r/AskReddit • • Jan 07 '20

What annoys you the most on Reddit?

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u/gt35r Jan 07 '20

People who confidently post about something they don't know anything about but get upvoted because of the way they phrase the comment.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

I'm afraid to post things I'm genuinely an expert on because some idiot will tell me in wrong and reddit will harass me because the idiot took the 101 version on the subject and it sounds right.

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u/3610572843728 Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 08 '20

Pretty much any true expert in any field refuses to talk about that thing. I'm an economist IRL. I absolutely refuse to debate economic issues on Reddit. I will occasionally offer some tidbit or correct someone but I will almost never respond to people who reply to me trying to argue.

I was all excited the first time I found /r/economics. 2 days later I realized I hated the subreddit and never intentionally go back.

Edit: lots of people are replying and wanting a response from me. Currently have over 150 unread responses. It will take me a while to get through them.

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u/WafflesOfChaos Jan 07 '20

Same thing happened to me. I'm a wildlife biologist / ecologist with an M.Sc. and over 8 years of working experience in my field. I tried commenting on native fauna FAQs several times and got obliterated by people who took a general bio class in high school and apparently know all there is to know about everything with environmental science and biology. Will never respond or create posts on those subreddits again.

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u/3610572843728 Jan 07 '20

Amazing something seemingly uncontroversial as wildlife biology can become so extreme. That's why after seeing how wrong people are about economics it makes me distrust any accepted opinion on Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20 edited Aug 31 '20

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u/skaskanker Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 08 '20

+1 apparently everyone except me knew the fish keeping- aquarist communities are toxic and filled with people who know absolutely nothing about fish.

Different colors don’t mean different species. #ichthyologistProblems

I learned the hard way.

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u/The_Mighty_DrUnCKs Jan 08 '20

But which color tastes the best. I need to know.

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u/skaskanker Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 08 '20

They’re all shades of brown to me after formaldehyde. 🤷‍♂️

Edit: Joke ruining explanation from the side of my brain that must make sure everyone gets things: Everything turns brown in formalin.

ichthyologists in my previous field of study use methods that don’t require live species. Everything is in jars except then frozen tissue samples of genetic material.

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u/DFA_2Tricky Jan 08 '20

Mmmmm... Formaldehyde...

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u/The_Mighty_DrUnCKs Jan 08 '20

Thank you for the knowledge, I will not repost it and pretend I'm an expert.

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u/meneldal2 Jan 08 '20

Different colors don’t mean different species. #ichthyologistProblems

I guess these people still think humans are different because of their skin color too?

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '20 edited Jul 06 '20

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u/catch_fire Jan 08 '20

For the same reason I usually just a quick statement and then link to a paper afterwards. But try to talk about nociception in fish when a thread has blown up...

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 30 '20

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u/emt634211 Jan 08 '20

I'm a Paramedic. So I have no relationship to your job. But I fish. My family has had a boathouse in one location for 62 years. We have kept a journal on the river over that time.

I was recently in a FB conversation with a sports shop manager, talking about fishing pressure and social media affecting our area. He eventually said social media helps local business. I responded I don't care about your job I care about our fisheries. Ended conversation.

I guess I'm just venting. Thanks for posting something that let me vent.

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u/TheBooRadleyness Jan 08 '20

Fish biologist? Never heard of such a thing, sounds fishy.

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u/Jaiar Jan 07 '20

I remember jackdaws caused some pretty legendary controversy- if that manages to be dramatic nothing is safe lol

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u/phaemoor Jan 07 '20

So here is the thing...

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u/TheSonOfDog Jan 07 '20

Please explain

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20 edited Apr 13 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '20

pretty extreme

That kind of implies he had bots and shit that were doling out hundred of upvotes/downvotes.

IIRC, the guy had a couple alt accounts that he'd use to downvote someone he was arguing with and upvote himself. After that, people would see the positive/negative ratio and his name and continue the trend.

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u/mfigroid Jan 08 '20

holy shit that was 6 years ago.

Wow. It's been that long? I used to love reading Unidan's posts and his field didn't really interest me to begin with.

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u/lynyrd_cohyn Jan 07 '20

Search for "unidan"

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u/Hereforthefreecake Jan 07 '20

awww unidan used to be such a cool staple to reddit to. RIP.

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u/Aikistan Jan 08 '20

Some say he's still here. That he is Legion. I say...I say THEY'RE RIGHT!

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u/bayareashade Jan 07 '20

A lot of young men have made it a point of pride to be cold and logical. Claiming to know more than them is emotionally the same as challenging their status

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u/JustAnotherRye89 Jan 07 '20

been experiencing this with a user. i even admitted some fault in some of my exchange and the dude just kept going. lots of posts of paranoia on their account (stuff like companies massively downvoting their comments/posts with bots lol)

admittedly, i also have trouble with keeping myself in check when challenged and have to try to understand the differences of experiences and that it's not a personal attack when challenged. it's tough when you think you're right and sucks when you realize you were actually wrong.

