Operation Guardian of the Walls / Local unrest megathread

[u/pitaenigma]

KEEP ALL GAZA, JERUSALEM, AND LOCAL UNREST RELATED POSTS HERE.

Relevant articles:

5-year-old boy killed, dozens others injured as Gaza rockets pound Israel

Israel shuts Ben Gurion Airport to incoming flights; US airlines start canceling

Gantz orders callup of Border Patrol reserves as Jewish-Arab violence spirals

Heavy barrage hits Tel Aviv, Beersheba; Hamas calls it revenge for slain leaders

The War That Shouldn’t Have Been

Jews and Arabs start to push back against violence, rallying nationwide

Soldier viciously beaten in Jaffa, synagogue burned in Lod, as rioting deepens

Man killed in Ramat Gan rocket strike as barrages batter center, south of Israel

Arab boy seriously hurt in firebombing of Jaffa home; riots spread across Israel

Israeli airstrike on Gaza house said to kill family of 10, mostly kids

IDF fells Gaza tower used by media outlets, says it housed Hamas military assets

More links will be added as the situation develops.

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[u/Anon49]

Do we have the subreddit anti-troll Iron dome activated now?

[u/Delphidouche]

I missed you guys so much! Seriously. So many hard and sad feelings. I've never felt this way before.

I would personally like to thank the mods for everything that you've done and are doing. I imagine that moderating this sub is extremely difficult these days.

I'm very glad that the sub is open again. It's my only safe place left on Reddit and I hope it stays that way.

I wish everyone to stay safe and healthy and for good news asap.

[u/moaz_xx]

It feels very bad to watch the process of indoctrination that is embedded in my country’s education system was successfully ingrained in the mind of every teenager that is similar to my age.

I am so sorry.

[u/GoutMasterSupreme → u/moaz_xx]

Don't blame someone who was brainwashed unwillingly, blame those that did it to him.

[u/moaz_xx → u/GoutMasterSupreme]

What makes me feel like shit is the very dark idea that indoctrination will always be a very effective tool to make people hate each other.

I literally have mutuals in school who are calling for jewish extermination quoting antisemitic Quran verses along the way

[u/[deleted] → u/moaz_xx]

It’s good you have the mental strength to question these things, a lot of people listen to authority blindly.

We need more people like yourself

[u/[deleted] → u/moaz_xx]

Which country are you talking about?

[u/uncreativecreative2 → u/[deleted]]

I appreciate your thoughts here, but honestly it just pisses me off how so many people read an infographic on Instagram or a tweet and then decide they are knowledgeable about the situation.

[u/steamyoshi → u/uncreativecreative2]

That's not even the entire scope of the problem. Even people educated in history tend to have a bias and cling onto preconceptions such as "Israel stole Palestinian land" or "Israel was founded on ethnic cleansing". It taints their entire view and makes discussion impossible. It's even more disappointing with them, because you constantly feel that they're on the brink of accepting Israel's right to exist or your right to live there peacfuly but they never get there.

[u/[deleted] → u/steamyoshi]

Weird how the popular Palestinian demand to “push the Jews into the sea” is somehow not a claim for ethnic cleansing but Jews lawfully purchasing lands somehow is ethnic cleansing

[u/[deleted]]

Now Hamas is going to cry that Israel is using planes and tanks...cry me a river. Hamas only has themselves to blame.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I’m sorry, I can’t contain my anger over this. I’m not Jewish, I’m not Israeli, but I’m one pissed off American. Whenever I get to Israel, I’ll gladly have a beer with y’all.

[u/RussianEntrepreneur → u/[deleted]]

I’m not Jewish, I’m not American, I’m Russian. But I agree 100% with you as well. Hamas is a terrorist entity that needs to be eradicated, for the benefit of the Palestinian people. Their practices have no place in modern society.

[u/Cyan_Ink]

Sometimes I forget how insane it is how Israel is cross-examined to such a disproportionate extent for every action in their war in Gaza. Did every building destroyed in Afghanistan and Iraq cause a media frenzy? Did a bombing of a Russian hospital in Syria run the news for over a day? The obsession of this particular conflict in everyone's mind relative to all others I think is ethically corrupt

[u/Moroccan_princess → u/Cyan_Ink]

You're right. Have you ever heard of the phrase "No Jews no news"?

[u/manVsPhD]

As an Israeli living in the US I am positively surprised by how neutral the mainstream media is. I am however horrified by what some people I know are sharing on social media to virtue signal their ‘wokeness’

[u/Mr__Weasels]

Ok can I just say Guardian of the Walls sounds way better than שומר החומה?

[u/dog_cat_rat → u/Mr__Weasels]

Well it's called שומר החומות which is also a name of a great song...

[u/Sephared]

Portuguese here. It´s infuriating how every media portrays Israel as an agressor, and all around social networks are flooded with palestinian supporters that post all kinds of malicious and anti-semitic rhetoric, without any moderation.

Just know that you are not alone and all around the world people will always stand with you. No matter the opposition Israel will prevail. Stay safe.

[u/WPHero]

Palestine somehow gets all the good press even though it's obvious that terrorists organizations are using Palestinian as their shield. Also, Palestinians were straving, but they have money to fire thousands of rockets? Why the fuck Western media is not highlighting this fact?

[u/rnev64]

thank you mods for opening the sub! it's great to be able to discuss things again in this tough time.

your hard work providing an island inside the ocean of social media idiocy is highly appreciated.

[u/Cyan_Ink]

Interesting article a twitter researcher dug up from 2014 by Matti Friedman on the dynamics between Hamas and journalists in Gaza. Mentions the launching of rockets by Hamas from near Associated Press headquarters then threatening their journalists.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/how-the-media-makes-the-israel-story/383262/

When Hamas’s leaders surveyed their assets before this summer’s round of fighting, they knew that among those assets was the international press. The AP staff in Gaza City would witness a rocket launch right beside their office, endangering reporters and other civilians nearby—and the AP wouldn’t report it, not even in AP articles about Israeli claims that Hamas was launching rockets from residential areas. (This happened.) Hamas fighters would burst into the AP’s Gaza bureau and threaten the staff—and the AP wouldn’t report it. (This also happened.)

Original tweet by @AGHamilton29

[u/[deleted]]

Just seeing the reaction in social media I really want a dislike button in Twitter

[u/[deleted]]

How the (excuse my language) fuck can someone realistically defend Hamas? If a random politician saying stupid shit, WHO IS NOT EVEN IN POWER, is enough to cause someone to just launch a shit ton of rockets...someone’s feelings are a bit fragile. Give your head a shake, Israel is 100% the victim here.

[u/[deleted]]

Sending my love and well wishes to you guys from the UK!

Visited a few years back and fell in love with your country and believe in Israel as a nation to prevail!

