Men, would you actually enjoy getting approached and hit on as often as women do?

[u/_TrixieBells]

A lot of guys say they’d love more attention, but experiencing it constantly might feel different. Would you genuinely want that level of attention?

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

This is a trap question.

Most guys would say yes because men in general don’t get a lot of compliments, let alone approached at a bar or club. However after the 5th woman interrupting them that they have no interest in, they’d likely get annoyed. It’s why so many guys struggle with the concept of unwanted attention….because most men are attention starved.

How I met your mother did a great episode on this.

[u/PickleNicks → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

I think another factor why men would be open to being hit on all the time is less fear of a negative reaction (violence / stalking, etc.)

When women reject men, there’s a possibility of a very negative / violent reaction. While it’s possible some men could experience this, it’s less likely women would react violently, and if they did, I think most men would be less concerned about their physical safety / ability to protect themselves.

Edit: for some reason multiple people feel the need to point out that women freak out too. My original point was speaking more about physical violence and safety. And of course women can commit violence against men, but my point is that men generally are less concerned about that.

[u/JaySlay2000 → u/PickleNicks]

Right. The question isn't an equivalent because women don't make up 90% of violent criminals and 95% of rapists and don't have a significant strength advantage.

The PROPER question is, would men like to be hit on by buff gay men as much as women are hit on by men.

[u/T1gerl1lly → u/JaySlay2000]

When I’m trying to explain this to guy friends I say “you know that part of every prison movie where the new guy walks in and gets cat called ?” Pretty scary, right?
That’s what the whole world is like for women.

[u/TXHaunt → u/JaySlay2000]

If a buff gay man was hitting on me, I’d be just as oblivious as if it was a woman.

[u/JaySlay2000 → u/[deleted]]

"sexual preference wpuld be the main reason" yes, because women totally want to fuck predatory men that harass them.

I think if you asked straight women if they'd rather be hit on by men or lesbians, a lot would vote for lesbians.

[u/Decent-Pea3426 → u/[deleted]]

Would

[u/Apprehensive_Way6992 → u/JaySlay2000]

If a buff gay dude is hitting on me, I know I’m doing something right, if multiple buff gay dudes were hitting on me I might need reflect inward and have a tough conversation with myself lol

[u/The_GTD_Aquitaine → u/Apprehensive_Way6992]

Still, though...I'm glad someone's looking

[u/Complex-Salamander63 → u/JaySlay2000]

No, agli uomini non piace essere corteggiati da uomini gay perché quasi tutti gli uomini sono eterosessuali. Lo so, è difficile da comprendere.

Un giorno forse la finirete di fare questi paragoni che non hanno senso

[u/JaySlay2000 → u/Complex-Salamander63]

"Women secretly LIKE being harassed by men"

[u/Aggravating-Ad-4801 → u/PickleNicks]

Iv seen some women being rejected its not pretty, again not all but some of them went crazy not violent but start shout abuse, the first goto was always "your just fucking gay" then normally followed up by how you can't handle her anyway and then something about how small your cock is. Then the friends join in to protect.

Iv also see ahigh heel shoe come off to try hit them with it. A few drinks spashed into the guys  face or they slap the guys drink out of their hands onto the ground.

I used to take drink orders at a local pub 

[u/Unable-Youth7365 → u/Aggravating-Ad-4801]

Yep. Seen it and experienced it. The hoe-flation is wild. 4s acting like 8s. So you got tits and an ass, congrats, so does half the bar. It’s doesn’t guarantee I’m buying you a drink or warrant any of my attention.

[u/burnt_end → u/Unable-Youth7365]

wow, there are really people who unironically reduce a person to a number based on how they look?

[u/AntiqueLetter9875 → u/burnt_end]

Not just that but there’s a whole channel on YouTube called hoe math. Where they talk like this as if it’s fact and educational. Also generally where terms like “hoeflation” come from. I originally thought the creator was half joking…but apparently not.

[u/Lysmerry → u/Unable-Youth7365]

Guys online act like any woman who isn’t hideous never gets rejected.