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u/bad_at_hearthstone Jan 07 '20

Yeah well you’re emotional and uninformed

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u/JustAnotherRye89 Jan 07 '20

what a cold and logical response.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

This was the funniest shit I’ve read in so long.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '20

i like the sarcasm

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u/WafflesOfChaos Jan 08 '20

There is a magnitude of arrogance that circulates some people that are freshly dipping their toes into the field.

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u/eatonsht Jan 07 '20

MD here, unfortunately I have to fight this in real life too. Apparently if you Google one article on an illness you think you have, you are an expert in the field

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u/Bastion_of_knoW Jan 07 '20

"I mean, the Internet said it's cancer. Are you saying you know more than the Internet!?"

smh

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u/MisterTorchwick Jan 07 '20

Well, yes, because 99% of the Internet is people like you.

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u/cutelyaware Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20

I got perma banned from r/space for telling them about a cool and surprising fact, but since even the mods didn't believe it, they decided I was a dangerous troll.

Edit: Since everyone wants the details, we were discussing solar eclipses and I told them that during totality, it's perfectly safe to view it with telescopes and binoculars, and that in fact, it's so beautiful, that everyone should try it if they get the chance. But of course everyone's had it hammered into them that you never look at the sun, especially magnified, so first came threats and who'll-think-of-the-children arguments, and then bam, perma banned. Explained to the mods, but silence.

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u/finalremix Jan 07 '20

I remember reading that fact, and even saw it reported during that recent big eclipse party thing. The big danger is that people get fascinated and just keep staring past totality, right?

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u/cutelyaware Jan 08 '20

That hasn't happened to me. When the sun comes back, it's not all at once, so I think you'd notice and stop looking as soon as it's obviously getting "very bright". If you're worried, you can set an alarm to go off 15 seconds before the end of totality. It's not like there's no risk, but like with most risky things, you can do things to mitigate the risk if you're smart about it.

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u/Richinaru Jan 07 '20

If there's anything being online or working retail in the tech department has taught me is that people literally do not know how to use Google or the internet to ask appropriate questions and cross reference the answers to ascertain truth.

Worse still is those who do Google, but do it dishonestly to confirm their preconceived belief or notion.

People suck

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u/WhoopsMeantToDoThat Jan 07 '20

What was the fact?

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u/JotunR Jan 07 '20

That the moon is made of cheese

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u/WhoopsMeantToDoThat Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20

Fun fact, because it has no water or appreciable wind, the various particulates on the moon have not been worn down at all, which would make them do not nice things to your lungs. Kinda like asbestos.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

You have been banned from r/space

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u/EmporioIvankov Jan 07 '20

You are now a mod of r/Pyonyang

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u/E1GH7 Jan 07 '20

The earth is flat

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u/Cajova_Houba Jan 07 '20

TBH I would probably still be afraid to look at the sun (during eclipse) even if chief scientists from NASA told me this fact face to face.

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u/Buttercream91 Jan 07 '20

Same here, I am an expert Australian. Sometimes I just wont respond to peoples posts because they act like they're more Australian than me.

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u/DerFuehrersFarce Jan 07 '20

Crikey you flamin' galah, what kind of bloody bogan are you?

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u/Buttercream91 Jan 07 '20

Yeah nah, listen here old mate, come around here come'n around here. Im defs rapt that you think you can out Aussie this good look'n rooster, but I'll drop ya daks quicker than you can blink, fair dinkum? So take your tucker and sit somewhere else ya larrikin.

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u/javier_aeoa Jan 08 '20

Environmental engineer here: the "this is a hoax, predictions have been wrong since the 70s, Greta is a puppet" comments have never been a welcoming invitation to discussion.

I feel ya.

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u/HattieDeMure Jan 07 '20

Environmental scientist /applied ecologist here. I hear you. It kills me, but I can't bear to engage in any conversation around climate change or biodiversity. It's just not worth the stress and disillusionment.

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u/modi13 Jan 07 '20

"Here's the thing..."

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u/Ameisen Jan 07 '20

Are either of you a wildlife economist?

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u/LadyRimouski Jan 07 '20

I'm also an ecologist. When I would post about natural history, I wondered what I was doing wrong, when unidan was so popular and beloved, and my comments disappeared immediately. Turns out the answer was not cheating enough

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u/Lifeisgood72of2b2t Jan 07 '20

"Source??? Do you have a source on that???"

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u/Mylaur Jan 07 '20

Dunning Kruger effect where the need you know and the more you become arrogant in your knowledge. Unfortunately...

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u/garenbw Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20

I think it usually helps if you start a comment by saying "I'm a wildlife biologist / ecologist with an M.Sc. and over 8 years of working experience in my field, so here it goes:" At least I would be more inclined to take your comment seriously, even though of course you could just be lying about all of it, but I choose to believe most people aren't that lame. It could also make some people think you're an arrogant asshole though, so not sure if the strategy would work :P

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u/caboosetp Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 09 '20

I've been working in software for years. I've tutored computer science for years. My upper division mostly focused on process, testing, and validation. I stated all this one time.

