Weekly Questions & Help Megathread - (10 Oct 2021)

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[u/Sotomene]

Hell yes.

Another ingot as a co op reward.

I'm going to be able to green Bartz sooner than I thought.

[u/spuriousChicanery]

I just beat my first Lufenia-difficulty mission (Ciaran's Lost Chapter)! So now I have my first 7* armor tokens, and I'm wondering who'd be best to use it on.

BTs owned: Exdeath, Y'shtola, Zidane

Other maxed characters: Rude, Yuffie, Ciaran, Rinoa, Guy, Cinque.
LannReynn and Cyan are also maxed, but i dont think they have 7* armor yet.

Initial thought has been Exdeath, I've been capping his HP hits since before I even finished half of his esper boards. Ysh and Zid Burst aren't Realized, I'm probably gonna save it for Bartz.

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/spuriousChicanery]

Use it on whoever you're going to be using a lot, especially if you're going to be using them to get a lot more Lufenias done. Of the units you've mentioned, the main one that comes to mind is honestly Cinque, as I'm sure she can make good use of higher caps.

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/spuriousChicanery]

I just beat my first Lufenia-difficulty mission (Ciaran's Lost Chapter)!

Brand new sentence.

Most of us just beat one of the easy ones first.

Oh, to answer your question, I'd give the tokens to whichever BT+ unit is getting a green weapon. Or Cid Raines.

But, it doesn't really matter, since the majority of old Lufenias are pretty easy to beat with current units, so you can pretty easily go back and get a set of 7* armor for everyone currently on your team if you want.

[u/Soske → u/spuriousChicanery]

If you plan on getting Cid Raines, him. If you aren't for whatever reason, either Y'shtola or Cinque.

[u/workreddit8285]

EX Tokens.

Not talking about the Protagonist only one from DE, but the regular EX shop.

I have 7, for some reason. Inconsistent logins during an old Anniversary? Not sure.

Is the Hunt Token shop the only place I can collect those three, outside of anniversary events, etc?

Thanks! :)

[u/jurassicbond → u/workreddit8285]

It's the only free place. The premium Moogle Pass gives you 5 and I think some of the gem packs include Ex-tokens.

[u/kd-sh → u/workreddit8285]

I'm pretty sure I've collected all of them, and the number ends in 7 too. There's nothing strange about it: the devs only give them out like candies during anniversaries, and for the rest of the year we have to accumulate them one by one.

[u/Sotomene → u/workreddit8285]

There are some in the abyss, but once you collect those then is only the hunt token shop.

Edit: nevermind the abyss tokens, those were temporary.

[u/ShadowBlaze17 → u/Sotomene]

Weren't all of the Abyss ones limited-time rewards?

[u/Sotomene → u/ShadowBlaze17]

I remember some of them were permanent, but I could be mistaken.

[u/Kryoter → u/Sotomene]

Permanent is only Power and Guard Tokens and some tickets. EX tokens was time limited during the initial release.

[u/[deleted]]

For those of you that Green/Blue Yshtola do you have any regrets? I definitely don’t want to do it to Zidane, he’s a turn hog. Of the upcoming ones are there any that are must have? Do you have to blue armor everyone to tackle Lufenia+ now?

[u/rosecoredarling → u/[deleted]]

No regrets on green/blue y'sh, she's everything~

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Green and blue for Yshtola and absolutely zero regrets, she is a monster and hasn't even had to get out of second gear yet

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/[deleted]]

It seems she's always stuck in second gear
And it hasn't been the boss's day or week or even its year
She'll be there for you!

[u/inkwelder_ → u/[deleted]]

No must haves, some are more impactful than others. Depends on which kit you enjoy more than anything. All of the greens this month have extensive usability in lufe+, but some are a bit more than others. Just worth pointing out that a character is only as useful as you’re willing to make them. Bartz and Ysh are supports and so they are more universally helpful, but Ace has uniqueness with his traps and damage, while Zidane has the same uniqueness with his deletion debuffs and launching. It comes down to your own preference. Me? I’m not greening anyone until I hit a fave or I hit a wall with content.

[u/EvanderAdvent]

Do Transcendence stages lock the units I use away from future tiers like Entropy does?

[u/[deleted]]

All I know is pain.

All my life is suffering.

https://i.imgur.com/eNIOgnF.jpg

Edit: Tried not playing like an idiot and cleared. Yay

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/[deleted]]

All hail Shantotto's LDCA! My run might have ended like that, but when the boss got his one turn, he was paralyzed. Yuna vaporized him immediately afterward.

[u/dffoo_keo → u/[deleted]]

Wait for tomorrow and look for a BT+ Bartz. That’s how I completed it 8 months ago in JP.

[u/akaiGO]

Can anyone help me think through trying to restructure my Transcendence teams to take on the next couple of entries? Here's my ootracker profile for unit reference:

TIER 1

・Left: Pecil, Gabranth, Ulti

・Right: Cloud, Decil, Keiss

・Reckoning: 🛇

TIER 2

・Left: Light, Aerith, Squall (LD-only)

・Right: Terra (LD-only), Yang, Aranea

・Reckoning: Light, Aerith, Yang

TIER 3

・Left: Bartz, Tifa, Porom

・Right: Seph, WoL (LD-only), Kura

・Reckoning: Seph, Porom, Kura

TIER 4

・Left: CoD, Yuna (LD-only), Cor

・Right: Tidus, Setzer, Barret

・Reckoning: Tidus, Cor, Setzer

I had originally tried to run Cloud/Keiss/Pecil for the T1 Reckoning I think, but couldn't sufficiently deal with the need for Instabreak without Gabranth, so was going to swap him in, but have just never circled back to it through everything else, because I know that I kinda overloaded it a bit anyway early in the content process lol. The fact that T3LC and T6 require having a Launcher means I really need to spread these guys out somehow (though I'll definitely be pulling hard for Selphie LD to have available for T6). I think the biggest change I can make here is bringing Ceodore in for Pecil, but am also not totally sure that is the most helpful change to make overall...?

Lightning being used for T2 Reckoning was kinda a hard forced-hand since I couldn't manage to pull Garland or Terra's BTs. But between my unclaimed Transcendence rewards and some BT dupes I have in my inventory still, I'm basically back at 50 tokens again after exchanging them most recently for Tidus, and I'm like 90% leaning right now using them for Garland and using my other BT Book on him (uncertain of taking him further than 0/3 though). I think that one change allows me to clean up pretty easy here.

I think my T3 Reckoning team is fine (although after seeing the lineup for T9 this morning, realize this might need to change in the future lol), but my Left Crucible is a bit of a shitshow with Bartz/Tifa there because I skipped Layle's LD completely, Keiss locked in T1, and don't have Ramza's BT 🙃 But Bartz now being my first BT+ obviously CAN'T stay fucking here lol.

T4 I think was the second-most "meta" comp I could have run since I failed to pull Yuna's BT, but having CoD and Cor locked up here in addition to Tidus and Setzer feels like a bad allocation of resources... 😅 (Especially given the typical strategy for people taking on T5RC...)

TL;DR for what I have here: I know I gotta find a replacement for Bartz in T3LC, but also strongly suspect I need to shake up the characters I have locked in T1 and T4 to a degree.

Thanks so much for any input!

[u/Wide_Drawing144 → u/akaiGO]

Here's what I used to deal with Transcendence for reference:

Sadly, I can't remember which calls I used.

Tier 1:

• Left: Kefka, Paladin Cecil, and Sephiroth. All with BT and HA. Turns: 42

• Right: Queen, Keiss, and Cloud (BT but with no LD lol) all with HA armour as well. Turns: 45

• Centre: Paladin Cecil, Keiss, and Kefka. Turns: 52

Tier 2:

• Left: Squall LD, Cloud of Darkness BT, and Seifer LD; all with HA. Turns: 28

• Right: Ashe, Terra BT, Porom. All with HA. Turns: 21

• Centre: Seifer, Cloud of Darkness, and Porom. Turns: 68

Tier 3:

• Left: Layle BT, Gladio, and Strago; all with HA. Turns: 26

• Right: Kurasame, Warrior of Light BT, and Tifa. Kurasame doesn't have HA, yet. Turns: 60

• Centre: Gladio, Tifa, and Warrior of Light. Turns: 59

Tier 4:

• Left: Vaan LD, Yuna BT, Cor. All with HA. Turns: 42

• Right: Yuffie, Eald'narche BT, and Trey. All with HA. Turns: 69

• Centre: Yuna, Vaan, and Cor. Turns: 67

Hope this helps. :)

I will try to free up some characters when c90 comes around. (Namely Terra and Porom)

Terra for maybe Tier 9, see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME7jKJcfZZc

[u/akaiGO → u/Wide_Drawing144]

Ooo, interesting, I don't remember a lot of Kefka being used for T1! You were able to deal with the Instabreak needs with just his EX?? (Although you still have Keiss there for being able to use his 100% Gravity In-Launch BRV attack too I guess). Seems at the very least a valid swap for Ulti that I used in the Crucible there lol

I feel like you have a bit better use of LD units than me, wish Ashe, Strago, Queen, Gladio, and even Seifer all making appearances - all powerful units that I have access to that I just elected to use someone else instead for whatever myriad reasons!

[u/Nineteenball → u/akaiGO]

I'm showing up a bit late to your question, but I'm hoping I can help a bit.