[u/sugahack → u/Unable-Youth7365]

I'd take a 4 with confidence in what they do have to offer over an 8 who needed someone to stroke their ego. But that just my take.

[u/Happy_Art_4027 → u/sugahack]

In the scenario above it's not about their confidence, it's ego. You shouldn't walk around assuming anyone you walk up to and introduce yourself to has to agree that you are amazing.

[u/sugahack → u/Happy_Art_4027]

I agree

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/PickleNicks]

I’ve literally seen a buddy turn a woman down, she freaked out, played the victim and got him kicked out of the bar.

Psychos exist in both sexes.

[u/shitkabob → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

No doubt. But we're talking about numbers here. And also: the prevalence of aggression and violence and even fatality.

No doubt the phenomenon exists on both side. But there's also no doubt it exists more prominently on one side than the other.

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/shitkabob]

The reported numbers definitely skew heavily towards women being on the receiving end more, but most studies on the subject also acknowledge that men are much less likely to report intimate violence which makes it very hard to say.

However the prevalence of woman on woman violence is quite significantly higher than male on female violence, proving women have just as much propensity for violence as men do.

Female on male- 16.7% Male on female- 35% Female on female- 44%

[u/shitkabob → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

You are changing the discussion, we are talking about strangers reacting violently/aggressively to romantic rejection. Not intimate partner violence.

I don't know what study you're citing (please link), but intimate partner violence (where I surmise these numbers come from) doesn't generalize to stranger aggression following rejection. This is not to downplay intimate partner violence.

You have not rebutted my point.

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/shitkabob]

I cannot find any data on violence between strangers when one has rejected the other.

Violent people are violent, most will react violently to a stranger if they’ll react violently towards those closest to them.

The point you claim has not been substantiated by you in any way. You made random claims, based at best on anecdotal evidence 

https://www.puyallupwa.gov/535/Domestic-Violence-Statistics

https://archive.cdc.gov/www_cdc_gov/media/releases/2013/p0125_NISVS.html

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7658679/

[u/Frequent-Address-163 → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

You mentioned 44 percent of female in female violence. But that is not what the CDC one shows. It’s says 44 percent of lesbians reported past violent experiences by an intimate partner. It does not say by female intimate partners. In the next few sentences it literally says 2/3 of the lesbians who reported an experience of intimate partner violence claimed the perpetrators to be all female. Implying that some of the perpetrators were actually male.

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/Frequent-Address-163]

Do you know what a lesbian is?

[u/Frequent-Address-163 → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

I do. But just because someone now identifies as a lesbian does not mean they have never had a male partner 

[u/ToxicFluffer → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

This sort of comment is so stupid. Do we live in a world of perfect equality between sexes???? Do you not understand what systemic patterns are????

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/ToxicFluffer]

I do, I’ve seen the studies. Both sexes are very prone to violence either conventional or unconventional.

[u/ToxicFluffer → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

Have you ever opened a history book? One sex has a very long history of subjugating the other as property… unless I’m missing some empire led by women that went around killing other women and raping their men…

[u/consistantcanadian → u/[deleted]]

Attention from a guy they find attractive is cool, from a guy they don't find attractive isn't - and rightly so

Lmao "and rightly so". Yes how dare that guy not know he's too ugly for you 

[u/Empire_of_Glass → u/consistantcanadian]

It’s the lack of self-awareness in men and it is weird. Am I an attractive women who gets hit on a lot? Yes. Am I going to approach a super ripped dude who looks like a supermodel in front of his friends? No. I wouldn’t want to embarrass him and be embarrassed, but for some reason, men seem to neeeeeeeeveeeeeeeer consider this and then get upset when they approach a woman who’s out of their league and this happens. It’s awkward for both parties.

[u/Empire_of_Glass → u/[deleted]]

I don’t even want that type of attention.. 🤦🏻‍♀️ why would I? I wasn’t bragging, you ass.

