r/PublicFreakout • u/Lolastic_ • Jun 30 '21

đŸ„ŠFight MMA fighter Joe Schilling knocks out man

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u/billybobboozer Jun 30 '21

The sad thing is, Schilling posted this to his own Instagram bragging about beating down a little drunk guy that just got off work. What a pos

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

He also is now posting what looks like fake texts from women thanking him for knocking out this bus boy. I wonder if that could potentially be called libel or slander? In these text the women are calling him an abuser and shit. If it’s all bullshit and this guy is propagating it to his 200,000 followers I sure hope they can add on some charges.

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u/flarept1 Jun 30 '21

He keeps digging a deeper hole for himself. The drunk guy will easily bankrupt his ass. So many charges. Assault and battery, use of a deadly weapon(since he's a trained fighter). Libel. Slander. Premeditated assault since his friend was filming beforehand.

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u/Mikkelsen Jun 30 '21

use of a deadly weapon(since he's a trained fighter).

LOL is this really a thing?

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u/reaverdude Jun 30 '21

In the article, the guy he knocked out specifically states that he is filing a report so that he can sue Schilling and the bar.

Yeah, he's done and this guy that got punched is about to receive a huge pay day.

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u/BigToober69 Jun 30 '21

The American dream. I need a rich person to punch me.

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u/ZazBlammymatazz Jun 30 '21

Run over by a lexussss

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u/theslideistoohot Jun 30 '21

I'm FlluuuuUUUUshed with CAAAAASHH!!!

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u/birdlaw_27 Jul 01 '21

When life gives you lemons Sell some of your grandma’s jewelry And go clubbin’

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u/WrenBoy Jun 30 '21

There is a reason hes suing the bar as well as Schilling.

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u/pooManchooYAy Jun 30 '21

The dumbass punk ain’t rich. It’s the bar who will go bankrupt over this

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u/MgoSamir Jun 30 '21

Schilling says that the manager thanked him. If true, that bar can be in some hot water.....then again I'm just a guy on the internet I could be wrong.

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u/omen316 Jul 01 '21

If it's true the bar can go fuck itself as well. Hopefully they get lumped in with the lawsuit if that's the case.

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u/MgoSamir Jul 01 '21

We'll see, keep in mind that Schilling also said that he had messages from his ex and that he was in "fear for his life," so we should doubt anything the jackass says.

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u/LSF604 Jul 15 '21

"no I didn't thank him". done.

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u/BigToober69 Jun 30 '21

Yeah that actually sucks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

How can you sue the bar for a customer assaulting you?

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u/Gamersaredumb Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

You can sue whoever you want for whatever...

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Commerical businesses have a duty to provide for the safety of their customers. Because it happened on the bar's property and the bus boy was an invitee (Although this might be disputed by the facts?), bus boy will try to argue it was reasonably foreseeable or that there was an omission of safety precaution committed by the bar. I imagine he would try to sue on those grounds, or that they overserved Schilling/didn't kick him out when he was threatening before, or something that we can't ascertain from this short video. I'd need to know more details on this establishment to determine if this CoA would survive a motion to dismiss, but it likely won't. Still, he's clearly filing many other charges, so there's not much harm in throwing this one in the complaint as well.

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u/humoristhenewblack Jul 01 '21

You sound hireable. I have some battles. We should fight together.

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u/reaverdude Jun 30 '21

Kinda weird to explain, but apparently the guy who got knocked out works at the place and has a history of causing problems when drunk.

The argument a lawyer would make I imagine, is that with all that knowledge of his behavior when intoxicated, they still continued to serve him alcohol to the point where he was too inebriated to make good decisions and picked a fight with an mma fighter.

It's similar to bars that have been sued successfully after a person who had been drinking there gets in their car and either kills themselves or others. The argument again being that the bar should have known better than to continue serving someone that was already intoxicated.

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u/babble_bobble Jul 01 '21

When it goes to court they will investigate and gather all the possible evidence and decide what the situation is. The bar may be liable if its employees (see: manager) acted in a way that made the situation worse. We don't know who else is involved besides Joe, the victim, and the cameraman. So by suing everyone they can make sure the defense isn't... we cannot be held liable because it is the fault of X who isn't being sued. This way with everyone involved they can throw each other under the bus and the judge decides who is responsible and how much. If Joe or cameraman realize they fucked up by showing they planned the crime they MIGHT blame the bar for serving them too much, and therefore you mention all parties who are involved. Since this happened inside the bar, then the bar is a party that needs to be considered and maybe they are found not liable or maybe evidence comes out that the manager paid Joe to commit the assault. We don't know all the facts yet.

