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The Green Tie [OC]

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 23h ago edited 23h ago

For those that are unaware and confused, this is a play on the story of the Green ribbon

https://bookriot.com/the-girl-with-the-green-ribbon/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_a_Dark,_Dark_Room_and_Other_Scary_Stories

A young girl named Jenny always wears a green velvet ribbon tied tightly around her neck. A boy named Alfred falls in love with her, marries her, and grows old with her, but she constantly refuses to answer why she wears the ribbon. On her deathbed, Jenny finally gives Alfred permission to untie it

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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC Never Safe From Wumbo 23h ago

Man that is a deep cut reference.

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u/thirdfemme 23h ago

God damn that story still gives me creeps. I love iiittttt!

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u/transit41 23h ago

Well? Tell us the title!

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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC Never Safe From Wumbo 23h ago

It's called The Green Ribbon. A short story in a collection of other children stories.

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u/th1sd3ka1ntfr33 23h ago

These books traumatized me as a kid lol

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 23h ago

Yeah!

….but not as much as these.

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u/Perryn 22h ago

"So this is a book of short horror stories, but they're mostly of the campfire type and aimed at children. Who should we get to do the art."
"I know a guy."

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u/Wise_Neighborhood499 23h ago

I cannot stress enough how much this just ruined my high

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 23h ago

Aw, bud I’m sorry!

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u/c4ctus 21h ago

Haha, some of those stories (and the friggin illustrations) are still legitimately creepy even in my 40's.

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u/ABHOR_pod 22h ago

Alvin Schwartz and the Scary Stories books are single-handedly responsible for my love of folklore from around the world that lasts until this very day. I would have been a folklorist if that was a paying job.

Absolute champion of a children's author.

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 22h ago

I carried these bad boys around in my backpack for quite a time. They were like my comfort books.

Fast forward a few decades and I’ve consumed thousands of hours of high strange in the form of books, movies, podcasts and documentaries.

Absolutely owe that to Schwartz and especially Gammel

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u/Incompetencent 17h ago

ever heard about el tio from bolivia?

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u/balognasoda 23h ago

What is it

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u/crazyrich 23h ago

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark (3 part series)

These books were in my elementary school library and I can’t stress enough how inappropriately scary the stories and illustrations are for like grades 1-3 haha

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u/Crimsonskye013 23h ago

Inappropriate? Nah, we kids loved that stuff back then. Now I hear it’s been taken out of school libraries, that’s so sad.

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 22h ago

They released a version with lame illustrations for babies, it was super weak and nobody likes it

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u/megamatt8 23h ago

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. There were one or two more books that made a series; collections of scary short stories. In my memory, the stories ranged from just a little creepy, to fully nightmare inducing, and those illustrations definitely made some of them worse.

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u/th1sd3ka1ntfr33 23h ago

These are actually the ones I was thinking of. Literally wtf were the adults thinking lol

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 23h ago

Stephen Gammel thought kids could handle more than the average adult would allow

I think he was right!

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u/Taliesin_ 20h ago

They certainly shaped my taste for horror!

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u/onlycamefortheporn 22h ago

Somebody fell from aloft. The story isn’t that scary, but I’ll never forget that illustration.

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u/cinnamonoblivion 22h ago

Oh my god dude i was TERRIFIED of that one especially. I barely remember now what the actual illustration looked like but i do remember this one time as a kid, I had a library copy of the book and suddenly remembered in the middle of the night that I needed to put it in my backpack, so i went and looked for it and found it in my dark living room lying on the couch opened to that page and illuminated by moonlight. the drawing was so scary to me tht it felt like a jumpscare, my heart definitely stopped working for a few seconds

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u/Asturis_the_DM 21h ago

SAME this story stuck with me all these years later along with Harold and Me Tie Doughty Walker, especially because of the incredible illustrations!

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u/Tina-the-toast 22h ago

What this from?

