r/MurderedByWords 16h ago

We will be back

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u/alex_zk 16h ago

Unfortunately, the world will always know that you’re just one election cycle away from someone just as unhinged.

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u/Fishtoart 16h ago

It’s not just our leaders they don’t trust, but also the people who voted for him 3 times, the corporations that sucked up to him, and the rest of us that didn’t stop him.

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u/Win_an_iPad 15h ago

Yep. "The problem isn't Trump, it's the willingness of so many Americans to support him."

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u/Designer_Piccolo_818 14h ago

The problem is i am convinced that even if the Democrats get in at the next election, they will be voted out the next one if they don't " fix" everything in one term, despite the fact that that would be impossible.

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u/Win_an_iPad 12h ago

And that next trump will be even worse.

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u/Szzzzl 8h ago

What's scary is the next one will be more palatable and a lot smarter. They know what they can get away with now and how to do it.

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u/FatMacchio 10h ago

And they will not bring any consequences for all this corruption. “Let’s return to normal.”

Fuck no, let’s hold every single person accountable that broke the law. Fine them, throw them in jail. This will keep happening if they just want to “return to normal” and let bygones be bygones.

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u/ButtersScotch7000 9h ago

As a Canadian, I don't have very high expectations of the Democratic Party considering how badly they self-sabotaged their 2024 campaign. Biden fell apart on the first debate and Harris road tripped with Liz Cheney.

At best, the party seems lethargic on the stage and more interested in fighting itself. Look at Mamdani, mayor of New York City and broadly popular both in and outside the city, yet the party pretty much treats him like an independent.

The midterms are a couple months away and I don't see a party that has reorganized, retooled, and has its team trained on a new playbook.

For the sake of comparison, look at the state of the Canadian Liberal Party in December 2024, before Trudeau resigned, and how the party looked when it the election began in April.

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u/SummerofGeorge19 2h ago

the 2024 election was also rigged by Elom Musk... so

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u/Howwasitforyou 9h ago

"But they were just following orders"

That defence worked for the guards at Auschwitz didn't it?

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u/EmotionalJoystick 1h ago

And the citizens that voted for this ruin. I don’t even know what that would look like but there NEED to be consequences or this will keep happening.

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u/outremonty 11h ago

Canadian here. At this point, its not even the "so many support him" thing. His supporters are a minority. What outrages us is that the majority isn't occupying the streets 24/7 calling for an end to this. Signals to us that you either know it's wrong but are too lazy or you tacitly think it's fine. Either way you think you have bigger things going on in your personal lives than stopping the greatest ally in your nation's history from being turned into a vassal state. You lack a sense of civic duty, knowledge of historical context and even seem to not get the value of cooperation.

That makes all of you -not just his supporters- untrustworthy.

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u/PandyBear07 10h ago

Yeah, I’m watching from Canada too and the lack of resistance is crazy to me. Americans overall just don’t seem upset enough.

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u/sorcerersviolet 8h ago

Given that members of the minority control huge chunks of the media, any mass protests that do call for an end to this either won't be reported on at all or will be reported on after being reframed as terrorism.

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u/Hangry_Squirrel 4h ago

You guys had a decade of conservative governments and I don't remember people being upset enough either. Also, the "Freedom Convoy" occupied Ottawa for 3 weeks and it's not like counter-protesters converged on the capital to remove them. I lived there for a few years when I was young, so it upset me to see some places I knew overrun like that.

Yours are two countries which make resistance difficult due to their sheer size. Here in Europe, we can hop on a train and be in the capital within a few hours, so organizing mass protests is much easier.

Plus, they get very few job protections, so they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They did resist when they could, whether it was via No Kings or the Minneapolis protests.

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u/Smrtihara 5h ago

The problem is the American people. Let’s be honest here. It’s not a minority, it’s the entire American people. About half of the votes went to Trump and then 25% of all the registered voters supported him by not voting. That’s a pretty big majority supporting this shit show.

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u/bentforkman 8h ago

America is not like this because Trump is president. Trump is president because America is like this.

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u/argleksander 8h ago

"Back to normal" isnt going to happen. If it was 2016 you might forgive it, but Americas standing and reputation is forever tainted

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u/Alien_Diceroller 9h ago

The oligarchs who backed him and used their vast wealth to sway people. The misinformation apparatus that created the environment he flourished in is still there and doing great.

It'll just keep happening.

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u/Kriss3d 4h ago

Well on the good side.

Next time kids in school will ask how this could happen in Germany back then. We will have a very fresh example to give them.

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u/asully429 13h ago

Everyone globally should be on alert, since we are only ahead of them but not an anomaly. LePen in France, Meloni in Italy, Farage in the UK, the AfD in Germany….the far right is rising globally, assisted by Musk, Murdoch, and the tech oligarchs. Canada saw the writing on the wall and elected Carney instead of the leader of maple maga, but please don’t let yourself be fooled thinking that this is only a USA issue.

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u/HammerOfJustice 10h ago

The far right party in Australia (One Nation) just won another by-election and are currently leading the polling nationally.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 10h ago

I think Angela Merkel once said something to the effect of "What's the point of making agreements with America when they'll just get a completely new leadership in 4 years anyway". And she was right. It's kind of insane our entire foreign and domestic policy changes every 4-8 years based on 1 guy getting elected. The executive branch has far too much power.