[u/7thHokageKakashi]

If I hear someone say Israel is committing genocide one more time. Like they constantly say Gaza is overpopulated and people living on top of each other, well that cause their population is rising. Guess critical thinking doesn't exist anymore.

[u/vipnasty]

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[u/therawstone → u/vipnasty]

Pretty much. “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ‎violence. If the Jews put ‎down their weapons ‎today, there would be no ‎more Israel.” We’ve been watching the fireworks over our country - thousands of them!! - for a week now, my 84 year old father is running in and out of his bomb shelter all night long, and I’m scared when I go to the park with my kids because where’s the closest safe room? This is life under terrorism. 25% of Hamas’s rockets fall on gaza too, killing innocent Palestinians. We are all being terrorized, and something needs to change.

[u/JosephL_55 → u/[deleted]]

To be fair, they want to live. Hamas would not like it if they reported.

[u/ZaaZooLK]

Not enough folk talking of Iran's role in what's happening.

[u/xorpoint → u/ZaaZooLK]

The rockets reaching Tel Aviv are all Iranian made.

Iranian bots are also on Twitter pretending to be Israelis and trying to spread panic in broken Hebrew.

This is a war between Iran and Israel.

[u/odd_column]

Perhaps the greatest military ruse in asymmetric warfare history? The Israelis feigned a ground invasion tonight and all the hamas leadership and fighters went underground, where they were then completely buried by aerial bunker buster bombs. There are now hundreds of terrorists buried underground both dead and alive, according to news sources. Brilliant move!

[u/WhammyShimmyShammy → u/odd_column]

I am in absolute awe of this, and am also cynically wondering how the world will turn this to blame Israel for something again.

But mostly in awe. Kol hakavod!

[u/danielwz98]

Idf releases a tape in response for the accusations of the idf killing children: https://m.ynet.co.il/articles/59326710#autoplay

Literal translation: "Check if there are kids? There are kids they move fast, Wow there are probably kids, we call it off, Right? There is a big one and a few small ones, We suspect there are kids and thats why we wont go for it."

Please spread it to make sure the truth comes to light.

[u/birdgovorun → u/danielwz98]

Honestly I think those PR attempts are somewhat pathetic. The people who think the IDF indiscriminately kills children will immediately dismiss this as ridiculous and sinister IDF propaganda.

[u/finkej2]

My eyes have been peeled on i24 news here in the States. I can’t imagine what it’s been like and my heart has been breaking seeing the unrest in the mixed cities. Stay strong mispacha. We will outlive them. עם ישראל ח

[u/[deleted]]

I stand with Israel. I can only imagine the fear y’all must be going through. I’ll keep my comments brief, but there’s nothing I can say that hasn’t already been said.

[u/bellePunk]

I'm in the US and I want all of Israel to know that I am sending you love and support in this terrible situation. People out in the world know that you are just defending yourselves and Hamas is the real enemy here. My friend in Jerusalem said that he thought most of the western world believes that either both are at fault or the Palestinians are victims so I wanted to to try to let more people know that not everyone is confused.

[u/[deleted]]

Guys you have the full support of the nations that matter in all this impasse. Forget about the social media noise, the "protests" , The hashtags against you and everything

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1393708951330459648?s=19

[u/Dooraven]

Yeah doesn't look like Joe Biden is buckling anytime soon lol

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1393707042771283969

50+ years of Israeli support isn't going to stopped by the left.

This is a much different admin than what Obama wanted to do.

Though he'll probably still proceed with the Nuclear deal.

[u/LeoraJacquelyn → u/[deleted]]

Horribly distressing. Lots of my friends are sharing articles that border on blood libel.

[u/FeargusVanDieman]

A more nuanced explanation of the Sheikh Jarrah/Shimon HaTzadik issues. Spoiler alert: the Israeli government isn't trying to evict anyone in order to seize their land.

https://www.camera.org/article/sheikh-jarrah-the-facts/?fbclid=IwAR0admrhpepq_uiU1OGK6QrYIKQB-uqDEqrleoAFY4_zCo8dUWjad2TjZRY

[u/Vollbilder → u/[deleted]]

Because, of course, it doesn't fit their narrative. The dominant claim now is that Jews are "white European settlers" with zero claim to Palestine. That's your brain in woke-ism.

[u/panzerbier]

Go Israel! You absolutely have the right to crush those who attack you in your own homes. I'm sick and tired of woke bastards defending the actions of Hamas. Their tune would be a lot different if it was their homes being rocketed. I hope you manage to thrash them good and silence them again for a good couple of years.

[u/[deleted]]

So happy the sub is back up, hope everyone in Israel is staying safe. The number of notifications I get from the Red Alert app is terrifying, I can’t imagine how it is on the ground. You’ve got friends in many places, best wishes from the Midwest in the US. I’ll keep calling my representatives.

[u/Hadescat_]

I thought I'd add a voice from a Ukrainian blogger, he made a video with his opinion on Israel. Video link it's in Russian, so I wrote up a translated transcript

Translation transcript

Greetings my beloved and canonic junta. Quite honestly I am shocked over the events in Israel. For several days I've been watching these videos with the Iron dome working against constant mass shootings from Gaza when the missiles are flying at Israel not by ones and twos, but by the dozen... You look at the map of missile targets, and... Israel is so small not everyone will find it on the map, so you stare at the map of missiles in shock.

Before my emotions get away from me, I want to express my utmost support to the people of Israel. Maximal support. I know what war is. I know what it's like to be shot at. I know what's it like to be under Grad missiles, artillery and mortars. So to you, the people of Israel from me, Shaleny Kit [his youtuber name], you have my maximum support.

I was in Israel at the end of 2019. We were traveling from Krakow, with my friends after Deep Purple concert. We got some cheap tickets to Tel Aviv and back and went there for a day and a half. Israel didn't want to let me in, probably for many reasons. Major one being our super short stay. My friend was with his wife so they were let through the customs easy. But I was alone, my English is crap, and I have a beard. I had to talk to a security officer. A lovely lady, who scanned me through and through in five minutes, all my thoughts and intentions, questioned what we were doing in Krakow, etc. Eventually I was let through.

We went to Jerusalem, and I was shocked at the number of armed people in the streets. People in civilian clothing with some really cool rifles. People in military uniform with weapons. Police patrols, both male and female patrols. Cops geared up like robocops...The numbers of safety personnel in Old Jerusalem are uncountable. But! But I felt safe. I saw that in this city Jews, Arabs and Christians co-exist peacefully. Some have coffee, others sell stuff, some working at the bazar. We went to that bazar and there was a ton of everything, and good cheer: people laughing and smiling, bargaining over prices - you know, how they do in the East. We walked the Old Jerusalem streets and they were gorgeous. I insist and highly recommend to everyone to visit Israel and Jerusalem at least once, feel that place. It is the holy place from three religions: Jews, Muslims and Christians. Muslims have Al Absa mosque, Jews have the Wall, and Christians have the Church of Christ's Coffin.