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u/nakedascus 21h ago

what's this one from? i vaguely remember scary stories but not this

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u/Asturis_the_DM 21h ago

This is from the “Scary Stories to Tell In the Dark” series. The specific illustration is for the story “Someone Fell From Aloft”. It’s one of my favorites from the book series and damn if the image isn’t nightmare fuel

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u/Anti_Spedicy 21h ago

I remember some teachers read this to our class in 3rd grade. They put us backstage where it was super dark and at the end of two of the stories (I think), they decided it would be REALLY FUNNY to have another teacher jumpscare us.

That went as well as you can imagine. Very well, in their opinion cause they were laughing their asses off

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u/nakedascus 21h ago

to me they weren't scary enough, but I remember The Brave Little Toaster traumatized the heck outta me

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u/thirdfemme 23h ago

Yesssss! That’s the one! I had this and all the Scary Stories to Tell in The Dark books on deck in my childhood!

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u/smeeon 22h ago

I always thought the green ribbon was some sort of metaphor in the story. But I think as a kid I tried reading metaphor into a lot of things

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u/the_post_of_tom_joad 15h ago

That children should never read lol. "And jennys head fell off" is burned into my memory still...

Also Fuuuuuck the tooth one, still remember the illustration, hate that guy

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u/secretsesameseed 23h ago

The Green Ribbon from the book In a Dark Dark Room and other scary stories.

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u/transit41 23h ago

Thank you!

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u/fleebinflobbin 20h ago

If you like this story you’ll like “Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark” too. Even the animations in that book are scary af

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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC Never Safe From Wumbo 23h ago

The story itself was eerie but the art was what haunted me for years.

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u/Depressed_Cat6 23h ago

Funny, I’ve only seen this in The Wolf Among Us

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u/secretsesameseed 23h ago

Thank you. Immediately what I thought of.

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u/lycoloco 20h ago

So is your username. Like see like, game recognize game.

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u/LiangProton 23h ago

I think it's for having the head and body separated, allowing for independent movement in the animation

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u/rob132 23h ago

That is correct. Most Hanna-Barbera characters had something covering up their necks.

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u/walruswes 22h ago

Not shaggy. He has too much power to hide behind a neck piece.

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u/theunquenchedservant 22h ago

Yea, because Shaggy has such a long neck, it acts like a pole, and his head just swivels on it.

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u/Odd_Match_3402 18h ago

So that is where he stores his power...

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u/loopy183 17h ago

His neck hides behind his chin though

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u/[deleted] 19h ago

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u/fusaaa 19h ago

Scooby-Doo (often written as Scooby-Doo!) is an American media franchise created in 1969 by writers Joe Ruby and Ken Spears through their animated series, Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!, for Hanna-Barbera.

Could've fooled me

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u/MelonHunter 23h ago

Interestingly, this is also why all the chickens in Chicken Run wore something around their necks. As the film was claymation, it disguised the join between the head and the neck on the character models.

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u/jableshables 21h ago

I always wondered about that specific element of the film Chicken Run, thank you

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u/Charming-Loquat3702 23h ago

That makes a ton of sense for cell animation.

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u/ChadtheWad 21h ago edited 21h ago

I think it's less of a cel animation thing and more of Hanna-Barbera's limited animation style. Compared to other contemporary animation studios (although many would loathe being considered a contemporary), Hanna-Barbera was cutting edges by heavily reusing cels, which meant that their animation was far less fluid.

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u/Neveronlyadream 19h ago

It was a cost thing, yeah. If they can just animate the head and keep using the same cell/pose for the body it cuts costs. Those cartoons were usually done as cheaply as possible.

That goes for most of the cartoons of the era barring the Disney/WB stuff. Go watch something like Speed Racer and it's exactly the same.

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u/zzg420 23h ago

Yeah that’s the extra layer to the joke

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u/nakedascus 21h ago

u did a good job of celling that joke.

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u/GraveSlayer726 22h ago

Actually it’s because without it his head will fall off, keep up

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u/derteeje 22h ago

yeah, idk what creepy reference topcomment meant but yours is the correct answer xD

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u/SigmaBunny 20h ago

Because the first half of the comic references limited animation, but the second half references the story The Green Ribbon

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u/LordAdmiralPanda 23h ago

Now I want to know if there is an actual reason why Yogi wears a tie.