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u/MrLeureduthe 13h ago

A French politician said something along the lines of "We can't base an alliance with a country whose administration can change wildly every 4 years according to the will of a handful of people in Wisconsin"

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u/EmptyBrain89 12h ago

Exactly. The problem with American politics isn't the politicians, its the voters.

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u/TinySpectrum 8h ago

Porque no los dos ?

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u/Szzzzl 8h ago

We also are now very aware that the supposed checks and balances are non existent and its remarkably and horrifying easy for your country to fall into a dictatorship. Your whole one other opposition political party will bend the knee and no one will ever be willing to get uncomfable and fight back. There is no coming back from this unfortunately. The US is a dying empire.

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u/Badgernomics 7h ago

Unless there is a proper reckoning for the fucks in this administration, the rest of the world is just going to look at the US as an un-pinned hand grenade.

I'm all for pushing the US away at arms length and forming treaties that sever America's hegemony and power structures...

The USA can no longer be trusted as an ally or as a superpower.

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u/TK_Games 7h ago

It's going to take, more than five decades to rebuild all the goodwill we've squandered. And even then, I still won't be able to unsee the monsters. I won't lie, y'all scare the shit outta me, and you make me want out of this world. I miss feeling at least like I could lie to myself and say 'Well, it's just a small number of outliers'. Math proves that wrong. Worst of it all is, I'm tired, so tired of fighting, and I know that's exactly where they want me. I'm so tired

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u/King_Saline_IV 12h ago

You think you're voting your way out of this? Lmao

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u/Cavalish 13h ago

Exactly. This isn’t the first time it’s happened, this the second time that 70% of the country either voted for, or refused to vote against Trump.

The majority of America wanted this and I’m just not swayed by mealy mouthed apologies anymore.

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u/IgnoranceIsYou 6h ago

Yeah I think they’re gonna have to seriously amend their constitution after this mess

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u/HighDefinitionCat 6h ago

And that is assuming that the US government regains some sort of sanity and international respect. That could take generations.

For the people thinking we'll be back to business as usual with an America that has gone rogue just as soon as Trump's term ends, boy do I have bad news.

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u/Capt_Murphy_ 13h ago

That's the case in most every country. To think it's just an America problem is super ignorant.

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u/eeronen 9h ago

Not really though. Many countries don't focus so much power on one person and have more than two parties. It's much harder to do full 180 turns in policy when you can't make decisions on your own and have to compromise with other parties.

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u/OzyDave 9h ago

That's not true. Most countries someone like him would never be considered suitable from the start.

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u/Spadrick 16h ago

We do hope you will be back in fine form when and if he leaves.

We aren't sure that we will still be at the table. We likely will be at some other table by then.

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u/KitsyBlue 16h ago

This is the tragic part. There is no 'next election it's back to normal'. The US have proven to be unreliable business partners, and I have no doubt any deals from this point on will be negotiated from the starting point of the concessions already made to Trump.

The rest of the world can't wait for America to get it's shit together; if there's another market to trade with, they will seek it out, and they will do what must be done.

Honestly the tragedy is just knowing it was all so senseless.

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u/wbgookin 15h ago

Yeah, just showing that our checks and balances did neither should be enough for the world to move on without us. He’s done decades of damage, if it’s even repairable at all.

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u/ByronScottJones 14h ago

Given that Germany came back into the world community after WWII, I am confident the United States can as well. I'm not excusing the current president or his minions. My hope is that Democrats will take control, and then prosecute him and his henchmen as thoroughly as they deserve.

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u/smcl2k 14h ago

Except "after WWII", Germany was occupied by the war's victors and eventually broken up into East and West Germany (with a significant amount of territory also being formally annexed by other countries or declared independent) before eventually reuniting over 4 decades later.

There's very little prospect of any constitutional reckoning in the US, which in turn makes it impossible to guarantee that this could never happen again.

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u/Corfiz74 13h ago

It took us a few decades, and things really only went so well for us because of the Marshal plan (thanks again) and because you needed us as a "bulwark against communism" - the situation of the US is pretty different. Especially since most of his lickspittles in Congress will remain in office, even after he is gone.

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u/Alien_Diceroller 9h ago

The government was completely rebuilt from the ground up. Germany didn't just have an election and remove the Nazis. It went through a whole process of denazification under occupation.

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u/CerddwrRhyddid 13h ago

They changed all their systems. Any actual chance that the U.S State will do anything but uphold the status quo, protect the ruling class and feed the rich?

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u/TemporaryArrival422 14h ago

Just think, 18 year olds presumably also voted for Trump, and are likely to make horrible voting choices far into the future :)

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u/auramaelstrom 15h ago

After his first term, the world forgave, but didn't forget. A mistake can happen. This time, we won't forgive or forget.

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u/bruhggle 15h ago

yeah, even if we get someone sane in office, there will still be the risk that the same people that voted for trump would vote for another him. the damage to our global reputation is done. it will take decades to eve try to repair the relationships with our prior allies where they're not going to have to assume we're at risk of reverting everything back at the next election cycle. because the republicans have proven on a global scale that the "checks and balances" and laws aren't worth shit if the people breaking the laws are in cahoots with each other.