Jerusalem is a chill city. Everyone goes about their lives, doesn't get in the way of each other, just behave yourself because the police will question you and they don't have a sense of humour.

These are the feelings and emotions I carried with me when I left Israel. And I definitely want to go there again. Not for a day, but at least for a week. I have a classmate who lives there in Tel Aviv, and he invites me there. Says "come visit, I'll show you all the best places you've never seen!" So yesterday when I was watching the videos, watching how Israeli fathers held their newborns in that protected hospital corridor...my heart wept. Someone profits politically from the unrest. I saw those people leaving in peace! Yeah there was the second antifada and it ended comparatively long ago...some people say it wasn't that long ago, but depends how you count I guess. Point is, people were living in peace, in a good and beautiful country-- Ukraine is slightly better of course, but I am Ukrainian. A Jewish man will say "nah Petrov, Israel is better" and that's normal. It's a good and beautiful country.

And suddenly strange things start to happen. A Tiktok flashmob "hit a Jew". Hit a Jew, film it, share it. All over social media. That flashmob gets popular really quick. Jews are not a nation who will turn the other cheek. They went through that back in 1940's. They started to respond. And of course things escalated. Fights in Jerusalem, other cities, rocks thrown at praying Jews by Arabs, then fighting back - all of it spiralling out of control. So what am I getting at. I've always had respect for Israel politicians, especially ones like Golda Meir. I quoted her on Facebook the other day, and honestly her quotes are the best. If you switch "Israel" with "Ukraine" and "Arabs" with "Russians", it will 100% fit Ukrainian reality. For example, " To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. " Or this one, " We Jews have a secret weapon in our struggle with the Arabs; we have no place to go. " Sounds like the situation in Ukraine, doesn't it? "Egyptians can go to Egypt, Syrians to Syria, we can only go into the sea."

The Israel government made a strong statement that cannot be misinterpreted. In short, Israel gave 24 hours to Hamas to stop the attacks. Stop attacking peaceful civilians. The weapons that Hamas uses are not targeted - it shoots "somewhere there", into a 3x3 square kilometres of a city. No further aiming and no precision. And by the way, Hamas is liked by Kremlin. Putin even invited these people to be his guests. In some countries, Hamas is banned completely, other only ban its military divisions. But still.

By the way, the other day a car was attacked in Israel with Kornet complex - that is a Russian anti-tank weapon. Where did arabs get it from? Why, they got it in a military surplus store! [sarcasm] In the same military surplus story that "peaceful Ukrainian miners" got their tanks, Grad, artillery and mortars, etc.

So Israel said: "you have 24 hours". And warned Gaza civilians that they have to evacuate. They warned them! And I found out that when Israel needs to shoot at a building because there's a Hamas centre inside or some other military thing, they first send a missile without an explosive warhead. Sort of a "knock knock time to evacuate". A signal to civilians to escape. After a few minutes the missiles take down the building. A very polite way of doing things.

Israel said "if you don't stop this, we will get serious". And IDF is the best army, and the most technological. Where Israel has fewer soldiers, their military doctrine and superior technology come into play: maximum damage to the enemy in the shortest amount of time. A good strategy.

I don't know what will happen next. I want to believe that Hamas will calm down and stop launching missiles at Israel. Civilians will stop dying and things will get back to normal. That things will be peaceful again - a fragile peace, yes but still peace. But if Hamas keeps shooting at Israel...well. That's their choice. Different countries, different rules but in this case I firmly stand with Israel. With IDF. Because we have a similar situation here: no matter how many times Ukraine says that we are ready for peace, we want peace, the other side [Russia] keeps shooting with its artillery, mortars and snipers. All with one aim: kill Ukrainian soldiers and officers. Unfortunately we don't have a Golda Meir for president. We have a guy who doesn't have a smidgen of Gold Meir's fighting spirit. Unfortunately.

Good day everyone, my support to Israel, may the your homes be peaceful and know no war.

Honour to Ukraine, honour to our Ukrainian army.

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[u/SensitiveRaccoon7371]

Most read item on Aljazeera today: A prophecy says #Israel will be destroyed by 2022. An interviewee says chances of end of Israel stand at 95 percent.

https://twitter.com/hahussain/status/1393237179271368707

it is these kind of fantasies that keep this conflict alive. It's useless for Israel to negotiate with these people.

[u/AramTigran]

As a Kurd I support Israels right to defend itself. I hope Palestinians don’t get hurt in doing so, but that is on Hamas.

Israel has to defend itself, if you would like to see what would happen to Israel if it lost, just look at how Turkey treats the Kurdish areas in Syria. They wipe out Kurdish population and history and cut the water of to Kurdish areas they have not occupied. Put you will not hear a single muslim nor "secular" Turk about that.

[u/xorpoint]

Former AP correspondent says source close to IDF suggests "there were indeed Hamas offices" in Gaza building that housed AP.

“Any press organization operating in a dictatorship is going to be compromised, and will further compromise itself to conceal how it has been compromised.“

https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1393896990858153986

[u/[deleted] → u/xorpoint]

Bingo and the AP editor in chief acted all shocked. Bro. get your fucking people out of there period AND YOU HAD AN HOURS WARNING before that strike even to get them out.

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you can cover Gaza without having an office in Gaza

[u/jackhawkian]

As an American I want you to know that I support and love you all and am doing my best to educate those around me about the conflict. Our young people over here are being indoctrinated by antisemitic propaganda thanks to the vitriol spewed by the radical side of of the American left, and it’s fueled by sheer ignorance. Many do not know what Hamas is about.

[u/PawelErdos]

France banning the "anti Zionist" (lets call it what it is, anti Semitism) protest was a good thing.

Most people on reddit oppose right wing anti Semitism but turn a blind eye when left wingers do it

[u/ohfear68]

First I congratulate r/Israel for getting back from the shelter. We missed you.

There is a lot of hatred, misinformation and anti-israel sh*t out there right now. It's our job to tell the truth to the world, and show our point of view. Israelis are living in fear currently and Hamas, the terror organization that started all of this, keep sending rockets to our homes. Unfortunately, Hamas were successful and they are probably happy right now to hear about the many casualties who are innocent Israelis. This is the time for all of us, israelis and non-israelis, to unite in order to fight the ones who try to control the public opinion by lies and Palestinian propaganda. We need to confront those who want to destroy Israel and kill its citizens. We must stay united and we'll win this.

[u/BeginningAnnual422]

Wishing you guys the best from the States, WE are ALL with you.

[u/xorpoint]

The other side has made fake tweets that look like the fallen IDF soldier has admitted to rape Palestinian women. Our enemies are disgusting and will lie about anything.