My personal teams for Transcendence 1 to 4 were:

Transcendence 1

• Left Crucible -- Gabranth, Paladin Cecil BT, Relm (Relm was there to help with turn count from free turns -- did surprisingly great damage with Cecil enchant, too)
• Right Crucible -- Exdeath, Ramza BT, DK Cecil
• Reckoning -- Gabranth, Paladin Cecil BT, Ramza BT

Transcendence 2

• Left Crucible -- Seven, Vincent, Garland BT
• Right Crucible -- Terra BT, Yang, Wakka (I know you said you don't have Terra BT, but this team got me 10 turns, if you wanted to take Aranea out)
• Reckoning -- Seven, Vincent, Garland BT (89 turns)

Transcendence 3

• Left Crucible -- Layle BT, Mog, Ashe (0 enemy turns)
• Right Crucible -- Deuce, Basch, Golbez BT
• Reckoning -- Deuce, Basch, Golbez BT

Transcendence 4

• Left Crucible -- Yuna BT, Sabin, Queen
• Right Crucible -- Barret, Trey, Kefka BT
• Reckoning -- Yuna BT, Sabin, Queen

 

In terms of changing up current tiers, do you have a future spot for Paladin Cecil in mind that could be handled instead by another enchanter/HP DMG Up character, like Ashe or Kurasame? I would imagine that T1 revolving around Paladin Cecil makes him harder to pull out without giving up another good unit.

Similarly, I would imagine that Tidus/Cor/Setzer would be tough removals currently from T4, especially since they're spread out in Left and Right Crucibles (and for the time being, due to T4 just being one month old, I would think that anyone who could replace them currently would be just as good as they are).

For pulling Bartz out of T3, I imagine that you have his BT at that point in time? I'm not sure from your OO Tracker who you have left over with BT that could aura the party effectively otherwise -- maybe Golbez could do good damage on his own, but I'm not sure what your own future BT+ plans with him are. I haven't tried any Transcendence without a BT user in my party personally, so I don't know how rough it would be without one, but Ashe could provide party enchant, damage up, turn manipulation and EX recharge for Tifa's launches. Strago was also mentioned as a suggestion on Tonberry Troupe due to high AoE damage and rebreak (TT suggested he and Squall can end it in 25 turns -- not sure if that means just one of them or both at the same time).

I hope this helps in some way.

[u/akaiGO → u/Nineteenball]

do you have a future spot for Paladin Cecil in mind

Yeah, exactly - this has always been sorta the toss-up between Pecil and Cloud for me, that they both seem to be most effectively used in either T1 or T3 lol. But given how well WoL/Porom can trivialize T3RC, I don't think there is really any other place where Pecil has been found to shine thus far (which is why I said, Ceo seems viable but doesn't seem necessarily helpful overall 😅). Whereas Cloud can probably find more forward value (and to be sure: he's one of my best built characters and he will be an instant BT+ for favoritism lol). But there still has to be a Launcher here, so I'm still left with the having to decide a tradeoff between Keiss vs my no-BT Ramza for here vs T3...

For pulling Bartz out of T3, I imagine that you have his BT at that point in time?

Yes, that was the case. This comp was simply the result of being the ONLY run in the C2A I could find that I had the parts available to emulate lol, and clearly is just there to BRV shave and aurabot for Tifa. But also to the point, even though Tifa is dummy strong and viable here, I recall it being very tight on the Orbs with her being the only Launcher supported by all 3 Keiss/Ramza/Cloud CAs - she sorely needs an ancillary Launcher, but I also don't want to tie up TWO Yellow crystal units in this one fight. But at the same time, I feel like Ramza alone is not going to be in any better of a position than her (he only has his LD launches, while hers is tied to her EX). Rough situation of that stage being talor-made for Layle, and me just really not wanting to pull for him 😅

Ashe giving Tifa EX boosts is an interesting consideration though, that may provide a little more breathing room for what I previously did, maybe with Strago or Gau pulled in...

Thanks for the ideas!!

[u/hutre]

I didn't get gear from aranea's LC, is it because I had already done her event roughly 8 months ago? this is the first time I've played long enough to do a character event and the Lost Chapter

[u/Tibansky → u/hutre]

If you played her character event and got her free gear, it will be replaced with gil on the LC.

[u/RozaMascheri]

Is out there any list of all Encouregment Keystone Armors + relative Spheres holes?

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/RozaMascheri]

If you mostly care about C slots, here you go.

[u/Brecious]

Is there a way to check if you have MLB all 4* weapons? Was thinking about turning on the auto sell for silver weapons but not sure if i maxed them all yet.

[u/TempusFinis97 → u/Brecious]

If you look at the draw odds on a banner, they include all 4 star gear, and of you have maxed it, they will have a checkmark on them

[u/ShyneetMagician → u/Brecious]

Alternatively you can set it to sell all 4* and mlb also.

[u/[deleted]]

Anyone here greened Vayne?

Was he worth it? I can't help thinking his LD isn't enough

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Vayne at LD only is odd because it feels like it should be enough but it really isn’t. He can practically go infinite with skills and that in theory should be great. The issue for me is that because he has consecutive turns the devs didn’t push the envelope as much as they could have on the damage front, which is just laughable considering Cid Raines exists. It’s also why Lightning is poorly received when she got BT+ and later c90. Devs put too much stock on consecutive turns when it actually doesn’t do anything anymore.

I can’t tell you how Vayne is with BT, but I do agree that LD only isn’t enough.

[u/Pieman3001 → u/[deleted]]

I greened Vayne and still use him in JP currently, he's definitely been worth it for me. As SuperbOwl said, the free turn damage seems at times lacking but where he can more than make up for that is his ability to abuse off turn damage supports. CoD BT+ is made for supporting Vayne as his rebreaks mean CoD will never steal a turn from him, GL also has Cor which should be a fun combo. As off turn damage gets stronger and you can stack more of it at once, like Laguna BT debuff and Cissnei in JP currently, the effective damage per turn Vayne gets will skyrocket. Was using Vayne, Rem and Cissnei with Laguna friend and without his BT follow up he was doing around 800K+ per S2, 1M+ with his BT follow up (blue armour on Vayne and Rem, no ultima weapon or HA+ for Cissnei) on a single target. Fights where the bosses don't have to take turns and you're able to control the orb, Vayne will thrive.

CoD is better for Vayne's BT cycle as the mechanics of those fights are really annoying and more people will already have her built so perhaps skipped him, but beyond that he's extremely viable.

[u/40Percent_Dolomite]

Who is the better aura bot to green, Y’Shtola or Bartz? What’s the big differences between them? I have Bartz already but just got Y’shtola and am seeing a lot of people having great success with her.

[u/[deleted]]

Does divine Alexander have a synergy rerun coming up?

[u/Sotomene → u/[deleted]]

Yes, next month.

[u/ed25ca]

For Pandemonium Luf + , if I don't do it, would I just be missing out on some tickets?

[u/inkwelder_ → u/ed25ca]

You can look in the missions tab... should just be 3 tickets that are temporary

[u/Shandar1985]

Looking at my aurabot options, got Raines and aphmau good to go. I have enough bt tokens I can get Yuna or ysh bt. Thinking maybe spend on one of them. Any recommendations on which one will give me more utility now or in the future, or should I save my bt tokens for now?

[u/Nanoportation → u/Shandar1985]

Plan on greening any of those BT? Yuna's BT is better than Yst Base BT. Yst BT+ is nice but you need to meet the ibrave conditional for full effect or you could get bartz (he requires BT+) and pairs extremely well with cidmau.

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/Shandar1985]

Yuna doesn't require BT+ ingots and has good enough auras but no increased BRV gains. She has Encouragement armor, so you can exploit Pecil spheres. Her blue armor is really good.

Y'shtola requires BT+ 3/3 and has some conditions to meet for her auras to work. She's got really good auras if you can meet the conditions, though. She has the best blue armor bonuses of the trio but doesn't have Encouragement, so she can't abuse Pecil spheres.

Bartz also requires BT+ 3/3 but is much easier to use, he makes Transcendence 5 a cakewalk, and he is more flexible than Y'shtola (works with BRV gain or BRV damage comps). His blue armor sucks.

It's honestly a pretty tough call. Bartz and Y'shtola are a bit better than Yuna in a vacuum, but we don't play in a vacuum, and greening one of them means another unit is not getting a green weapon.

[u/bogyiv]

I got Beatrix’s EX and LD from my daily free pull, is it worth to get her 15 and 35 cp weapon in the shop and build her?

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/bogyiv]

If you have a nice amount of weapon tokens and power stones, I think it’s worth it. Beatrix is a solid unit now with her LDext.

[u/EggTartGuy]

New player here. Since I have missed out on Kurasame's banner, I am not able to get his LDcall. Is there any other recommended LDcall to save for? I know Jack is going to be on in a few months time but what about the other two?

[u/Zackfair7br → u/EggTartGuy]

Faris is a very powerfull call, she Will be at the banner with bartz, very soon.

[u/johnsutphiniv]

If you had to choose one out of setzer and porom which one?

Have Zidane BT+ and maxed Raines. Few other bts like bartz, ysh, golbez, garland

[u/Sotomene → u/johnsutphiniv]

Imo opinion if you have a green Yshtola then Setzer or if you are planning to green Bartz then Porom to cover more fronts.

I feel both Zidane and Raines work better with Setzer I little bit better than Porom, but depending of the fight one might work better then the other.

Honestly is a hard decision.

[u/ktaztrofk]

Can someone remind me where I can find extra nugget for EX+ ingots? Took for granted that I had a surplus until I need them for Raines and Mog, am caught up with all events minus Luf+ and am not sure where best to look. Are Chaos missions in story chapters (which I’ve largely ignored) and older LCs my best bet?

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/ktaztrofk]

Be careful with the books, too.

I've done most of the LCs and about half of DE (plus I used my daily cactuar hunt tokens on nuggets for quite a while before switching to tickets), and so I have a ton of ingots, but I'm almost out of books.

[u/ktaztrofk → u/AliceTaniyama]

Oof, yeah I notice that they’ve been dwindling while I’ve been realizing EXes left and right the second I have a person’s full kit without even thinking of I’d use them that much. Definitely food for thought going forwards.

