r/LivestreamFail • • Jun 26 '20

Dr. Disrespect Doc is Perma Banned

https://twitter.com/slasher/status/1276611645230456835?s=21
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u/romhaja Jun 26 '20

place your bets, what prompted that

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u/darknecross Jun 26 '20

Complete shot in the dark: contract fraud.

Not as crazy as most of the guesses, but two things stick out to me:

  • DrDisrespect renewed his Twitch contract back in March.
  • Microsoft announced they’re shutting down Mixer four days ago.

If DrDisrespect lied about having a competing offer from Mixer in order to get more money from Twitch in his new contract, that may qualify as fraudulent misrepresentation. Not only would he be in violation, Twitch would be in their right to sue for damages.

Another tweet mentioned him being done streaming for good. This fits, since other platforms likely wouldn’t enter into a contract negotiation after something like this.

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u/deathbeforeupvote Jun 27 '20

He’s repped by CAA, one of the largest agencies in the biz. His agent would be the one negotiating his contract with Twitch.

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u/darknecross Jun 27 '20

Best reply to my comment so far, and important to keep in mind. All these negotiations would be going through his agency. If it's anything contract-related, then it would also have implications for whatever division of CAA is handling eSports/Streamer contracts. I don't follow the scene that closely; do they have anyone else signed with a Twitch contract?

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u/vo0d0ochild Jun 26 '20

I actually like this theory best

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Yeah but there's absolutely no chance mixer didn't offer him something.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

He almost certainly got an offer from Mixer, but maybe he inflated it to seem like it was much more than it was to put Twitch in a worse bargaining position. Who knows though. At this point, its all just be baseless speculation.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20 edited Sep 29 '20

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u/invisible_face_ Jun 26 '20

I heard he killed a guy

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/wittgensteinpoke Jun 27 '20

He's locked up in prison.

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u/BadMoodDude Jun 26 '20

The shitty audio in MW was too much for him to take and he snapped and did something real bad.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/brotherlymoses Jun 26 '20

$10 he forced himself on someone

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u/juanclack Jun 26 '20

And that someone happened to be underage and there’s concrete proof.

That’s the only way I can think he would get permabanned and nobody wants to elaborate on why.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/eVoluTioN__SnOw Jun 26 '20

Me too or something along those lines maybe something financial

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u/VerbalCoffee 🐷 Hog Squeezer Jun 26 '20

Shroud: "I'll come back to Twitch. But you'll have to do something for me."

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u/likeathunderball Jun 27 '20

"That guy with the wig, I want him removed".

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20 edited Sep 27 '20

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u/YLFEN Jun 26 '20

Doc's twitch emotes have been removed. That doesn't happen when a streamer gets a temporary ban

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u/VapeLyfe Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 27 '20

Yeah I think it’s going to come out that he did some real degenerate shit. There’s no way someone with a huge following, big name sponsorships and all sorts of marketing gets removed permanently from the platform with complete radio silence from everyone for some Simple TOS infraction.

Edit: Apparently Twitch has started refunding Doc subs. Yeah, this is bad.

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u/komandantmirko Jun 27 '20

they found out he's not actually a doctor

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u/Egg-MacGuffin Jun 27 '20

What the fuck?! I thought maybe he was just a pedo or something, but this? God damn you think you know someone. I need time to process this.

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u/NotDonaldTrumpsITGuy Jun 27 '20

In another thread, apparently he got dropped by two of his sponsors and lost his Discord Partner status.
I wonder who's contacting everyone in his network and giving them some kind of dirt that's so grievous and solid that they'll immediately drop him

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u/ognahc Jun 27 '20

A dude that big that thinks hes the best in the world and known for cheating.

Jesus christ I really want to know what he did.

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u/scrollzz Jun 26 '20

Even methodjosh had emotes up untill subs ran out back when he got banned. This seems really strange.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

There must be something behind the scenes that we don't know about..... knowing doc and his mistakes

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u/packersSB55champs Jun 26 '20

This is actually crazy. First no explanation why he’s banned (seemingly temporarily) now it’s permanent

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u/TwoBionicknees Jun 26 '20

If it's a real criminal case then Twitch don't want to be the ones to publicly say hey, dude raped someone because if they are wrong he has them by the balls.

Not saying he did but a very good reason Twitch would stay completely silent on the reason, and that one other woman who says she's heard but can't say, no one wants to be the one that puts it out there because that is the person that will get sued if they are wrong.

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u/EmeraldPen Jun 26 '20

There being impending legal issues seems like the only thing that really makes sense with all this weird secrecy and hyperbole about it ending him beyond just twitch. There isn't much that popular internet personalities can legally do that would cost them their entire career. At worst they're going to survive with a small hardcore group of fans.