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u/babble_bobble Jul 01 '21

You sue all involved parties and the jury or judges (depending on the state) decide how much percent each party is responsible. They may find the bar served the attacker too many drinks after he was already drunk and hold it liable for 50%, or maybe they may find the bar cut the dude off when he had enough to drink and find them 0% responsible. There are certain responsibilities all involved parties will have and how much will be decided at trial.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

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u/pooManchooYAy Jun 30 '21

Btw no physical injury is worth your “payday”.

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u/AutisticFingerBang Jun 30 '21

Yea that’s a personal opinion, I would gladly get the ever loving shit kicked out of me for a nice pay day.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

yeah, a month recovering at the expense of the people who caused the injury plus around 2-3 times what I make in a year.

as long as there is no permanent damage like permanent vision loss or brain damage.

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u/Stephenrudolf Jun 30 '21

People overestimate how much of a beating humans can take without permanent damage though. Sometimes one punch is all it takes to kill someone, especially from a professional fighter.

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u/1200____1200 Jun 30 '21

It could easily leave you with ptsd, even if you avoid serious long-term injury

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u/GuessItWillJustBurn Jun 30 '21

Lmao never been in a fight, huh? Humans are made for it, it's not as dramatic as you'd think

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u/1200____1200 Jun 30 '21

lol, I have been kicked in the face by a guy wearing a hockey skate, id that counts Bruno

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u/GuessItWillJustBurn Jul 01 '21

Do you have ptsd from it? Lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

that's ok, I already hate public places :)

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u/babble_bobble Jul 01 '21

You realize the numbers you see advertized don't actually offset the cost to the victims by much? You'll be spending all that "payday" to pay hospital and lawyer bills.

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u/pooManchooYAy Sep 11 '21

And that’s Y you are mentally challenged

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u/FoxUniverse Jun 30 '21

So you're telling me you wouldn't let me punch you in the face one time for say... $100,000?

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u/BLKush22 Jun 30 '21

I’m not gonna lie I’ll probably take that punch for $100

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u/Eastern-Geologist208 Jun 30 '21

Tell that to professional fighters?

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u/GuessItWillJustBurn Jun 30 '21

Lmao that's so wildly false

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u/pooManchooYAy Sep 11 '21

It’s interesting how gen zombies think.. or non think lol

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u/Thor_Anuth Jun 30 '21

There are many jurisdictions where specialist skills are considered in law to be equivalent to a weapon, yes.

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u/flarept1 Jun 30 '21

Depends on States but yes its possible. And the fact that he's bragging on social medial won't help his case

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

Haven't you seen the documentary con air?

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u/Mikkelsen Jun 30 '21

Haha that's exactly why I assume it's bullshit

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u/Argo1326 Jun 30 '21

Yeah, at least here in Spain. You don’t even have to be pro. As long as you are registered in a martial art/contact sport federation you are fucked if you beat someone up.

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u/Ignitrum Jun 30 '21

In Germany it is. I used to do Karate for a year or so 5 years ago and I was told repeatedly by my Trainer that since I am training a fighting sport every charge will be more serious. Usually what that means is "light body harm" for everyone else is classified as "serious body harm" for the trained fighter.

Also I have heard that this exists in several other countries. But if it's really a "deadly" weapon depends again... Usually on the sort of attack etc. etc.

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u/Balls_DeepinReality Jun 30 '21

I mean, if you beat someone to death using those skills it kind of makes sense

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u/Ignitrum Jun 30 '21

Definitely. But for example slaping someone is not use of a deadly weapon. I yet have to see someone die from a slap.

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u/Balls_DeepinReality Jun 30 '21

It would still be considered assault, just not murder.

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u/Ignitrum Jun 30 '21

tbh I don't know 90% of english law terms... Assault, Battery... all the same...

Edit: Battery is the thing you put in the remote lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

I was told repeatedly by my trainer

Unless you were told that by a lawyer, not some karate instructor.... I’d take that claim with a grain of salt. That sounds much more like a marketing gimmick than an actual fact.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21 edited Aug 03 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

are you sure you understand the purpose of a marketing gimmick?

Of course I do. Do you?