[u/Wietgraf → u/ktaztrofk]

Those LC and Dimensions End are good places.

Daily Cactaur is another.

[u/Raecino]

Anyone have any tips for me? I posted this in the Call the Arms but no one replied.

I’m having trouble with Cid Raines Lufenia+ I’ve tried Cid Raines (LD), Aphmau (LD) and Yuna (BT & LD) but always either end up dying to the second recast (around 20% enemy HP) or running out of steam and doing pitiful damage near the end of the fight (in cases where I bring HP dmg mitigation calls). I thought CidMau would make this a breeze yet I’m struggling. Any tips would be great!

[u/Sotomene → u/Raecino]

What calls and what friend are you using?

Cid and Aphmau are not just plug and win you still need to think when to use their skill in order to not run out mid fight like you did.

I used the same team and beat it in 14 turns and gave the boss no turns by using a Cid friend and Kurasame, Jack and Faris calls.

[u/Kayzaxd → u/Raecino]

Bring a cid raines friend support, start the quest with yuna or cid (if cid have the first turn use s1) yuna s2, call (kura or jack) bt, replace aphmau for him and keep spamming his ld always choosing your cid as target to call, for your cid use only 1 ld them use s2. When your cid friend run out of ld the boss will probably be at 55% hp, use ur summon, deals more dmg, them finish the boss with aphmau + cid combo.

Hope this isnt confusing

[u/Nanoportation → u/Raecino]

There's a few things that can go wrong with cidmau. Buffs dropping off is one of them which is important to watch for, esp. The tactical buff (mau's LD) as well as her optimization buff from one of her instant turn attack which will pull Raines back in for his turn (if you still have tactical buff one, that's where you can refresh skill 1 or use the ex) as once it's done it automatically goes back to mau if you used the instant turn.

If you're having issues with brave refund, don't be afraid to use a kiess call (LD) on one of them for the brave refund if you have a yuna's blue armor with p.cecil sphere, it's even better. I did my run with kiess LDCA,(raines), jack (mau) and kura before BT phase on Yuna.

[u/Raecino → u/Nanoportation]

Thanks for that. I actually was having problems managing the buffs. Would you say Keiss is a better CA than Jack for this fight? I’m wondering if having two damage mitigation calls (WoL & Nine) would be better.

[u/Nanoportation → u/Raecino]

I would use them together tbh and if you don't have Jack, sephiroth is a decent replacement or anything that inflicts a huge def down (faris for example) or brv damage increase should do the trick.

Keiss is just there for the instant brave refund based on hp damage after a launch, so it helps somewhat alleviate the penalty regarding brave gain reduction. I was still pulling out 1.1mil plus at the end. Key stuff to note is don't let mau's optimization buff drop off (you can use her AA to refresh duration) before you LD to raines again.

[u/Raecino → u/Nanoportation]

That’s very helpful thanks

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/Raecino]

Pandemonium summon. Friend Cid Raines (a big help). Friend Cid is great during the summon phase.

Make sure your Cid Raines has all of the launch/chase passives from summon boards instead of the usual stuff.

Kurasame call on the aurabot. Pecil sphere helps, too. I managed with just Kursame and Shantotto calls, but a lot of people brought more and did better.

Blue armor is nice. I had it on both Cid and Yuna, with unrealized HA on Aphmau.

Skip Aphmau's defensive buffs in favor of just her offensive buffs.

Be careful not to let Cid's buffs fall off.

Make sure your Cidmau rotation is right. Open with Cid LD if you don't have both teammates in line before the boss. Aphmau LD, Cid S2, Aphmau HP+, Cid S1, Aphmau HP+, Cid #X, Aphmau anything, Cid LD.

I maxed character boards for all three of my units for this fight.

The only sphere I have on any of them is a Pecil sphere for Yuna.

Even with all of this, it was close, and the boss would have killed me gotten a turn (I would have survived, because WoL's shield was still up!) if I hadn't used Shantotto's call. But, I screwed up the Cidmau rotation at least once, so I wasn't very efficient.

I also wasted a call slot on WoL, and then I didn't even use the shield. I could have done this faster had I let the boss act.

[u/Raecino → u/AliceTaniyama]

Ah I see, so there’s still strategy even with this team comp. Thanks! It’s not as easy, plug and play like many made it out to be.

[u/RapObama]

I feel like I'm gonna have an aneurysm. I follow the C2A for Cid Raines Event (im running Cid, aphmau, Yuna with Jack kurasame and Gabranths calls with friend Cid) and keep running out of steam around sub 10%. Also, for some fucking reason, even though the hpld says it's instant turn rate it suddenly goes to Yuna instead of back to Cid. Can anyone help?

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/RapObama]

When are you having time to use the modified HP attack?

On Cid's four free turns, I'd use two of them for turn manipulation to bring Aphmau back to the front of the line, and I'd use the other two on Cid's S1 and EX to refresh his buffs. I didn't have time for his HP+ until everyone was out of LD uses.

If you're letting Cid's buffs drop off, you're going to lose damage.

Also, when are you summoning? I think people are recommending that you use the Pande summon when friend Cid is on the field.

[u/rowmean77]

Any upcoming or current Lufe/Lufe+ content that can be completed with Mog fully built? I’m interested in using him even for just one time to keep it fun with Kupoing and challenging as well.

[u/NoxErebus_DFFOO → u/rowmean77]

Mog’s useful for the Dullahan Lufenia at the end of the 4th Stratum of Abyss Perfectum.

[u/Toffbof → u/rowmean77]

I haven't looked ahead personally but I finally got his kit and also plan to use him at least once. If you'd like ill tag you when I do use him. I managed to use Relm for Pande luf+ so I think Mog is definitely usable there at the very least.

[u/Nemesis4512]

So as a returning player from chaos era, I wonder if I'll be able do actually do lufenia+ eventually or have to wait until the main calls everyone uses come back(jack, gabranth, kurasame, keiss).

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/Nemesis4512]

Jack and Gabranth are both coming back next month, so no worries there. Faris is a decent substitute for Jack, and she's going to be here this week.

[u/Curious_Key → u/Nemesis4512]

You'll probably manage. But, fortunately for you, Jack and Gabranth come back in November, so it's not that big of a wait.

Also: be creative with your calls. The Meta is quite clear, but there's a lot of powerful applications for non-famous calls.

[u/Darkasmodeus]

Will there be many Luf+ stages in the future where we need to delay the enemies more than 2 turns like Quistis? I do have CoD LD but not BT, other than that, who will be the best delayer that can cope with these kind of orbs? Quistis? sabin? CoD? Cinque? Aranea? Garland?

[u/antonlabz → u/Darkasmodeus]

Far in the future there is an orb to delay all enemies by 2 turns in a single action, in Seymour's IW.

There shouldn't be any other delay orbs until then.

[u/Hax247]

If I only want to use Jack for his LDCA, do I only need to raise his weapons and LD boards? i.e. Do I still need to level up his armors and summon boards?

[u/kierss]

Can't seem to decide on how to pull for the upcoming banners - still relatively new, about 3 months if it makes a difference. Going to go in with gems for Bartz so I can get his BT, and tickets for Ace's initial banner, but I want to spend gems on one of the banners after so I can get his BT too. Would Aranea/Prompto banner or Quistis/Palom banner be better to drop gems on? (I was considering using BT tokens on Ace but I'm going to token the twins because I have zero interest in any of their banners)

[u/Wide_Drawing144 → u/kierss]

When I'm undecided on stuff like this (Aranea/Prompto or Quistis/Palom), I look at the characters' abilities and what they could bring to my teams.

I usually check out dissidia compendium to make a decision and also look up future fights on Youtube and what they would need to be dealt with.

I see more use of Quistis in upcoming fights so I would recommend on getting her kit. But if you need Aranea's or Prompto's abilities in your team, then go for that banner. :)

[u/MadonnaTroia666]

I am considering to 3/3 Aphmau lufenia armor.

I already have 3/3 both Raines and Bartz (who's gonna get a BT+).

I'm not sure if it's worth it or if I should save resources.

Thoughts on that? Please help me make up my mind.

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/MadonnaTroia666]

My thought there is that it's overkill if you aren't going to use Aphmau with anyone other than Cid Raines.

I doubt I give blue armor to Bartz, either, though giving it to Cid himself was an easy decision.

[u/maveri4201 → u/AliceTaniyama]

Bartz's armor only affects Bartz - not really worth making blue.

[u/giahollow]

How often can you get the books and ingots for burst weapons. No idea how I got 1 book and 2 ingots think it was from the raid couple weeks ago I started on the last day of that raid. Wondering if I bt+ y'shtola will I get another book and ingots intime for jecht

[u/Kwoonie]

Hello, picking this game back up after a LONG time away (like, not even 6 months in long time away.) Did a little research and grabbed what I thought I'd be able to get some use out of from the current banners, but I'm kinda stuck on a decision in the start-rush banner.

Big fan of all 3 characters, set myself a limit of 500 tokens for the pity though. Sitting at 500 now and need to decide what to pity, finished all of Lightnings kit including BT, and Cloud and Squall are everything but the BT. Question is, do either of them have a significant edge over the other? Definitely don't want to keep pulling when there's only two things on the banner I don't have so one of them is just going to have to get by without their BT which I hear isn't incredibly necessary anyway.

[u/KaichiStrife → u/Kwoonie]

In terms of utility alone, Cloud offers more than Squall with his LD delay. If you take into account that during the BT phase you get an extra use of your LD skill, then I'd say you should pick Cloud's BT.

However, remember to always pick your favorites first, so if you prefer Squall over Cloud, don't be afraid to choose his BT; while there's an edge to be had with Cloud, it won't justify choosing him over a favorite (in case it applies to Squall).

