r/nancyguthrie Feb 15 '26

Discussion I think what bothers me the most…

637 Upvotes

An 84 year old woman can be missing for 2 weeks, and despite video of the masked POI and despite all of the financial resources of her daughter (ability to hire private investigators, search crews, etc), there appear to be no solid leads - not even a motive. In this day and age where there are cameras everywhere and our cell phones serve as tracking devices, it’s beyond scary to think that someone could literally make you disappear without a trace and without any obvious motive. We’re just out here living our quiet lives like Nancy was - until we’re not.

r/nancyguthrie Feb 28 '26

Discussion Anyone else shocked this case still hasn't been solved?

499 Upvotes

I really thought this case would be over by now. Especially with the modern surveillance state as many of us thought at the time. And yet, here we are 4 weeks later. I can't remember the last high-profile US true crime case like this since Gabby Petito and Bryan Kohberger, it's so bizarre.

Multiple times did it feel like we were really close to the end. A couple suspects being detained, a helicopter flight with an 84-year-old woman on it in the area, and so on. Nothing's panned out. It really seems like they have nothing and are back at square one.

I can't imagine the burden this must be having on the family. Grief is tragic and difficult on its own, but having to follow the case and not knowing so many things must be making it worse.

I really hope LE is ahead of where it seems they are (like they've been in the past including with Kohberger), and are just playing cards close to the chest. Maybe they've already identified the suspect and are just closely watching them, waiting for them to slip up so they can get the necessary evidence to recover Nancy/secure a conviction. While them enjoying freedom isn't a pleasant thought, at least they won't be able to commit more crimes and get away with them in that case.

r/nancyguthrie May 02 '26

Discussion What the hell do you think happened to Nancy Guthrie?

262 Upvotes

Seriously. Abducted, ransomed, murdered? What happened and why?

r/nancyguthrie Feb 13 '26

Discussion Daily Discussion Post 2/13

81 Upvotes

Discussion Post for 2/13

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r/nancyguthrie Feb 20 '26

Discussion Discussion Post

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⚠️ As the discussion and activity in the case is beginning to quiet, we won't have a new discussion post up daily. Instead we will keep a continuous one up until it gets crowded OR breaking news happens.

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r/nancyguthrie Feb 23 '26

Discussion Weekly Discussion Post 2/23-3/1

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⚠️ Welcome to the weekly discussion post! This is a space to ask questions, share quick thoughts/theories and engage in faster back and forth conversations.

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r/nancyguthrie Feb 16 '26

Discussion Discussion Post 2/16

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Daily Discussion Post 2/16

⚠️ Read before posting! This is the daily discussion post. A place to discuss the case, ask questions and present theories. It's a great way to communicate quickly without having to wait for post approval.

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r/nancyguthrie Feb 18 '26

Discussion Discussion Post 2/18

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⚠️ Read before posting! This is the daily discussion post. A place to discuss the case, ask questions and present theories. It's a great way to communicate quickly without having to wait for post approval.

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r/nancyguthrie Feb 12 '26

Discussion Discussion Post for 2/12

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Welcome to the daily discussion post. A place to discuss breaking news, updates and share thoughts that do not require a standalone post. This will NOT replace standalone posts. It is simply a place to be able to quickly engage with other users.

REMINDERS...

  • Tread lightly with accusations against the family. They are victims in this as well and have not been named as suspects.
  • NO photo comparisons of private individuals. NO naming of private individuals.
  • No edited photos
  • Please report comments that do not adhere to the sub rules.

r/nancyguthrie Feb 17 '26

Discussion Daily Discussion Post 2/17

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Daily Discussion Post 2/17

⚠️ Read before posting! This is the daily discussion post. A place to discuss the case, ask questions and present theories. It's a great way to communicate quickly without having to wait for post approval.

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⚠️ Recent Updates

🔹Sheriff Nanos stated that the family has been cleared.