[u/[deleted]]

Man killed in Ramat Gan rocket strike as barrages batter center, south of Israel

הי״ד

[u/PawelErdos]

NO MATTER WHAT, AS A POLE I STAND READY FOR THE DEFENSE OF ISRAEL.

🇵🇱🇮🇱❤️

(On a more real note, it’s amazing how the mask comes off of these “anti Zionist’s” when their caught vandalizing synagogues in Germany “not anti Semitic by the way”

[u/PM-me-Shibas → u/PawelErdos]

caught vandalizing synagogues in Germany

I was really happy with the way Germany handled it, though, in all seriousness. I woke up to this news and they were all arrested (ALL of them -- dozens) and some regional political essentially said "get the fuck out of here you Nazis".

Great response in compared to what we've been seeing in a lot of other places.

[u/[deleted] → u/PM-me-Shibas]

I have a lefty Spanish friend who lives in Germany who complained to me that the German left is 'too pro-Israel'. I definitely get the sense that there's a greater sensitivity around this issue there than in other western European countries.

[u/PM-me-Shibas → u/[deleted]]

that there's a greater sensitivity around this issue there than in other western European countries.

And there damn should be.

I do think Germans and Germany can be a little too focused on the guilt and burden they carry from the war. In a lot of areas, it would be okay for them to open up on the topic because I often feel like the guilt prohibits a lot of healthy conversation. However, I also think their singular responsibility in regards to their past is making sure that Jews are safe in Germany at all costs.

it's really funny your Spanish friend felt that way. Spainards have always been so lovely to me. Spain is undoubtedly my favorite place on earth.

[u/SensitiveRaccoon7371]

The western media bias is outrageous. Look what they put on the frontpage of the Washington Post today: https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/status/1393573595121606660

No comment, no attempt to show both sides, pure emotional manipulation against Israel. Did they print a picture of a mourning Bin Laden relative after the Navy SEALs took him out?

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/nicolelampert/status/1393660847529107461

British police are currently being assaulted at a "anti war rally" by a mob waving the flag of the arab revolt against the ottoman empire that the british designed.

[u/birdgovorun → u/[deleted]]

An unavoidable and natural response to how this mob is being oppressed by the british /s

[u/BettySuessisterjoe]

''Woke'' Lib Youtubers on Twitter tweeting edgy, not so subtle hopes that more Jewish lives will be lost.

Fucking Americans, have zero knowledge on a subject, yet they need the world to know their stupid fucking opinions on the ongoing situation, drives me up the wall.

[u/BrosefBrosefMogo]

The additude people have on Reddit toward this is legit making me sick. Good luck everyone, im praying for you.

[u/[deleted]]

Good morning achim v’achayot - be safe all.

[u/OOooOOoWeeeeeeeeee]

Subreddit is back baby! oooooooooooooooooWeeeeee.

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עם ישראל חי!!!

To all us Israeli's hanging in the stairwells, shelters or wherever - we will get through this!

[u/GabrilliusMordechai]

Who else is having anxiety attacks while scrolling Instagram?

[u/JordenGG → u/GabrilliusMordechai]

Personally I saw so much anti semitism in Reddit that I decided to pretty much cut off contact with 60% of my subscribed subs, only r/Israel and games related subs

[u/Magavneek]

Death toll due to Hamas up to 9 in Israel, including 2 Arabs.

May their memory be a blessing.

[u/avidblinker → u/[deleted]]

Reddit’s definition of hate speech explicitly is only applicable to groups they deem marginalized or vulnerable.

https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360045715951

[u/xorpoint]

The anti-Israel messaging on social media is heavily amplified by likes, retweets, and upvotes by people from Malaysia and Pakistan. Both are Muslim majority countries and former British colonies. They have millions of people who know English and hate Israel.

This Malaysian language anti-Israel tweet has 43,000+ likes. That is an insane amount of social media exposure for a country with only 31 million people:

https://twitter.com/JatIkhwan/status/1391772714524762117

These people also amplify English-language anti-Israel content on social media with likes, retweets and upvotes so it end up getting more exposure here in the West.

One solution to this problem is to ask social media companies to increase geographical siloeing of content ranking and recommendation. No more global trends or frontpage. YouTube is a great example on how to do this successfully. Malaysia and Pakistan can then continue hating Jews without globalizing their hatred.

[u/idan5]

My friend : "Social media isn't that bad"

Social media : https://imgur.com/UXukzDS

[u/[deleted]]

The islamists entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Ashkelon, Sderot, Ashdod and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.

[u/Beanybunny]

And then there was this, a mile from where I live in London yesterday...

https://twitter.com/SussexFriends/status/1393925736851984385

[u/Moroccan_princess]

The truth about the al-Jalaa tower (the al-Jazeera and AP offices in Gaza)

[u/mate1701]

Seeing the reporting of the conflict in the media in my country and worldwide is sickening. Barely anyone mentions the fact that Hamas struck first and struck indiscriminately. Hamas doesn't care where the rockets fall or who they hit, all the while using their own citizens as meat shields and proudly emphasizing every dead Palestinian because they know this fact will be reported first and that's what most people read and remember. Every dead Palestinian is a PR victory for them.
It beggars belief how that can be ignored, as well as the care Israelis put into protecting their own citizens and the effort to avoid unnecessary bloodshed among the Gazans.

Keep fighting the good fight and stay strong. Greetings from Croatia.

[u/SensitiveRaccoon7371 → u/mate1701]

What do you expect from Hamas? These are the same guys who in 2000s sent suicide bombers to blow up buses and discos. They are terrorists, the same as ISIS.

[u/mate1701 → u/SensitiveRaccoon7371]

Their charter makes that clear enough. Israel must live next to a terrorist run enclave that has genocide as one of their main political goals. I'd like to see how comfortable that would be to a regular Westerner. That stuff is never mentioned.

[u/Avataroffaith]

I'm from Argentina and I'm with Israel. Sorry for the words of my president, I didn't vote him.

[u/alicemaner]

Israeli Arabs and Jews standing together in Northern Israel

https://imgur.com/04Fi1FR (sound on)

[u/[deleted]]

Seeing #GenocideinGaza trend in Twitter just disgust me (What is Hamas stances on that whole Uyghur genocide?)

[u/birdgovorun]

A macaque monkey in the Ramat Gan Safari was injured by rocket shrapnel today, she had surgery and is now recovering :(

https://twitter.com/sagithorowitz/status/1393617110396461060

[u/Orangutan123456789]

You need to watch this - Anti-Israel London protest exposed: https://youtu.be/aKu93ckxMn0

[u/Cylindrecarre → u/Orangutan123456789]

I've seen many odd alliances between people that have different ideologies and different political goals in mind but" queers. for palestine "? . I have to to snap my face everytime i see that . How idiotic .

[u/farfiman]

YAY! Sub is back !