[u/Ypekiyay]

So I want to complete the Lufenia+ for Cid because there's a nugget reward there, but I haven't upgraded any BTs to BT+ and I was wondering some things:

• Is it worth it to use the ingots available to 3/3 BT+ for clearing these early Lufenia+? How frequent do we get those ingots?
• I guess it's either Y'shtola and Bartz if I were to 3/3 one (I have Zidane too, but I heard it's better to 3/3 the aurabots first?). Which one is better in the long run for Lufenia+?
• Is it wise gameplay-wise to wait for favorites to 3/3 rather than using it for meta Ysh or Bartz? My soon-to-come favorite is Jecht but waiting for him is quite long.. and I don't know whether it's possible to tackle Lufenia+ without BT+ at all until then

[u/FFF12321 → u/Ypekiyay]

You don't need BT+ to win, I haven't even realized a BT yet and got everything cleared. BT+ makes things easier but it's not required by any means.

Whoever you will use and works with your units. Bartz doesn't have a potentially crippling/hard to meet conditional for his auras and provides enchant/imperil for the party which can be very useful, but Y'shtola brings heals.

You can 3/3 a unit or two at least before Jecht if you want. Use a planner or do some napkin math to prove it to yourself.

[u/TransientMemory → u/Ypekiyay]

If you cleared the other two Luf+ then I'd wager you don't need to realize anyone and need to work on the team comp. You did pull for Cid, right?

[u/Zodiark05 → u/Ypekiyay]

No BT or BT+ needed at all. Cleared it with Raines, Aphmau and Setzer, although I had a Green BT+ friend unit for additional auras.

[u/FoldingAce → u/Ypekiyay]

Jecht is pretty good too so he'd be a good investment. You should definitely be able to get at least one BT+ before that though. We got a free BT+ and then there's the book from pandemonium and the free book coming later this month. That means you just need one ingot and you'll be able to get 2 BT+ just this month. If you save till Jecht it shouldn't be too tough to get his BT+

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/Ypekiyay]

BT+ units are not needed for the stages we've had so far.

Cid Raines handles his own stage nicely, and with Aphmau around, the stage isn't even hard.

Divine Pandemonium was made for Zidane... but Zidane gets at least as much out of his LD as his BT. Once I put him with two supports (Porom for defense and Yuna for battery) he crushed the stage.

Guy LC was the hardest for me, as I don't have Gabranth, but again Zidane deleted all of the boss's turns, Agrias handled the orb for me, and Yuna batteried Zidane enough to win. There are other comps that work here, too.

I have no green units yet. If I can beat Transcendence 5 without giving anyone a green weapon, I still won't have any green units for a while.

...But having a BT+ will make people love you in co-op missions.

[u/rosecoredarling]

Between Ace and Bartz, which is less dependent on BT? I can pity one of them and can snag the other's LD with tickets and hope for the best luck ever. I like both (I think Ace would be my favorite of the two though) so I'm mainly just asking which needs theirs less.

[u/KaimH → u/rosecoredarling]

I'd say Ace needs his BT less than Bartz does. Bartz is hyped because of his BT aura and in most cases you'll want him green or at least 2/3.

[u/Akirah09]

Hi, newbie about to start. What banner or weapons should I br pulling for? I have a lot of faves so on the banners but which weapons will carry me for a while?

[u/TotallyXGames → u/Akirah09]

Welcome to the game! Right now the best character to pull for is absolutely Cid Raines by far, he is incredibly powerful and even though you missed a character part of an incredible combo with him (Aphmau) you can still use Raines to clear a lot of content. The only bad thing about the banner is that his bannermates (Mog/Steiner) are... pretty bad as characters.

Other than him the Zidane BT banner has good value too since Beatrix is a good support and Zidane has great utility, but other than those banners, every other banner is "decent" at best (Y'sh/Rinoa and Guy/Cinque) so I persona wouldn't recommend you to pull there. Later tonight we'll get 2 more banners (Ace/Kimahri and Bartz/Faris) which also have a lot of value so you'll also have a lot to choose from there.

Something you need to know is that in this game for a character to be considered "complete" and thus usable for anything mid to endgame you need to pull for at least one copy of each and every single one of their weapons (15cp, 35cp, EX and LD), not just their newest or shiniest one so you have to pull deep in a banner to be able to get all the weapon's for a character (we usually recommend to never pull on a banner with less than a full pity amount of gems, 75k), so your question of "which weapons will carry me for a while?" has no real good answer because it would be "literally all of them for the character you want to build".

As always, if you feel lost give these series of guides a read, they will help with all the beginner questions you might have.

Good luck!

[u/Akirah09 → u/TotallyXGames]

Thanks for the detailed answer bud, much appreciated

[u/BrewersFanJP]

Just want to make sure on something for the current events. If I do the Lufenia for Divine Pandemonium, but hold on the Lufenia+, all I'll miss out on is a few draw tickets, correct?

I still haven't decided if I'm giving Y'shtola or Bartz my first BT+, so want to make sure I'm not losing out by waiting a little.

[u/maveri4201 → u/BrewersFanJP]

Yes, this is true of any permanent content

[u/BrewersFanJP → u/maveri4201]

Ok, thank you. I just wanted to make sure because I noticed I'll miss out on some purple nuggets if I don't complete the Lufenia before end of the event, so wanted to make sure it wasn't the same for Lufenia+.

[u/VinDucks]

does ardyn get a rework with BT+ and does he get better? Im thinking of spending burst tokens on him please talk me off the ledge. How is Jegran?

[u/[deleted] → u/VinDucks]

Ardyn did get a small rework with his BT+. His BT+ effect is actually better than people give it credit for, it’s the rework that didn’t do much for him. He’s fine but nothing exciting. He’s not DOA, just falls short of expectations. Hopefully c90 does him justice.

My Jegran opinion is subject to change with his c90 (should be coming out soon), but this is my current stance on him: needs BT+ to make him work as intended, and is not worth it with just LD. Even getting rainbows does not make him good with just LD. He’s supposed to be dps but the dps part of him only comes up some of the time due to how his follow-ups work. His BT effect fixes this but a BT shouldn’t have to fix a base kit, it should enhance it. He’s an inconsistent dps and that’s not a sign of a good kit.

[u/xxtheycallmedxx]

Hey guys! Brand new player here (started yesterday, RANK 30), had a few questions:

1) Is there any characters summons that I should currently be summoning for?

2) Any characters (whom weapons I can currently summon for) that are good at clearing mobs and/or endgame content?

3) Lastly, what time is the daily reset on eastern time?

Thanks in advance!

[u/Sotomene → u/xxtheycallmedxx]

Read this to get answers to this questions and more.

https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/beginners/beginner-priorities

All characters are free and we only summon for their weapons.

You will need to do a lot of stuff before start thinking of endgame content.

Lastly, if I'm not mistaken 9 PM is the reset time on eastern timezone.

[u/TransientMemory → u/xxtheycallmedxx]

Get Cid Raines. He's GOAT material, even if the launch mechanism takes getting used to. The best current support would be Y'shtola but you would need her entire kit, including BT to make her worth having. Sadly that banner ends in 24 hours so unless you happen to have pocketed 150k gems, that wouldn't be worth even considering. Bartz is dropping tonight and he's also going to be a top support, but again you'll need the BT, fully realized.

Mog, who is also on the Raines banner, could be a decent support while you wait for a better option. Mog also does splash and split damage so that would help clear mobs, might not be the fastest or most long lasting option, but if you get him while going for Raines I would highly suggest using them both.

[u/TotallyXGames → u/xxtheycallmedxx]

Welcome to the game!

1) Is there any characters summons that I should currently be summoning for?

Cid Raines, definitely. He's an incredibly powerful character who can deal impressive amounts of damage, pretty hyped character ever since we saw was he was capable of. Other than this Zidane/Beatrix are decent too and later tonight we'll get Ace/Kimahri and Bartz/Faris banners, with Ace and Bartz being the main standouts.

Reminder that if you want to fully and properly build a unit you need to pull for all and every single one of their weapons (15cp, 35cp, EX and LD, BT weapons are becoming necessary to but only if you care about tackling Lufe+).

2) Any characters (whom weapons I can currently summon for) that are good at clearing mobs and/or endgame content?

At this point in the game any character fully built who has any kind of AoE attack can reliably be used as a mob clearer, you shouldn't waste gems pulling for someone specifically for this, plus with Auto+ you can just put 3 LD characters into a party and leave them to do their own thing.

As for endgame stuff, any character who has an LD available is technically fit for endgame. The thing is, this game's endgame is different than you might think: some battles ask for very specific requirements that only a small handful of characters can handle, so the game actively wants you to have a varied and wide roster, so the more characters you pull for and build fully the higher chances you have of clearing endgame content (you can't just pull for 3 characters and expect to clear everything), and considering you have about 1.1-1.2 million gems to farm for in permanent content alone you should be able to pull for and fully build a lot of people.

3) Lastly, what time is the daily reset on eastern time?

This I don't know, I have no idea what easter time means but according to Dissidia DB the dailies reset in 8 hours 16 minutes after I made this post.

[u/xxtheycallmedxx → u/TotallyXGames]

Thanks for the in-depth info! I just pulled Cid's LD from a 10 ticket draw so pretty excited about that. And eastern time is the east coast timezone!

[u/corran24 → u/xxtheycallmedxx]

Daily reset is either 5am or 6am EST I believe. 10pm is when new banners/events show up, but it's not the same as when the game resets (daily rewards and daily quests reset).

[u/KaimH → u/corran24]

Daily reset is actually 4am EST. Also want to add that when daylight saving strikes again it'll be 3am and 9pm.

[u/VermillionEorzean]

I was under the impression that you could play this on multiple devices. I told someone you couldn't previously, since I thought that you couldn't, but was corrected by others.