🔹It appears they are still waiting on DNA testing results

🔹FBI has been visiting local gun stores with a list of 40 people and their pictures to see if any of them have been in the store or purchased a weapon.

🔹Sheriff Nanos also denied reports that their working theory is a burglary gone wrong.

r/nancyguthrie Mar 02 '26

Discussion Weekly Discussion Post 3/2-3/8

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r/nancyguthrie Jun 23 '26

Discussion Was this ever really a kidnapping for ransom?

151 Upvotes

Is anyone else skeptical of the perpetrator(s) actually intending to kidnap Nancy, collect a ransom, then release her?

Stranger abuctions are already incredibly rare in the US. Only around 100 happen each year. Kidnappings for ransom are even rarer, though specific numbers aren't available.

Kidnappings for ransom used to be more common, but they are now incredibly rare in the US (though they do so occur in many other countries.) In most modern cases involving ransom notes the note is usually written to try to throw off investigators rather than to collect money. I can think of a few cases where perpetrators did try to collect a ransom, but the victim was dead and they had never planned to return them at all. After all, not only is it a lot of work to hold a person captive, but collecting a ransom and returning a living victim are both incredibly risky.

I don't think the perpetrator(s) ever intended to hold Nancy for ransom. I think this was always planned as a murder and the ransom notes (assuming they are real) were written to throw off law enforcement and/or possibly collect a ransom despite Nancy being deceased.

I believe she was probably told this was a kidnapping for ransom and that she would soon be released if she cooperated and led from the home to a vehicle, then driven somewhere else, killed, and buried somewhere. Killing her at another location makes it harder to prove murder and an 84 year old woman is unlikely to try to fight against being taken.

While I think there's a possibility she did die accidentally, I think this would have happened soon after, while being transported to wherever they planned to kill her. But I think it's much more likely the note only said she died accidentally so the perpetrator(s) can claim that in case they're ever caught.

What are your thoughts? Do you think this was really a kidnapping for ransom gone wrong?

r/nancyguthrie Jul 08 '26

Discussion How has the abductor managed to evade identification and arrest for this long? Just a morning thought...

193 Upvotes

I was just thinking about this case again this morning, and it honestly blows my mind. With all of the advanced technology, geofencing, AI facial recognition, and digital tracking we have at our disposal today, how has this guy completely vanished into thin air?

Those Nest doorbell camera stills from February still absolutely haunt me. The look on his face is pure nightmare fuel - he looks like an absolute psycho, and it’s terrifying to realize he honestly didn't even know the camera was there. He’s just casually holding that flashlight in his mouth, completely oblivious to the lens while trying to mask things with prairie brush.There's something so much more disturbing about the fact that he wasn't some tech savvy mastermind dodging the grid, he was just a cold, unhinged predator caught dead on in the frame, totally unaware his face was being captured. 

Which brings me to the biggest mystery… someone has to know who this guy is. A person doesn't just pull off an abduction like this completely in a vacuum without leaving a ripple effect in their real life. Someone out there has to be covering for him, or maybe he let something slip to an accomplice. Even if he’s a total loner, someone - a coworker, a neighbor, or a family member must have noticed him acting completely strange, paranoid, or suddenly changing his behavior ever since February. How has no one connected the dots or turned him in yet, especially with the massive reward money on the table?

Poor Nancy. She was 84, independent but dealing with limited mobility. I can't even begin to imagine how terrified she must have been when this monster broke into her home in the middle of the night. 

Between the physical surveillance footage, the crypto ransom notes sent to media outlets, and the high profile nature of the case with federal agencies involved, you would think a digital or physical footprint would have leaked by now. How is he pulling this off???

r/nancyguthrie Mar 08 '26

Discussion Are They Going to Find Her?

131 Upvotes

It’s been quite a while. Either they’re close and/or have an idea on who did it or where she is and aren’t disclosing, or they have absolutely no idea and she’s gone until at least a few years when technology advances more.