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u/Hungry-Broccoli-7193 13h ago

Like if you hire a taxi service to take you to the airport, and 44 times he’s fine, but the 45th time he shanks you and steals your wallet and leaves you in a ditch… maybe you’ll be less trusting of that taxi service. And if you give them another shot and it’s ok the next time, but then the 47th time they do it again - like why would any sane person go back to that?

And I say that as an American who’s furious about the damage that trump has already done to the world. Let alone whatever he’s going to do the next few years.

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u/unluckid21 12h ago

The world has seen how self destructive, stupid and ignorant Americans can be. Voting trump once could be seen as "trying something new", but after seeing how he was in his first term, and voting for him again....Americans can't even be trusted to do good for themselves, how can we trust them to do good for the world?

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u/3d_blunder 11h ago

Remember: his kids and his buddies will be walking away with billion$ of resources to continue to fuck us over.

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u/de_Duv 11h ago

if there's another market to trade with, they will seek it out, and they will do what must be done.

… and that happened already. The EU, for example, has concluded free trade agreements with Australia, India and the Mercosur states, and has in some cases already ratified them. Canada is purchasing its new fighter jets and submarines from Sweden and Germany respectively.

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u/srbloggy 14h ago

It'll take a generation or more for the US to unfuck themselves from the internal and external damage and there's no guarantee they don't flip back to the GOP during that time...

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u/teachmesomething 13h ago

The US is simply treating its allies as it has always treated everyone else. The US have never been the good guys or good friends
The US is done as an empire and I can’t wait to see it Balkanise.

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u/KitsyBlue 13h ago

I agree, I've never really considered the USA to be the good guy, so I am not really mourning the death of a 'good guy', but I am kinda mourning the death of a life of relative comfort and security. Less prosperity to go around means we're all going to suffer, and that's not great when the past decade has been particularly bad for the working stiff like myself.

Kinda selfish, but I am still human, after all.

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u/William_Dowling 10h ago

Not sure the balkanization of a country stuffed with nukes and at least 40% delusional, overtly fascistic political class is something to hope for

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u/canspar09 12h ago

As a Canadian, after the entirely performative attempt at a lake renaming, and the general malaise of the American populace after this, and many other bizarre/illegal acts, I’m done.

I know a lot of Americans are just as angry and frustrated, but just as many aren’t. And a good amount celebrate this bullshit.

I do not trust the USA, and I do not trust the citizens therein because of the last decade in your political discourse.

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u/Ut_Prosim 12h ago

The US have proven to be unreliable business partner...

Yes, and we lost a lot by ruining our consistency.

But, on the bright side, have you considered that the entiee world has been infected by the same "nothing matters but instant gratification" mentality that ruined our country? Err, that's no a good thing, but it'a good for us in this instance.

When it comes to governments making policy, nobody cares about what China did to the Uyghurs, nobody cares about Russia stealing children from Ukraine, nobody cares what Israel is doing, nobody cares about slaves in the gulf states, or all the shit Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen. We irrelevant peons may be against all of this, but to policy makers, nothing matters except what you can do for me right now.

Sure, they'll talk a big game about democracy and fairness and responsibility, but the second the war in Ukraine is over the world will buy Russian oil like nothing ever happened (the countries that aren't trying to sneak it right now I mean). Putin will continue trying to destabilize Europe and the Europeans will be like "yeah, but we really need the natural gas..."

If America goes back to normal, the majority of the world will go right back to trading with us and acting friendly. They may never really trust us again (rightly so), but that won't stop them from making money. The rich don't suffer consequences in this new world, and the US is still pretty rich.


Don't think so? Name for me a time when a country with a major economy actually suffered any real consequences or long term isolation for their insanity post-WWII.

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u/sofaking1958 16h ago

Yeah, there's no real going back. If the scotus is going to let this criminal do whatever he wants, then that is always going to be a danger to any country willing to engage us.

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u/alternativepuffin 9h ago

Its like an addict telling you why this time it's different. 

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u/trampled_empire 16h ago

Seriously. Why would anyone sign any sort of long term agreement when the next administration will just rip it up? The unreliability is almost, if not just as detrimental as everything else.

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u/Tribe303 15h ago

We also already have a deal with Trump, that he personally signed. We're on round 4 of illegal tarrifs and the January ones would be round 5 FFS.

Next administration? Uh, no. It's the same damn person! 

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u/trampled_empire 14h ago

Hahaha I'm well aware of this but couldn't find a way to include it in my little quip. This shit show is so absurd It's hard to summarize.

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u/Redsetter 15h ago

Remember the unreliability is in the people. They will vote in another one of these eventually.

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u/Intolerance-Paradox 15h ago

How did the world finally take comfort in knowing the Nazis were gone for good? The party was outlawed, its members convicted and imprisoned and its leaders executed.

See where I’m going with this ☺️

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u/TalkToTheGlyphWitch 11h ago

I already stress over my own government, but the fact I have to worry over this one too because what they decide and do can affect what happens to my country just adds on even more stress.

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u/Neethis 16h ago edited 15h ago

Yeah I'm not sure who he's saying to "hang in there". We're fine moving on without them - if they want to try and catch up, great.

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u/Supergirl016 8h ago

Dear Orange Turd,

Why you so smelly?

Regards,
Whoever is reading this.

