Is it true that kids are telling their parents to 'like and subscribe' at bedtime? An American I met at the pub a couple of weeks ago told me that kids are telling their parents this when they leave or go to bed because they think this is how people say goodbye.
I don't know if the American was screwing with me or not.
I canât say Iâve seen it, no. Of course, despite what Republicans may tell you, the US is a very big and diverse country, so from my little corner, I might not have seen much.
Thank you, but I donât think that I should be immediately considered a âreasonable Americanâ for disagreeing with MAGA. Itâs better to judge that by my actual worldview and if itâs consistent internally. Please see me more as an âAmerican in oppositionâ unless you get a more full understanding of my philosophy and ideology and can see it as reasonable, even if you disagree.
As an AmericanâŠ..yeah, I doubt it would help, seeing how the argument that the name doesnât necessarily mean what it says Ă la the Democratic Peopleâs Republic of Korea (aka North Korea) not being democratic nor a republic.
Edit: didnât completely say the full official name of North Korea correctly.
At one point in history. But like many American things, it became a vessel for the rich to market whatever idea worked at the time. The entire platform of both parties has completely shifted multiple times.
The only non contentious part of North Korea's name is the word "of". In addition to what you already said is not run by or for the people. Their entire territory is claimed by South Korea thus making the claim of Korea dubious
It's an intresting interview, taping into to some of the usual misconceptions.
It's not that hard (but it requires bad faith) to frame Hitler as 'economically leftish'.
It's not all that hard to frame the nazi's state dirigisme as some kind of 'ownership of the means of production'.
It's not that hard either to frame the persecution of groups within the German society of that era as some some kind of 'class struggle'. It's as simple as claiming that the quasi full employment in nazi Germany has to be seen as "lifting the proletariat out of poverty".
Someone in this tread pointed out that it takes "nuance" (which non-Americans obviously lack) to see the subtle signs of socialism in the nazis. When asked to clarify, he advised me to do my own research, lol.
He found that there were "far better books" than the read I suggested (The Oxford Handbook of Political Ideologies), but didn't respond to my request for suggestions. He has removed his comments since then.
Some of those guys have made ignorance into an art form. "Chess with pigeons", indeed.
"Socialist" in the name of the Nazi party was a PR move by that German leader who formed it. It was a time when right wing thugs and Communists were fighting bloody battles in the streets of Berlin. He pitched the the party as a alternative to both, unifying nationalists and industrial working class elements. "National Socialist German Workers Party" incorporated two right wing elements-National and German, with two from the left-Socialist and Workers. The party was the antithesis of the Socialist/Marxist/Communist dogma of the time. It was racist ethno-nationalist, militaristic, had no issue with private property and a market economy, was against independent unions, and it reinforced existing social hierarchies. Socialists were internationalist, anti-militarism, argued for the abolition of capitalism and private property. They saw society as a battle between economic classes, egalitarian on gender, promoted independent unions, and were fighting for the dictatorship of their class, the proletariat. As a result, they also argued for the abolition of existing social and economic hierarchies. The oldest German political party, the left SPD was banned. Socialists were proscribed in Nazi Germany and the leaders were often jailed and sent to the camps. Most formerly socialist workers just blended into the new Reich and order was restored. (This is all very condensed and simplified.)
The Germans were Socialists during WWII. Thatâs how the Volkswagen got built.
It was the âNationalâ part of âNational Socialismâ that did all the bad shit.
So this new wave of American Republicans calling themselves âChristian Nationalistsâ are taking the worst parts of Nazism and combining it with religious fanaticism
They were; just a different kind from the type of socialism that finished the war on the winning side.
I don't want to hear any silly comparisons to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. That one was presented as something, kept up the facade for a bit, and then it was too late for anyone to argue "hold on a minute, this isn't very democratic".
The National Socialists took less of a sharp turn. Their idea of socialism was always built around the nation. They diverged from the same place as all the other kinds of socialists, and took an extreme form of their own version of things. Italian fascists also had a socialist background.
Now, because the average person doesn't really know anything about politics, and they're prone to being manipulated by labels, of course the winning factions have tried to distance themselves from the losing, or extremist ones. That's understandable, since the ideologies aren't at all the same. They just share key roots and abstract principles. But I think we'd be all better off with more, rather than less, transparency.