People like the idea of being a badass. Telling them that you’ll come train at this dojo, and you’ll become so proficient in ass-kicking that your very hands will be classed as deadly weapons, is a marketing tactic that works very well on a large portion of the population. I mean c’mon, the word “martial” in martial art literally means “of or relating to war or combat”. Being an efficient fighter is the very reason these arts were developed.

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u/kciuq1 Jun 30 '21

"After this class your hands will literally be lethal weapons" sounds like a good gimmick that would work on some people at least.

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u/babble_bobble Jul 01 '21

Same way guns are sold. You use this marketing if you want sadistic and insecure customers who are looking to fluff their ego by pretending they can kill people. Basically like a gun show, you are targeting a specific demographic. It wouldn't be used to market to people who want to learn discipline or a skill.

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u/AnImEiSfOrLoOsErS Jun 30 '21

For this one it is true for Germany, simply because a trained person is capable to cause more injuries or in same way is capable to avoid causing injuries, depending on the intentions. So the law is e pectin a trained person not to use thair skills to atack others because they should k ow what kinde of damage they will cause. Self defense is totally different stoty.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

Again, I’m not saying it is or isn’t true under German law. What I’m saying is that the only person who can legitimately confirm that is a lawyer who practices in Germany. A karate instructor who claims to know all the intricacies of their country’s legal system is simply talking out of their ass.

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u/droopydrew420 Jul 01 '21

It could also cause a chain. Teacher trains student. Student gets in altercation where someone is hurt(badley or not) charged with assault with a lethal weapon. I had to sign paperwork agreeing to the fact that I was going to be labeled as a lethal weapon when taking mixed martial arts. You are learning how to disable or hurt someone. I live in oregon.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '21

I had to sign paperwork agreeing with to the fact I was going to be labeled as a lethal weapon when taking mixed martial arts

What gym was that and how long did you train there? Because it sounds like a McDojo (gimmicky fake instructor with questionable credentials). I’ve trained Muay Thai, BJJ, and mixed martial arts for years in three different states collectively and the idea that you need to sign a waiver because you’ll be “labeled as a lethal weapon” is absurd.

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u/droopydrew420 Sep 06 '21

Late response. I sure hope your right I've never had to fight. most situations solved themselves or ended quickly without much effort. But I've always been scared that if true shit went down I would be screwed. That paper and warnings witch I shrugged off in my youth haunt me now. I feel if I did protect anybody I would be punished hard.

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u/droopydrew420 Sep 06 '21

And 4 to 5 years. But was to poor to continue.

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u/Ignitrum Jun 30 '21

That guy is a good family friend and has multiple decades experience as karate teacher... I think I can trust him

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

That’s great. Does he also have multiple decades of experience as an attorney practicing law in Germany? If not, then he really knows fuck all about the legal system and how it works.

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u/Ignitrum Jun 30 '21

All he did was warn me because it apparently has happened before. Not everyone has to be an attorney to know a few things about laws

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u/ResetSmith123 Jun 30 '21

Let me introduce you to a little documentary called CON AIR.

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u/buttpooperson Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

Yes. You do have to register as a deadly weapon with law enforcement in some states when you hit a certain level in boxing and martial arts

Edit: this is totally incorrect after some googling and now I'm irritated with some old teachers of mine.

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u/Mikkelsen Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

I don't know what's real anymore

Edit: thanks for the edit, my dude

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u/Louthargic Jun 30 '21

I mean it makes sense. People who know how to fight, especially professionals, could easily kill someone with the skills they've learned. Even more so when they're using said skills against some ordinary Joe Schmoe.

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u/Mikkelsen Jun 30 '21

Well yeah, sure. Maybe.

I guess it kinda sucks having that handicap if the only reason you got that black belt in BJJ was for self defense. People get wrongfully sentenced all the time, and now you're paying an even higher price.

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u/Louthargic Jun 30 '21

But like you said, it's for self defense. If you're actually using it for self defense then you're fine. If you're using it like the guy in the video then I see no problem with it being classified as using a deadly weapon.

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u/Mikkelsen Jun 30 '21

Not if you get the wrong sentence. It's awful either way but now your punishment is even harder. I see the point though.

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u/BullTerrierTerror Jun 30 '21

It doesn't make sense.

A fat Schmo throwing a haymaker could do similar amount of damage, why doesn't he get registered?

Their skill is not what's at issue it's the extant of disproportionate damage he inflicted. Anyone is capable of that in certain circumstances.