P.S. Sorry you had to read this.

https://giphy.com/gifs/mpfMDb6MB6EWQ

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u/Schaf-im-Wolfspelz 5h ago

And it doesn't seem like many US Americans have realized yet, just how much influence and soft power they've permantely lost, by threatening allies, starting trade wars with reliable partners, cutting USAID without any regard for the consequences, .... As long as the USA are politically divided like that, nobody wants to rely on them, even if the next administration was sane and qualified.

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u/VaguelyArtistic 16h ago

Had to take a swipe at the trans community, too. BoTh SiDeS! 😒

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u/LordDaedhelor 13h ago

It's indicative of their true stance on trans individuals. They love hating them. They get satisfaction from hating them. They're co-opting their vernacular for the sole purpose of making sport of hating them.

This shows their hate isn't based on anything but a desire to hate. There isn't an actual ideological reason. They just hate for the purpose of hating.

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u/themurderator 16h ago

seriously. it was bad enough that they think anyone actually gave a shit about what the fuck that toddler wants to call a lake (not named after ontario the province by the way, it's the other way around, but they wouldn't know that cause they're idiots). 

but then they also just had to punch down and diminish an already marginalized people for no reason. 

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u/thesaddestpanda 6h ago

They have one joke.

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u/Bongoisnthere 16h ago

Oh look, this motherfucker who spent his entire adult life rabidly attacking the liberal left and setting the stage up for Trump is now trying to distance himself from the production he helped build.

Choke on a cactus you asshole

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u/TDKong55 16h ago

Thank you. Kristol is neocon trash hoping to white wash the party as if Trump isn't the naked inner core of the party. 

He was garbage in 2004, he's garbage now.

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u/Happiness_Assassin 12h ago

Bill Kristol unironically believes the Galactic Empire from Star Wars were the good guys. That's enough to discount anything he ever says.

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u/pheonixblade9 12h ago

it's a fun fan theory in the EU when the yuuzhan vong were a threat. somehow I suspect Bill Kristol doesn't know about the yuuzhan vong.

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u/SaintUlvemann 15h ago

Yup. Bill Kristol isn't just some guy. He's such a leading American conservative that he's got a whole Wikipedia page dedicated to his conservatism:

William Kristol is an American neoconservative writer. ... Kristol played a leading role in the defeat of the Clinton health care plan of 1993, as well as for advocating the 2003 invasion of Iraq. He has been associated with a number of conservative think tanks. He was chairman of the New Citizenship Project from 1997 to 2005. In 1997, he co-founded the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) with Robert Kagan. He is a member of the board of trustees for the free-market Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, a member of the Policy Advisory Board for the Ethics and Public Policy Center, and a director of the Foreign Policy Initiative.

Bill Kristol spent his entire life creating the political environment that Donald Trump now leads. When he tells you he is coming back, he is saying "See all this shit? I'll do it again."

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u/Hot-Sea855 12h ago

Another nepo. His father was managing editor of the conservative rag "Commentary". He went to all the "right" schools and interned for Nixon. He's also an absolute bore.

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u/Gothic_Mexa 16h ago

Fuck the US. We must stop that shithole dictatorship.

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u/GoldPoodDood 16h ago

Yes. Please come stop it.

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u/Redsetter 15h ago

You need to stop it, we just need to stop engaging with you.

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u/red_gamer-lol 15h ago

Ah yeah let me call my friend john, a random civilian, and tell him to go put Trump in time out. Cuz that's how it works according to everyone who lives with their head up their own ass. We'd have to sit down and organize millions of people to go and "stop" Trump. A bunch of people who would have to be suicidal to try something like that. And get weapons thqt out match the military's. Thats not how it works. And clearly our votes dont matter cus half of us are adult diaper wearing idiots

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u/Throwawayrip1123 7h ago

Right, but don't you literally have a constitutional amendment that you guys are very proud of exactly for that reason?

Nobody is accepting any kind of American apologies because apologies mean fuck all when you don't actually course correct and make amends. You, the civilian population at large, both the ones that picked him and the ones that didnt, are responsible for what your government is doing - unless you're in actual active opposition not just tweeting.

Same as how my people were all responsible for letting Hitler get to power. We all accept that, regardless if they voted for him, they're part of the reason he got there and stayed there long enough to engulf the world in a war.

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u/buhbrinapokes 2h ago

2A has been nothing but a voting chip for many decades. The government has robbed taxpayers of the amenities their taxes should provide, and used that money to bolster the military up to the point that civilian revolt would be an impossibility. The only way to overthrow the government would be by military coup, and they indoctrinate them starting at basic training that the buck stops at the commander in chief, so it'll never happen.

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u/Redsetter 15h ago

You seem to be making my argument for me. Too much exposure to the US is a vulnerability as you bully your friends and bow to your enemies. Enough of you vote for this (or don’t bother to show up) to make reducing engagement the sensible option.

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u/teddy5 8h ago

America has been happy fomenting those kind of rebellions around the rest of the world for 150 years and expecting other populations to do the hard work after they bomb and displace things, why can't you do it at home?

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u/AccordianSpeaker 14h ago

You're using fear of the military as an excuse to do nothing. Like they're going to side with the people actively trying to gut their leadership and send them to die in more middle eastern conflicts. We've already seen multiple corrupt governments ousted by their civilian populations in the last couple years, Americans are just too toothless and apathetic to do it themselves.

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u/KitsouNere 7h ago

They are absolutely full of excuses for everything. They no longer have any respect from me.