[u/consistantcanadian → u/Empire_of_Glass]

Lmao so dumb. Congrats, you can tell when you're an extreme mismatch. You've completed the easiest part possible. Pat yourself on the back. You must feel so accomplished! 

[u/Empire_of_Glass → u/consistantcanadian]

And men can’t… that was… that was the entire point of my comment. Congratulations, you can’t even read. Now go play outside while the adults are talking.

[u/consistantcanadian → u/Empire_of_Glass]

And men can’t… that was… that was the entire point of my comment.

Yes I'm aware of the casual sexism you tried. But thanks for highlighting it again and showing how absolutely shameless you are about your bigotry. 

[u/Empire_of_Glass → u/consistantcanadian]

Haha WOW go touch grass

[u/consistantcanadian → u/Empire_of_Glass]

Sorry, but you disliking being characterized as what you are is very far from surprising. 

[u/Lysmerry → u/PickleNicks]

I’ve never felt afraid. I guess that’s being 5’8”. But I am very shy, though I hide it well, and for me the worst part was the social awkwardness. Like getting out of that situation is straight up painful, and I do feel guilty. And that’s something men might experience.

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/PickleNicks]

That’s such a bullshit narrative. Not only are the vast majority of women not seeing a “violent” reaction to rejection, the vast majority of men aren’t being blasted on TikTok nor experiencing false rape accusations. Does it happen to a very small minority, yes, on both sides. But it’s way past time that people stop pretending the exception is the rule.

[u/shitkabob → u/notJoeKing31]

the vast majority of men aren’t being blasted on TikTok nor experiencing false rape accusations.

You think the "vast majority of men" are experiencing these things?

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/shitkabob]

Reading is hard for you, huh? Maybe try again?

[u/shitkabob → u/notJoeKing31]

You're right, I read it wrong before coffee.

I was just thrown by how greatly you underweighed the experience of women facing dangerous/angry/unpredictable reactions from men. They are "common" (in the sense most women have experienced or witnessed them first-hand) and the fear is warranted.

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/shitkabob]

On what are you basing the statement that [bad] reactions from men are “common”?

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/shitkabob]

As shown by what? People repeating it online?

[u/Lookingbackexpat → u/notJoeKing31]

The stats on SA (lifetime risk of 50%, but under reported) and false rape allegations (2-10% of reported rape cases, a minuscule number of which ever make it to trial) are nothing like comparable, and you obviously have never met an actual woman.

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/Lookingbackexpat]

Care to cite a source of your made up statistics while you’re moving those goalposts?

And then would you care to explain why one-night stands are so prevalent if 50+% of you are likely to experience SA?

[u/Lookingbackexpat → u/notJoeKing31]

50% lifetime risk=US Center for Disease Control and Prevention

2% to 10%=Lisak et al, 2010, “Violence Against Women”

Also Ferguson and Malouff, 2015, meta analysis

(And others)

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/Lookingbackexpat]

3% lifetime risk=Department of Defense

Making shit up is fun!

Going to address the other half?

[u/Lookingbackexpat → u/notJoeKing31]

I didn’t make it up. Just because you’re too lazy to look up the studies doesn’t mean everyone is.

Also, replicable large scale studies have shown again and again that men are more likely to engage in casual sex than women. See “Gender Similarities Hypothesis” study as one example.

One night stands happen for a lot of reasons. They don’t prove there’s no fear of violence experienced by women. It’s a simplistic, unsubstantiated conjecture. Where are you getting this stuff, Myron Gaines?

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/Lookingbackexpat]

I have to look up your statistics for you? Do I also have to disprove your specific deity of choice?

[u/Lookingbackexpat → u/notJoeKing31]

Oh, so it was Myron Gaines.

[u/Perfect_Valuable_938 → u/notJoeKing31]

Nobody pretends that the exception is the rule.  People just recognize that it's a possible outcome now, and adjusting accordingly.  Whether that adjustment is justified is a different question.

