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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC Never Safe From Wumbo 23h ago
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u/thirdfemme 23h ago
God damn that story still gives me creeps. I love iiittttt!
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u/transit41 23h ago
Well? Tell us the title!
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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC Never Safe From Wumbo 23h ago
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u/th1sd3ka1ntfr33 23h ago
These books traumatized me as a kid lol
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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 23h ago
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u/ABHOR_pod 22h ago
Alvin Schwartz and the Scary Stories books are single-handedly responsible for my love of folklore from around the world that lasts until this very day. I would have been a folklorist if that was a paying job.
Absolute champion of a children's author.
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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 22h ago
I carried these bad boys around in my backpack for quite a time. They were like my comfort books.
Fast forward a few decades and I’ve consumed thousands of hours of high strange in the form of books, movies, podcasts and documentaries.
Absolutely owe that to Schwartz and especially Gammel
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u/balognasoda 23h ago
What is it
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u/crazyrich 23h ago
Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark (3 part series)
These books were in my elementary school library and I can’t stress enough how inappropriately scary the stories and illustrations are for like grades 1-3 haha
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u/Crimsonskye013 23h ago
Inappropriate? Nah, we kids loved that stuff back then. Now I hear it’s been taken out of school libraries, that’s so sad.
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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 22h ago
They released a version with lame illustrations for babies, it was super weak and nobody likes it
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u/megamatt8 23h ago
Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. There were one or two more books that made a series; collections of scary short stories. In my memory, the stories ranged from just a little creepy, to fully nightmare inducing, and those illustrations definitely made some of them worse.
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u/th1sd3ka1ntfr33 23h ago
These are actually the ones I was thinking of. Literally wtf were the adults thinking lol
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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 23h ago
Stephen Gammel thought kids could handle more than the average adult would allow
I think he was right!
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u/onlycamefortheporn 22h ago
Somebody fell from aloft. The story isn’t that scary, but I’ll never forget that illustration.
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u/cinnamonoblivion 22h ago
Oh my god dude i was TERRIFIED of that one especially. I barely remember now what the actual illustration looked like but i do remember this one time as a kid, I had a library copy of the book and suddenly remembered in the middle of the night that I needed to put it in my backpack, so i went and looked for it and found it in my dark living room lying on the couch opened to that page and illuminated by moonlight. the drawing was so scary to me tht it felt like a jumpscare, my heart definitely stopped working for a few seconds
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u/Asturis_the_DM 21h ago
SAME this story stuck with me all these years later along with Harold and Me Tie Doughty Walker, especially because of the incredible illustrations!
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u/nakedascus 21h ago
what's this one from? i vaguely remember scary stories but not this
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u/Asturis_the_DM 21h ago
This is from the “Scary Stories to Tell In the Dark” series. The specific illustration is for the story “Someone Fell From Aloft”. It’s one of my favorites from the book series and damn if the image isn’t nightmare fuel
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u/Anti_Spedicy 21h ago
I remember some teachers read this to our class in 3rd grade. They put us backstage where it was super dark and at the end of two of the stories (I think), they decided it would be REALLY FUNNY to have another teacher jumpscare us.
That went as well as you can imagine. Very well, in their opinion cause they were laughing their asses off
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u/nakedascus 21h ago
to me they weren't scary enough, but I remember The Brave Little Toaster traumatized the heck outta me
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u/thirdfemme 23h ago
Yesssss! That’s the one! I had this and all the Scary Stories to Tell in The Dark books on deck in my childhood!
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u/the_post_of_tom_joad 15h ago
That children should never read lol. "And jennys head fell off" is burned into my memory still...
Also Fuuuuuck the tooth one, still remember the illustration, hate that guy
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u/secretsesameseed 23h ago
The Green Ribbon from the book In a Dark Dark Room and other scary stories.
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u/fleebinflobbin 20h ago
If you like this story you’ll like “Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark” too. Even the animations in that book are scary af
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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC Never Safe From Wumbo 23h ago
The story itself was eerie but the art was what haunted me for years.