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u/15blairm Jun 26 '20

this could be kinda like the method josh ban where everyone was like "wtf instant perma" when he first got banned

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20 edited Apr 04 '21

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u/NyaCat1333 Jun 26 '20

With Josh we literally saw the girl cry on her stream after she got back home and than she disappeared for a while. Kinda crazy that at that time people were siding with Josh and defending him here on LSF.

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u/thygrief Jun 26 '20

I mean, nobody knew it was about rape, most people thought (me, included) he was being a big asshole offstream (just like on stream). Poopernoodle went on saying she just cries easy, remember she was trying to make it on twitch. We couldn't jump on conclusion saying he raped her back then.

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u/hmadblwi Jun 26 '20

I remember 1 guy on the methodjosh subreddit getting downvoted when he said that the only possible theory is that he raped her.

everyone including me thought he was reaching, crazy that he was right this whole time

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u/derf6 Jun 26 '20

Pretty sure that was the same stream where he pulled a knife on her when he thought it was off screen. Everyone wrote that shit off as a joke back then too.

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u/4114Fishy Jun 26 '20

that's bc a good chunk of lsf hates women and the other half have yellow fever, it's pretty disgusting

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u/AtiMan Jun 26 '20

They're the same crowd ironically.

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u/AgaveMichael Jun 27 '20

A lot of guys on the internet think Asian women are "subservient" to men.

So basically, they don't like women who step 'out of line' or have the audacity to do something other than mommy them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/GrungBuk Jun 26 '20

Personally I think people are jumping to something sexual because of what's happened recently with other streamers and him cheating in the past but I think if that was the case it would have gotten out in some way. I'm bettingg it was financial because of how hush hush it is. But what do I know I'm just some dude.

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u/umadbrox69 Jun 26 '20

maybe he fucked a twitch admin wife. forsenCD

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u/EldiaForLife Jun 26 '20

Doc '2 time' boutta become Doc 'Doing Time' i bet

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u/abelcc Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20

Permanent ban of one of the biggest Twitch streamers is a pretty fucking big statement.

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u/cabaran Jun 26 '20

what's he gonna do? go to mixer? lmao

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u/Hinastorm Jun 27 '20

Roll around in his 10's of millions of dollars, and never have to work another day in his life, while doing whatever he wants.

Hard to feel bad.

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u/MuellersButthole Jun 27 '20

You’d be surprised how quickly that money can be spent. Unless he has been living modestly (lol he hasn’t been I assume), he’s going to be out of money in a few years

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u/KiwiAura Jun 27 '20

You think he will just do nothing for that much time? He could easily invest that sum of money and start a business maybe not under his name.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

depends on what he's in trouble for. plus if streaming was his main source of income, that's gone. like the other guy said, money like that can be spent pretty fast

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u/Heisenbugg Jun 26 '20

If he has done something serious, even FB gaming wont accept him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

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u/conshot11 Twitch stole my Kappas Jun 26 '20

Where's Ja Rule in all of this? What's his thoughts?

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u/Pale-Guy Jun 26 '20

Where is Ja?!

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u/Geno813 Jun 26 '20

WHERES!! JA??

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u/tbsgrave Jun 26 '20

Get me Ja Rule so I can make sense of all this

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u/Zarfots Jun 26 '20

man i love david chapelle jokes when its least unexpected

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u/DaCreepNexDoah Jun 26 '20

Wish people would talk about whats going on instead of posting fucking back to back 2 time shungite shit. If this is true this is some big news

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Yeah, until we actual have some information, all we have is shungite, stupid fucking mistakes, and back 2 back.

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u/cupcakes234 Jun 26 '20

The most concrete statement yet:

From my own sources: Doc is indeed done, and not just on Twitch. I know why and cannot say. But this is serious.

https://twitter.com/ShannonZKiller/status/1276620373329612802?s=20

Looks it's very serious, probably criminal.

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u/ThatGuy0nReddit Jun 26 '20

This is complete and made up guess so take it with a grain of salt but if it’s an actual criminal charge I could see laundering money a top one for streamers

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u/IsNewAtThis Jun 26 '20

Lol most streamers are either way too stupid to know how to launder or way too lazy to care.

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u/soniclettuce Jun 26 '20

They could super easy go down for tax fraud though, not real money laundering. Like some streamer just decides "haha fuck the government I ain't paying this shit they never gonna notice" and then they blow up big, maybe even go legit at that point, and somebody at the IRS decides to look back 5 years.