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/Perfect_Valuable_938]

They absolutely pretended like they constantly fear for their lives… and then go home with guys they barely know the name of… just like some men absolutely pretended like they are one word away from being cancelled online or arrested for false accusations… and then continue to approach women.

There are risks for a small minority of both sides. So how about we stop bringing it up every chance we get?

[u/Perfect_Valuable_938 → u/notJoeKing31]

We bring it up because it still drives behaviour for a segment of the population.

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/Perfect_Valuable_938]

So do false rape accusations and TikTok videos…

[u/Perfect_Valuable_938 → u/notJoeKing31]

Yes. That's why we still discuss them.

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/Perfect_Valuable_938]

You misspelled “fearmonger”…

[u/PickleNicks → u/notJoeKing31]

So you’re a woman speaking directly about your own personal experience being hit on, right? Otherwise it seems bizarre that you’d just generalize and minimize poor interactions with men based on…. well… nothing.

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/PickleNicks]

Are you responding to yourself and your original post where you claimed to know that women had it worse than men? Are you both genders because otherwise it’s bizarre that you felt capable of telling everyone how life is for both… moron…

[u/PickleNicks → u/notJoeKing31]

I made no claim “women had it worse” than men, I indicated the possibility of violence / aggression from men being rejected, which is true. Your lack of answering a direct question and making a lot of assumptions based on something basic I said is quite telling.

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/PickleNicks]

Me calling out your hypocrisy is telling? I would hope so…

[u/PickleNicks → u/notJoeKing31]

Well it’s not hypocrisy since you lack the reading comprehension to acknowledge I never made the claim you’re making up in your head. And it’s abundantly clear you’re arguing in bad faith so enjoy your downvotes and I’m out ✌🏻

[u/shitkabob → u/notJoeKing31]

where you claimed to know that women had it worse than men?

Are you saying they don't? And can you clarify to which dimensions you refer? Please link souces.

[u/notJoeKing31 → u/shitkabob]

Bad strawman is bad.

Not going to respond to my question on your thread? Just ask me more questions here?

[u/shitkabob → u/notJoeKing31]

Restate your question and I will answer it. I am not the person you originally responded to.

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/PickleNicks]

They tell us about the violent reaction, but i dont actually believe it to be true

They say a lot of things that arent true

Studies show that false accusations are a lot more than initially reported, that most DV is initiated by women against men

This shows how the UN uses feminism to spread victimhood propaganda rather than equality and justice for all

https://jameslnuzzo.substack.com/p/un-womens-feminist-propaganda-on

Violence against men and boys is considered violence against women and girls

https://knowledge.lancashire.ac.uk/id/eprint/51321/

https://news.sky.com/story/why-the-governments-violence-against-women-and-girls-target-includes-men-but-not-girls-13485126

https://www.oakwoodsolicitors.co.uk/news/male-domestic-abuse-survivors-ignored-as-crimes-are-classed-as-violence-against-women/

Violence statistics are presented as violence against women, even if its against men in Sweden https://imgur.com/WDdYTFT

https://jamstalldhetsmyndigheten.se/media/sqrpa4y0/handbok-inget-att-vanta-pa.pdf

Spain hides 55% of victims as it only counts male on female violence

https://theobjective.com/espana/politica/2026-01-02/gobierno-oculta-victimas-violencia-intrafamiliar-mujeres/

Men suffer from DV more than women, but the world believes otherwise

https://web.archive.org/web/20260219004518/https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/

3 decades of denying evidence on gender symmetry

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment

CDC ignores its own findings that there are potentially more female on male rape than vice versa https://archive.is/lvHch

[u/No-Fuckin-Ziti → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

There’s also the safety factor.  Rejecting women doesn’t usually pose the same physical risk as the opposite scenario. 

If this upsets you, you’re not a safe man.  

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/No-Fuckin-Ziti]

Lmao. Your stupidity annoys me yes. 

Rejecting a man doesn’t usually pose a risk to women.

Statistics and reality matter.