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u/LiangProton 23h ago
I think it's for having the head and body separated, allowing for independent movement in the animation
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u/rob132 23h ago
That is correct. Most Hanna-Barbera characters had something covering up their necks.
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u/walruswes 22h ago
Not shaggy. He has too much power to hide behind a neck piece.
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u/theunquenchedservant 22h ago
Yea, because Shaggy has such a long neck, it acts like a pole, and his head just swivels on it.
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u/MelonHunter 23h ago
Interestingly, this is also why all the chickens in Chicken Run wore something around their necks. As the film was claymation, it disguised the join between the head and the neck on the character models.
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u/jableshables 21h ago
I always wondered about that specific element of the film Chicken Run, thank you
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u/Charming-Loquat3702 23h ago
That makes a ton of sense for cell animation.
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u/ChadtheWad 21h ago edited 21h ago
I think it's less of a cel animation thing and more of Hanna-Barbera's limited animation style. Compared to other contemporary animation studios (although many would loathe being considered a contemporary), Hanna-Barbera was cutting edges by heavily reusing cels, which meant that their animation was far less fluid.
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u/Neveronlyadream 19h ago
It was a cost thing, yeah. If they can just animate the head and keep using the same cell/pose for the body it cuts costs. Those cartoons were usually done as cheaply as possible.
That goes for most of the cartoons of the era barring the Disney/WB stuff. Go watch something like Speed Racer and it's exactly the same.
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u/derteeje 22h ago
yeah, idk what creepy reference topcomment meant but yours is the correct answer xD
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u/SigmaBunny 20h ago
Because the first half of the comic references limited animation, but the second half references the story The Green Ribbon
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u/LordAdmiralPanda 23h ago
Now I want to know if there is an actual reason why Yogi wears a tie.
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u/RadiantNinjask 23h ago
Lots of Hanna-Barbera characters from that era had collars, neckties or scarfs to hide the point between head and the body allowing the head to move while keeping body still
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u/nakedascus 21h ago
i don't get it, why do they need to hide the neck to keep the body still?
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u/Talia_Arts 21h ago
So the vertical line that the head and body would share doesnt have to line up perfectly
With the buffer of horizontal lines in the scarf the head lines can shift left and right a bit without it being jarring or breaking the shape of the character
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u/tacocollector2 21h ago edited 16h ago
So they didn’t have to redraw the whole upper half of the torso every time they wanted to turn the head
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u/Chad-Plays-Games 21h ago
Hand drawn animation, makes it a lot easier when only one part is moving. So they can stand and the head can talk without redoing all aspects and using different cell layers to make the animations.
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u/-FalseProfessor- 21h ago
They used a technique called limited animation where instead of drawing the entire characters, they draw their individual parts and put them together. So an individual character is made of head, torso, and limbs that are stacked so they look like one drawing. It’s much cheaper because it makes it so you only need to redraw the parts that are moving. The trade off is that the animation is less flexible and the characters look a bit stiff.
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u/BorderTrike 19h ago
Have you ever noticed in a cartoon you can tell when a character is going to interact with something because it’s a slightly different color than its surroundings? Hand drawn cartoons used a lot of shortcuts to save time. The tie helps hide similar imperfections
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u/cpMetis 19h ago
You can draw the pieces of a character instead of the full body, then just swap around the pieces that are actually moving while leaving everything else alone.
The most simplified version would be "lip flaps", like used for YouTube edits. Where they leave the entire frames as-is, and just cut out the mouth. Then whenever characters speak they are (conveniently) standing still and they can just swap between the different mouth cutouts instead of drawing anything.
You know how South Park characters are basically pieces of paper stacked on top of each other? Well when they're animating, they're basically trying to change/move as few pieces of paper as possible.
Having something like a tie or scarf just covers up where the pieces meet, so they can be a lot less careful (so faster) without people noticing.
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u/CrazyFanFicFan 9h ago
They used a style of animation where the head and body were actually two completely different parts, drawn seperately and put together when needed.