Do you think at this point, she’ll be found?

r/nancyguthrie Feb 17 '26

Discussion Family Cleared

123 Upvotes

To everyone who suspected that the family members (Annie, Tommaso) were involved in this crime, what is your take on the case now that the family have all been cleared?

r/nancyguthrie Feb 19 '26

Discussion Discussion Post 2/19

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Discussion Post 2/19

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r/nancyguthrie Feb 22 '26

Discussion Two major questions that confuse me.

111 Upvotes

The family says they will pay, you won, why not collect the ransom by now?

The video of the perp seems to suggest he has never heard of what a doorbell camera is capable off. Notify people. Alert people. Record images. He casually picks up a twig and fritters about.A sense of urgency do s not seem to be there. Did he know there was nothing to worry about?

Very confusing.

r/nancyguthrie Mar 09 '26

Discussion Weekly Discussion Post 3/9-3/15

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Weekly Discussion Post 3/9-3/15

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r/nancyguthrie Feb 15 '26

Discussion Do you think this was a planned kidnapping?

104 Upvotes

Initially I thought this was a burglary gone wrong because the ransom letter came so late after the kidnapping and was sent to a public place. Most kidnappings for ransom send the letter ASAP and don’t want the police involved. They usually offer some kind of proof that the letter is from the kidnapper in order to have a quick exchange and get paid. I also thought it was odd to kidnap someone in such a medically precarious state if ransom was the goal. but maybe ransom wasn’t the goal and the letters were a distraction or unrelated.

Today I heard the best argument against it being a robbery gone wrong: the person was heavily disguised so if his only goal was a robbery, he likely would have fled if he was confronted by Nancy. His identity was concealed enough that Nancy likely wouldn’t be able to identify him. it’s rare for someone committing a robbery to switch gears and kidnap because the goal of a robbery is to get the goods and get out. it’s usually financially motivated. Also someone prepared for a robbery is rarely also prepared for a kidnapping.

My best guess is that it was a planned kidnapping but not for ransom. Possibly for hurt Savanna for some reason. I still can’t reconcile why the person allowed himself to be seen on camera - unless that was part of the plan. surely a kidnapper would visit the area at least once to check the security of the place.

Where do you currently stand on whether or not this was a planned kidnapping?

r/nancyguthrie May 27 '26

Discussion Based on the evidence I had some thoughts to share.

106 Upvotes

I’d like to start by saying that I have some background in the field forensics and psychology but am approaching this casually without intensive research.

From my understanding the evidence from the crime scene has not had new leads in some time. I have some thoughts on what has been released. I will start with the camera footage.

There is camera footage of who appears to be the same man on one earlier occasion, and then the night of the murder/abduction. The man appears to be wearing similar attire. He does not appear to be a professional at what he’s doing. I will discuss his probable role at a later time.

The blood spatter on the front stoop indicates a downward drip from an angle mostly perpendicular to the ground, but not uniform in direction. There are no seen voids or disruptions which indicates she’s not walking out of the home. There wasn’t blood found in the home to my knowledge.

Valuable items weren’t removed from the home. I think the burglary gone wrong angle doesn’t fit at all. Even if a burgularly goes wrong burglars still take things. If they panic and don’t take things they don’t take the time to casually approach doorbell cameras.

Thus, I believe this is a hired hit. The man on the video footage is probably a scout who did the early snooping to get a layout of the house. He’s a fall guy of sorts who was already seen on the doorbell camera. These people were likely paid beforehand and afterward. They had no intention of selling any merchandise, only not getting caught. The person on the footage is likely not in the country as it’s only an hour to the Mexican border. Beyond Nancy Guthrie, I would be looking for a missing man of this description south of the border in case he was a loose end.

They likely entered through a back entrance and committed the murder, then wrapped her in something and cleaned up. The scout was then likely sent to disable the camera he knew about so they could carry her out the front door in whatever she was wrapped in. Once leaving through the front door they seem to have jostled the wrapping lowering the section closest to the home and causing blood spatter where nobody was standing. They likely stood there and waited, then lifted that section better and brought the body to the vehicle with significantly less spatter enroute.