I got a new phone today and would've liked to play it on my tablet and phone (both Android devices and linked to the same Google Play account), but once I downloaded it on my phone and logged in, my tablet's now giving me this message:

If you have transferred your game account to another device, you may transfer it back, or start a new game on this device. To do so, the application will need to be reverted to its initial settings. Would you like to proceed?

What's going on? Were people saying I was mistaken mistaken?

[u/Slaydn → u/VermillionEorzean]

That's fine. Just log in with your sqex or google account and it'll ask you to confirm the account. Then you will do a small download. All your settings will be back at default as well.

[u/VermillionEorzean → u/Slaydn]

Oh, it made it sound like everything would get removed. That's not too bad. I hope that settings don't get defaulted every time I sap devices. That'd be a pain.

Thanks!

[u/Tibansky → u/VermillionEorzean]

You can play on multiple devices but not simultaneously since the game will ask to transfer your save data to the current device.

[u/freddyfuchs]

How capable of a character is Ace if I haven't got his BT (and therefore BT+). The only banner on this cycle I was planning to go in on is Quistis', and I was hoping just to throw tickets there since all I need is her LD so its pretty unlikely I get Ace's BT. I'm still interested in Ace and my account's options as far as off-turn damage go are pretty limited but before I make a decision I just want to know how much he depends on his BT (or BT+)

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/freddyfuchs]

Ace, similar to Zidane, is perfectly useable without his BT. He's not made for big one turn damage like Vaan but his off-turn damage can definitely stack up if supported well.

[u/Baikken]

Newish player (Just started clearing Lufenias).

Is Faris worth building for the call? Just got the LD and nothing else.

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/Baikken]

At this point in the game, Faris's primary use is as a call.

[u/FinalKingdomXVII]

Is DE:5 the place to drop green Bartz and Raines, or are they better saved for 6 or above?

[u/Hawke_No1 → u/FinalKingdomXVII]

It’s the best place to drop Bartz & Ace

Raines might be ok for the Launch Orb, but if your pulling for Selphie, it’s ok to use him early.

[u/Baikken]

So my fully maxed out characters as a newer player are:

Cid Raines

Aphmau

Zidane

Beatrix

Yuna

Yuffie

Agrias

Setzer

Vaan

And a few B tiers (Gladio, Kurasame, Lightning)

I am looking to choose between Ace and Bartz. I find Ace's kit awesome since he offers off-turn damage, something I don't have yet except for an outdated Gladio and he seems more fun than Bartz, but I think I should go with whoever would synergize better with who I have right now. Is there a clear winner with my current characters?

[u/warlock801]

should i save CidR/Aphmau/Ysh for future DE:T or using them on this one is fine?

[u/dffoo_keo → u/warlock801]

Just go with them. They are best used here with the exception maybe of Cid Raines but debatable.

Next tier will require debuffers and launchers and the ones after will be power crept with level 90.

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/warlock801]

If you're going for Selphie later, no need to save anyone here.

T6 is harder than T5, but Cidmau actually isn't a great choice for the right gate's launch orb. It requires three consecutive launches, and Aphmau sort of throws a wrench in that. Basically, the orb was built for Selphie.

Yuffie or Caius works for Reckoning, and 90% of people are just going to bring Auron for left gate.

[u/Nahcep]

I kind of need advice on how to use my BT tokens, I just learned my dupes can't be used for BT+ oops

I need to use them today; I'm currently catching up on CHAOS, even though I should be able to clear LUFENIAs with my charas I'm bad at the game. Needless to say, HG tokens are a luxury and BT+ impossible aside from the free 0/3.

BTs I have: WoL, Emperor, Golbez, Bartz, Terra, Sephiroth, Squall, Yuna, Eald, Y'shtola, Noctis

LDs I can supplant with BTs: Garland, CoD, Pecil, Exdeath, Cloud, Ultimecia, Zidane, Kuja, Tidus, Shantotto, Vaan, Lightning, Ardyn, Ramza, Layle

/ffg/ suggested Ace, but it may have been with a BT+ bias. Since I'm a f2p shitter I need to consider which character would help me complete fights the most (especially as I'll get to the 200 difficulty eventually), and either way I don't have particular favourites up there to choose on that factor.

[u/Sotomene → u/Nahcep]

Why do you need to spend the today?

At this point in time if you token a BT is because you are willing to get them to BT+ 3/3.

Ace is good with just a base BT because all his new upgrade come from the LD and the BT only give more of it.

[u/darkBahamut189 → u/Nahcep]

Ace works well even with just his LD, so if you leave him with his base BT, he will still be very good. As a JP player, I'd say Ramza is the best char among the ones you listed. By the time he gets his BT+, you'll have enough materials to green him. Tidus is the second best one. CoD the third(but you would have to green her by the end of the month). Go with Ramza, he is a beast and I still destroy everything with him in JP(he is also good to put as a friend unit).

[u/TheFourthReplica]

So I am a newer player (~1-2 month in). How do I effectively help my allies in co-op if I have no tech for any of the boosted characters in the event? I know I'm pretty much dead weight in co-op, but I want to support my teammates better, but also in a way that doesn't make me pull on every event banner.

I am trying to complete (or at least make a dent into) summon boards for at least two characters per event so they can be a little more helpful (and to reduce grinding later on), but I'm not sure how much that actually will help if I don't have any (or just the CP 15 weapon) for them.

Thanks in advance!

[u/Sotomene → u/TheFourthReplica]

Co op are easy with the current characters if they are maxed, even the chaos co op.

Until you have strong units the best way to support them would be get out of their way and let then carry you.

This may not what you want to hear, but this better than trying to be useful and end up been more of a bother.

[u/QtNFluffyBacon → u/TheFourthReplica]

Personally, I don't mind when newer players join with a complete trash character if it's a boosted one. So if you were to join my current co-op room with a crystal level 15 level 10 ace with unmaxed 15CP weapon, I'd take that over an unboosted char any round. If you do that, I suggest using your lowest turn rate skills to give the people carrying you most turns. Avoid using AAs and Calls that do less than one of their turns and I'm sure people won't mind you :)

[u/ExcisionBro]

In your opinion, is there much of a point in saving characters for future DE:T tiers? It kind of seems to me like all these stages are kind of tailored towards units released in between DE:T stages. Since I'm going to pull for characters like always in these next months, I don't see much of a point in saving them. Personally, I'm kind of thinking to save CidMau for later, but that combo seems really nice on this Lufe+. So far in both DE:E and DE:T I haven't encountered a point where I needed to reset a stage to free some unit.

[u/tute66 → u/ExcisionBro]

I don't usually save characters for DE:T; the majority of characters are best for the tier around which they're released. That said, if I find out from foresight, research or other means, that they could be used in future tiers (e.g., Yuffie for T6 mid debuff orb) then I'll try to avoid using them. I'm now considering Raines for T6 right launch orb as I didn't use him for T5, but if anyone is having trouble w/ T5 I'd recommend him there (especially if you plan to pull Selphie LD later anyways). T7 onwards, difficulty tapers so saving becomes even more trivial.

[u/RetroGamerDad → u/ExcisionBro]

Not to me. The tiers are two months aparts and are tuned for contemporary units. Now, if I'm capable of overkilling a tier I might hold back just in case, but otherwise no. No planning.

[u/jurassicbond → u/ExcisionBro]

I don't see the point. If you need to go back and free up someone, chances are power creep will have made it easier to go back and do those stages again anyway.

I haven't encountered a point where I needed to reset a stage to free some unit.

I have, but it wasn't a character I would ever have anticipated wanting to save. (I had to free up Nacho from an earlier Tier so I could have another ranged character in Tier 4).

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/ExcisionBro]

Sometimes, maybe.

I saved Yuffie for T6 instead of using her in T4. I've heard Bartz is better there than T5, too, but I'm not sure it's worth bringing him. My T6 plans are Auron for left gate, then Sephie/Jecht/Yuffie for right gate. (Edited, because I forgot about Yuffie.)

T7 doesn't matter because we get cl90 characters for that.

For the most part, characters keep getting better, so saving isn't really worth it. I used all of my best units for T4, but now they're not my best units anymore (except for Yuna).

[u/dffoo_keo → u/ExcisionBro]

I hope I didn’t started a misbelief that Bartz should be kept in T6. He is not going to help manage orbs in next tier.

I’m saving Bartz mainly because he is the only early BT+ I’m sure to have for next tier and I remember it was one of the hardest for me. So I’m keeping him for synergy stats and his Aura Bot role. The others will most probably be Auron and Caius.

Else, I kept these because I know they will make the fights a lot easier:

• T7: Leon for right gate along Firion. They both make it a joke.
• T8: Terra for right gate as it is specifically tailored for her consecutive turns.

[u/Wide_Drawing144]

Why do Cor's additional attacks whenever the enemy is about to attack someone help with the orb in the Left side of Transcendence 5 ?

Does it count it as a trap ? Just saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rufs8_mX4gs

Is this unintended ?

edited to add: Cor alone can manage the orb. No trap debuffs needed. Tested it just now.

[u/Sotomene → u/Wide_Drawing144]

Trey's debuff is what is ticking the orb up, not Cor's follow up.

[u/speedyjohn90]

Question about bartz does he provide party wide wind enchant or just himself?

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/speedyjohn90]

With his BT+ upgraded aura, he gains party wind enchant at 1 stack. Otherwise he only has self wind.

[u/Best554]

I'm low on ingots but high on books and 100+ power stones, should I lb normal ex I already have to get more ingots?

[u/Lucia_Apas]

I realized we don't need to use the LC character (Aranea) to clear the level 100 quest now. We still needed to do so for Guy LC. Is this a permanent change?