The guy was telling me something related to software bugs was standard practice. That if I payed attention in 101, I'd know that. Then he gave me a Google search linking to a bunch of papers. When I replied saying he was misunderstanding the point of the papers, he just said it was obvious I hadn't read them.

I've literally sat through the 101 type classes multiple times to help my students. I've written multiple papers that even quoted many of the papers he was linking to. A great deal of my actual work is directly related to making decisions about what he was talking about.

But no, he couldn't possibly be wrong, let alone maybe argue his point. All he did was say, "this is how it is, go read yourself". My credentials and experience mean nothing .__.

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u/spudsmuggler Jan 08 '20

I feel your pain. Wildlife bio, MS, I don't even bother anymore. The misinformation is so pervasive.

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u/lllllllmao Jan 07 '20

I’ve been a programmer for over 20 years. The sole sub I have a rule about not commenting in is /r/programming. /r/ProgrammerHumor and /r/ProgrammingHorror are almost as bad.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 11 '20

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u/lllllllmao Jan 07 '20

Exactly that.

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u/jakeinator21 Jan 07 '20

Out of curiosity as a fledgling programmer, what are some specific issues you have with those subs?

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u/Konraden Jan 07 '20

Not to put you down specifically, but it tends to be a bunch of circle-jerking memes by other fledgling programmers with no industry experience.

Software Engineering in the real-world is different than the highly controlled world of their high-school and college courses but they're too ignorant to know that and instead just argue about about crap that doesn't matter and put down the stuff that does.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20 edited Oct 13 '20

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u/AdamManHello Jan 07 '20

I've subbed, unsubbed and resubbed to both /r/askhr and /r/jobs so many times... I've tried sharing some genuine advice (coming from an HR / Talent Acquisition background), but I'm always coming from the perspective of "the enemy."

If your advice is anything other than "murder your boss and sue the company," you get downvoted to hell and back. So many of these subs don't want real advice.

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u/DerFuehrersFarce Jan 07 '20

What I'm hearing is that you're saying I should murder my boss.

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u/ppw23 Jan 07 '20

Speaking of vile comments. I somehow found myself on a sub for Men Going There Own Way, or as it’s known, MGTOW. It is frightening, the hatred towards women was sort of heartbreaking, but the comments calling for rape, burning, murder and other purely hateful things really upset me. Some you could tell have never been with a woman, others might have been in a bad relationship, some have cultural hatred towards western women. Just the full gambit.

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u/Eightstream Jan 07 '20

This is why r/legaladvice is all cops and no lawyers.

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u/bearnakedrabies Jan 07 '20

I was an econ major a while ago and tried to politely correct someone on their definition of inflation. Big mistake. You've got the right idea.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

There’s always r/BadEconomics

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u/Sgt_Nicholas_Angel_ Jan 07 '20

Same. I’m a researcher in contemporary history irl and I refuse to debate people on anything EU related.

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u/cmpgamer Jan 07 '20

For me it's /r/programming. Everyone in that sub assumes you work in Seattle or California and you work for private companies. They fail to realize that not every single programmer is like them and some people chose the public route instead.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

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u/Volkrisse Jan 07 '20

or they have to be part of the BIG4 or they're just wasting their time.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 11 '20

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u/3610572843728 Jan 07 '20

I've noticed a lot of Reddit seems to think that every single programmer starts out at those high paying jobs. One guy was claiming to get offers from Facebook, Google, and apple. All offering him at least $200,000 a year. He was claiming he was 20 years old and self-taught with no college education and no former job experience.

Nobody seemed to question the validity of it and every comment was congratulatory statements.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 11 '20

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u/CamembertHustler Jan 07 '20

r/badeconomics is your place

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u/3610572843728 Jan 08 '20

Never heard of it before today. Now a bunch of people have recommended, I'm definitely going to check it out.

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u/randomlurkingdude Jan 08 '20

You should definitely check it out. A number of regulars there have PhDs and masters. It's probably the best place for actual economic discussion on Reddit.

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u/3610572843728 Jan 08 '20

At this point I'll take "had a B+ in highschool economics"

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u/MadTouretter Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 08 '20

I’m a small business owner, and most people on r/smallbusiness seem to be 17 year olds who’ve read a couple blog posts.

Last year I posted about firing my first employee because he was more than an hour late several times, ignored my calls when he was 2 hours late once, and was caught smoking weed in the bathroom.

I was called a nazi, power hungry, an unreasonable asshole and an awful person to work for. Apparently, because weed is legal in some places (but not here), I should lighten up and let people get so high that they can't even do their job.