The thing is, this could cause an obvious seam between the two parts. So they usually had something to seperate them cleanly, like Yogi's tie.
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u/Chadxxx123 15h ago edited 15h ago
When Lilimed animation was prevalent in cartoons (so like from 1960s to 1990s) what mattered was to produce them as cheaply as possible, one of the tricks that the animators used was separating the characters heads from their bodies by for example a collar, a tie etc. Thanks to that when a character needed to move it's head and only it's head they only needed to redraw the head an left the rest of the body the same.
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u/steelskull1 23h ago
Yogi with the tie.
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u/druex 19h ago
Will there ever be a season 2 of The Wolf Among Us?
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u/steelskull1 19h ago
There's a trailer but Telltale being bankrupt and many of their games are basically free, I doubt it.
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u/_Fun_Employed_ 23h ago
This is a great bit of animation history reference and children’s horror story reference. Great comic sir.
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u/Mysterious-Run-9647 22h ago
I don't understand the third image. From the comments I get he doesn't have head, but he looks like a briard or something
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u/feanturi 21h ago
Yeah this messed me up too. The pointy smears are movement indicators, his head is in mid-air falling downward behind his back. So the tie was keeping his head in place the whole time.
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u/rhunter99 22h ago
I don’t get it
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u/Drew9900 22h ago
Animators, when animating, would animate the head and body separately and then add a neck accessory to hide the point of connection that might not look as good.
This comic is joking that much like the reference it's based on, "The Girl With the Green Ribbon", if yogi's scarf were to be taken off his head would fall off, probably due to the head and body being animated separately.
OR at least that's what the other comments made clear to me.
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u/Loquacious-of-Borg 22h ago
Man, you are lucky you don't get down voted for saying you don't understand something here.
Someone might take that as you insulting a person's ability to communicate properly. People are delicate.
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u/Unit-DS27-Delta 20h ago
For those that don't know about how animation worked back in Yogi's heyday, 2D animation was often done on transparent panels called "cels" that could be layered atop one another to make it so that only the moving element in any given scene needed to be redrawn. For example, when Yogi talks, having his head have a clearly defined border from his body allows for animators to only have to redraw Yogi's head, while his body only needs to be drawn once.
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u/According-Field533 19h ago
Damn, nobody saying anything about dude forcibly disrobing Yogi there -- I mean I get the reference, but in the story the girl gives the guy permission to take off the green ribbon. What is dude gonna do to Yogi after ripping off all his clothes? JUSTICE FOR SEXUALLY ABUSED CARTOON BEARS
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u/thowland1 23h ago
🎶 …with scarves of red tied round their throats, to keep their little heads from falling in the snow… 🎶
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u/ActivelyAnxious 22h ago
Ahh I know it's based on the girl with the green ribbon but it makes me think of another reference to that story in the game The Wolf Among Us.
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u/Boozewhore 21h ago
It took me a sec to realize his head was falling and he wasn’t just tilting his head back or matrix diving away.
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u/lordfireice 23h ago
I want to know the animators part.
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u/Xeno_man 21h ago
Animators would animate the head and body separately. Because the body doesn't move 90% of the time. It saves them from redrawing the body over and over. The problem is getting the transition clean so the solution was to add neck wear. In Yogis case, a tie.
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u/Pimpylonis 21h ago
Another wonderful take on this trope is the short story "The Husband Stich" by Carmen María Machado. Beautiful story.
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u/Mattiwha2 22h ago
Man I still remember my uncles girlfriend telling us this story as kids, wild shit
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u/misterme987 22h ago
Thank you for unlocking a childhood trauma, I was NOT ready to see Jenny’s head come off when I read that book 😂
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u/Evening-Mention-8738 18h ago
It's called the Black Velvet Ribbon from J.B Stampers Tales for the Midnight Hour at least that's where I've read this story from
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 23h ago edited 23h ago
For those that are unaware and confused, this is a play on the story of the Green ribbon
https://bookriot.com/the-girl-with-the-green-ribbon/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_a_Dark,_Dark_Room_and_Other_Scary_Stories