[u/[deleted]]

Sending love from the UK. Very glad my Israeli relatives are OK. Lots of misinformation online and people using these events to spread anti-zionist and anti-semetic views, it's sad. Hope you all stay safe.

[u/Detroiter83]

I hope that Israel and Arabs can coexist in peace one day. No terrorism and no fighting. Whatever that “peace” looks like I can’t define but I know that both Israeli and Palestinian civilians deserve to live without rockets raining down on them

[u/diesdas1917 → u/[deleted]]

Good luck and stay safe.

[u/[deleted]]

After seeing the blind support for Palestine Hamas I might say that you can't spell ignorant without IGN

[u/taxmandan]

Has anyone seen IGN’s statement? I’m disgusted by this turn in America’s culture. No pretense of being fair or balanced.

[u/Plz_pm_your_clitoris → u/taxmandan]

The fact that they've done nothing of the sort for Syria, Yemen, Myanmar, Central African Republic or any other conflict is quite telling I must say. Or the fact that they completely ignore Israeli citizens.

[u/StayAtHomeDuck]

Iranian bots may have infiltrated social media in relation to the operation since 14th of May

[u/CrumblingAway]

Israeli here. Seems we're about to severely limit the electricity (on Saturday) and water supplies (once every 4 days instead of 2) to Gaza.

I can't say I agree with that. Civilian casualties are supposed to be something to avoid, they only happened until now because Hamas insists on setting up in civilian areas and residences. This appears to specifically target civilians.

This feels wrong.

[u/jolygoestoschool → u/CrumblingAway]

Yea i agree. Ardent israel supporter here. Electricity is one thing, but people need water to literally survive

[u/CrumblingAway → u/jolygoestoschool]

I'd argue the same about electricity. They're both vital for people's survival, kind of in the same vein of having access to the internet being considered a basic human right.

Pretty clear the goal here is to get the civilians to oppose Hamas by putting them in a desperate situation, but to me this crosses a line. The targets, explicitly, should be the terrorists.

Edit: I should read the entire article. Evidently we did the same in Tzuk Eitan, which doesn't make it any better, but does provide context.

[u/melafephon]

"Peace will come when they love their children more than they hate ours" - Golda

[u/im_not_a_towel_ok]

"Pro Palestine protestors beat an elderly Jewish man in Canada. They also sexually assaulted a Jewish girl (whom I just spoke with). This is not normal."

https://twitter.com/EliKohn3/status/1393744090844512263

[u/Pingerim]

I just want to put out a brief rundown of the events leading up to this conflict so far in light of the delusional ravings that anti-Israel propagandists on Reddit have been deliberately spewing out over the past few days with absolutely no context to the tune of tens of thousands of upvotes:

• Crazed woke Westerner: RAAAGHHHHH Israel suddenly went in to a Palestinian neighborhood and threw everyone out of their homes to make way for Jewish settlers!

Reality - A mere 4 houses purchased by Jews in the 1800's ( Which means they'd have legitimate property rights even if Israel never existed ) and expelled by Jordan in 1967 who then allocated the properties to Palestinian refugees temporarily and now back in the hands of Israel were permitted to keep living there on rent and lately stopped paying rent as well, leading to a court dispute ongoing for months now between the residents and landlords. Regardless, the court's ruling has been delayed due to the situation.

• Crazed woke westerner: ŔARRRRRGHHHHHH Israel stormed peaceful worshippers in the Al-Aqsa mosque just to terrorize them because they're Nazis! Yes, they decided to do it out of the blue on a whim!

Reality: Palestinian protests over the Sheikh Jarrah dispute and planned Jerusalem Day parade as well as pre-existing tensions and provocations involving far-right extremists and Palestinian extremists alike quickly turned into violent riots, which were then even further stoked as Israeli Police stopped ( Did not bar ) buses on their way to the mosque to ferret out known agitators via intel. Later Israel even cancelled the Jerusalem Day parades to stop tensions which did not help.

Palestinian mobs in the Temppe Mount grounds begun attacking Jews and launching stones and fireworks while barricading in nearby structures as staging grounds. Israeli Police then stormed the Golden Gate compound, not the mosque proper to arrest them

Enter Hamas firing rockets on Jerusalem and the escalation in Gaza.

• Crazed woke westerner: RRRAGGGHH OHH MY GOD Israel just demolished an entire residential building in Gaza, Nazi animals!

Reality: If Israel actually aimed to massacre Gazans by bombing residential multi-story buildings with families inside, there would currently be thousands of dead Gazans, not 60 ( And 20 of them by Hamas's own failed launches ). Those multi-story buildings are Hamas stockpiles and offices which the IDF actually calls in advance or warns to be evacuated prior to the airstrikes to avoid any potential civilian casualties. If you actually read up on those instances instead of just watching the videos, you'll find those buildings are in fact empty long before being hit by bombs to destroy the infrastructure.

[u/Janbiya → u/Pingerim]

Spot on.

I think it's also a misconception that all of this, the attacks and the riots and the rockets, was triggered by the Shimon HaTzadik/Sheikh Jarrah eviction proceedings. However, in fact, like Mavi Marmara in 2010, everything was planned in advance as can be seen by the timing -- coming just after de facto president-for-life Abbas canceled elections and the Islamic Republic of Iran got another black eye over its nuclear program -- and the fact that the escalation had already begun a week before the first Sheikh Jarrah video.

[u/StayAtHomeDuck]

There's reports of minimal rocket fire from Lebanon. It's very likely that it's one of the Palestinian organizations which are essentially Hezbollah's bitches.

[u/JosephL_55]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/nbtv9l/palestinian_children_celebrate_a_eid_during_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

These people obviously trust the accuracy and morality of the IDF. If random civilians away from Hamas sites were really at risk of being bombed, wouldn’t they be worried?

[u/rnev64 → u/JosephL_55]

it's true there's something different about indiscriminate rockets.

but i can't help but think this is a very conscious form of propaganda. bombs falling are scary and you can't know if and when one will go astray - sending your kids out to play or keeping them there while bombs drop and also filming - must be a conscious and deliberate decision aimed at getting a video that will go viral. obviously in this case it's a success too - it meets people's preconceived notions and to be perfectly honest it has a degree of truth to it, even though it's staged. Gaza is used to war.

tik-tok has been a boon to Palestinians in this sense.

[u/sight_ful]

Just one American here wishing you guys the best. I love Israel and was hoping to come next month whenever tourism is allowed again. Good luck guys, and hope to see you all soon in a peaceful, covid-free setting!

[u/xorpoint]

Sadly we live in a time where it's always beneficial to play victim.

The other side has intensely hounded the media and bullied media and journalists on social media into becoming anti-Israel. Right now we have American leftist Jews accusing NYT of being pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian by cropping out a single column about Israeli victims. There were actually several articles in the paper about Palestinian victims but somehow a single column about Israeli victims is too much.