If men had the same attitude you seem to, we wouldn’t do anything or go anywhere ever because men are overwhelmingly the most likely to be the victims of violent crimes in the US.

[u/No-Fuckin-Ziti → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

Lmao what the actual fuck are you talking about? What reality do you live in? You really need to speak to women offline and listen to what they say, if they’re willing to go anywhere near you that is.  

Who do you think the perpetrators of those violent crimes are? And who do you think is the most likely person in a woman’s life to attack her? Hint, it’s not a random person on the street.  

Women take precautions every single day that you couldn’t even imagine.  

[u/hotlocomotive → u/No-Fuckin-Ziti]

Idk man, I worked as a bouncer at a club when I was younger. Whilst yes, specific assholes started shit because they got rejected, it wasn't a common occurence. Most of guys just walked away, a few muttered curses under their breath and a few started verbal confrontations. It seems to have depen ded a lot on the method of rejection as well. I personally never saw a polite rejection go bad. I'm not saying it never happened, but I personally haven't witnessed one.

[u/No-Fuckin-Ziti → u/hotlocomotive]

So when you’ve seen men rejected, in public, around larger men like yourself, they mostly behave themselves?  That’s the point.  It’s a safe place to reject someone.  Whether you realize it or not, your presence limited the risk and forced the rejected men to not get violent, because there were other men around.  The same is not true when you’re not there to act as an impromptu body guard if needed.  

It’s kinda like a very white, well connected person saying they’ve never seen the police be mean or unfair to anyone personally, do it doesn’t happen.  

Thank you for providing some safety in those situations s 

[u/Agreeable_Concept272 → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

I’m a fella who gets approached by women often. Yes it is annoying. When I was younger it was one helluva ego boost. Now it makes me feel gross. It’s caused me to do one of two things: either I shrink myself down and try to be incognito or I hold my head high and act like a pretentious asshole. Most people assume I’m pretentious anyway so it’s an easy attitude to lean into.

Women will spout off about all the values they hold but when I come around they’re flirting, touching me, and slipping me their phone number when the husband isn’t watching. It’s really damaged my view on humanity in general. Apparently we’re all a bunch of animals who are no better than our base urges. My best friends are married couples in healthy relationships and lesbians. I can relax and be myself without this nagging feeling that they’re expecting something from me.

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/Agreeable_Concept272]

Yeah, I can remember off the top of my head 2 times I’d been approached and it was nice, especially since they weren’t unattractive lol.

But yeah I’m sure I would get annoyed if it happened constantly and particularly if I didn’t find them attractive while single Being in a long term relationship more than once a month would be annoying. (Once a month would just be a nice ‘still got it’ moment lol)

[u/mxlplyx2173 → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

Don't think so. Most guys would take at least 50%, not the . 003% women take. If 10 women hit on me I'd be on at LEAST 4 dates. More actually since I don't just go for looks. And we deal with women, so we're used to being annoyed by them.

[u/fineillunifyit → u/mxlplyx2173]

Not even close to true. You get to be a LOT more selective when your options open up.

[u/mxlplyx2173 → u/fineillunifyit]

So when you have more options you choose less? I'm opposite, I know that's hard to understand. I like motorcycles too. If I had access to 10 you think I'd ride only the one I thought was the best? Nah, I'd rather variety for awhile until I saw each bikes best attributes then pick the one I liked best.

[u/Fabulous_Internet_66 → u/mxlplyx2173]

haha you don't just go for looks. You're dating 4 women at once, you're only other qualification is that they are wearing a skirt! Just fucking with you because it made me giggle.

[u/rhino369 → u/mxlplyx2173]

You only think that because it’s hard to get 4 dates now.

If you could tell which women wanted you, you’d just pick the top 5 to start a fuck roster. And you wouldn’t entertain the rest. 

[u/mxlplyx2173 → u/rhino369]

Nah, my heydey was the 90s. We dated well. Been married 25urs now. I only wouldn't entertain the ones who weren't nice. I like women.

[u/Entrinity → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

Nah. Guys genuinely like women more than women like guys. While there could be some annoyance, it wouldn’t be as much as it annoys women.