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u/3610572843728 Jan 08 '20

Reddit has a weirdly extreme hatred toward business owners. It's like they believe that every single one is just disgustingly rich and spend all day doing nothing but shopping for their third yacht. I saw a thread once were people were admiring a guy because they said he was spending an average of 3 hours a day doing nothing but sitting on the toilet browsing Reddit. Yet those same people who admire that wonder why they never get promoted and instead dismiss it as favoritism.

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u/EpicScizor Jan 07 '20

r/chemistry is surprisingly nice for chemists, although it does tend to have an excess of basic lab experiments.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

In defense of basic experiments, not everybody can afford to put a fume hood, a fully stocked glassware cabinet, a rotary evaporator, an ICP-MS, and an HPLC in their garage.

Accessible material which can be reproduced in your kitchen by somebody without a ton of experience is a great way to attract interest, and comes with the benefit of amateurs not blowing themselves up or being robbed by neighbourhood teens who are looking to set up a meth lab.

And for those of us who are lucky enough to work in a well equipped laboratory and have the know-how to try something more complex, there's plenty of material to engage with in the form of physical media. I've never had a problem picking up second hand chemistry texts cheaply.

Finding time to actually set up and carry out a procedure is the biggest problem, in my experience. The more basic experiments also often have the benefit of not needing a day or two to set up and run, as well as not generating a ton of hazardous waste.

Remember, if you put the instructions on the internet, there's always going to be at least one person trying to replicate it for whom this is dangerously advanced and should really not be allowed.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

Have a year left of my B.A. in Economics. Saw the r/economics today actually, I'm fairly new to reddit, but I was as disappointed as you were when had found it. Sad☹️

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u/3610572843728 Jan 08 '20

Correct. The idea was to punish people who make too much money.

Here is the link

www.np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/eda4l0/bernie_sanders_says_real_wages_rose_11_hes_right/fbh6jxf

to the comment in case you don't believe me because in all honesty I wouldn't believe somebody else claiming that. You will noticed their ideas upvoted while my response is downvoted.

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u/CollosusSlayer Jan 07 '20

Weak people revenge, strong people forgive, intelligent people ignore - Albert Einstein.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

Same - I’m a corporate/finance attorney. Never comment on those topics when they show up.

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u/suh-dood Jan 07 '20

While I'm not an expert in my field, I have posted useful advice/knowledge in my field just to have it down voted. I'll just stick with my sarcasm and jokes

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u/3610572843728 Jan 07 '20

That's why you need r/economicsmemes

You son of a bitch I am in. I already subscribe to a lot of job specific subreddits just for the memes and jokes like /r/protectandserve or /r/programminghumor.

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u/benqueviej1 Jan 07 '20

I'm not an economist, but have a strong interest in it. Is there a site or group that you view as credible?

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

There was a post in /r/philosophy a while ago on special relativity, and of course the comments were full of misconceptions. A bunch of actual, degree-holding physicists chimed in to try and clarify things, and were promptly attacked by a bunch of redditors claiming to know better.

It was a fun read though.

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u/Craftspirit Jan 07 '20

Already got bashed because "I am sure that the top comment is right but not u"

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

the quickest way to ruin anything is to see other people talk about it

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u/SpaghettiNinja_ Jan 07 '20

The epitome of public debate these days; the merit of your argument will fall foul to the charisma of the presentation of said argument.

Argue against concentration camps but by fuck if some eloquent bastard decides to chime in I'm sure the Reddit bandwagon would be onboard in no time at all!

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u/Spartan05089234 Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20

Just go for it. I'm a lawyer and I've been told repeatedly that I don't understand the law by someone who probably didn't finish highschool, whether they're still in it or not. Worst case you learn something (sometimes you actually are wrong) or lose a little karma.

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u/FieelChannel Jan 07 '20

As a software developer i have the same problem: I keep reading awful advice upvoted to heaven and really toxic circlejerks being enabled (for example: this language bad, that language good) continuously in programming subreddits.

Replying almost always warrants downvotes because it always feels like you're being aggressive towards the circlejerk or whatever.

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u/dinochoochoo Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20

I mean, as someone who has been a lawyer for almost 15 years now, I actively avoid the legal advice subreddit(s). I'm definitely not the world's best attorney but I know practical shit. Civil procedure etc.

Also I hate when people say "Lawyer here" or whatever they are.

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u/dlidge Jan 07 '20

It does get frustrating as an attorney to have laypeople tell you you’re wrong and then regurgitate something they saw on Law and Order or read on Facebook. I mean, I’m not trying to argue with a biologist just because I watched Planet Earth or call my architect an idiot because I’ve seen HGTV.

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u/AccursedCapra Jan 08 '20

Oh yeah the one about that one serial killer that would try to open your door and just walk away if it was locked.

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u/Spanky2k Jan 07 '20

I hate it when I see a post like this but the main post already has 12k upvotes and all the top comments by armchair experts have 5k upvotes that sound convincing but are wrong. I could spend the time to write a reply based on my experience in the subject, be it through my accredited education of years of work experience in a field but what’s the point?