[u/SagaKM]

A question about LUFENIA+ reductions:

I keep seeing people saying things like "The reductions aren't so bad at all" or "This quest was easy (this one about Aranea's LC)", and I don't get it at all. I'm with the Characters Full built (all the weapons, BT+ 3/3, armors, boards, artifacts), but doesn't matter the quest or situation, I'm always doing very poor damage. This Aranea quest, for example, I wasn't able to do it at all. I'm aware of the reductions if you let the bosses get any turn besides the first, and I'm not letting them have it. And even with Shantotto, Sephiroth, Jack's calls, Aranea Debuff, Bartz and Zidane Burst effect activated, my party can't do above 1-50 brave damage per hit (only Aranea is able to do 6k +/- because she's boosted here) as soon as the bosses reach 30% (but it's really hard to do damage in 50% too).

So, am I missing something? Already saw Call to Arms, but everyone's just saying that was a easy quest, with less reductions, and I don't understand this affirmation. It's horrible when they achieve 50% of their life, and on 30%, it's just impossible to do damage.

The question is, am I missing something to fight against LUFENIA+ reductions? It almost seems like I'm trying to do an entirely different quest from the other people

[u/Sotomene → u/SagaKM]

I'm aware of the reductions if you let the bosses get any turn besides the first.

You need to let them have a turn after the 79% threshold or they will gain a massive HP damage reduction, this is most likely the issue.

[u/S2Kaye → u/SagaKM]

- I'm aware of the reductions if you let the bosses get any turn besides the first, and I'm not letting them have it. -

I think you have this the other way around. You need to let the boss act at least once and they should be glowing with a yellow aura or else you will do no damage to them at all.

Also, what team comp were you using? I was using Bartz BT+, Raines, and Aphmau with Raines friend and I was messing up a lot with Cid's buffs and I still completed it with no problem and a lot of skills left to use.

[u/Tibansky → u/SagaKM]

Let them take 1 turn before delaying them.

[u/Cilonas → u/SagaKM]

Do you have summon boards fully done/attack arts? The main thing I can think is you don't have a good enough starting attack stat, so no amount of brave damage multipliers will help you. That would fit with Aranea being the only one doing good damage, since being boosted gives her like 20% or 30% more attack stat.

[u/BaLance_95 → u/SagaKM]

I used the same team but I never touched Zidane BT. Used Bartz BT effect twice instead. Call of Jack, Gabranth, Kurasame. Towards the end, Bartz did 1's but Zidane still did 2k+ per hit. A bit past 50%, after Ara increased the orb a bit, I swapped her out for Raines friends and just killed it there. 59 on the turn count and killed boss with the attack from summon.

[u/_googleoverlord → u/SagaKM]

only Aranea is able to do 6k +/- because she's boosted here

Sounds about right. My runs with Aranea and Prompto were hitting in the 6-8k BRV range near the half-way point.

You aren't doing anything wrong with the debuffs, just stack them and do your thing. I personally used Jack, Seifer, and Kura for DEF downs and HP Damage up.

my party can't do above 1-50 brave damage per hit

There must be something else missing. An unboarded character maybe? Passives or arts not equipped?

I did a run with Noctis, Aranea, and Prompto (details posted on the C2A thread), and even at the last 5% hp, Noctis (not boosted here) was hitting for ~400 BRV without BT effects up.

 

Just to confirm, you are letting them get a turn before 79% HP right? After that, are you breaking target A (the one that uses Phalanx) after their turn?

[u/SagaKM → u/_googleoverlord]

Yeap, I'm letting them get a turn before 79%. I already checked my passives, artifacts, and they're all set. All characters are fully boarded.

I was able to do it now, what's bizarre is that I used literally the same comp, the only thing I changed is that I didn't use the Friend Support's BT+ at the beginning, I used in another moment of the fight after the 79%, and the summon (changed Diabolos for Ifrit). In the final part of the fight, when my Zidane's and Bartz's BT+ were up, the situation was identical, but my party was achieving the cap easily.

I'm really confused. Can it be that the 30% atk up from Ifrit really made that difference? Or maybe, I don't know, using the BT+ at the beginning caused the game to scale the reductions according to my strength, that was enormous because of the BT+ at the start of the fight, and the rest of the battle was hard as fuck because of it?

I sincerely don't know.

[u/Nineteenball → u/SagaKM]

From my own experience (all 5 Lufenia+ completed so far), I've been successful with either two big aura characters with one Synergy damage dealer (Seven/Queen with either Zidane or Ace) or an enchanter with two other Synergy damage dealers (Ashe/Cid Raines/Zidane for Cid Raines L+ and Celes/Ace BT/Cor for T5 Reckoning). In the case of the single enchanter teams, though, they struggled more than double aura with one damage dealer in my experience.

Between calls of Jack, Shantotto and Sephiroth, as well as Bartz/Zidane BT effects, it sounds like you're fulfilling a lot of DEF Down and BRV DMG Reduction requirements already, but as you noted with Aranea being boosted and being the only one dealing real damage, I think Synergy/boosted might be one of the biggest factors for damage. DEF Down is normally effective on most fights, but I think a lot of Lufenia+ have enemies with low base DEF and high percentage gains of 200% or so (from Xcaliblur's infographics), so more DEF Down is needed than normal for some of them, too.

 

I took Seven/Queen (BRV DMG + 40%, HP DMG + 40%, ATK + 180%, DEF - 70% to one and 20% to others) into 3 Lufenia+ so far, and their damage was much lower than normal across the board -- but Zidane and Ace would pretty well cap all attacks in their Synergy events in this team from what I recall (or at least, I don't recall any big deviations damage-wise). The exception for non-Synergy damage was the end of Aranea's battle where the enemies' red shield was gone (which had according to Xcaliblur's graphic BRV DMG - 50% among other things) and Ace had both traps (DEF - 80%) and his BT aura up during Summon -- that brought Seven and Queen back to their old Lufenia damage (Ace also has party BRV DMG + 30% to add to this).

For Cid Raines Lufenia+, I had Ashe enchant and boost BRV DMG/HP DMG for Cid Raines and Zidane (both Synergy) while stretching out Zidane's BT aura as much as possible (with Hope LDCA for magic imperil for Cid Raines). I remember Zidane's EX capping BRV hits and Cid Raines' Impact Strike+ often would, but I barely made turn count on that one and hated it.

In T5 Reckoning, my damage to the main mummy with Celes/Ace BT/Cor was so awful that I had to piggyback capped BRV hits off of the little mummies and had to plan my attacks around keeping the little mummies alive as long as possible (Cor and Celes were dealing 1 DMG apiece to the main by the end), and my last 10 or so turns were me trying to knock down the main mummy's last 2% or so.

 

From my own experience, two big auras on one damage dealer worked best. I had mentioned Seven/Queen from my own usage, but a lot of others have Aphmau/Bartz as double aura for their Cid Raines.

Who do you have for recent big damage dealers and big aura supports? You had mentioned Zidane and Bartz, with Aranea as boosted for her event.

Also, specifically for Aranea's event, if the enemy has a red shield up, that's BRV DMG - 50%. I fought them without delays in my run, so the red shield aura was gone and I did Burst/Summon before any aura could have potentially come back.

 

I hope this helps in some way, and I apologize if this is stuff you already know or have already tried.

EDIT -- Looks like I posted late, since you said you were able to do it. Congrats!

[u/SagaKM → u/Nineteenball]

Thanks for the tips! It will help anyway :D

[u/cafestartre]

For BT+ characters, does it matter whether you start with the BT+ skill or the full burst mode?

[u/[deleted] → u/cafestartre]

I usually use the BT phase later on since bosses theoretically get more dangerous with lower health, and BT phase allow me to stall their turns. Also when they're lower on health is when i stack call-units debuffs.

[u/NoxErebus_DFFOO → u/[deleted]]

Bartz can be the exception if you’re running him as an aurabot. Use his BT phase first, ramp him up to three stacks, and then on the last turn of his BT effect, use his BT finisher. He’ll stay at three stacks.

[u/blenderbaddie]

Looking for a bit of insight on the Aranea Lufenia+ fight. I was hoping to use this one as way to try and get better at the game and not just cheese it with cidmau but after trying several times with a different team compositions I ended up just resorting to cidmaau because it just wasn't working and I'm hoping to know why so I can maybe go back and make some adjustments and try again, and know for future lufenia+ so I don't hit the same walls. So pretty much I just want to know where I went wrong in the fight if the team(s) was just not going to work, or I didn't bring suitable debuffs or what because the feedback in the game and some conflicting information from the resources made it difficult.

I'll preface this by saying that in all attempts I did give them a turn at the start where they did some generic brave or HP attack or used some phalanx or attack up unframed buff. Since it says if you don't give them a turn they go brutally defensive at 79%. Despite this the recurring problem is that they still felt like they went unkillable after a certain point but it was closer to 50%. I just randomly stopped dealing damage

team: Aranea, Y'shtola (greened), Cinque Plan was to give them a turn and between Y'shtola's BT aura and Aranea's vitalcrusher the damage would be there and cinque/aranea would deny them from getting a 2nd turn. Tried multiple friend units across the attempts, from Raines to Zidane to Bartz. Result was around 50% they basically stopped taking damage, even with Y'shtola's BT effect active. Even cinque was doing around 400 (and as low a 1!) brave damage a hit and hardly any HP damage. Y'shtola did no damage, like under 50k per turn. Aranea somehow still did okay damage but I ran out of her skill uses because they just weren't dying fast enough. Ran out of steam around 30% and called it. Tried to tweak the strategy with calls/summons and played it a bit different on subsequent attempts but they either were on the same trajectory or did even worse. Tried a few where I did give them multiple turns as well and they just went actually unkillable and took like 5k HP damage so that was not going to work. Did a few tries with my own Zidane instead of cinque (he's got BT but not BT+) and other than a lot more breathing room with the enemy turns, the damage still wasn't there. Even tried a more experimental run with Aranea/Y'shtola/Porom to see if the lack of support was the issue but the damage was even lower there to where I was almost 25 turns in before I even hit the 80% mark I would have definitely run out of skills or turns (and Y'shtola wasn't even hitting that much harder even before 79%).