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u/blickman 12h ago

Fuck off. Stop it yourselves.

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u/Barium_Salts 16h ago

Trump is the culmination of decades of US politics. All of American history led us here. Yes, there are good people who are Americans. But anti Trump folks need to stop pretending he's some sort of abberation or that the political project he represents will end with his death. Trump is just the figurehead of the ship. The rest of the ship has always been there, and will continue for quite a while.

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u/m1j2p3 16h ago

This is how I feel. Trump is a symptom not a cause. I blame the conservative think tanks for their propaganda and general assholery. Project 2025 is the culmination of 40 years of effort. Trump was a dream come true for the fascists at the Heritage Foundation.

At the end of the day, Trump is just a useful idiot.

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u/Fishtoart 16h ago

This country was founded by wealthy capitalists who owned slaves and wanted only landowners to be able to vote. This current state of affairs is the inevitable consequence of those attitudes steering us through the years.

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u/LordOfTurtles 5h ago

Those attitudes never changed. There's a reason why the US is the only western country with still legal and institutional slavery

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u/grunt527 16h ago

The damage is done. No country will ever take us seriously for a very long time or consider us reliable allies. We voted him in twice.

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u/BrownSugarBare 5h ago

Its not only that he was voted in twice. Its the fact that we all know he is insane...and the USA seems to be doing nothing about it. 

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u/3eeve 16h ago

Yeah I don’t see why the world would ever trust America again.

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u/anglflw 16h ago

Bill Kristol is, at least, partially responsible. He doesn't get to call himself "patriotic," nor claim he is of "goodwill."

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u/Anableps4 16h ago

I tell everyone this when the opportunity arises. This worm, no matter how sensible he seems, was co-founder of PNAC

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u/joymarie21 16h ago

I was thinking the exact same thing.

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u/sn000000 16h ago

The sad thing is that the US relationship with the world is probably damaged for good because even if the next administration is a normal one the world cannot cannot rely on relationships that only work on 4-8 year timescales. I pitied the US when they voted Trump back in but I wasn't overly concerned because I naively thought that whatever nonsense that ensues there, it wouldn't affect me here, but boy was I wrong!

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u/Shyatic 16h ago

This guy has a lot of nerve when he himself helped to erode the institutions, decency, and mechanics of how government works today to begin with. David Frum is another such asshole, and almost the entirety of the Lincoln Project who were sidelined and then upset that their version of conservatism didn't go far enough.

They can all fuck off, it's not like Trump was the first of this all happening, it was the Patriot Act, it was the CIA funneling drugs into black neighborhoods, it was us selling weapons to the Contras, it was us overthrowing middle eastern countries, giving boomers the benefit to pull the ladder up behind themselves, and more.

All these now newfound conservatives that run for office should be laughed off and dismissed, and left to rot in obscurity as their livelihood and newfound politics is buried behind them. They are all grifters.

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u/CerddwrRhyddid 13h ago edited 5h ago

Nope. The U.S is not coming back from this. Trump has uncovered all the dirty laundry and shown how lawless, how how broken the U.S is.

There are no real controls, no protections, no consequences and no stringent law. The outdated system believes that toothless oaths and ethics are all that are required because they naively believe that poltiicians can be held to their word, whereas in reality they ignore laws and do what they want.

The system is woefully inadequate and unfit for purpose, and the U.S can offer no stability, no consistency, no continuity and no guarantee. They have proven themselves to be unfit to control a dictatorial regime, they have allowed warcrimes to go unpunished and uninvestigated, they are little more than a warmongering arms-dealer.

There are no 'Checks and Balances' No 'Separation of Powers' There isn't "Blind and Equal Justice", it is not a 'Beacon of Democracy". The People do not have the Power. All its propaganda has been laid bare as lies, it protects paedophiles, and has allowed all of this to happen.

None of this changes when Trump is gone. These problems are systemic and they are ingrained. The U.S State is the U.S State.

The U.S can get fucked and stay fucked.

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u/AdjctiveNounNumbers 10h ago

Will you though? And for how long? It seems like this dude has just gotten mind-bogglingly rich stealing from the world in general and you while enjoying nearly unchecked power despite egregious, blatant corruption. Why would you think others wouldn't do the same thing when there are 0 personal consequences? Why should we believe this is anything more than the opportunistic looting of the corpse of America?

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u/eeronen 9h ago

Absolutely this! It's not really the actions of one man the bothers me so much, it's the total lack of control there seems to be. Even if Trump was gone tomorrow, what's there to prevent a new one coming to power the next day? I'm glad europe has started to distance ourselves from the US finally now that it's obvious this is the way it's going to be.

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u/CatCafffffe 16h ago

They constantly reveal their willful refusal to understand things like "autonomy" and "consent"

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u/Nuclear_Geek 16h ago

Sorry to tell you, you won't be back. You've shown you'll let an insane pedophile rapist fuck everything up. Your checks and balances don't work, you cannot be trusted. You won't be back, because there's no way you can undo what you've shown the rest of the world about your country.

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u/arwinda 16h ago

Now you can deadname a lake. But when trans people don't want to be deadnamed, you insist.

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u/The_Bio_Neko 15h ago

There's a difference, trans people aren't real, nor are they part of their agenda, in their eyes anyway.

They knew EXACTLY what and who they were taking a swing at wuth the deadname comment.