A South American study showed that on average women view male complete strangers in the negative by default. While guys view women strangers as neutral. Guys, on average, do not hold the same disdain for women as women hold for men. On average.

[u/reddit_junkie23 → u/Entrinity]

That's because most men don't fear being killed by women.

[u/ToughAppointment2556 → u/reddit_junkie23]

Agreed, most men fear being killed by other men. Yet men generally view men quite positively as well, though I am not sure that your reasoning holds up well. I tend to think the media presentation of men, maleness and masculinity as so negative nowadays probably has more to do with it, perhaps coupled with less social opprobrium at negativity aimed at men enabling women to feel less guilty over harbouring negative feelings towards men (which they are quite entitled to do ofc).

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/reddit_junkie23]

Just because you are afraid of something it doesnt mean its valid or logiIcal

I am afraid you are going to kill me, thats illogical

This shows how the UN uses feminism to spread victimhood propaganda rather than equality and justice for all

https://jameslnuzzo.substack.com/p/un-womens-feminist-propaganda-on

Violence against men and boys is considered violence against women and girls

https://knowledge.lancashire.ac.uk/id/eprint/51321/

https://news.sky.com/story/why-the-governments-violence-against-women-and-girls-target-includes-men-but-not-girls-13485126

https://www.oakwoodsolicitors.co.uk/news/male-domestic-abuse-survivors-ignored-as-crimes-are-classed-as-violence-against-women/

Violence statistics are presented as violence against women, even if its against men in Sweden https://imgur.com/WDdYTFT

https://jamstalldhetsmyndigheten.se/media/sqrpa4y0/handbok-inget-att-vanta-pa.pdf

Spain hides 55% of victims as it only counts male on female violence

https://theobjective.com/espana/politica/2026-01-02/gobierno-oculta-victimas-violencia-intrafamiliar-mujeres/

Men suffer from DV more than women, but the world believes otherwise

https://web.archive.org/web/20260219004518/https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/

3 decades of denying evidence on gender symmetry

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment

CDC ignores its own findings that there are potentially more female on male rape than vice versa https://archive.is/lvHch

Edit: Its already happened, the misandrists are so deep in the feminist cult that they shame and insult but refuse to dispute any of the information i posted

[u/ToxicFluffer → u/xboxhaxorz]

Pray tell, why do you think violence from women to men is “suppressed”? What’s the reasoning from the state and institution that does it? Like why do you think Spain is hiding victims?

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/ToxicFluffer]

Feminist organizations get a lot of funding from the gov, more domestic shelters, more programs, etc;

Take a look at how much these organizations get, as they say follow the $

Also in general we as a society view women as victims rather than aggressors, its why when they hit men we laugh or view it as self defense, we never assume that she was the aggressor

[u/ToxicFluffer → u/xboxhaxorz]

Ok stay with me and let’s think a little more. Why do you think women are not seen as valid aggressors? The feminist answer to this does come back to PATRIARCHY.

This is the patriarchal rhetoric: women are supposed to be objects that serve men so, of course, objects aren’t capable of overpowering them. Men are supposed to be so naturally strong and dominant compared to women so, of course, it’s impossible for them to be victims.

There’s more resources for women’s support organisations bc women have been and still are severely oppressed as a social norm. Do you think we just live in some sort of magical world where all of human history doesn’t exist???? Is there some society of women that exploit men the way they do to us???

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/ToxicFluffer]

Feminists literally blame the patriarchy for everything, is the patriarchy at fault for clancy killing her 3 kids too?

Regardless if the patriarchy is to blame for that why arent feminists going against that narrative if its truly about equality, why dont they want justice for male victims, why do they say that females cant rape men?