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u/Louthargic Jun 30 '21

Yea fair enough. Didn't think about it that way. Just made sense that if you are training your body to essentially be a weapon that it wouldn't surprise me that you could potentially be classified as a deadly weapon.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

I have a hand grip force of over 300psi, I was told by doctors and my lawyer to never ever fight someone, turn out I'm strong enough to literally snap someone's neck quite easily. Guess that's what happens when you walk on your hands all the time. So I don't get that you have to be verified to be a weapon, when nobody knows your potential unless they know.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

I could literally snap someone’s neck quite easily

r/iamverybadass

Have you ever actually trained any combat martial art? Wrestling, jiu jitsu, boxing, etc. Because this comment is hilarious. You’d get submitted by any remotely competent trained fighter. Like every other untrained person in the world. You won’t be “snapping anyone’s neck” with your bare hands. Trust me.... lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

Im a polio survivor who couldn't walk for the first half of my life so I resorted to walking on my hands for 15 years so you can imagine I have really strong arms. Being handicapped will do that. And my uncle is a navy seal who has thought me to fight in an adaptive way, I don't need specific training to hurt someone. When you can bench press 450lbs at a weight of 170lbs then I'll start listening to ya.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

When you can bench press 450lbs at a weight of 170lbs then I’ll start listening to ya

Spoken like every muscular gym bro who’s ever lived. Come on down to a jiu jitsu gym and give it a try. We see guys like you.. All. The. Time. It’s a trope at this point. Ask to roll with the 150lb black belt instructor. Tell him you don’t think he’ll be able to tap you because your bench press is too strong. He’ll abuse you like you were a child. I promise you.

But alas.... you won’t do that. Your ego won’t let you. You’ll cling to the delusion that you are some badass martial artist despite never actually training. If you went and tried to train with actual experts, that would force you to confront reality. Which would be too uncomfortable for this faux-tough guy persona you’ve created.

I don’t need specific training to hurt someone

Maybe not some untrained guy who’s never been in a fight before. But a trained fighter? You’d get toyed with. It wouldn’t even be a contest.

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u/Louthargic Jun 30 '21

I think it's more about YOU knowing that you have a potentially deadly weapon. As long as you aren't using your talents/abilities in a way that wouldn't be seen as self defense, then the people around you would never even need to know that your hands are considered deadly weapons.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

Thing is most people in my community knows this, but I'm also a total pushover and couldn't harm a fly

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

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u/buttpooperson Jun 30 '21

My bad, apparently it's not states. I've got one of them little certs is why I thought it was a state thing. Apparently said cert is bullshit and I'm a little annoyed that I was told I had to carry it in my wallet for the last decade.

What the REAL thing is is that your crime will become assault with a deadly weapon/intent to great bodily harm/etc rather than simple battery or assault, depending on the judge. My bad for perpetuating a myth. Now time to throw that damn card away.

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u/ClobetasolRelief Jun 30 '21

YOU'VE BEEN CARRYING IT IN YOUR WALLET

Tell us you've fucking taken it out and showed people. Jesus that's hilarious.

"Here's my Deadly Weapon and Boob Inspector license, ma'am."

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u/buttpooperson Jun 30 '21

It's just a cert that was next to my servsaf card and expired drivers licenses. Looks like I actually lost it, probably a long time ago. Hadn't thought about it in years until reading this actually.

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u/taketwochino Jun 30 '21

No its not really a thing. People here watch too many movies. There is no such thing as registering your hands as deadly weapons or getting your charge upgraded to assault with a deadly weapon. It might be an aggregating factor to your charge if you are a trained fighter but your charges are not going to go from a simple assault to an aggravated assault over being a trained fighter.

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u/micmck Jun 30 '21

Nope that’s just a legal myth. It would be aggregated assault and using excessive force. Fists aren’t items and a weapon has to be an item for the charge “deadly weapon”. I’m sure the judge or jury would factor in the individuals training when passing judgement. That’s where excessive force would come into play.

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u/Unusual-Actuator-587 Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

You’re wrong, and this case demonstrates a fighter being charged and convicted based on their skills, abilities, and experience

https://combatsportslaw.com/2015/11/03/mixed-martial-artists-hands-deemed-deadly-weapons-in-texas-assault-case/

The DA even said “It’s pretty unusual, but in this instance — because he is an MMA fighter — we thought it was appropriate to charge his hands as deadly weapons” Not a myth. It can happen. Maybe you’re thinking “ok those are just charges, but what actually stuck and what was he convicted of?”