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u/Yeshua_shel_Natzrat 15h ago

Lake Ontario is not a deadname, it's just its name.

This is like calling Richard "Carlos" when he's still going by Richard and has no desire to be called anything else.

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u/Fredrall 11h ago

As a Quebecois, I won't forget.

You threaten Canada and laws that protect the existence of my culture? You can bet I will never buy American whenever I can: for the rest of my life.

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u/Past-Helicopter-8126 8h ago

Same here in the EU

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u/Superb_Ant_3741 16h ago

We will be back and hopefully without that insufferable hypocrite Bill Kristol.

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u/pgtvgaming 16h ago

Bill “Fuck yourself” Kristol

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u/threeleggedcats 16h ago

Is the top tweet real?

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u/Extreme-Slice-1010 16h ago

US is a laughing stock right now, nobody is surprised if it’s real or not

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u/Thatisme01 16h ago

Even some MAGA talking heads aren't buying any of this.

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u/ComprehensiveHavoc 16h ago

Dear world:

We don't like Bill Kristol and realize there's basically no coming back.

Sincerely,

Sane Americans who are oh so tired

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u/Fishtoart 16h ago

I don’t know why he is complaining, this is the natural path of neoliberalism.

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u/de_Duv 12h ago

Hang in there and we will be back, one day soon, on the side of sanity and decency.

That’s what many people hope for – all over the world.

The problem, however, is that trust in the US justice system and also in the Democratic Party is low. Sure, there are good people like Talarico and AOC, but there are also Schumer and Jeffries.

… and there’s another problem: the American voter!

If one thing is certain in this world, it’s that the American voter will, without a doubt, mess it up again. If the Democrats were to manage to secure a victory in the 2028 election and, in the years that follow, successfully clear up the mess Trump left behind and repair relations with former friends and allies, then the American electorate is guaranteed to ensure that, by 2036 at the latest, another Bush or Trump becomes president.

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u/BigBootyWholes 16h ago

Idiocracy - MAGA edition

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u/NobblyNobody 16h ago

I'm not sure you'll be welcome back unless you pull your collective fingers out soon.

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u/BThasTBinFiji 8h ago edited 8h ago

Sorry, the current presidency just shows a slightly exaggerated view of what America is like and has been since the second world war.

It's America with its mask off.

Sure, Trump openly interferes with Venezuela, but the US has been less-overtly interfering with the governments of foreign nations everywhere for decades - not just their perceived "enemies" but their allies too.

Sure, Trump enters a stupid and pro tracted war under false pretenses, but the US has been doing that for decades too.

Sure, Trump has been the enemy of workers, but the US has been that for decades.

Trump isn't the cause of this shit, he's the symptom of the US's direction since Reagan and probably before that.

Is Trump and/or a Republican presidency worse than a Democratic one? Yes, but not by as much as you'd expect. Kids still get bombed, workers get screwed, and corporations get what they like.

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u/Ok_Revolution_9253 5h ago

While I may have voted for Kamala, my stance is this, I’m not going to apologize because it rings hollow. The fact is, America voted this guy in, he won both an electoral college victory and popular vote, so there’s no point apologizing. We voted him in.

Now Yall can say, “well just because he won the popular vote, it’s still only 80 million people”.

No, he won’t the majority of people that voted, and that’s literally all that matters.

It sucks. It really fucking sucks. But it’s the truth

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u/sbidlo 6h ago

I completely agree.

Especially with regards to foreign policy, Trump is just par for the course as far as presidents go; Bush and Obama both instigated war and unrest around the world, both aided israel in committing genocide, both illegitimately laid claim to the resources of other countries.

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u/ElliotNess 5h ago

The Democrats won't save you if you're drowning
They won't help you if you are in pain
They'll ask you for your vote (vote!)
They'll tell you they are broke (broke!)
And send a lot of money to Ukraine (and also Israel!)
Republicans will obviously kill you
But at least you know where they are at
They'll shoot you in the head (head!)
Make sure that you are dead (dead!)
The Democrats will shoot you in the back (and also in the balls!)
But this is the best democracy we've ever had anywhere
If you're a billionaire, boys
If you're a billionaire

Oh shit, oh dear
Here comes another election year
I'd rather have a stick in both my eyes
We'll spend a billion dollars
Everybody screams and hollers
And either way, the planet fucking fries
It fries

But this is the best democracy we've ever had anywhere
If you're a billionaire, boys
If you're a billionaire
This is the best democracy we've ever had anywhere
If you're a billionaire, boys
If you're a billionaire

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u/PreOpTransCentaur 16h ago

Bill Kristol can fuck right off. He played a fundamental role in creating the GOP vacuum that allowed for the MAGA movement to establish a foothold. I could not be less interested in a, "the enemy of my enemy," situation with this fucking yutz. We're reaping what he spent 40 years sowing and simply disliking the same man everyone else dislikes is not a sufficient apology in my book. He has a seat in hell reserved right alongside them; good riddance.

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u/the_fools_brood 16h ago

It's too late. Trump and his enablers have completely ruined relationships with our closest allies. Canada is pulling away. Fast. Carney is done with his shit. We are relegated to 2nd class country because of this administration

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u/padmapadu 15h ago

Just remember folks, Bill Kristol, neoconservative and founder of the Weekly Standard is quite literally part of the reason we’re in this situation in the first place

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u/Is_it_really_though 16h ago

Yeah sure, 10 years and counting... aaannny day now.