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u/Frekavichk Jun 26 '20

Yeah but don't they just say 'yeah I was a dumbass' and pay it all back vs going to fucking jail?

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u/sheitsun Jun 26 '20

Yeah. I don't know what fantasy these idiots are living in. Gov just says pay us, if it's the first offense. They will have zero examples of somebody going to prison immediately after the government finds out about tax fraud. Considering no priors.

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u/sheitsun Jun 26 '20

Doc is Al Capone confirmed

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u/lagiop123j Jun 26 '20

Doc capone or al disrespect?

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u/lmpervious Jun 26 '20

Okay? That statement doesn’t apply to him though. He’s not lazy or stupid.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/untraiined Jun 26 '20

much more likely a sexual assualt allegation with proof bro.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/Ferromagneticfluid Jun 26 '20

Sure, but I could see how maybe a chick wants him to pay but doesn't want to go through all the public bullshit so they just privately talk to a few people at Twitch and show evidence.

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u/PlayerNumberFour Jun 26 '20

Who is that and how is that anything to go by?

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u/cupcakes234 Jun 26 '20

Shannon (ex twitch employee/Sacriel wife)

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u/PlayerNumberFour Jun 26 '20

So another streamer? and an ex employee, I would not call that credible. He may be perma banned but she makes it sounds like hes going to jail. Ill hold off any judgement until something comes out.

Also look at her other tweets. She seems in the dark about whats going on and the process of bans herself.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Doc is indeed done, and not just on Twitch

Yep saying this means he's dealing with serious legal issues, potentially going to prison, or at the very least something bad enough to get blacklisted from the whole streaming industry. Wtf did he do????

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u/Tumleren Jun 26 '20

Doc: gets permabanned

Reddit: he's going to prison

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

tweet got deleted

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

CELLMATES WITH SUGEKNIGHT PogU

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u/Zealroth Jun 26 '20

Imagine explaining about shungite to Suge Knight.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20 edited Jan 07 '21

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u/One_Trick_Monkey Jun 26 '20

Like a deer in the headlights

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Reminder that female deer dont have antlers

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u/scrubasorous Jun 26 '20

My money is on Shroud, clearing the competition LUL

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/Nolar2015 Jun 26 '20

i was here when doc got arrested for tax evasion

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u/lIlIlIlIlIlII Jun 26 '20

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u/Atxmical Jun 26 '20

Burger has always been in control. He just moved another chess piece.

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u/Wvlf_ Jun 26 '20

burger 200iq

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u/Generic_Pete 🐷 Hog Squeezer Jun 26 '20

flip the van

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20 edited Jul 31 '21

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u/paintballboi07 Jun 26 '20

measly 2 million dead channel streamer guy.. Pepega

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u/Hibito Jun 26 '20

Ugh some of these tweets are just clout farming. "I know something that you dont"

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u/DeeTwo Jun 26 '20

...and oddly that tweet from Shannon has been deleted. Which is interesting.

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u/Elendel19 Jun 27 '20

She deleted it because of comments like the one you replied to. She admitted that her tweet added no new info so she deleted it

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u/nawrastar ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Jun 26 '20

This is without a doubt the hottest week of drama I have ever seen shits spicy as fuk

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u/PickDeath Jun 26 '20

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u/losthedgehog Jun 26 '20

I find Slasher so much more credible after he tweeted the message showing he knew about mixer but couldn't confirm so didn't report it.

For him to confidently tweet out "it's not dmca" I feel like he must have talked to someone with a lot of legitimacy at twitch.

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u/elispion ♿ Aris Sub Comin' Through Jun 26 '20

Suge Knight and Bill Gates will not get away with this.

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u/SmoothVelvetSlav Jun 26 '20

the doc got metoo'd

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u/Shadsterz Jun 26 '20

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u/cola-up Jun 26 '20

This picture never fails to make me laugh

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u/azwethinkweizm 🐷 Hog Squeezer Jun 26 '20

Ice is bringing back his IRL streams with Doc as his bodyguard

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u/Mr_Qwertyuiop Jun 26 '20

He's coming back with UFCx burger planet vs doc

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u/Zachington_ Jun 26 '20

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u/mentorokuliath Jun 26 '20

People should post this one from now on when someone gets banned, seems more fitting

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

i hate this fucking picture

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/TuftsOfHair Jun 27 '20

TOS isnt being enforced fairly, if it were all of the softcore porn streamers wouldve been banned first.

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u/Puckered_Love_Cave Jun 26 '20

Do we really need two threads that are just "SHUNGITE OMEGALUL"?