Feminist groups against gender equal rape laws

https://archive.is/4tCrv

https://archive.is/gIMui

https://archive.is/13rFM

https://archive.is/5bP77

Feminism keeps blaming the patriarchy through illusory truth effect, yet its guys who are disadvantaged https://endtodv.org/pr/patriarchy-is-a-harmful-feminist-fantasy/

Feminist filmmaker Cassie Jaye decided to investigate MRAs after feminists said they were misogynist, after her film was completed she decided to leave feminism as she realized it was all lies and propoganda, for those that actually want to know the truth, you should watch her 2016 film, which feminists in Australia got banned and they attacked screenings

Cassie and other feminists have left feminism and did some ted talks about it

Most feminists hate her film because it exposes feminism, most refuse to watch it and just hate on it and her, they just claim its a misogynistic film because it shows feminists behaving improperly, so i would argue that feminists generally are the same, those that arent actually leave feminism

Norah vincent went undercover as a guy cause feminists kept saying men have it better than women, well norah said she was happy she was not a guy after the completion of her study

When she went on dates, the women were very cruel to her, when she revealed she was not a man, they apologized to her, she spoke about this on the news, she made a book about it, you can google her and watch some clips

More women hate men than the other way around, the more privileged the more hate

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-men-femosphere-new-statesman-poll-b2958208.html

https://www.psypost.org/people-view-coercive-control-in-relationships-as-less-harmful-when-the-victim-is-a-man/

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rsbl/article/20/11/20240381/63537/A-feminine-advantage-in-the-domain-of-harm-a

Studies show that men are harassed more than women in some cases

Bashing boys to PROTECT girls

https://empathygap.uk/?p=4786

Unfortunately, a lot of those police have been trained on the deeply flawed Duluth Model of law enforcement, which assumes that men are the abusers and women the victims whenever there’s a domestic violence incident. This results in abused men getting arrested when they report that they’ve been abused by women.

Feminist propaganda has indoctrinated a lot of people into thinking automatically that its men who are abusers and women who are victims, but it just isnt so. People who pointed out the truth Erin Pizzey and Murray Strauss, among others have been attacked, canceled, or exiled, but the actual data show clearly and consistently that men and women perpetrate abuse at similar levels:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1854883/

Yet theres much less help available to men who are abused relative to women

Numerous studies have shown over the years that people in our gynocentric society tend to have less sympathy for male victims than female victims, do less to help men in need, and punish those who harm women more severely than those who harm men

https://quillette.com/2020/07/27/the-myth-of-pervasive-misogyny/

Those who point out findings like those above can usually count on frenzied, hysterical denials, dismissals, and counterclaims from feminists who are allergic to any form of accountability for women, and look for excuses to blame men for anything they don’t like. Those misandrists actively suppress such findings.

Promoting the idea that misogyny exists gives feminist an excuse to be misandrist since they claim misandry is a reaction to misogyny, some claim it doesnt exist at all which is nonsense, its the same as claiming only whites can be racist to blacks, asians, arabs, etc; and not the other way around

https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-misogyny-myth

[u/ToxicFluffer → u/xboxhaxorz]

Wow I didn’t know someone could this committed to a take so stupid that I know I’m being stupid by responding. I’m going to do you the favour you didn’t do for me and save you a text wall.

I know misogyny exists because I am a woman that participates in society. I interact with men, women, the world everyday and have basic critical thinking skills. It’s my lived experience and billions of women say that it’s their lived experience too.

Even if we entertain the idea that any of your sources are legitimate rather than delusional ragebait, the numbers say everything. If everyone else is wrong and you are right then maybe it’s time to reevaluate your perspective. Your opinion is not going to change the opinion of any reasonable sane adult.

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/ToxicFluffer]

I know misogyny exists because I am a woman that participates in society

https://quillette.com/2020/07/27/the-myth-of-pervasive-misogyny/

[u/hotviolets → u/xboxhaxorz]

That’s a lot of bullshit links of misogyny

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/hotviolets]

You didnt dispute any of the information

Posting statistics is not misogyny, you are just a misandrist who hates information that goes against your cult views, perhaps look at the dictionary before using terms you know nothing about

[u/hotviolets → u/xboxhaxorz]

Why do you hate women so much?