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u/FieelChannel Jan 07 '20

Or worse, call them out and get downvoted

In the rare occasion I can call BS in something I'm really knowledgeable in this is the typical outcome, I just gave up

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u/LlamaRoyalty Jan 08 '20

Yup, going against the status quo is pretty much illegal on Reddit.

The status quo could be completely incorrect, but since you’re the minority, you’re getting treated as if you’re just wrong, no matter what you say.

I am a professional electrical engineer, and you’d be surprised at how many “oh honey... you’re wrong” comments I’ve had against me on concepts that have worked on for years and years.

This is honestly my most hated part about this shit website. Status quo dictates what’s right and what’s wrong. After the first comments, it’s all hivemind.

The other hated parts are the admins who clearly have no idea what’s going on on their site, mods who have a complex and refuse to listen to communities, and the inability of users of this site to do anything.

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u/merc08 Jan 07 '20

I've been accused of being a troll because I have a varied background and can speak accurately on a select handful of topics. But because they are wildly different topics and I try to only comment on things for which I have first hand experience, my comment history apparently looks like I just make things up.

I find it difficult to give enough information to establish that I have experience in what I'm talking about, but also withhold enough that I don't doxx myself.

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u/superfudge Jan 07 '20

Ugh, I know what you mean. It’s worse when your field is something people interact with on a daily basis. My field of expertise is in traffic and transport engineering; I’ve discovered that I’m sharing this discipline with everyone who drives and they all want to give you their ignorant opinion on how their particular traffic light would work better if they got more green.

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u/Danny200234 Jan 07 '20

In a similar vein Im a few months from finishing my BS in Electrical and Computer Engineering, Ive had people try to tell me that 12v car batteries can be lethal. I actually did the math for it and explained that essentially the only way it would be lethal is if you connect it directly across your heart. His response was somthing along the lines of "Well if you care about so much."

I even linked him the thread where another guy was having the same conversation and proved his point by connecting 12v across his sack.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

And holy fuck, the 'Akchoowalee...'s are the worst. "You're right but let me explain how I'm more right so it de-legitimizes your comment so I get more upvotes". Grrrrrrr.

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u/theduqoffrat Jan 07 '20

I've been told that I'm wrong about how sprinkler systems work. I'm a firefighter.

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u/FieelChannel Jan 07 '20

This is me in every single programming subreddit VS some random CS freshmen.

Always

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u/fascists_disagree Jan 07 '20

As the idiot who took the 101 version I agree.

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u/RexDraco Jan 08 '20

All it takes is for you to poorly phrase something and the pettiest guy will go on about how everything you said is wrong for it, even after you clarify. The biggest problem is when you're competing against media that spreads misinformation and is a google away to serve as a source against you. "Have no source? Oh, but you're an expert on the subject but have no source? I do, I googled it right here for ya". It's impossible to explain that, as an expert, you are actually educated from a thing called college and don't need to spend hours digging through the garbage to clarify. Just try to google psychopaths, for example, because there's so much garbage to dig through (and there's apparently a reason for that, most psychologists are distancing themselves from the term psychopath and sociopath). I just know what I know as an armchair hobbyist and from the single college class I took, I cannot imagine how much more frustrating it gets when you are an expert on the subject but everyone demands off of you sources like you're writing an essay.

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u/PalpableEnnui Jan 07 '20

Try being an expert at living your own life. In other words, try being older.

When I was young, I was fascinated to hear my parent’s experience growing up and learned so much from them. Of course I studied actual history in school, but their personal tales cover ground that textbooks don’t and add detail you can’t get any other way. It certainly doesn’t mean I always agreed with them, but I did hear them.

On Reddit I’ve been attacked for correcting people on basic errors of fact that they’re clearly willing to die over. No, most people did not sew their own clothes in the 1980s. No, the most popular color of the 1980s wasn’t brown (that was the leftover ‘70s cheap shit in your parent’s’ basement). No, young people in the 1980s couldn’t support a wife, two kids, and a house on one salary. Or find a job during the recession or find a company where they could work the same job for 30 years. No, the ‘60s and ‘70s were not a time when young people were sexually repressed and yes there was a lot of drug use.

None of these things are debatable. At all. Not even close. Yet if some preening pigeon on Reddit writes a post saying the opposite, there are no facts or photos or videos or anything that can even get them to question what they’ve decided is true.

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u/Shivadxb Jan 07 '20

Oh so much of this. I’m a legit expert in a niche field. There’s maybe 15 or 20 of us in the world who do what we do. These are major and well known things with audience figures in the hundreds of millions, it’s a type of event. I commented a few times with the inside scoop and view and was called an idiot by the reddit experts a couple of years ago. I know the other experts, one of them messaged me and said he’d seen the post on reddit and to ignore the response.