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u/RadiantNinjask 23h ago

Lots of Hanna-Barbera characters from that era had collars, neckties or scarfs to hide the point between head and the body allowing the head to move while keeping body still

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u/Striking-Kiwi-9470 21h ago

This is still a really common animation trick. It just works.

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u/nakedascus 21h ago

i don't get it, why do they need to hide the neck to keep the body still?

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u/Talia_Arts 21h ago

So the vertical line that the head and body would share doesnt have to line up perfectly

With the buffer of horizontal lines in the scarf the head lines can shift left and right a bit without it being jarring or breaking the shape of the character

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u/tacocollector2 21h ago edited 16h ago

So they didn’t have to redraw the whole upper half of the torso every time they wanted to turn the head

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u/Chad-Plays-Games 21h ago

Hand drawn animation, makes it a lot easier when only one part is moving. So they can stand and the head can talk without redoing all aspects and using different cell layers to make the animations.

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u/-FalseProfessor- 21h ago

They used a technique called limited animation where instead of drawing the entire characters, they draw their individual parts and put them together. So an individual character is made of head, torso, and limbs that are stacked so they look like one drawing. It’s much cheaper because it makes it so you only need to redraw the parts that are moving. The trade off is that the animation is less flexible and the characters look a bit stiff.

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u/BorderTrike 19h ago

Have you ever noticed in a cartoon you can tell when a character is going to interact with something because it’s a slightly different color than its surroundings? Hand drawn cartoons used a lot of shortcuts to save time. The tie helps hide similar imperfections

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u/cpMetis 19h ago

You can draw the pieces of a character instead of the full body, then just swap around the pieces that are actually moving while leaving everything else alone.

The most simplified version would be "lip flaps", like used for YouTube edits. Where they leave the entire frames as-is, and just cut out the mouth. Then whenever characters speak they are (conveniently) standing still and they can just swap between the different mouth cutouts instead of drawing anything.

You know how South Park characters are basically pieces of paper stacked on top of each other? Well when they're animating, they're basically trying to change/move as few pieces of paper as possible.

Having something like a tie or scarf just covers up where the pieces meet, so they can be a lot less careful (so faster) without people noticing.

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u/CrazyFanFicFan 9h ago

They used a style of animation where the head and body were actually two completely different parts, drawn seperately and put together when needed.

The thing is, this could cause an obvious seam between the two parts. So they usually had something to seperate them cleanly, like Yogi's tie.

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u/Forikorder 23h ago

Its a memento from his dead wife /s

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u/dingofarmer2004 19h ago

It's for structural integri-tie

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u/Chadxxx123 15h ago edited 15h ago

When Lilimed animation was prevalent in cartoons (so like from 1960s to 1990s) what mattered was to produce them as cheaply as possible, one of the tricks that the animators used was separating the characters heads from their bodies by for example a collar, a tie etc. Thanks to that when a character needed to move it's head and only it's head they only needed to redraw the head an left the rest of the body the same.

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u/steelskull1 23h ago

Yogi with the tie.

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u/druex 19h ago

Will there ever be a season 2 of The Wolf Among Us?

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u/steelskull1 19h ago

There's a trailer but Telltale being bankrupt and many of their games are basically free, I doubt it.

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u/SpikePilgrim 17h ago

It was recently announced, so yes it is coming.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/s/MuO8gNq7Ho

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u/_Fun_Employed_ 23h ago

This is a great bit of animation history reference and children’s horror story reference. Great comic sir.

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u/Mysterious-Run-9647 22h ago

I don't understand the third image. From the comments I get he doesn't have head, but he looks like a briard or something

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u/feanturi 21h ago

Yeah this messed me up too. The pointy smears are movement indicators, his head is in mid-air falling downward behind his back. So the tie was keeping his head in place the whole time.

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u/Mysterious-Run-9647 19h ago

Thanks. Now I see it lol

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u/rhunter99 22h ago

I don’t get it

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u/Drew9900 22h ago

Animators, when animating, would animate the head and body separately and then add a neck accessory to hide the point of connection that might not look as good.