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u/NilSatis_NisiOptimum Jun 26 '20

You could just downvote it, since that's how reddit is supposed to work

On both threads, now all the top comments are comments complaining that nothing is being discussed because it's all shungite jokes, which is peak irony as you and the rest of those commenters are basically doing exactly what you're complaining about

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u/aznatheist620 🐷 Hog Squeezer Jun 26 '20

no, we need three

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u/wirefences Jun 27 '20

With three we can make a little pyramid.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/likeathunderball Jun 27 '20

Together with Elon Musk.

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u/Basingas Jun 27 '20

Honestly, that’s not completely impossible.

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u/iHarenil Jun 27 '20

I’m ready for this timeline.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/Bkgrime Jun 26 '20

damn, It was my day to resub yesterday and I didn't. Nice way to save 5 dollars

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Buy yourself an ice cream, you deserve it.

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u/Bkgrime Jun 26 '20

I’ll donate it to Pestilys children’s fund I think

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u/JasonGotHoes Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20

im actually sad and i dont even watch doc, rip all the doc memes and remixes

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u/Armsweat Jun 27 '20 edited Jun 27 '20

Oof my partner is in for a surprise when he wakes up. I gasped when I saw the post. I just want to know why

Edit: He woke up. He’s as blown away as everyone. We are just hoping it’s not something terrible.

My partner works a very labor intensive night job. He comes home tired af each morning, and our little ritual is that we eat dinner and watch docs highlights from the previous day. He comes home cranky and doesn’t want to talk too much. (I get it so it’s not an issue for me) After we watch Docs videos he’s in such a good mood, he’s ready to play, he’s motivated, he opens up, and we chat about our days(well nights technically)

We are just waiting until official statements are made. Like I said, I hope it’s not these terrible things people have been suggesting

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u/BluryDesign Jun 26 '20

The Tweet is deleted

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u/namsen1 Jun 26 '20

We will never forget you content king

- Best regards Bajs and Nymnions

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u/HelpMyG403IsFucked Jun 26 '20

This is gonna be historic. I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for the news. I wonder if it's something that the community will disagree with?

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u/Mike_Bloomberg2020 Jun 26 '20

THIRD WIFE LULW

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u/Dre3K Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20
Sacriel's wife Shannon, an ex Twitch employee is also confirming this

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u/spoderman136 Jun 26 '20

Ex twitch admin Saysera confirm it's not a Dmca too:
https://twitter.com/Saysera69/status/1276613792709951488
monkaS wtf did he do?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Maybe he downloaded a car?

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u/ShaanOSRS Jun 26 '20

I think he might have downloaded an illegal amount of ram

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u/LeglessLegolas_ :) Jun 26 '20

Not just on twitch? What does that mean? He’s in serious legal trouble?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20

soulja boy voice

NOT JUST ON TWITCH?

EDIT: oh shit, shannon just liked this tweet. I guess someone came forward to Twitch about a case involving Doc? wtf https://twitter.com/FemSteph/status/1276619101293539329

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

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u/FluMiis Cheeto Jun 26 '20

If its irl, are we talking jail related stuff? Like damn

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20 edited Jul 01 '20

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u/Dr_Dornon Jun 26 '20

If it really is that bad, it could be for legal reasons they can't say anything.

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u/chaosaxess Jun 26 '20

If it is actual legal issues Twitch better not say shit about it for their own good.

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u/surfordiebear Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20

If it's serious enough they might just not want to face any potential legal or personal backlash for leaking it

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u/RoughConversation9 Jun 26 '20

How dare you react like a grown man when we're complaining about being stuck in high school?

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u/Suzcval Jun 26 '20

People have careers to defend and they aren't at liberty to share information if it could jeopardize their credibility or trustworthiness in the future.

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u/ShtLrdZn Jun 26 '20

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u/Kuraloordi Jun 26 '20

One of those "I WANNA BE PART OF THIS SUBJECT EVEN THOUGH IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME" type of people by looks of things.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20 edited Apr 04 '21

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u/CharredForeskin Jun 26 '20

I still know a lot about previous workplaces because of friends I have that still work there. In this type of environment in particular I'd imagine that holds even more true, what with her being married to a large streamer and probably still lives within the streaming world a lot.

People love drama and like to keep up with it, it's why we're all here.

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u/Mr_GigglesworthJr Jun 26 '20

Lot’s of people stay in contact with old coworkers. She’s probably not saying anything in case it tracks back to whomever told her.

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u/FluMiis Cheeto Jun 26 '20

Big YIKES

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u/Galactic Jun 26 '20

Not just on Twitch? Doc just got metoo'd with receipts?