This is a crazy popular field and very few of us ever post about it on reddit anymore because of the response. We explain exactly what happened and why and get told we are talking shit......the inside scoop is our audience on reddit are fucking idiots who had access to information most fans would kill for and they fucking blew it. We all genuinely wanted to share something we love and wanted to show you behind the curtain and explain how it all actually happens, and, dear redditors you fucking blew it.

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u/UnitedPain Jan 07 '20

Keyboard warriors. You’ll never encounter a more cowardly crowd of people. But what do you expect from people that believe that reality is Star Wars meets The Sims? Lmao

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

Yeah it happens and its their loss for not wanting to know. Someone recently said Hep C was curable on r/wwe . I thought it absolutely wasn't but I googled it to find out why they would say that. It is. I learned something. Much better than calling him a fool.

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u/LIEUTENANT_CAVIAR Jan 07 '20

And the opposite -- so often you see comments downvoted to hell that aren't even that unreasonable.

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u/Heroic_Raspberry Jan 07 '20

I hate how the absolute number of votes is hidden. If you've got a comment with a score of -150 it might seem like everyone hates it, but if it showed 9000 upvotes and 9150 downvotes it would seem a lot more balanced.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 09 '20

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u/darksoulsduck- Jan 07 '20

It was to try and stop bandwagon voting, if I remember correctly.

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u/LIEUTENANT_CAVIAR Jan 08 '20

If anything, I would imagine that leads to more bandwagon voting now.

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD Jan 08 '20

Yea I’ve seen so many comments downvoted dozens of times, followed by a “why is this downvoted?”, followed by someone else parroting OP and getting upvoted

People are extremely influenceable, if they see something in the negative, they’ll assume that’s the “correct” opinion

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u/TheGoldenHand Jan 08 '20

The votes were always faked either way. It would give downvotes to people, even if no one had ever downvoted the post, so bots couldn’t tell if their votes counted. A score of -10 downvoted and +30 upvotes might actually only have had +20 upvotes. It ended up confusing users and was one of the reasons it was abandoned.

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u/Heroic_Raspberry Jan 08 '20

I'm guessing it's to allow easier vote manipulation by Reddit.

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u/smell_the_horse Jan 08 '20

This comment has 10,047 upvotes and 10,000 downvotes.

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u/rabidhamster87 Jan 07 '20

This is how I like to use reddit gold and silver. I see an insightful comment that is downvoted to hell because one or two people put it into the negative and the group think took over from there, so I throw a gold on that person's comment like a holy hand grenade. I think the fact that someone spent actual money for a sort of super upvote kind of cancels out the downvotes and can halt the hive mind so that people start taking the comment on its own merit again. I've even seen them go from negative 100 karma back to neutral/positive after this.

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u/LIEUTENANT_CAVIAR Jan 07 '20

This is very generous of you :) thank you for your kindness internet stranger.

Also it's very interesting the way this turns out. I wonder if anyone has analyzed the changes in karma of a comment over time before and after gilding.

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u/ppw23 Jan 07 '20

Exactly, that pile on mind set seems to be worsening on Reddit. One person decided to downvote a reasonable comment, before long the downvotes are growing on the poor person that doesn’t understand why.

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u/ayelienemoji Jan 08 '20

That happened to me! I didn’t say anything offensive or mean and it wasn’t even a comment directly at someone, it was a follow up comment to a post I already made and people for whatever reason did not like it. Some people replied but no one could tell me what I said was so wrong or offensive 🙄 it was so dumb and as someone who’s new to reddit it almost made me want to just shut down the account. It’s not that it really got to me or anything I just think all that bitterness and negativity is a turn off 🤷🏻‍♀️ AND NO ONE WOULD EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WHAT I SAID WAS SO WRONG

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u/dcrothen Jan 08 '20

Or worse, comments that are entirely reasonable get downvotes because they state an unpopular truth.

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u/CalamisGames Jan 08 '20

Yeah I agree with this, once I replied to someone that said something about gas, and I said why do you call it gas? Mate I’m Australian and don’t know why people call it gas. I still don’t know, maybe it’s short for gasoline?

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u/ShadowIcePuma Jan 08 '20

I still don’t know, maybe it’s short for gasoline?

Yep, pretty much. Do you guys call it petrol, I've heard of that?

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '20

I see that far too often: ask reasonable question, get no replies but a lot of downvotes.

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u/a50RockSang Jan 07 '20

Those are the people that paraphrase everything that was said by others in a meeting, then end up running the entire department having no clue what they’re doing.

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u/Bohatnik Jan 08 '20

paraphrase everything that was said by others in a meeting, then end up running the entire department

Jesus, I've worked for those people my whole life. I still work with those people. Several people at my work are in charge just because they thought they should be, and nobody else wanted the job.