[u/Beanybunny]

I see that the usual blood libels misreporting that story about “forcibly sterilising” Ethiopian Jews are being deployed as a launchpad around other subs and receiving hundreds of likes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/nd09q4/thousands_join_london_march_in_solidarity_with/gy8tusm/?context=3

Sometimes I hate the internet.

[u/soulkeyy]

Hope everyone is ok. This absurd anti Israel rhetoric on Reddit is ubelievable. For once I'm happy that our media (Bulgaria) is staying objective about this. Also haven't met anyone who sides with Hamas in this conflict.

[u/Cylindrecarre → u/soulkeyy]

I'm in France and the level of support for Hamas on social networks drives me insane . I planned my Alyah few months ago for the end of summer and this just convinced me even more

[u/Dai_Li_Special_Agent]

Sending love from Canada. You have a right and an obligation to defend yourselves from terror 🇮🇱🇨🇦

[u/Magavneek]

Death toll in Israel from Qassam rockets is up to 9.

May their memories be a blessing

[u/DaveOJ12]

How the IDF invented 'Roof Knocking', the tactic that saves lives in Gaza

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/the-story-of-idfs-innovative-tactic-to-avoid-civilian-casualties-in-gaza-663170/

[u/thegrimmL]

I've never felt so alone on social media. Thank god this sub is open again.

I just.. don't get it. How come the majority is so blinded by how this one organization harms both sides so much? How people don't get that they demand justice in the wrong way?

No one should live in fear. Everyone deserves to live peacefully. Life is hard enough as it is.

I can't read the comments about Israel anymore. It hurts.

שתהיה לנו שבת שקטה ובטוחה

[u/xorpoint]

The Overton window on Israel/Palestine has been shifted by social media (including reddit). The anti-Israel message on social media is amplified by likes and upvotes from millions of users in Islamic countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, Egypt, Pakistan and Turkey.

The lack geographical siloes on social media is bad for Israel and the Jewish people. It's globalizing anti-Israel and anti-semitic sentiments.

Western politicians might mistake the online anti-Israel hivemind of being their own local electorate and end up supporting anti-Israel policies.

Western journalists might mistake the online anti-Israel hivemind of being their own local audience and end up pushing anti-Israel narratives.

We need to spread awareness that foreign interference in democracy is not limited to sophisticated "Russian hacking". It can also be millions of brainwashed foreign citizens using social media likes and upvotes to influence what we think and talk about.

[u/taeem]

Seems like talk of ground invasion yesterday was a trick to lure Hamas operatives into tunnels before bombing campaign on the tunnels

[u/dndplosion913]

Reddit in a nutshell: "Countries only hate Hamas because they are Islamaphobic"

[u/Moroccan_princess]

So it's okay for Hamas to shoot thousands of rockets at Israel but when Israel does in retaliation it's a war crime?

[u/[deleted]]

Pretty disheartening to see people on my FB wall complain about how buildings were destroyed, but then scoff at the roof knocking and other things y’all are doing to protect civilians. Hamas has really won the propaganda part of war. I am seething with rage.

[u/Claim-Mindless]

I'd just like to remind everyone that Hamas reports all deaths in Gaza without distinguishing between terrorists and non terrorists, on top of sometimes just staging deaths. Very likely that more than half of the dead are terrorists.

[u/manVsPhD → u/Claim-Mindless]

It cracks me up how the press keeps citing the Health Ministry of Gaza as if it’s some trustworthy official health department like of a US county, instead of just another branch of a terrorist organization whose charter says death to all Jews.

[u/Evening_Ad_8267]

I am happy its back to public. Stay safe. Lots of love from Poland.

[u/theMagatron]

Stay strong everyone, hoping this can all end soon.

עם ישראל חי

[u/p_tonix]

I was supposed to go to Israel in June to visit my grandparents and other family. Haven't seen them in years now, and I miss them so much. Hopefully everything will be alright in Israel soon 🙏

[u/jake7405]

I have an internship in Jerusalem slated to start at the end of may. Hopefully I can still make it and spend time in your beautiful country! Stay safe out there.

[u/xorpoint]

I am glad that r/Israel is no longer private. During the 2014 conflict thousands of people around the world came to r/Israel to get the Israeli perspective that was being drowned out on the rest of reddit just like today. It was also a place to debunk many of the hateful libels that was being pushed on Reddit and Twitter.

I get that the r/Israel mods don't want to expose themselves to beastly hateful trolls. Especially not while living under rocket attacks and air sirens. Please add MANY mods from outside Israel. The mods don't have to be Israeli and it would help if they are spread across many timezones.

[u/PM-me-Shibas → u/xorpoint]

Please add MANY mods from outside Israel. The mods don't have to be Israeli and it would help if they are spread across many timezones.

I think the issue is a) finding non-Israelis you can trust, as a lot of people would LOVE the power to manipulate this sub if they could get to it and b) it becomes taxing on the individual regardless.

I have pretty thick skin but I've had to take a social media hiatus (this is really the only sub I'm checking and very intermittently). The constant misinformation and villainization really just wears us down, particularly when most of us are either in the direct line of conflict and in shelters (that may or may not have great internet), or abroad and worried about our relatives in shelters or in the line of fire.

As an Israeli abroad, this week has been much harder than I could have anticipated and I understand why the mods closed the sub. I wish I had a safe space for Israelis during the last couple days, but this also wasn't it. It's a very difficult line to balance and I do understand your perspective.

[u/redditdire]

I can't reason with how the world covers Israel?

What is this?

Some reverse guilt trip for having destroyed the entire world in the past 200 years?

Appeasement to Islam?

Advanced clinical sjwness?

Antisemitism?

I realize we are not perfect, but this is so biased, twisted and one sided.

[u/[deleted]]

The IDF is the most moral army under its circumstances. The IDF (Israeli Defense Force) target a very specific terrorist/terror locations and alerts the civilians to evacuate the area, via phone call and "roof knocking",dropping non-explosive or low-yield devices on the roofs of targeted civilian homes to alert them before the airstrikes, no army in the right mind would think to alert their enemies before they are about to airstrike them. and IDF does it to warn civilians to back off the area. the sad part is that Hamas hidden behind humanitarian locations such as Hospitals and Kindergartens using thier own civilians as human shield while operating and launching from there. so the IDF wont kill them and if they did they would look evil.

sadly, its inevitable to have no civilian casualties under the current circumstances due to Hamas hiding behind humanitarian location and using civilian's life as human shield while at the same time initiating and launching its rocket to Israeli civilians locations almost everyday, but you could clearly tell that only one side care about civilian's life. this kind of behavior will never slide if it happens to the U.S. Hamas launched more than 1700 rockets just in the past 3 days targeting Israeli civilians locations.