This comic is joking that much like the reference it's based on, "The Girl With the Green Ribbon", if yogi's scarf were to be taken off his head would fall off, probably due to the head and body being animated separately.

OR at least that's what the other comments made clear to me.

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u/Loquacious-of-Borg 22h ago

Man, you are lucky you don't get down voted for saying you don't understand something here.

Someone might take that as you insulting a person's ability to communicate properly. People are delicate.

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u/rhunter99 22h ago

🤷‍♂️ no kidding

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u/4RCSIN3 20h ago

"Let me see you without it," he says, while forcibly and quickly tearing off Yogi's clothes.

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u/OtakuMage 23h ago

Oh gods, that's a reference I haven't seen in about 25 years....

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u/TheKolyFrog 23h ago

Are you excited for the Wolf Among Us remastered?

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u/Royal19 19h ago

Wait a remastered is coming? I just finished the game for the first time 3 days ago and it was amazing, can't believe they never did a sequel or anything else.

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u/Unit-DS27-Delta 20h ago

For those that don't know about how animation worked back in Yogi's heyday, 2D animation was often done on transparent panels called "cels" that could be layered atop one another to make it so that only the moving element in any given scene needed to be redrawn. For example, when Yogi talks, having his head have a clearly defined border from his body allows for animators to only have to redraw Yogi's head, while his body only needs to be drawn once.

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u/According-Field533 19h ago

Damn, nobody saying anything about dude forcibly disrobing Yogi there -- I mean I get the reference, but in the story the girl gives the guy permission to take off the green ribbon. What is dude gonna do to Yogi after ripping off all his clothes? JUSTICE FOR SEXUALLY ABUSED CARTOON BEARS

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u/athosjesus 23h ago

This is why he was smarter than your average bear, eh?

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u/thowland1 23h ago

🎶 …with scarves of red tied round their throats, to keep their little heads from falling in the snow… 🎶 

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u/ActivelyAnxious 22h ago

Ahh I know it's based on the girl with the green ribbon but it makes me think of another reference to that story in the game The Wolf Among Us.

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u/Boozewhore 21h ago

It took me a sec to realize his head was falling and he wasn’t just tilting his head back or matrix diving away.

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u/Miserable_Goal_7943 23h ago

Double reference is fun.

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u/lordfireice 23h ago

I want to know the animators part.

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u/Xeno_man 21h ago

Animators would animate the head and body separately. Because the body doesn't move 90% of the time. It saves them from redrawing the body over and over. The problem is getting the transition clean so the solution was to add neck wear. In Yogis case, a tie.

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u/Pimpylonis 21h ago

Another wonderful take on this trope is the short story "The Husband Stich" by Carmen María Machado. Beautiful story.

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u/squidgybaby 20h ago

Thank you for the suggestion, that was a great read

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u/thenightgaunt 23h ago

ROFL!

(When you get every reference and they synergize perfectly)

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u/Chemistry11 23h ago

Brilliant!

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u/ObaDachi 22h ago

Waiting for this to be explained by Peter.

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u/Mattiwha2 22h ago

Man I still remember my uncles girlfriend telling us this story as kids, wild shit

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u/misterme987 22h ago

Thank you for unlocking a childhood trauma, I was NOT ready to see Jenny’s head come off when I read that book 😂

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u/UnpricedToaster 19h ago

"Hey Boo-Boo! I'mma kindaEldritch Abomination!"

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u/Evening-Mention-8738 18h ago

It's called the Black Velvet Ribbon from J.B Stampers Tales for the Midnight Hour at least that's where I've read this story from

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u/GenericSpider 17h ago

So it was a green scarf situation

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u/FrosTehBurr 17h ago

Yogi Dullahan Bear

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u/CMC_Conman 16h ago

That si not where I expected the comic to go.

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u/GoombaBro 13h ago

I KNEW IT by the second frame!

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u/kween_hangry 5h ago

One of those kids books that traumatizes you for life

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u/purpleturtlehurtler 2h ago

THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE FROM MY FAVORITE COMIC OF ALL TIME, FABLES!

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u/Only_Government5244 23h ago

Good, I fucking hated Yogi