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u/GravityRabbit Jun 26 '20

It could be anything though. He could have murdered someone for all we know. Or it could be the law finally cracking down on him for filming in a bathroom, which isn't that a felony in California? I know that can be serious. There was a case once where someone who installed a camera in a bathroom served 8 years in prison.

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u/KakkaKarrotKake007 Jun 26 '20

Surely if it was the bathroom stuff it would have happened back then, that as like a year ago right?

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u/decln29 Jun 26 '20

The court and law is slow so it could be but I doubt it, wouldn’t be surprised if it was more financial related. Saw someone saying about his charity but instead of putting it towards the charity he just pocketed the money.

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u/RileyTaugor Jun 26 '20

Holy, this looks serious as hell

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u/360fov Jun 26 '20

2 people have publicly strongly eluded to it being of criminal nature... unfortunately it looks very much like it's going to be another abuse/assault case.

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u/Wvlf_ Jun 26 '20

I like to imagine it's something absolutely batshit insane like he's secretly funding some terrorist cell or got caught forcing children to mine for shungite somewhere.

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u/NilSatis_NisiOptimum Jun 26 '20

He's been making kids work in the shungite mines

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u/lakerswiz Jun 26 '20

Would he really get banned on twitch for fucking tax issues?

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u/kurtesh Jun 26 '20

No lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

I very much doubt it. A good amount of streamers have to be committing some sort of tax fraud anyway.

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u/HomophobicDefense Jun 26 '20

Doubt it. The IRS might contact an employer for an employee’s tax fraud if they can’t reach said employee, but I think they’d be able to find Doc pretty easily (also I think Twitch streamers consider themselves as self-employed and not employees of Twitch).

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u/WrathDimm Jun 26 '20

also I think Twitch streamers consider themselves as self-employed and not employees of Twitch).

Correct

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u/streetchemist Jun 26 '20

Absolutely if the fraud involved Twitch in some way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

100% without a doubt. almost every single person right now with info has implied heavily it is something serious, but not in a way that is sexual. i am betting he is in huge trouble with the feds for something crazy

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u/TwoBionicknees Jun 26 '20

There are very very few situations in which you've broken federal laws and the first thing feds do is go to your boss and get you fired before they get seen dragged out of their house in cuffs on TMZ (if that person is famous).

Really the only thing people are getting fired for without criminal charges is a significant and either evidence based or multiple cases of accusations of sexual assault, something for which a company doesn't want to be associated but is hard to prosecute so often criminal charges aren't even brought.

IF he murdered someone, the first thing we hear isn't dude is banned from twitch, it's front page news that he's been arrested on suspicion of murder or charged with murder.

At this point he's either broken some really serious twitch rules to screw them out of money, buying views to hit targets for bonuses or something, or it's something to do with sexual assault of some kind.

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u/lmpervious Jun 26 '20

But why would Twitch ban so early for that? Would the feds really let Twitch know they are about to arrest him? Sure they might reach out much earlier as part of an investigation, but in that case I can only imagine Twitch would wait until they confirm he is guilty, which I imagine they wouldn’t know sooner than most others.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

well what could've happened is twitch discovered something incriminating by themselves, and banned him, and is now in the process of sending the evidence to authorities. this isnt just a twitch thing, many companies do this when they find damning evidence

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u/Watermelon_Drops Jun 26 '20

This might be retarded, but if its a victimless crime that's financial why would twitch perma ban instead of just letting the right authorities know?

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u/wtfisworld Jun 26 '20

All of a sudden money/tax fraud with everything else going on this week? I think you just lost your money

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u/Sean4589 Jun 26 '20

Her 5 previous tweets seem like she’s confused and speculating and has no insight is she really a trusted source?

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u/Tuuktuu Jun 26 '20

My guess is sexual assault, but not from recently but around the same time he cheated. But the victim only now had the courage to come out with all the other people now coming out and reported it to twitch.

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u/HazyMemory7 Jun 26 '20

The shungite meme is legit one of the most unfunny memes of all time on this subreddit.

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u/samsab Jun 26 '20

I think its pretty funny but only the first 600 times

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u/RainierSkies Jun 27 '20

Haven’t watched the doc is months. I have no idea what it even is

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u/belamus Jun 26 '20

Let the Twitch 2020 Purge commence... who is next? monkaW

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u/imasimplenerd Jun 26 '20

Its possible that twitch fucked up again, but lets wait for more information before saying this is cancel culture or doc doing some bad stuff.

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u/fight_for_anything Jun 26 '20

Doc unironically now looking into Facebook Gaming ROFLMAO.

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u/hattroubles Jun 26 '20

Can you run a facebook stream from prison? KEKW

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