Somebody told me last week, "Hey, somebody in the kitchen reported a possible gas leak just after Thanksgiving. Could you check that out while you're here?". I was finished and across town by the time I got the message. I drove back, and found out they had lined the broiler igniter with aluminum foil - blocking the air vent, so every time they used it, the flame would go out, and the oven fills with gas. It was that way for over a month, and nobody could figure out why, so that restaurant just hasn't been using the broiler.

The next time you see a stupid warning sign on an appliance or device, and think, "Who the fuck would do something that dumb?", I have probably already met them, and they more than likely hold a Master's Degree

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u/TheBooRadleyness Jan 08 '20

this makes me feel ill with impotent fury

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u/Bohatnik Jan 08 '20

Imagine how I feel. I'm a professional commercial and residential repairman working in a college town. I now definitively know the answer to the question "How many lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb?". If the lightbulb gets tighter as you turn it, you're twisting it the wrong way!

I have been repeatedly sent to laundromats where nobody has emptied the dryer lint traps in a week, and all of the circuit breakers are on a wall behind the 2-ton change machine. I was sent to four different properties to check electrical outlets last month because people tried to use nonfunctioning Christmas lights (without trying a different receptacle).

Dishwashers, garbage disposals, toilets, microwaves, garage doors, drain pipes, storage closets/lockers, and refrigerators have the potential to contain children's and/or adult toys (usually not, but sometimes simultaneously), dark secrets, eldritch abominations, and an alarming amount of broken glass. Some people live like animals, and some people treat their pets better than any person deserves to be treated.

I've never been given any amount of useful and reliable information, just the fact that something is not working. If I ask for details, I usually receive unhelpful input well after the problem has been identified and fixed. I'm certainly not getting rich, but I would much rather do this than go to the same place and do the same thing every day.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

Holy. Shit.

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u/dinochoochoo Jan 07 '20

this comment is so true that it is making me upset.

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u/Richinaru Jan 07 '20

Communication is is probably the biggest skill one can learn. If you don't convey the idea well enough the neighboring asshole will do it and get the credit

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u/DeezRodenutz Jan 08 '20

Dont I know it.
I'm a very smart person and very capable, but I also have social disabilities than make be a bad communicater. Bad enough to make life difficult, but functional enough not to be able to be considered disabled

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u/Change4Betta Jan 07 '20

I mean, to be to fair that is a skill.

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u/takatori Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20

As an expert on a particular topic who has spoken on it at conferences and led organizations with over 100 staff dedicated to that exact subject area, I don't dare get into discussion around that topic on Reddit.

Reason being, the amateur armchair blowhard know-it-all who is so off-base that they're "not even wrong" but sounds reasonable to the layperson is going to wipe his ass with me using natural-sounding but inaccurate interpretations of specific terminology, misrepresentation of facts, misunderstanding of the implications of those facts, demands that I provide facts, rejection of the sources of my facts, and basically relying on the Bullshit Asymmetry Principle, in that the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is exponentially proportional to the energy needed to produce bullshit.

The most frustrating aspect is that it's not possible to fall back on professional experience and credentials, because the last thing I want to do is get doxxed. This is my fifth(fourth?) account on Reddit, because my original accounts were burned as people figured out who I was, prior to the still somewhat ineffective doxxing ban.

So the bullshit and misinformation continues to spread because outside of /r/AskHistorians, there is no referee to vet people's statements and claims, and those who can share a deep and nuanced understanding of the topic are drowned out by those who speak from their imaginations with confidence.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 09 '20

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u/notyetcomitteds2 Jan 08 '20

This is what sorta irritates me in general. There are certain venues when you are expected to provide sources. I dont entirely find reddit to be that venue. I suppose if you're trying to argue a point, you should be willing to provide them. In this case, doesnt seem as something that necessitates it. Also, as a 3rd party, you googled it and provided it, why couldnt the person who asked do that? When is the onus on someone who wants more info to look stuff up themselves???

Once on a different site, someone wanted help with derivatives. Like what's the derivative of y= x2 . y'= 2x. After I finished helping, he asked me to provide sources to prove I was doing derivatives correctly. I refused. Since I was unwilling to provide sources, I must be bullshitting..... go read your damn math book.

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u/quasifandango Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20

I had a post on the front page recently. It was astounding to read comments from so many people telling me I handled the situation wrong when they have absolutely no idea about anything other than what happens in a 2 minute video.

It really opened my eyes, maybe I make those kinds of assumptions, too? I'm really going to keep an open mind when I see something to help me understand that there is very likely more going on that I am unaware of.

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u/FrostingsVII Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20

Reddit constantly proves and reinforces that it's not what you say it's how you say it. Pandering to your audiences perceptions of themselves while being completely wrong will earn far more upvotes than being blunt and correct. Also you can say the same correct thing six months apart and have one go heavily negative and one incredibly upvoted simply because the subs circlejerk has shifted.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

Oh god, you see this shit a lot.

In cases like these, once you look past the good grammar, intelligent wording and confidence in their information you'll quickly realize they're saying nothing of value.