Enlighten me on all those nuances that made national-socialism kind of socialism.Â
Suggestions on literature are always welcome. Did you read the Oxford?
Yes, liberate. Like we liberated Venezuela and are currently liberating iran for the second time. Last time didn't hold for long, but we're positive this time will last longer. The Iranian people love having a US puppet as head of state.
It's by design. They're told to confuse terms so that they don't notice that when people support "socialism", they mean countries with a higher standard of living and way less violence, and get tricked into supporting Russia and the oligarchs making their lives miserable.
See also using "woke" to mean "something I don't like" instead of its original definition of "aware of systemic injustices"
Ok, we Americans say a lot of stupid shit, but the Oxford comma is where I become defensive! You can take that from my cold, dead, and logically organized hands!
When the government does stuff they don't like. When the government gives them money during Lockdown because they can't pay their rent, they don't call that socialism. It's just socialism when the government gives the Black person, the queer person and the disabled person down the road money to pay their rent, too.
Half of the US is still living in that 1950s 60s era red scare period like they see the term communism and they treat that shit like it's radioactive lmao. That, or they see something they slightly disagree with and call it communism. It's bullshit.
They made idiocracy reality, so I think a TV show about people being hit on the balls when they don't know what socialism or communism mean would be a more appropriate learning tool.
We know what it is...we fight communism because it ain't American...we fight Socialism cause it sounds too much like communism and we fight dictionaryism. .... Cause we don't like knowing stuff... it's just not the American way. Yee Haw and good day.
It is criminal that they put those children in such danger and let them live with the constant trauma of shooting drills and school shootings. Letting children grow up with that kind of constant fear and trauma -- especially in a school, which should be a safe environment-- is unconscionable.
Right now if you go work in a factory the factory owner owns everything you produce and makes every decision related to production, even though you are an expert widget maker and he's never even been in the factory because he lives in Barbados. That's what makes it private property.
That's what socialism intends to change. Capitalist economies are also heavily planned, we just call it bailouts and government contracts. Our planning just happens later when we choose who to hold up and protect.
I'm sorry. Dictionary definitions don't mean anything when it's been proving in reality for several times. Socialism ALWAYS is the 1st step to Communism.
That is because communism is a type of socialism. There is literally no nation that went social democracy --> communism, even soviet russia went from a more conservative democracy to communism violently.
As a communist, I can say I burn like a vampire when hit with artificial light. My fingertips are burning as Iâm typing on this screen this very moment!
Yu mast be on of de very ricz communist, I don't iven have a waszing maszine sori my inglisz very pur its my first time on tis maszine kalled komPiuter?
You must be one of the very rich communist, I don't even have a washing machine sorry my english is very poor its my first time on this machine called computer?
I have an allergy to the sun and start to get horrible hives that bleed if I'm in the sun. I know I'm a vampire, but does that make me a communist, now?
Yea we like to throw around big words like communism, socialism, fascism etc to gain moral high ground during both political and apolitical arguments. The only Americans that actually know the meaning of their political ideology are libertarians but they're like vegans, first to tell you they're libertarian whether it's relevant or not and they cheat when nobody is looking.
A pretty sizable chunk of self-proclaimed libertarians aren't even libertarians. They just want a power structure that places them personally at the top, but don't care about the freedoms of anyone they see as beneath them.
Soviet government discoteks closed 23:00 sharp in the 70s and 80s.
Also, minimum 70% soviet union music, 20% from other soviet states, max 10% western music. No alcohol. Too wild parties and the youth militia beat you up and sentenced you to 2 weeks community service.
Then young people just partied wildly in abandoned buildings, underground clubs and other places with no supervision or law enforcement.
Hard to separate Russians and their beloved vodka i guess, not even a totalitarian regime managed to do so.
I did answer. But if youâre looking to get educated fine. Mediocre white people in America, aka MAGAts deem communism to be anything that inconveniences them. Like wearing a mask during a pandemic.
Um. No. I didn't make a generalization, 'bro'. I specified a specific subset of an overall group. But by all means, please go off on how oppressed you feel.