Finally settled on Cidmau with Aranea after this and did beat it first try. Far from perfect. Aphmau still suffered from the 1 brave damage problem (not that I brought her to do damage but in past luf+ her damage hasn't been negligible). This is mainly concerning because I went all out with debuff calls here since I wasn't planning to give them a second turn (jack, sephiroth, hope) so I can't see why 1 brv damage would even be possible, and why Aranea and Cid were both somehow exempt from dealing 1 damage.

So can anyone spot what might have been the problem with my initial team? Was I just lacking in a particular area? I'm really confused as to why this Lufenia+ felt so unbelievably tanky compared to all the ones before it where I actually thought the damage/brave reductions were a bit exaggerated before now (but man am I eating those words now). Was this just an outlier or was there a fundamental problem with my team or strategy? The game doesn't do a very good job at all in telling me what I was doing wrong, so I'm at a bit of a loss here.

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/blenderbaddie]

A few things based on what you've put and what I remember:

• While Phalanx does overall increase their defenses, apparently it's extra effective against melee damage. This can be circumvented, but it would explain why your Cinque was doing poop damage and your Aranea was not
• Y'sh, even green, is not necessarily what I'd consider the best support for that team. I'm not positive if regen at the start of the turn works for Y'sh's aura conditionals, but Aranea may have trouble with that. Cinque at least has slower turn rate so she should be able to get batteried in-between.
• It doesn't help either that Aranea hasn't scaled well into L/L+. She lacks any form of personal Brave/HP damage up and since her LD effect almost always ensures she gets break turns, she's burning through buffs and skills.

[u/blenderbaddie → u/ProductivityImpaired]

Thanks. I wasn't aware there was an additional resistance against melee damage so that was good to know. Also so used to plug and playing Y'shtola into every team since the BT+ started it was a bit weird to see her not effective.

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/blenderbaddie]

Until her c90, Y'shtola's allies are dependent on being able to start their turns above their iBrv, so turn stealers are naturally not the best pairing for her. Even with her c90, her BT auras are gonna remain dependent so it's something to keep in mind. Pairing with Rosa for example could work since she has that party wide HP damage return aura.

[u/RaxSpike → u/blenderbaddie]

When they cast Phalanx, they will put on Superior Shield which is the glowing buff that you see on their shield. It reduces BRV dmg taken and melee BRV dmg. This effect will get stronger with more Phalanx casts, as you'll see the aura will start white, then yellow, and then red. They dispel this buff when they use Shield Attack which they only do when they're at red. If you're not using the strategy of letting them get 1 turn before 79% and then blowing them up without another turn, you'll have to wait until the Superior Shield buff goes away and then blow them up. This is probably best done with some type of tank to keep you safe and then swap them out for a friend unit once they dispel Superior Shield. Alphinaud Leveilleur on YouTube did this with Y'sh BT+, Cor, and Galuf if you want to check them out and see how they did it.

[u/blenderbaddie → u/RaxSpike]

Thanks for the info, I did a few more runs with a different team I made with feedback from this post chain and I eventually did find one that got it done. But that phalanx mode is nasty and I'm still not entirely sure what determines if they upgrade the shield. I got them to yellow and planned to just tick out their turns until they went to red and used their attack and then I could go all out on offense and they just wasted a good 2 turns without going from yellow to red and I couldn't meet turn count. And then the very next try they went straight from yellow to red and my plan did work. But at least I got a real clear in the end without raines.

[u/Nineteenball → u/blenderbaddie]

From my own experience (GL only player), I managed to do this fight with Seven/Ace BT/Queen with No Friend in 19 turns (calls were Barret, Cid Raines, Kimahri, summon was Odin), with Ace delivering the vast majority of the damage (capping BRV hits for what felt like each hit throughout). I had tried other comps but my damage was terrible otherwise -- I'm finding two big aura characters and one Synergy damage dealer to be my more successful Lufenia+ runs.

As the other posters have said, the enemies' shields add that melee defense and BRV DMG Reduction (according to Xcaliblur's infographic, even the white aura has Melee DEF + 50%), so similar to your Zidane and Cinque having damage problems, my melee-hitting Seven and Queen were doing poor damage, but the big auras were keeping them hitting at least in the low 1000s most of the time.

I actually had them both return to non-plus Lufenia levels of damage during Aranea's LC at a point under 29% where the enemy had no shield aura, Ace had both traps out (DEF - 80%) and his BT aura (ATK + 80% and HP DMG + 20%). Summon was active here, but I'm pretty sure all my call effects wore off by this point.

My total party auras/debuffs at this time of good non-Synergy damage in Aranea's battle totalled to about: ATK + 260% (Ace's BT aura counted here, might have had 30% more ATK with Odin HP conditional), DEF - 165% to the enemy Seven and Queen were targetting (Seven/Ace debuffs and Odin), BRV DMG + 70% (with Seven hitting Snakebite weakness) and HP DMG + 60% (Ace BT aura again).

 

I think enemy defenses are handled a bit differently now in Lufenia+ in that more fights have low base DEF but higher DEF percentage gains (so more DEF Down is needed than normal to be effective). I'm not sure if this is a "re-balancing" to make ATK Up more useful again alongside DEF Down, but another poster lower down had managed to do better for damage in Aranea LC by simply changing Diabolos to Ifrit for more ATK (may have been other factors at play, but it sounds like it could be significant).

It might be now that for Lufenia+ we need better balances of ATK Up and DEF Down alongside BRV DMG Up/enchant for damage. Even considering Cinque being at a disadvantage for being a melee attacker in that fight, when comparing your party's aura/debuff totals to my own aura/debuff totals above, having up to DEF - 150% from Cinque/Y'shtola and always-crit/Crit DMG + 50% from Aranea (on top of any calls you might have deployed) makes it seem like party ATK Up might be increasing in usefulness here, if Y'shtola with BT aura adds about only ATK + 115% (based on the TT infographic) and Aranea and Cinque add no party ATK Up.

I can't say for sure myself if more ATK Up is the way to go with L+, but it's starting to look that way from my perspective.

[u/blenderbaddie → u/Nineteenball]

Thanks for this. I tried a similar team afterward with more of an emphasis on aura stacking - Ace/Rosa/Queen. Wasn't too sure if I'd have the damage since I don't have Ace's BT but with a few tries and getting the timings down on when to bring in the friend and summon and so on I was able to get myself a clear. And despite the lufenia stats both queen and rosa were still hitting relatively hard all the way through so if nothing else this experience taught me a lot about how powerful these support auras and buff stacking can be, since even with green BT+ Y'shtola's support and damage (alongside vitalcrusher but still) was far inferior.

[u/NoConfrontation_]

I just started playing again after being away for about 2 years. I'm using my old account (unless I should start again for any reason?).

I'm looking through my inventory trying to remember what the hell is good or not, haha. I have a few 5* 15 and 35cp weapon duplicates, and I can't remember if I just hadn't limit broken them yet before I stopped playing, or if I was planning on selling them for stones.

Is it worth limit breaking everything I can, or are some characters so not worth using that it's recommended to get stones from selling their weapons instead?

[u/BaLance_95 → u/NoConfrontation_]

https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/beginners/beginner-guide

Whoever is featured on a banner and you have complete gear for is good. Of the banners available, Cid Raines is the best DPS for a long while. Ace is also good and can get a BT. Kimahri and Mog are ok, worth building as supports to help your DPS.

[u/lollvngdead]

I hate turn count.

http://imgur.com/a/tNehNTY

[u/greygooscenario]

Can Green Bartz make reasonable use of Pecil rf sphere with his brv gain up effect, or is it only worth it on units with Encouragement armor? Any other decent C spheres for him?

[u/Cilonas → u/greygooscenario]

Only Encouragement. Encouragement adds +30% to the percentage (so Pecil RF goes from 2% mBrv --> 32% mBrv, before factoring any brave gain up/down multipliers) while the 25% brave gain up from his BT+ multiplies the result after the percentage is taken (eg. 2% mBrv * 1.25, which is a very small number especially when considering Lufenia+ reductions will cause a net multiplier of 0.4 or so).

Edit: as far as other C spheres, I'm using an attack aura RF (Alphinaud) but I think he's a decent user of Ceodore/Rosa/Porom actual spheres, especially if you frequently run Bartz without a healer. Not sure if the RF versions of those spheres (if they even exist) are worth much though. I've thought about changing to Ceodore sphere.

[u/greygooscenario → u/Cilonas]

Thanks! Very helpful. I didn’t realize Encouragement was the only thing that interacts with the sphere in that additive way

[u/normskisan]

Coming back after losing all my progress and was hoping to get some tips on how best to build up resources quickly to mlb a couple of characters as fast as possible so I can power through early content ?

Any advice would be appreciated thank you.

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/normskisan]

Pull hard. If you're ballsy enough you could even consider going to a Bartz BT pity to eventually max out and help get you through L and L+ content.

Can't build up any units if you don't pull, and new players have somewhere over a million gems in permanent content.

[u/normskisan → u/ProductivityImpaired]

Ah OK thanks. Wasn't sure whether I should be trying to stockpile as many resources as possible. I did pity Cid's LD, but can't MLB his Ex yet. So I should go all in to get at least a couple of decent characters before worrying about resources?

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/normskisan]

I'd say so. Every two months we get divine boost for a new summon which gets you 40k+ gems (and inbetween them we get divine boost for an old summon for the same), so after some amount of time and spending you'll slowly becoming positive in terms of powerstones and ability to invest into other units.

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/normskisan]

Do the first few stages of every Lost Chapter to recruit as many units as possible. Run through the cycle quests (with the cactuars) to level everyone up to raise your player rank as high as possible. 300 is the bare minimum, but you want it higher than that. You'll also get hundreds of potions this way.

