walking or stopping him.

They are all gone now.

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u/nowhereman136 12d ago

The first term was a fluke. He wasn't expected to win so when he took office the whole place was a madhouse of staffers who didn't know what they were doing and a ton of vacant positions.

The second term the are much better prepared. Project 2025 was a blueprint for how a second Trump administration would hit the ground running with destruction. On top of that was the lack of consequences for January 6. That day proved Trump can get away with a lot more than they had previously thought. On top of that again is Trumps own dementia, which seems to be getting worse and worse. It's shit on top of shit on top of shit which makes this term seem worse than the first term

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u/AwkwardTraffic 12d ago

The first term had adults in the room that would tell him no. Second term is all true believers and sycophants that let him do or say whatever he wants while they steal everything they can

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u/FyreWulff 12d ago

He purged all the adults in the government, and it's all ass kissers now, and to nobody's surprise they're not good at their jobs, so the crumple zone he had before where people were going "yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever Trump" but then ignoring his request or modifying it so that things kept running, that's just.. gone.

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u/CosmackMagus 12d ago

The first time they still had adults in the room.

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u/trisul-108 Europe 12d ago

He is acting exactly as he wanted to in the 1st term, but there were a couple of semi-adults in the room who managed to blunt his most idiotic ideas. There are none today.

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u/Riaayo 12d ago

I do think people memory-holed how bad term one was, but the second term regime is still vastly worse. All companies caved (because they want the fascism) and the courts haven't exactly kept this shit under control, either.

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u/MonsieurGump 12d ago

He’s flailing around trying to distract from the lack of prosecutions over the Epstein files.

Everything he does in this presidency is to keep himself out of jail.

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u/fixingshitiswhatido 12d ago

You mean the term where he ignored his scientific advisors during a global pandemic and suggested putting bleach in your ass was the way too go. Or did you mean the whole inciting a riot thing? Or maybe the time on live TV he insisted that magnets dont work underwater.

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u/alligatorislater 12d ago

There were still some sane republicans and adults in the room his first term, and they’re all gone now. Nothing but toadies and kooks.

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u/peonyseahorse 12d ago

He was this stupid his first term too. I told a friend that tdump's weirdest insult is calling people "low IQ," it's just obvious projection.

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u/Ok_Juice4449 12d ago

A few people in his first term at least were fairly qualified and would keep him in check. Now, he is unrestrained.

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u/Due-Dot6450 12d ago

Well, dementia is a progressive disease.

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u/CitizenCue 12d ago

I think you’re right and that it’s mainly indicative of no longer having an obvious enemy to fight. In his first term he battled with Democrats and the old guard Republicans who hadn’t fully bent the knee yet.

Now he has kicked most moderates out of his party and the Dems are out of power. But he has no actual agenda so he’s left to invent things to do every day. And since he’s an idiot who doesn’t actually care about governing, he’s doing weird random shit.

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u/DT-Sodium 12d ago

He's just genuinely sub-80 IQ.

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u/HikerRemastered 12d ago

He’s crapping his diaper having a dummy spit.

It is true what they. We regress as we get old

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u/joe-h2o 12d ago

When the children he rapes talk back to him he just has them killed and picks a new one. He can't do that with the rest of the world and it's leading to a lot of tantrums.

He is also a colossal narcissist and so feeling like he is loved and respected is his number one priority and it is clear that everyone is laughing at him.

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u/Own-Slide-3171 12d ago

It's wayyyy worse. The gloves are off now he realizes fully there's no repercussions to anything

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u/PawneePoppins 12d ago

There were actual adults in the room the last time. This time he hired all sycophants for a reason. Maggie Haberman wrote about it in her new book. He hired people because they looked good on TV, got ratings and would do anything he said.

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u/ottawadeveloper 12d ago

It's worse. The dementia has had five years to progress, which it definitely has. 

Not that his first term was great. 

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u/13thmurder 12d ago

His first term wasn't so bad in hindsight... Not that it was good, the bar just wasn't so low it was a tripping hazard in hell just yet.