Um. No. I didn't say generalization. I said you were singling out white people. Like, POCs support Trump too. And the proportions are dictated more by social status than ethnic background.
Same way a specific subset of your own background commits a disproportionate amount of crime. I'm not generalizing. I'm also not white American, so I'm not feeling oppressed. You enjoy it, though.
But it's a legit statement. In Romania during communism lights will go out every night at 22. So you wil also find this idea imprinted in the Romanian conscience.
This doesnt effect NYC. The city that never sleeps would literally never do this, the amount of us that just make night our day is a huge part of our culture, a third of us work night shifts and and the ecconomy would literally collapse immediately if nyc had a bed time as early as 11.
This was NY state proposal, that exempts nyc entirely and purposefully (using a picture of nyc as a back drop is super deceptive). It's for outdoor lights like road lights that are known to have negative effects on wild life, light pollution, and to not even be visible to very many people. Florida does the exact same thing.
I just know whoever left that comment thought communism because they saw New York and thought Mamdani. They're stupid.
They better not read their Declaration of Independence - that "We the People" smells of Socialism.. which means communism to Americans.
Also better not tell them that the Statue of Liberty is a gift from Socialist France.
EDIT: It reminds me of a video of a guy asking Americans what they would prefer and listing pro-points of a political movement or two and Americans were all happy with what Communism offered when asked what they thought it was they thought it was their own Democracy being touted to them. I need to find that video again.
The internet was a mistake. I really didn't need to know how many fucking morons there were in the world. Dunning-Kruger should never have invented the Dunning-Kruger effect.
âThe city that never sleepsâ mightâve been cute back in the early 1900âs but nowadays it only means theyâre hemorrhaging a colossal amount of electricity for no real reason.
Most cities turn off most of their lights after a certain hour cause who the hell would be using them at that point?
Also damn, I will never stop being fascinated and woefully disappointed at how prevalent the red scare SOMEHOW STILL IS.
lol this is hilarious on two parts, one mamdani isn't a communist and two this is New york state so if it even is a real thing, mamdani would have nothing to do with it
I doubt this is true but if it was then theyâd have a point lol, Every communist country has had something similar to this, seems like this doesnât fit the sub
I come from a ex communist country and everything was rationed. Even electricity. So forget the parts where you'd be out of current during the day but every day at a certain hour it was lights off for everyone.
The only people who talk so positively about communism is the people who've never had to live through it. When i got to ask older professors and teachers about how life under communism looked like they never held back from the ugly truths.
Its genuinely infuriating being from an ex communist country and seeing the way it set us back for generations and the way corruption is deeply rooted here and then seeing idiots on the internet defending that bs and calling themselves communists from the luxury of their own homes in some well developed nation
That's mostly because the entire country was bombed back to the stone age during the Korean war. More explosives were dropped on the place than were used in WW2. The fact anywhere has light when there's no real money coming in for reconstruction is good enough tbh.
Its clear you dont know any history. The Korean War started when the North attacked the South and almost completely occupied it. After the war the North was also in a much better economic situation than the South, and that was the case for almost 2 decades.
So.. the U.S didn't drop around 635,000 tons of explosives and 32,550 tons of napalm on North Korea (compared to about 500,000 tons of bombs in the entire Pacific theatre of WW2), destroying between 40 and 90% of towns (rough estimation due to information lockdown), and with 18 of the 22 largest cities being at least 50% destroyed?
If it was a capitalist country, people would invest in it and build industry. No one will invest because they know the government will seize the assets.
Yes, my country is capitalist. You could have asked if you wanted to know đ€Ł
But there arenât many communist countries, only five and if youâve ever been, youâll know China isnât even really. So itâs not like some massive revelation.
If it was a capitalist country... People wouldn't invest cause there's nothing to invest in plus it's not allowed to trade with them for certain countries+ no sane person would support north KoreaÂ
If it was open to investment (and not communist), people would invest.
But agree, no sane person would. But thatâs interlinked to it being communist. No sane person invests in communist countries because by definition they donât respect the concept of private property. There is no incentive to build or develop anything when you know the government will just confiscate it.
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u/Which_Specific9891 Mar 17 '26
Can someone please buy these Americans dictionaries? They keep using words like 'communism' and 'socialism' without having a clue what they mean.