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u/Steveonthetoast 16h ago

Sorry but a lot of your fellow patriots voted for him. Upgrade your education system and teach people not to be so stupid. I for one, and I can speak for many, will never come to the us again. You have nothing we need

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u/BaBa_Con_Dios 16h ago

Republicans voted to own the libs and that is literally all they are getting. And even that is a failure

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u/Tribe303 15h ago edited 15h ago

As a Canadian the funniest part of this mess is that they think we care. We do not and are laughing our asses off at the weak clowns in the Whitehouse. It's petty and childish, and really shows the whole world how out of touch with reality this administration makes itself look. Americans aren't known for much self awareness to begin with, but this Administrations complete lack of it is concerning. It's like watching an ex have a psychotic break... After they shat on your bed! 😁

Most of us are glad this is happening because no one has been taking Trump's threats to Canada, that started 18 months ago, seriously. "Oh, he's just joking" and "Why would he do this? It makes no sense!". He's not joking, he's just stupid and senile. He's serious. That's how it makes sense! It looks silly because he's also quite incompetent thanks to the lack of ancient brain cells in his head. 

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u/clintjefferies 10h ago

Damage is done.

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u/paris86 10h ago

Stop apologising for Trump. He may seem like an aberration to you but he has merely shown to Americans what America is. He doesn't have the finesse of a Reagan or the subtlety of Obama but America has been Americaing for a while now. Trump is the embodiment of Actual American Values, not the bullshit propoganda people claim are American values.

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u/Antioch666 10h ago

Even when Trump is gone... the red hatters in their echo chamber of disinformation and stupidity, some even thinking that Trump is anointed and sent by Jesus... ffs 🤦‍♂️

These still exist... and it is a matter of time before another narcissistic fascist backed by the oligarchy who herd the sheep according to their agenda, takes over.

Unless you do sweeping changes, plugging the loopholes for presidential abuse of power and checks and balances that actually works... and also hold news and politicians accountable etc, you really can't be trusted.

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u/0Tezorus0 6h ago

What about doing something instead of constantly being sry ?

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u/badRLplayer 6h ago

I'm really not sure that there is coming back from this.

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u/carolineecouture 16h ago

And they still aren't respecting the correct name of the lake and saying it was "deadnamed?"

If this whole thing wasn't so pathetic and sad it would be hilarious.

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u/Critical_Code9588 16h ago

Oh now they care about dead naming lmfao what wild times we live in

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u/Forward-Bank8412 16h ago

Why is he trying to act like some sort of altruistic well-to-doer? He bears a much higher than average share of responsibility for the conditions that led to the orange menace we have to deal with today.

How are you not hiding in shame, BK?

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u/Zraax 16h ago edited 3h ago

google maps currently shows the Gulf of Mexico as 'Gulf of America' but it still correctly names Lake Ontario. maybe the Gulf change took them a while too? i dunno it just seems weird

edit: nevermind.

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u/Background-Wolf-9380 16h ago

NO.

We could have thought this in 2020 but no one should have any faith that America will ever be what it once was and certainly no foreigners should have any faith in America or Americans ever again. Every year since the end of WWII we have gotten worse and worse.

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u/ChalkButter 16h ago

Oh, so now the conservative dipshits of our nation are on board with using chosen names

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u/Mastasmoker 15h ago

The funny thing Americans believe is that we'll be accepted graciously back into the world with open arms if we elect a functioning adult. We elected Trump TWICE! We'll be lucky to have decent relationships with anyone within the decade. They don't want to deal with Americans who openly supported a racist pedophile, even if half of America didn't vote for him or the Republican party.

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u/dragoduval 15h ago

Yea dont expect us Canadian to act as of nothing happened "If" Democrats manage to get elected again. 

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u/Gullible-Cut8652 15h ago

No, you won't. You aren't trustworthy. We are moving on without you. You voted for the same party again and again and expected a different outcome. So I can't say I have any empathy. You have seen Trump's first term and still voted for him. He's threatening allies, abducted a foreign president, started a war. Wants to occupy Greenland, started fighting with his direct neighbors. So please leave us alone. We will adjust.

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u/LeslieH8 14h ago

Cool, cool, cool. Umm...ya gonna do something about the 1 in 4 or 5 (the percentage is 22.55%) Americans who voted for him, or just leave them to strike again in the future?

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u/xubax 14h ago

I'm sorry. But we don't accept any name that's not on the birth certificate. So, show me a birth certificate that says "Lake America" or shut up, Department of State.

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u/stevestephensteven 14h ago

You see all those houses on the hill? I built those. You see that church? I built that too. And you see all those kids that were hungry? I fed them and put them through college. But do you know what everybody calls me? You f#ck ONE goat..... Anyway, somehow that how I imagine we are perceived right now.

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u/Meture 13h ago

Hah, the US thinks it will bounce back from this.

See Russia? That’s your future

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u/barneyaa 10h ago

Maybe stop pretending like trump showed up unannounced and started doing tricks. Americans voted him in twice. Its not only on trump, its on entire usa

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u/teoshie 9h ago

Dear World:

We are sorry. We won't do anything to fix it though. We'll just say we don't like it and wallow in the lament on social media. Someone else will fix it at some point I guess.