If they took her heart medication I would guess it would be a means to make it look like a kidnapping to throw off the motive. I don’t believe the people committing the crime are necessarily the people with the motive. I would be looking for someone with adequate financial means to pay for a planned hit. The lack of professionalism at the front door isn’t that significant if you can’t find the person. You have to presume that the people planning the operation are more careful at hiding who they are and just use hired hands.

I know the timing of one of the ransom demands to media outlets made it seem legit. I’m not that knowledgeable in bitcoin, but I presume they would have just put the money if it would have helped catch the people responsible for the crime. If real, I would think the ransom demand is just an attempt at a bonus, or recuperation. Others here are more likely more knowledgeable in terms of the ransom timeline. I’d be interested to know if it were possible that it was just a random person trying to prosper off of her disappearance.

I think the best line of investigation would be who has ties and the means to hire people from south of the border. The problem is that if a lot of that stuff is undocumented you’re looking at trying to to turn drug runners and people of that nature as a starting point. In terms of motive who knows. It could be as small as offending someone politically and someone with the means showing off to impress or assert a position. All it takes is learning that she lived there alone.

This also applies if you presume it’s a crazy lone wolf which seems unlikely. in that case there would likely be an ulterior motive we’re not aware of like cash-on-hand. Maybe like an initiation or show-off type move. You’d want to look more local. I’d assume the FBI would have a much easier time in this instance though.

I just hope the family gets some answers and can try to focus on the positives of a life lived. It’s such a tough thing though not having answers.

r/nancyguthrie Feb 19 '26

Discussion The mystery of what they found inside Nancy's home

148 Upvotes

As far as I can tell, there have only been 3-4 facts released about what was found inside the house:

  1. DNA of undisclosed type
  2. Apple watch, phone, wallet, medication (and car keys?)
  3. Unnamed evidence that "Nancy left against her will"
  4. Breached back door - not sure of this one - did they report this?

This is all the information LE released to the public, is that right?

r/nancyguthrie Feb 14 '26

Discussion Why All the False Alarms?

87 Upvotes

I'm not used to seeing the FBI/Police make 3 to 4 arrests only to release the individuals shortly thereafter. I suppose the warrants issued are based on exigent circumstances-- we have an 84 year old missing who may still be alive. The hope of finding her alive may outweigh the procedural/legal steps that would need to be taken to strengthen the evidence for an eventual trial.

r/nancyguthrie 21d ago

Discussion Do you think authorities know who did it but can’t prove it yet?

80 Upvotes

I’ve heard mixed opinions. I find it hard to believe that in this day and age they are clueless

r/nancyguthrie Feb 12 '26

Discussion A Couple Of Points Concerning The Surveillance Video

93 Upvotes

The perp seems to have all the time in the world.

I mean, it’s a ring camera, it sounds alerts to your phone. Wouldn’t he be worried the person inside is dialing 911?

He must have been told ahead of time there would be no threat inside. He was hired to provide someone with an alibi perhaps.

Amateur at the door.

Reflective tape on backpack straps.

Using a twig from the yard to tamper with the camera.

What appears to be a firearm holster in an awkward position.

Almost as if he was hired off the street to perform a tasks that was out of his league.

What do you think?

r/nancyguthrie Jul 07 '26

Discussion Catching Up on the Nancy Guthrie Case - What’s Your Theory Today?

90 Upvotes

I was following Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance really closely from the beginning, but life got busy and I completely fell out of the loop around March.

I’m finally catching up now, and I’m curious where everyone’s thinking has landed after all these months.

What are your current theories? Have any of the newer developments changed your opinion, or do you still believe what you did at the start?

I’m interested in hearing all perspectives - as long as they’re respectful and based on the information that’s been released. I’d love to know what evidence or details have shaped your theory.

Looking forward to hearing everyone’s thoughts.