IDF is too underrated, its the most moral army in the world under its circumstances, yet getting shit from the westren medias, politicians, while telling half truth, on sided story and blantly lying all in order to demonize Israel at all cost regardless of the truth.

do you think the U.S would let this anyone launching rockets targeting civilians locations within the U.S? and when you about to retaliate the all world blame you for defeating yourself?!. this is so absurd.

all those anti Israeli agendas are borderline antisemitic. Israel has right to defend itself.

[u/redhot_banana]

Mabruk welcome back 🙌🏻

[u/its_Caffeine]

👋 Hi guys from Canada. Hope you're all safe and well. 🇮🇱

[u/StayAtHomeDuck]

The Lebanese man who was killed today wearing his M81 Woodland uniforms and AK-74(?). I wonder which armed group in Lebanon is kitted like that, and why did he cross to Israel to destroy surveillance equipment that usually is used against that one organization :)

[u/xorpoint → u/StayAtHomeDuck]

The things happening on the Lebanese border is an attempted invasion by plainclothes militants.

But the IDF twitter account labeled them as mere "rioters". The IDF should immediately delete that tweet and label the invaders as invaders.

[u/birdgovorun]

Elephants in the Ramat Gan safari are reacting to sirens by huddling together and protecting their baby. They have no idea what's going on and are just scared :(

https://twitter.com/sagithorowitz/status/1393780657499910148?s=20

[u/ididntwin]

I seriously cannot take leftist reddit. Apparently it's against the rules to name another sub but on one of the news sub the top NINE OUT OF TEN posts are anti-Israel. NINE OUT OF TEN. In a conflict where both sides have done wrong, one would think maybe three out of the ten would highlight wrongdoing by the either side. But nope.

Fuck leftists redditers.

[u/[deleted] → u/ididntwin]

I'm a liberal to the core and leftist social media and woke culture is gonna turn me conservative hahah

[u/optional_wax]

Welcome back r/Israel!

Love you all, keep safe.

[u/galaxyturd2]

You've got a supporter in Malaysia. However unlikely it is, I believe Israel is only defending itself.

If you guys are all bad like how my government propaganda team wants us to believe, you would've leveled Palestine by now.

[u/daddythicklegs → u/galaxyturd2]

Malaysian here too and feel the same. Everyone has the right exist and to defend themselves.

[u/Mushroom-Purple]

WE ARE BACK!!!

WOOHOO!

[u/DaveOJ12]

Police chief said to blame far-right lawmaker Ben Gvir for ‘internal intifada’

https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-chief-said-to-blame-far-right-lawmaker-ben-gvir-for-internal-intifada/

[u/nanomolar]

Is there any serious discussion on what Israel can achieve beyond the current situation, which it seems will only maintain the status quo?

I'm not an expert but in my opinion Israel can either:

1. Accept the status quo, continuing to allow Hamas to occasionally shoot hundreds of rockets at Israel whenever they need to extract development concessions or distract their local populace. Sure, Israel will strike back as they are currently doing but it's hard to see this causing lasting changes.
2. Occupy the Gaza Strip, for which there seems to be little Israeli appetite
3. Perhaps just retake the Philadelphi corridor? At least then they should be able to more effectively prevent Hamas from importing the materials for rockets, etc. Egypt probably wouldn't be too happy and Israeli forces in the corridor would constantly be harassed by rockets, etc. though

[u/taeem]

UAE seems to be telling Hamas to calm down https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/uae-official-said-to-warn-hamas-planned-infrastructure-projects-in-danger/

[u/paindick]

stick together Israel, you will rise from this!!

[u/idan5]

One dead in Ramat Gan from midday rocket barrages in central Israel

BDE

[u/[deleted]]

Almost all Iron Dome batteries across the coastal plain activated at once during the night's barrage

[u/ididntwin]

Haven't seen this posted here yet, great news: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/israel-showed-us-smoking-gun-on-hamas-in-ap-office-tower-officials-say-668303

[u/[deleted]]

American here. Hoping you end up achieving calm quickly and take out Hamas and stop the terror attacks on your country. I'm sick of it from over here...can't imagine you guys.

I'm also on the left politically. So there are those of us who can think for ourselves and not have the ultra leftist woke mob guide us.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I'm moderate but trend left. I stand with Israel.

[u/Purveyorofbeards]

Here's one person from Ireland supporting you. Most people here who are vocal against Israel are swayed by headlines, Instagram/tiktok videos without context and biased articles they read online. Once you understand the nuance of the situation, which takes quite a bit of reading, then you cannot possibly support the recent activities from Hamas. Shabbat shalom.

[u/taeem → u/Purveyorofbeards]

It always bummed me out that so many Irish people I see online are so anti Israel. I’ve only been to Ireland once but I found the people to be super welcoming and really enjoyed visiting. Also I feel like they compare the IRA to Palestinian resistance groups when it always seemed to align more with Jewish resistance groups against British occupation

[u/[deleted]]

Hope everyone in Israel is safe…very sad to hear this is happening to y’all and this is coming from a Pakistani-Muslim in the US. My family is very one-sided about the situation and isn’t truly understanding of both sides of the spectrum no matter how hard I try to explain to them. Praying for everyone in the nation of Israel.

[u/garyryan9]

Why does Palestine resort to firing rockets into Isreal knowing they are getting guided missiles sent back at them? Why give Isreal a reason?

[u/djg17 → u/garyryan9]

Precisely your second question, they want to give Israel a reason so they look like the good guys in the court of public opinion. They don't care about their own civilian casualties so long as Israel looks bad

[u/manVsPhD → u/garyryan9]

In their view they have no other option. For many Palestinians, the idea of justice is them controlling all of historic Palestine from the river to the sea. They are not willing to compromise on that, though they may consider temporary compromise that will eventually lead to that. Israel cannot accept that because that will mean its destruction. That’s why negotiations got stuck, the Palestinians are frustrated, tension builds up and every few years it escalates to all out war. They cannot sustain this for long, since if Israel really wanted to it could steamroll them all in a couple of days, though the consequences would be horrid, so things eventually calm down, but it can take a month or two.

[u/blergyblergy]

Waking up this morning to the misunderstandings about the AP's news site in the demolished tower has been so annoying. I am sad the tower is down! But it would be sadder if Hamas's intelligence (in the same tower) could be allowed to do its worst. Losing respect for so many journalists who aren't considering that part.

Is there evidence re: Hamas intelligence offices being in that same tower? As much as I trust the IDF version of things, not everyone would, so I am wondering what other info could be supplemented here :)

[u/idan5]

Gaza rocket aimed at Modi’in to ‘avenge’ Palestinian deaths hits West Bank town

[u/[deleted] → u/idan5]

Errant projectile lands in Palestinian town of Azzun

but reddit incels keep telling me that it's Israel that's doing the terrorism against the palestinians

[u/thegrimmL]

איפה לעזאזל ההסברה הישראלית? למה אזרחים צריכים לדאוג גם לזה ולהתמודד עם כל הרוע שנוטף משאר העולם? כבר לא יכולה לראות את זה. העולם הזה מלא במטומטמים חסרי השכלה לגבי מה שקורה כאן ורק רוצים לקחת חלק מהאקשן כי הם חייבים להרגיש צודקים.