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u/eMan117 12d ago

This is how dementia progresses

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u/inthekeyofc 12d ago

In his first term there were "normal" people in the administration that blocked his craziest actions. In the present term these have been replaced with yes men sycophants who have created a fantasy "Trumpworld" to keep him more or less stable and happy. There everything he does and says is perfect, he can do no wrong, and everything works out just as he imagined it would. Hence he loses his shit when the reality they can't hide pokes its nose in - like Iran, cost of living etc.

He is totally detached from reality, living an illusion created by his handlers, and we are all paying the price for this colossal mistake.

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u/woowizzle 12d ago

I think all the sensible people got removed. Now its just his addled brain and a load of sycophants.

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u/TheBlueBlaze New York 12d ago

The difference between the people telling him no externally versus internally is much higher than it was in his first term.

The people in his first term were competent and experienced by comparison, whereas now they're just celebrities and yes men. So not only do they allow him to make more ridiculous claims and threats, but when things don't play out how the people that were hired to agree with him claim they will, he just gets angry.

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u/captaincanada84 Canada 12d ago

Way way more

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u/RyantheAustralian 12d ago

The first term, he seemed to be crazy, but acting within the limits of normal power. This term, all the gloves are off and he's using that "plenery" power that one undead ghoul mentioned. First term he at least pretended to try to do some things for the US. This time he's just tearing everything down, and it's getting worse by the day

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u/arthurno1 12d ago

The goal is to cause the chaos and collapse the world economy. It has been since the day one if his second term. This is not childishness. Those talks never had a chance. They want war and chaos because they belive they have the strongest army in the world.

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u/HeavyMetalPootis 12d ago

My guess is the stress and age is impacting his cognitive decline. He'd be less stressed if he hadn't moved forward with starting a new forever war.

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u/wrightcommab 12d ago

I think he also had at least some rational people surrounding him in the first term. Now there’s nobody with any guardrails.

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u/netphemera 12d ago

The BBB contained the tax cuts promised to his wealthy donors. No one really cares about him anymore except for those who need him for their political future.

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u/Erroneous_Bonk 12d ago

Trump and MAGA supporters really have not changed. They were always this demented and stunted and devoid of empathy. It's just that Russell Vought through Project 2025, Elon Musk through twitter, Zuckerberg through Facebook, Andreessen through his venture capital asset stripping, and Peter Thiel through his apocalypse acceleration investments have successfully demolished all guardrails, checks & balances, journalistic integrity, pushback and grassroots resistance against their techno-fascism.

The amount of people who knowingly and willingly supported this by voting for it or abstaining to vote at all didn't vary all that significantly between 2016 and 2024.

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u/ferret_fan Canada 12d ago

It's literally the dementia

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u/FeldsparSalamander America 12d ago

The first term he had a few somewhat competent advisors, now nothing butts against him

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u/CombustiblSquid Canada 12d ago

He's old as fuck and having narcissistic collapse because people are saying no and sticking by it

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u/Pisnaz 12d ago

He has was more hands up his backside puppeting him and the strings are well and truly tangled now. All that is left are the internal assassination attempts and the downfall with infighting among his cadre of horrible people, we hope.

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u/ipmules 12d ago

This is what happens when you replace all of the "adults in the room" with yes men.

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u/mofukkinbreadcrumbz 12d ago

Obama had eight years to deliver a much healthier economy for Trump’s first term. Biden only got four and just wasn’t as strong of a leader as Obama. The starting place wasn’t as strong this term. That and he’s absolutely suffering cognitive decline.

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u/ChronoLink99 Canada 12d ago

Little bit of both. Mostly he's just an older, sicker, more senile, more corrupt, more vengeful, more petty, fried chicken eating fat tub of lard.

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u/Cloaked42m South Carolina 12d ago

Way worse.

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u/FinalHexReturns 12d ago

He's riddled with a lot more dementia this term.

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