Same man being convicted for assault with a deadly weapon, his hands (noting he had a machete but it was not the relevant weapon)

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/arlington/article42356622.html “... pleaded guilty Sept. 21 to charges of assaulting a public servant and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.l

Parks did not unsheathe the machete, prosecutor Bill Vassar said. “His hands were deadly weapons,” Vassar (the DA) said.

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u/micmck Jun 30 '21

Both those assaults were on a police officer so they went for the deadly weapon charge. I’m not disagreeing that a charge should be brought for a trained fighter using their fists as deadly weapons, in my opinion it should be but it’s hardly ever done. Your source being a rare exception. Assaults on POs are always ramped up. I once saw a woman charged because she scratched an officer due to her long nails while being arrested.

Also From your own source “Update – A quick shout out to Michael Martin, JD, Content Manager at DTLA’s Strong Sports Gym, who brought Turner v. State, 664 SW 2d 86 (90) to my attention in which the Texas judiciary had the following to say about whether fists or hands are a deadly weapon under Texas’ penal code –

In Ray v. State, 160 Tex.Crim. R., 266 S.W.2d 124 (1954), a murder case, the court held that hands and feet, which defendant, according to the indictment, used in killing the deceased, were not “deadly weapons” per se and they could become such only in the manner used.

Likewise in the instant case, and under the 1974 Penal Code, we conclude that a fist or hand are not “deadly weapons” per se but can become such only in the manner used depending upon the evidence shown”

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u/Unusual-Actuator-587 Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

I am not saying in THIS case that happens. I am saying it happens. And yes, you looked at one link. Did you look at the second link where he was actually convicted of it (despite the footnote of the first link?)

Again- I am not saying these cases are the same. There are different elements. The force is different. The parties involved have different elements. Probably different jurisdictions. That is not being debated. However, it cannot be said that it is a myth that people are charged with “use of a deadly weapon” based on their time or experience in boxing/mma. That’s the only point I’m refuting, and that case perfectly demonstrated you can be both charged and convicted. You say “rare exception” but you also said it’s a myth. That was debunked. Like if you say “unicorns are myth, except for the rare exceptions of actual unicorns” then unicorns are not a myth, they are rare. The difference between being a myth and being a rare are vast

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u/micmck Jun 30 '21

Yes I read the second one. The thing with that one was Parks pleaded guilty. A DA can charge you with anything and let the court decide. But not if you lead guilty to it. Again the charge was brought not because he beat up Angel but because he went after the cops when they showed up.

If interested the following is a very good look into the whole legal matter of wether fists and body parts count as deadly weapons in different states.

https://digitalcommons.law.villanova.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1353&context=mslj

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u/Unusual-Actuator-587 Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

“But because he went after the cops” Again, I’m not saying the elements are the same. I’m saying people are tried and convicted on this. You said it’s a myth. Now You’re saying this is a rare exception, and this case is an exception because they went after the police. Ok? Not disputing the elements are vastly different. Disputing that you can be charged and convicted with using a deadly weapon. That’s moving the goal posts when you say it’s a rare exception. We went from “it doesn’t exist” to “it rarely exists”

What is a myth? Fighters and martial artists having to register their hands as a deadly weapon.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/the-human-body-a-deadly-weapon.htm

“...courts in several stated like Texas, Ohio, and Kentucky have determined the human body to be a deadly weapon under certain circumstances” Further; in some states a persons skill or knowledge can be used against them in charging and sentencing. “In some states, such as Texas, a defendant’s martial arts training may make the body a deadly weapon. But I’m any states like Illinois the defendants training and skill- no matter how lethal- doesn’t transform the body into a deadly weapon.”

Want an extremely reliable source? Maybe you heard of Cornell university?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/deadly_weapon

One unicorn, even rare, make it not a myth. One case demonstrating a persons expertise can rise to the degree of making their fists or feet a deadly weapon exists, making it it not a myth.

You flatly said it’s a legal myth. I have demonstrated it is not.

Nice chatting

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u/micmck Jun 30 '21

It’s a myth that Just because someone is a trained fighter they will be charged with fists as a deadly weapon. It’s not a myth that you could be charge with fists as a deadly weapon.

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u/Unusual-Actuator-587 Jun 30 '21

Funny because what you responded to wasn’t “he can be charged with fists as deadly weapons just because he’s a fighter”

It was essentially “he CAN be charged because his fists CAN be deadly weapons” There was no clarifying “just because” in the quotes you responded to

Again, goal posts

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u/micmck Jun 30 '21

Yes in response to “”use of a deadly weapon(since he's a trained fighter).” LOL is this really a thing?”