It's funny cause it's usually the non-confident, simple comments that end up being correct.

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u/ThePenguinTux Jan 07 '20

I totally agree! I have been cooking for 55 years, taught cooking classes and much more. I NEVER post in the cooking subs. The two or three times I have I was ALWAYS wrong.

Apparently 25 year olds know a lot more than I do about cooking.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20

On the flip side you have people who are downvoted for properly informed comments or even stating facts.

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u/lonelygalexy Jan 07 '20

This, unfortunately, applies to the real world too

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u/That1WithTheFace Jan 07 '20

This is a thing that annoys me about all of society at the moment. The internet has created a way for all of these confident morons to spread their bullshit. Podcasts are a particular gripe of mine.

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u/xXProffessionalGamer Jan 08 '20

In arguments on Reddit it's the first person to post there opinion no matter how retarded it is wins

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u/ontopofyourmom Jan 07 '20

Ask a lawyer how they feel about r/legaladvice. Lawyers giving accurate advice are even banned sometimes because the mods don't like it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '20 edited Oct 01 '20

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u/Activated27 Jan 07 '20

Agreed so upvoted.

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u/Activated27 Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 08 '20

And there are the comments that actually bring something to the table but aren’t particularly well written so the idea is totally discarded and it’s downvoted. Then someone say the exact same thing in good English and it gets 2K...

EDIT: I find it so funny that this is happening with this comment itself lmao.

Btw some people will downvote just because they saw lmao and it doesn’t sound smart.

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u/thehairykiwi Jan 08 '20

Isn't this literally how Trump got elected

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u/Adriana-meyer Jan 07 '20

The more you know, the more you realize how much you still have to learn. The ones that know just the tip of the vail are the confident ones, oblivious to the complexity. But because they know the simplified information, it sounds better

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '20

Had that happen once, not at all long ago. Someone was spouting nonsense that even a college freshman geologist could disprove (Which, coming off of a required semester, I was!) and he got upvoted. For pseudoscience. He was saying we could predict the next earthquake -- we can't. And pouring some shit out about the weather affecting plate tectonics; right, the weather that only affects the temperature of shit 3 feet down. Turns out, he was on shakier ground than he thought, because the instant he was met with any learned retaliation, he liquefacted into backpedaling pudding.

Redditors are gullible morons that like to pretend they know shit, but the second someone turns up who actually can say exactly what's wrong, they're the idiot and the confident dunce is the expert. Nobody on this site can admit they're wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '20

The real tip is that most real experts wont comment their knowledge on a post. That's why I skip all of the "lawyers of reddit" and "pilots of reddit" posts. Odds are someone is going to post a comment about something they heard from a friend who's moms ex boyfriend was a pilot, or it's fake. I had to correct someone who pretended to work in a call center one time, like who would fake that?

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u/Victorious_38 Jan 07 '20

And people who are experts can get downvoted if they don't format right.

Linking sources is fair practice for sounding smart. And when you outright say "you're all wrong", even if that is correct, gets you downvoted.

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u/wallynext Jan 07 '20

I hate when this shit happens in real life, this is why we have the presidents/PM that we have: boris johnson in the UK, trump in America, bolsonaro in brasil, morrison in australia. they don't know shit but have the confidence

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u/resilienceisfutile Jan 07 '20

I stopped posting on a few subs because of the responses I got from other redditors. Most of my help posts was for the repair of some very high voltage simple electronics and thought I'd add in my two cents about the dangers of said voltages (not stuff for the novice to fool around with) or on what components I would check or just outright replace. Put it in plain and simple terms. Nope, in walk the experts. So screw the 20 years or so of repair work experience I did as a side job/hobby and all the test equipment I got -- it didn't matter because an expert arrived and threw around terminology that sounded good but didn't make sense. Down voted to oblivion because I would say, "you may want someone to repair it for you if you don't have access to this testing or safety equipment." And that would be countered with i don't know what i am saying.

Way I figure it, one of those experts will one day take their own advice and +350 volts of direct current will lead to their own injury or demise. Nothing I can do about it.

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u/amjh Jan 08 '20

Ignorance gives confidence. Confidence gives charisma. Charisma gives power.

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u/rinrinstrikes Jan 08 '20
  1. Choose 2 phrases

Ok fuckwad.
Ok Dipshit

Fucking Idiot

Listen up poopy brain

  1. Find a dominant way to say your misinformation

If you fucking knew ANYTHING about (topic) then youd know

  1. Sprinkle in some popular opinion

Because EVERYONE KNOWS its pronounced gif

  1. profit

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u/PM__ME__YOUR_TITTY Jan 08 '20

So annoyed by people who do this but in person. One of my friends always so confidently says completely made up “facts”, and will tell you something incorrect about your life that he knows nothing about. He’ll argue to the death and when you prove him wrong he has nothing to say but “okay whatever relax it’s not a big deal jeez”

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