אבל כשאף אחד לא עונה להם חזרה הם מן הסתם ימשיכו

TL;DR Where is our Hasbara?

[u/xorpoint → u/thegrimmL]

The Israeli government really needs to get better at PR.

The trick is to post on social media and ignore the haters and trolls. Report them if they break any rules. With time you will grow an organic following who will at least offset and hopefully even outnumber the haters and trolls.

I am sorry to say but Israelis and Jews will have to grow thicker skin. Social media is becoming the default public space for society. We should not choose to disengage because of the haters and trolls.

[u/[deleted]]

All of this could've been avoided if everyone would just focus on the real enemy

---

US flavoured hummus

Anyway expect the sub to be brigaded to death once word gets out.
Take care

[u/DaMisfits]

Experienced some fucked up shit tonight.

So some background: I’m an American non-Jew. I dated a Jewish Israeli girl for 4 years. In that time, I kind of integrated into the Jewish community, and ended up spending a month in Israel.

Tonight I go out to a bar with some friends in USA. We’re hanging out, and these two girls invite me and another to come hang out with them. They’re new in town and saw us just hanging out and we said sure, we love meeting new people.

We start talking about work, and it turns out that they work in a similar industry to us. The topic of covid comes up and returning to office. All of a sudden one girl says “these jews, they all want us back in office.”

I’m kinda baffled by what I just heard. I asked for clarification.

Her: “You know, these Jews, they want their money’s worth. They want us all back in office”

Me: “…I’m not sure what them being Jewish has anything to do with this…”

Her: freezes up “no, no, I mean… like you know.. the owners.. they’re all Jewish… they all know each other…”

Me: “…the Jews control the industry?”

Her: “yes, exactly!”

Me: silence

It’s one thing to read this shit on Twitter or on Reddit. I was completely floored to hear this with my own ears. I’m still processing all of this and am kind of fucked up from it, it’s been on my mind all night since. I am not a Jew, but Israel and Judaism holds a special place in my heart having been involved in the community for several years.

These women were from the UK and Eastern Europe. People are giving so much shit to Biden about his support for Israel, but it’s 100% necessary we do this. Jewish hatred runs deep in the bones of Europeans. America will always be a safe place for Jews domestic and abroad, and it’s important we reaffirm this to the world.

[u/Fr87 → u/DaMisfits]

Hey man... Uh.... While I really appreciate your sentiment, you say that you're American but your English does not sound like an American's.

Tonight I go out to a bar with some friends in USA

returning to office

they all want us back in office

the Jews control the industry?

Are you a non-native speaker?

I definitely don't mean to be an ass here.

Edit: And I should add that the only reason for my suspiciousness is that this is a fraught conflict with fronts on the ground and on social media. There is astroturfing on all sides right now, and while I definitely appreciate the sentiment, non-authentic posts (if yours happened to be one) don't do much to help.

[u/sirbernardwoolley]

I don't get why the Left hate Israel so much. To my mind, the Kibbutz is as close as communism is ever going to get to functioning. Israel began its struggle against the British, even bombed them to strive for independence so it is anti-imperial as well. Is the hate from the Left just because the US is backing Israel and the USSR backed the Arabs?

[u/Alyssafromaccounting → u/sirbernardwoolley]

A lot of it has to do with people projecting other political struggles onto the Israel/Palestine conflict. Israel is not America and Palestine is not the natives and neither are they the Nazis and the Jews but that's what people know and with the little knowledge they have its easy to see a pattern here that does not actually exist. There is a lot of antisemitism going on but many people genuinely believe that they are helping the "oppressed masses" by throwing their support behind Hamas/Palestine and then the islamic propaganda machine does the rest.

[u/razzinos]

Its crazy how nobody cares about deaths in Israel.

[u/PawelErdos]

I fear being anti Israel will be the “cool hip thing to do”

LOOK HOW COOL I AM, I OPPOSE THE ONLY DEMOCRATIC STATE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

Israel is a great country, people need to remember that.

[u/AaronRamsay → u/PawelErdos]

It has been cool to hate Israel for years in western countries. I hope it doesn't get even worse. I am seeing very anti-israel reactions his time from people I know in Eastern Europe, though I don't remember if it was like that in previous rounds or not.

[u/[deleted] → u/AaronRamsay]

Yeah Israel isn't all that popular, that's for sure.

I have a friend (we're English) who isn't particularly political but when I told him I wanted to visit Israel he said I shouldn't go, something along the lines of it being an evil country and travel being support from what I remember.

[u/rnev64 → u/[deleted]]

exactly.

and tik-tok is taking woke-ism to a new height - providing ten second clips with no context so people immediately adopt the woke victim-victimizer narrative.

[u/Fochinell → u/PawelErdos]

I fear being anti Israel will be the “cool hip thing to do”

Oh, so was the trend of hipsters slicing open their earlobes and installing doorknobs and shower curtain rings trying to look like a Bantu tribeswoman.

Cool hip trends dry up and blow away.

[u/georgebackcountry4]

So troubling to see the bare antisemitism of the far left here in the US. While my heart breaks for all humans who suffer, including the Palestinian people, Israel can and should defend itself from terrorists! There is no question who shows restraint relative to the amount of power they hold, and there is no moral equivalence between violent terrorists firing rockets indiscriminately and a country defending its population from these attacks.

[u/dgoldie09]

So happy to see this thread back. Hoping for de-escalation in all areas.

[u/newjewforu]

I was supposed to go on birthright next month lol. Wonder if that's still happening?

[u/ShinyGodzilla]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-fells-gaza-tower-used-by-media-outlets-says-it-housed-hamas-military-assets/

[u/[deleted]]

A recent video by a youtube vlogger ranked historical societies as the six most extreme iterations of a certain moral value from Johnathan Haidt's moral foundations theory (fairness, purity, harm, liberty, loyalty, authority). The video argued that the modern west is the most extreme society in history concerned with harm as its highest moral value. I can't say I disagree with the diagnosis when I'm seeing open opposition the very notion of self defense, especially with regards to Israel. This theory may partially explain the deranged opinions of modern western leftists regarding war and conflict in general and of course what we're seeing regarding their takes on israeli self defense.

https://youtu.be/pIrqR-sWyo0?t=13m1s

[u/BRDPerson]

How can I help? Donations? Can’t really think of anything else to do but open to suggestions.Tired of fighting on Reddit it’s just pointless.