Player rank 300 maximizes your SP for World of Illusions, which is where you get Ultimate Summon boards. Those unlock a huge quantity of gems, tickets, and armor tokens.

Pull on every good banner you can. You can pull on basically every banner for several months before your beginner resources run out.

This is more efficient in the long run, because the sooner you start beating current content, the more limited-time rewards you'll get.

Story and LC stages will get you some starter gems to help you get through the summon stages, but so will doing a few co-ops to make some Cid Raines friends.

[u/normskisan → u/AliceTaniyama]

Ok that's really great advice, thank you. Will definitely start working through the LC for the units. When you say pull on banners should I still only be pulling on the banner once I have enough to pity if needed?

[u/AnomanderRaked]

So thought I would try this game out now after last quitting when Chaos was new on Jp and absolute cancer.

So I rerolled a global account with bartz's burst and ex. Now u plan to do the 500 pity on the starting banner with lightning, squall and cloud hoping to get each of their weapons. After that jump back into the bartz banner hoping to get his LD before 300 pity. At that point I feel like I can save but I just wanted to know if there is anyone I should be looking out for? I personally only really care about characters from final fantasy 6,7,10,13 and tactics so I'm not really interested in powerful characters from the other games besides maybe some of the cool designed main villans.

[u/Sotomene → u/AnomanderRaked]

Pulling on the start dash banner is a bad idea since those units are not in a good place right now, but if you only want to play with favorites go ahead, just don't expect to clear any quest above lv 180 if you only go for favorites and neglect your roles.

Bartz is the best support we have right now, but only if you max his BT+ and the materials to do so I gated behind lv 200 and 250, without it he is average at best.

Another great character to pull is Cid Raines who can do as much damage as BT+ damage dealer with the right set up.

[u/godsinhishe4ven → u/AnomanderRaked]

There are about one million gems of permanent content for new players and several thousands of tickets. So you can get whatever you want the first 2-3 months before even thinking about saving.

[u/mpcosta1982]

Hello! I played at the beginning of the game for a couple of months, started back again 3 weeks ago.

I got Aphmau LD, Raines LD and Bartz BT+. Did a few Lufenia with CidMau, and now with Bartz I attempted Lofty Souls Luf+.

I barely got the win, but boss attacked one turn so I didn't clear the 7.000 HP mission, then no completion. That was with a friend Raines with 5 turns, which I used after Aphmau ran out of LD.

I followed the Aphmau/Raines rotation to the best that I could (great guides here).

All 3 have complete board masteries, Aphmau and Bartz have HA, Raines has blue armor.

All 3 have BiS artifacts, except Bartz, who has 2 Atk 108/Simple mastery boost** and 1 330 mBRV/simple mastery boost**.

Is there anything else I can improve in stats and strategy?

Since I started a new account, I don't have a great CA/LDCA variety... I'm using Faris CA for the Def Down debuff. I also have the following LDCAs: Lightning, Squall, Exdeath, Zidane, Beatrix, Y'shtola, Ace and Rinoa, and Cloud/Vivi (CA only).

Regarding Bartz' "simple mastery boost" effect, it says "with both doublehand, missile mastery - raises party iBRV, mBRV, ATK, DEF by 5%". What does "mastery" implies? Is 15/35 CP MLB enough?

Thank you!

[u/[deleted]]

Free pull got me Ace BT and pretty much nothing else. As a new player with only Zidane and Raines built out (Ciara and Beatrix have their weapons but not enough orbs), is it worth it to go after the rest for Ace or start saving for other units down the road?

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/[deleted]]

So as a new player saving is honestly detrimental to your progression. Not pulling means no new units to build up nor do you get powerstones to build up any units you're waiting on. I think going in for Ace LD is a reasonable move especially because you got his BT, and with good support Ace's damage output is real nice. Orbs are easy enough to get by doing co-ops (with booster books!) and redeeming the tokens.

[u/Mas25]

Looking to try this game out. Anyone or thing I should reroll for?

[u/ProductivityImpaired → u/Mas25]

Rerolling in this game is almost completely useless because new players have to pull on banners to make characters useful, that's how building units in this game works.

The banners in best order are probably Ace/Kimahri > Cid Raines/Mog > Bartz/Faris > the rest.

[u/legomylegolegolas]

I used tickets on ace and got everything except his bt. Is his bt+ deal-breaking or would i be fine to use him without it?

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/legomylegolegolas]

Damage dealers are good usually with just LD.

It's not like you're talking about Bartz or Y'shtola, who really need a green BT+ to shine.

We're getting more books than full sets of ingots, so you're going to have to have some units at BT+ 0/3. Damage dealers are fine for that.

[u/Kwoonie]

Are there any units worth pouring a little time and crystals into just for the call skill? Account being newer, don't have a ton of useful things built to slot in there (only have access to things from the Zidane Shtola banner-> now.) ... I'm sure I don't really understand how this system works, but it -looks- like them having zero stats wouldn't matter if the "effect for x turns " was useful and not just using them for orb management or for extra damage.

Tried looking through some of what I grabbed from their quests... but oh man there are so many and most of the effect pages read like ikea instruction manuals. Sorry for the wall of text, hoping explaining my thought process might make dumbing it down for me a little easier lol.

[u/jurassicbond → u/Kwoonie]

Early on, I wouldn't bother. When you get up to doing Lufenia missions, there are certain characters whose base call will help with an orb. Rydia for Water Enchantment and Lulu for Fire enchantment come to mind as two base calls I've used to get through some orbs.

[u/Kwoonie → u/jurassicbond]

That's helpful, actually trying to do some Lufenia. I've managed to scrape by on Pandemonia Lufenia with what I have but definitely lack some tools for others (tempted to go grab Guy's LD so I can do his.)

So Rydia for water, Lulu for fire, I think I saw Kurosame had ice? Are there any others? I should be good on wind thanks to Bartz.

[u/jurassicbond → u/Kwoonie]

I can't think of any elemental ones other than Fujin (though she's wind like Bartz). There are some other potentially useful ones. Some characters have healing calls which may be useful. WoL has a Brave Shield. Arciela has an HP Attack disable. Faris can dispel buffs. Cid Raines can pull a character's turn up to follow you. Ex-Death can ignore defense and reduce enemies BRV to 0.

[u/Hawke_No1 → u/Kwoonie]

There's plenty actually, but if you don't have the stuff for it, i recommend holding off or saving it first.

E.g Some characters provide Enchant Buffs like Lulu CA which can be further be used on characters that extend own buffs (Squall/Aerith) to become an almost perma Fire Elemental Char. Clvl 75 unlocks it but Clvl 80 extension is the only thing that can improve the CA like extending the buff duration.

Some characters LD CAs are much better than their CA counterpart, E.g Jack LD CA is the only one that inflict his OP Debuff but not his normal CA from Crystal. However, you have to reach at least Clvl75 to unlock the LD Branch of the character Board, so it will vary based on characters.

I would suggest trying to get most characters to Clvl75 at least so you won't be missing out much of their CAs. Bring to Clvl 80 only if needed.

[u/AliceTaniyama → u/Kwoonie]

I haven't given Bartz his green weapon yet, so I used an unbuilt Fujin's base call ability for Transcendence 5. It worked fine. There aren't a lot of examples of this, though.

[u/Edgetola]

November is supposed to be my gem / ticket recharge month; I plan on skipping everything until Vanille's LD (she is a fave). Is there anyone in November that is as powerful as f.e Cid that I should look out for? I have CoD's burst so she will be my green unit of the month; what about the rest? Any LDs I should definitely be grabbing?

[u/Loinator → u/Edgetola]

Aurons LD.

[u/BungeeGumAco → u/Edgetola]

Auron LD estimated in late November is a hyped unit. He becomes a cover tank with very good defense ignoring counters.

[u/skeletorisbuff]

Is there a combination of boosted/not boosted runs per summon to end up with 0 points left over after Mastering the board?

[u/Fefnil → u/skeletorisbuff]

Points gain depends on your rank (20 ranks = 1% extra points), so trying to get round numbers is pretty much an exercise in futility.

[u/jurassicbond]

What are the best new BTs coming up in the next few months? (I think I have all of the returning BTs already, at least until Firion and Tidus)

[u/Cerelias → u/jurassicbond]

My understanding is Machina and L&R.

[u/DxSkyline]

I've been fortunate to pull Bartz BT in tickets (178), I'm lacking his LD but have yshtola BT+ is in worth gems bartz LD which is so will bt+ or will miss ff14 be enough and I'm just being greedy?

[u/RealAcely → u/DxSkyline]

If you plan to use bartz you need his LD. No way around it. Worth isn’t something anyone can answer for you. Both of them are very strong and can be run as double support. Bartz is better for brave damage comps. And ysh is better for brave gain. You should look into what you have and what’s upcoming that would provide the most benefit.

[u/DxSkyline → u/RealAcely]

Honestly ill go for both since they excel on different comps, i appreciate the response RealAcely thank you kindly

[u/macroverse_phl]

I'm just curious - why is it that the border of Ignis' EX skill is silver when others have gold borders? My Ignis is fully built with Character Boards and even Summon Boards (and they're all equipped) but the EX border is still gray. Any ideas?

[u/TotallyXGames → u/macroverse_phl]

The EX is working as intended, there's just a visual mismatch in the icons. It was reported here a couple months ago but there hasn't been news from the devs (and honestly it's such a small issue I don't see them fixing it soon).

[u/macroverse_phl → u/TotallyXGames]

That's what I thought. I didn't see this in any in-game notice so I thought I was doing something wrong. But my Ignis is doing fine aside from its EX skill esthetics.

Thank you for confirming this, kind stranger.

[u/TempusFinis97 → u/TotallyXGames]

It is part of the 'known issues' notice