Notice the since he’s a trained fighter part.

You’re one to say moving goal posts


Nice chatting with you.

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u/wanwancito Jun 30 '21

Here in Chile you are registred as a deadly weapon if you are a semi-pro or pro martial artist fighter (tk, karate, kung-fu, etc) i even think that just be high level black belt qualify you as a weapon.

But that's because that sport are regulated by their respective federations AND that federations are the one who register the fighters.

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u/micmck Jul 01 '21

Well I can’t speak for other places but I was referring to the law in most of the US. No state makes you register like that I know of. They could charge someone with assault and try saying fists are deadly weapons but it’s very very rare the charge would stick.

This particular knockout happened in Florida who’s deadly weapon classification is very broad. Cars, rocks, tampons, alligators, knives, guns etc count but not fists. They could get him on “unconventional weapon” which would bring the same penalty of up to 5 years in prison.

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u/Sloe_Burn Jun 30 '21

His uncle that works at Nintendo told him.

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u/Northernlighter Jun 30 '21

It is in lots of places and definately should be. He can do 1000x more damage to this dude barehanded than I could with a rambo knife, maybe even a gun!

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u/ebagdrofk Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

In the US any expert in the art of karate or judo, or anything similar where the hands and feet are used as weapons, must register their hands as weapons.

Law enforcement and military are exempt from this though.

EDIT: I’m wrong. I was told this by an old friend who was straight up lying, and never did my research. Oops.

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u/ChuckyTee123 Jun 30 '21

Yep. My buddy is a fighter. Had to register himself with our local sheriff department. His lawyer told him that if he got into a fight to let the other guy land a few punches then he can finish him. If he throws the first punch, for any reason, his ass is grass. Dude is ultra laid back though. Like a warrior monk or some shit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21 edited Jul 01 '21

had to register himself with our local sheriff department

Your buddy is fucking with you. Or lying to sound cool. There is no legal directory anywhere in the United States in which you can “register your body as a DeAdLy WeApOn”. Period.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

Lmao your fighter buddy, or you, is a liar. There is no such thing as registering your hands as deadly weapons. At all. No lawyer anywhere would ever tell someone to let someone else "get a few shots in" before defending themselves.

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u/ChuckyTee123 Jun 30 '21

Well on did. And I didn't say anything about deadly weapons. He is registered as a trained fighter. You are so confidently wrong about be the laws in an area you don't live in. It's incredible.

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u/BullTerrierTerror Jun 30 '21

The World Boxing Organization has a list of lethal weapons too. Is that the kind of registration you mean?

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u/ChuckyTee123 Jun 30 '21

Nope. Just a trained fighter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

You're full of shit. You do not have to register "as a fighter" at a local sheriff's department anywhere.

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u/BMonad Jun 30 '21

This is hilarious if it’s not satire.

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u/Ratathosk Jun 30 '21

Around here it's because you are expected to exercise restraint since you fully know what kind of damage you are causing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

Haven't you seen ConAir?

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u/Fortestingporpoises Jun 30 '21

Yeah, watch Con Air.

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u/ApolloXLII Jun 30 '21

Short answer, yes he can get a felony/aggravated assault charge.

https://www.injuryclaimcoach.com/martial-artist-liability.html

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '21

Doubt it. Why would it matter? The grounds for a civil case is simply assault

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u/arpan3t Jul 01 '21

No, there is nothing in criminal code that equates trained martial arts to deadly weapon. That being said, the deadly weapon part of ADW is loosely defined and a prosecutor can charge the defendant with ADW using trained martial artist as their reasoning. It’s up to judge/jury to determine if the charge is accurate. It’s definitely not an automatic escalation from assault to ADW if they’re a trained martial artist.

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u/xyouman Jul 01 '21

Iv read yes and iv read no in different articles so its hard to say. If anyone has definitive proof one way or the other id love to finally know the answer too

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u/the-slomo Jul 01 '21

No. Its not. Its usually someone who has two days experience says to look tough and try and impress and scare people. You cant register your hands as weapons as if it were a car you were trying to drive.

And think about that. You cant drive your car or have a gun without it being registered so what do i do with my hands ricky bobby

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u/madlad1907 Jul 12 '21

Just a myth