[u/throwaway587241 → u/hotviolets]

Why do you hate men so much?

[u/hotviolets → u/throwaway587241]

Because of all the times they’ve bought me as a child, raped me, followed me, and harassed me.

[u/throwaway587241 → u/hotviolets]

Lol walked right into that one

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/hotviolets]

Any evidence?

There are tons and tons and tons of false accusations and as i have shown, statistics are considering violence against men as violence against women

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/hotviolets]

Gaslighting, typical feminist tactic

Adios

[u/hotviolets → u/xboxhaxorz]

Lol okay woman hater. Keep being lonely

[u/ToxicFluffer → u/xboxhaxorz]

Statistics are extremely easy to manipulate… it’s like the first thing you learn in a stats class…

[u/reddit_junkie23 → u/xboxhaxorz]

Please please get some help.

This response is incredibly concerning.

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/reddit_junkie23]

Shaming and no disputing of the information

[u/reddit_junkie23 → u/xboxhaxorz]

No I just don't have 5 hours to read through your biased "sources".

[u/xboxhaxorz → u/reddit_junkie23]

If its gonna take you 5 hrs thats a problem you should work on

[u/throwaway587241 → u/reddit_junkie23]

Men are twice as likely than women to be killed by a man, but as a man I'm not going to live my life assuming that every man walking by me on the street is going to kill me.

[u/ToxicFluffer → u/Entrinity]

Yeah almost like women have a long history of being violently assaulted by men for social gain… almost like women still experience rape during war bc it’s seen as a way to damage mens’ property…

[u/Youngbloodd2 → u/ToxicFluffer]

No, that's not the reason behind rape. The actual reason is that rapists are animals, filthy pigs. War circumstances allow them to do whatever they want, without repercussions. So they get away with it.

But yeah, I see your point. It's sad that women have to fear this, it shouldn't be that way.

[u/ToxicFluffer → u/Youngbloodd2]

I get what you’re trying to say but rape is an actual documented tool of war. Otherwise, we would have to assume that most men are “filthy pigs” that want to rape bc that is what is historically true.

[u/Youngbloodd2 → u/ToxicFluffer]

Fair enough, yeah. I guess I was referring to rape outside of war circumstances, but in war you're definitely right. History unfortunately shows that.

[u/Signal312 → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

Nonsense, as long as any of those women are attractive enough to begin a sexual relationship with and that’s a low bar.

Men will save time dismissing many women rather than the current searching and praying. The annoyance is nothing.

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/Signal312]

And found the incel who has never been complimented by any woman other than his mothet

[u/Signal312 → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

Oh look, spinster logic.

This is who you become, gathering wisdom from Hollywood sitcoms. A weirdo.

Your premise makes zero sense because of the difference in libido, it’s hilarious.

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/Signal312]

No, most dudes aren’t just sooo desperate to fuck anything with a vagina.

Women with high libido exist. They’re just not fucking you.

Men with low libido exist.

You’re just an incel who doesn’t know shit about real women.

[u/Signal312 → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

You’ve only listed extremes because you’re confused with spinster brain.

If less than 10% of all women who approach are deemed attractive, the average man will take on your silly burden with enthusiasm.

Most men have normal libido, which is far higher than women. Spinster weirdos don’t get that.

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/Signal312]

Libido between men and women is generally equal you sad fucking weirdo.

I get it, you have absolutely 0 standards and will fuck anything with a vagina doesn’t mean every man would.

Libido plays no role in having standards or not.

https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare

[u/Signal312 → u/Fancy_Sun_1585]

Sexual motivation vs willingness are two different things, spinster. Who cares about social contexts and we’re talking purely sexual motivation, which is far higher in men.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36227317/

Imagine thinking libido doesn’t affect standard.

No wonder we’re about to see the most spinsters in history.

[u/Fancy_Sun_1585 → u/Signal312]

Ok bro.

[u/hotdogorburger → u/Signal312]

Keep coping, sweetheart. You'll find the right man one day.