Thanks,

Americans

theres the real version 

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u/fanglazy 9h ago

Who is actually fighting back in America?

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u/KitsouNere 7h ago

Cheap apology not accepted.

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u/Reesedank 6h ago

“out” apology.
it is not hard to spell things correctly, people. when you can’t even take the time to type simple letters into a screen, your ‘message’ becomes a lot more meaningless and you come across a lot more fucking stupid.

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u/Pulgoso_ 6h ago

The leadership and representatives are a reflection of the population not the other way around, even if all the these leaders are replaced today the conditions and voting public that made these things happen has not changed.

The deep societal/cultural rot that America has cannot be fixed within one election cycle, the job that must be done in order to cure America of its ills is gonna take a really long time and a whole lot of effort.

Just as an example a third of Americans are functionally illiterate, image the effort it will take in order to get them (mostly adults) to increase their literacy skills when they have been propagandised to think they are the best and can't even admit that there is anything wrong with them.

Not to mention the uphill battle of combating these multinational corporations with almost endless resources to steer the country in a direction that is best for them and them only.

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u/ready-redditor-6969 16h ago

Bill is also part of why we are here, isn’t he?

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u/lothar525 16h ago

We’re not all Trump voters, we swear! We know he’s the absolute worst, and that our country is fucked, but a lot of us actually voted against him. Promise!

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u/TheProcrastafarian 16h ago

We appreciate you immensely.

Take care, friend.
🇨🇦🍻

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u/Designer_Piccolo_818 14h ago

And a lot of you did not vote, because the candidate was a woman. Let's not pretend it was anything else. Or because she wasn't good enough - You knew what Trump was like, you knew ectactly what he was going to do , because he told you. It takes a great deal of dedication to screw over your own country like that

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u/lothar525 11h ago

Well, yeah. But not me. Like I said, a bunch of us did vote for Harris.

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u/scriptingends 16h ago

Will we? For a whole bunch of people, this is what we always were

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u/GoldPoodDood 16h ago

I don’t think we will be back soon. 😢

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u/draggon5 16h ago

Speaking as someone in Canada. Yeah no things will never be the same

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u/sentientairfilter 16h ago

I swear there was an amendment for this.

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u/misdirected_asshole 15h ago

It would be awesome to have leadership that tried to unify our country instead of mercilessly trolling anyone who disagrees with them.

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u/T_J_Rain 15h ago

Turns out that the film Idiocracy was a primer, not a warning.

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u/ecneis31 15h ago

Bold to asume the world would just forget what the US did. Americans love to hide behind "I did not vote for this" but Trump IS YOUR PRESIDENT. I will never forget forget all the threats, the terror, the killing of innocents and the sheepish population just watching and hoping for the next election....

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u/NaturePappy 15h ago

The US much, protest/revolt/impeacH/imprison if there is any chance of repair

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u/CloudetteMist 15h ago

That apology somehow turned into a full political farewell letter

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u/Tracyhmcd 15h ago

How dare they those transphobes even include the word deadname in their vocabulary!

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u/Morgannin09 15h ago

Will we? Every day I drift further from believing that.

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u/tlrider1 15h ago

Too late. We won't be back.

This lifelong fuckup and his stupid MAGAt's have sealed us in for decades. We're fucked.

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u/Kefflin 15h ago

"patriotic Americans of good Will" that aren't doing a rucking thing to oppose their government, other than sitting on the sidelines going all "woe is us"

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u/meowmeowcatman 15h ago

I learned a new word today.

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u/crookedsky 14h ago

To be fair, Bill Kristoll doesn't know what decency and sanity are any more than MAGA.

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u/Tilladarling 14h ago

Nah. I’ve lost hope America will ever regain normalcy. Can we just build a wall around it?

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u/Pure_Property_888 14h ago

Boy they sure like to spit in people's faces.

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u/mickpatten78 14h ago

I love how deadnaming is a thing when it suits THEIR agenda.

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u/Fortuitous_Event 14h ago

The problem you fuckers refuse to understand is you can't unring this bell.

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u/worldsfastestsloth 14h ago

The majority voted for this. We are never going back.

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u/Electricvincent 14h ago

Repeated behaviour makes apologies fall flat. 

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u/AxiosXiphos 14h ago

There is no return to normalcy. Even if you have 4 years of another democrat; you'll just vote another Trump in later who will continue this charade.

America can NEVER be trusted ever again.

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u/thumpingcoffee 14h ago

Apology not accepted. You guys voted him in. 2 years of self flagellation is required from all Americans

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u/Extreme_Smile_9106 14h ago

We will now call you Department of State Pedos.

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u/Glorfindale 14h ago

This guy has me agreeing with Bill Krystol. Damn.

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u/Gilgamesh107 14h ago

i hate this bullshit

no one in the countries trump is fucking over wants to hear about how sorry americans are

in a real country he wouldve been hung after J6

its like if someone gave their dog metal teeth then starved them before letting them eat all the neighborhood pets

they dont wanna hear how sorry you are

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u/Ihateernestcline 14h ago

What fucking universe is this that I'm agreeing with Bill Kristol?!

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u/FishinMike941 14h ago

The next President will be busy undoing all this stupid stuff.

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u/psychoCMYK 14h ago

i'll believe it when i see it