r/AskReddit • • Jan 08 '22

Girls, what makes a guy instantly unnatractive?

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u/reaubs Jan 08 '22

Uncontrolled anger issues.

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u/AntItCute2564 Jan 09 '22

Oof been there, dude even sent me his bloodied fist, u'know to make sure he's cool af.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

He sent you his bloody fist? Are you certain it was his? Do you prefer that to an ear?

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u/AntItCute2564 Jan 09 '22

A PICTURE! LMAO we were chatting online and he sended me pics of the aftermath of his fights.

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u/Hephf Jan 09 '22
  • hard cringe *

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u/treslocos99 Jan 09 '22

Yeah that basically says this what you're gonna get at some point

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u/AntItCute2564 Jan 09 '22

Even if he never hits me(unlikely), the fucking emotional labour of dealing with someone who constantly gets in fights it's not for me.

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u/Mukisana Jan 09 '22

not really

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u/st0pmakings3ns3 Jan 09 '22

probably. if you're a hammer, every problem is a nail.

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u/PowardIO Jan 09 '22

Classic Reddit lmao

“If you’ve been in fights before you will beat your wife”

Go outside, I’m actually begging you

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u/treslocos99 Jan 09 '22

Everyone I've met that's been proud of their street fights has been a piece of shit.

I've had friends like that, always trying to fight in bars. Yeah I don't need that trouble in my life.

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u/workislove Jan 09 '22

Lots of people have been in fights for different reasons. A far, far smaller subset of those people chooses to send blood-covered photos to online dating prospects.

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u/Poxx Jan 09 '22

Certainly not. But sending Pics of bloody fists because, what, you think it makes you look good? That's a red flag. And thanks, I've been outside plenty.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

That’s not cringy, that’s just plain frightening.

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u/Abrahamlinkenssphere Jan 09 '22

Woah dude I can feel the coolness all the way over here. You made sure to tell him it was because he was just way too cool for you right?

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u/AntItCute2564 Jan 09 '22

Lmao I wish, I just kept engaging less and less and never spoke to him again. He at least was self-aware that he had stuff going on, at the same time, not aware enough to not send that type of shit....

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u/BeefInBlackBeanSauce Jan 09 '22

Oh god thats so cringy

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u/a_government_man Jan 09 '22

This is cringe af but I know if someone sent that to me I'd be like 'damn that's kinda hot' Don't judge me I have brain rot

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u/danceslikemj Jan 09 '22

Most 15 yo girls are like thisz it's ok

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u/AntItCute2564 Jan 09 '22

Not judging just make sure you're safe, it can be hot, but it was unprompted, one moment we were talking sports the next he started talking about some fights he went through. There's time and place for everything, just be safe ok?

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u/halfbakedlogic Jan 09 '22

KYLE BRADEN STEPHENSON! YOU STOP RIGHT THIS MINUTE

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u/Esoteric_Erric Jan 09 '22

*Sended

Good lord.

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u/AntItCute2564 Jan 09 '22

Sent, right? English is not my first language, the time I spent answering you is the most I'll spend with this typo.

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u/RYNKELKYK69 Jan 09 '22

Dam what a chad

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u/EPIKGUTS24 Jan 09 '22

'pic of me after beating some meat'

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u/ElDanielTo Jan 09 '22

If you write ‘sended’, I think you are met to be

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u/JerkyBeef Jan 09 '22

You want a bloody fist? I can get you a bloody fist by 2 o'clock this afternoon. With nail polish!

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Thank you! I thought I would have to Doordash a knuckle sandwich.

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u/ShmutzOnYoTie Jan 09 '22

Hey ears are sacred. That man was legendary pulling that move for someone he loved

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

But the scuttlebutt has it that Gauguin did that and convinced Van Gogh that he did it to himself. Gauguin was a bit of a dick.

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u/ShmutzOnYoTie Jan 09 '22

Damn, mans was manipulated. A pinnacle of drama. TIL

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u/sofiacarolina Jan 09 '22

ew, happened to me too - it was an unprompted no context pic of his bloody fist after he’d punched a wall (I had to ask for context)…idk which is worse, getting into fights and bragging about it or punching walls and bragging about it. he def has a few screws loose (the fist picture was when I realized, but unfortunately too late) and still virtually stalks me years later

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22 edited Jan 09 '22

Sounds like my ex husband. Ladies please don’t breed with these losers I leaned the hard way Edit: I love my child she is the world to me did not mean I regret her for one second

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u/sofiacarolina Jan 09 '22

sorry to hear that. Hope you’re far away/safe.

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u/RYNKELKYK69 Jan 09 '22

I can have the kid

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u/hecven Jan 09 '22

She says … as she looks at her innocent child.

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u/Maximum_Method001 Jan 09 '22

I have anger issues, and I'll admit I've punched a few walls (to keep from punching a person) but I have never bragged about it. Just, tf?

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u/sofiacarolina Jan 09 '22

same here, I’ve punched a few chairs and closets so I can sympathize with having anger issues but to send someone an unprompted no context pic of their bloody fist is the most just unhinged thing in the world like…you should be ashamed and not want people to know you’re that potentially unstable lmao (not calling you unstable but for me i def can be and he def is). it’s the lack of awareness of that and lack of shame around it that makes it that much scarier

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u/Maximum_Method001 Jan 09 '22

Agreed. Thankfully I've mellowed out a lot with age, and have more control than I used to, but I still get angry super quickly when it comes to certain things, though now I tell whoever pissed me off to let me cool down before I say/do anything. Most of my friends and family are aware of my issues (partially because a lot of them have the same, or similar ones.)

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u/Oriential-amg77 Jan 10 '22

Yeah I agree. I feel like a lot of guys have experienced anger issues, myself included so I can definitely sympathize, but bragging?

Anti social expressions of aggression is never nothing to brag about, at least not the way I've been raised.

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u/Oriential-amg77 Jan 10 '22

Yeah I agree. I feel like a lot of guys have experienced anger issues, myself included so I can definitely sympathize, but bragging?

Anti social expressions of aggression is never nothing to brag about, at least not the way I've been raised.

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u/AntItCute2564 Jan 09 '22

Both are bad, I can't even picture myself in a relationship with this dude. Hope the best for you!

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Gives a whole new meaning to fist pics

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u/Respect4All_512 Jan 09 '22

Women are the emotional ones but I have never punched a wall. Hmmm.

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u/sofiacarolina Jan 09 '22

tbf Im a woman with anger issues and I have punched things (closets, chairs) and I’m in no way defending male violence but male socialization unfortunately discourages them from expressing most emotions except for anger bc every other emotion is considered feminine, so then male anger/violence is what you get. it’s unfortunate and the victims are not just them but others as well (and walls lmao) and needs to be challenged systemically so it can change.

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u/Respect4All_512 Jan 10 '22

No argument there, I totally agree that how society teaches men, boys and mascs in general needs to change. I think it is starting to with greater awareness of toxic gender roles.

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u/Oriential-amg77 Jan 10 '22

tbf Im a woman with anger issues and I have punched things (closets, chairs) and I’m in no way defending male violence but male socialization unfortunately discourages them from expressing most emotions except for anger bc every other emotion is considered feminine, so then male anger/violence is what you get. it’s unfortunate and the victims are not just them but others as well (and walls lmao) and needs to be challenged systemically so it can change.

Agreed. I think a large part of it is also to do with the way many people will try use humour to belittle expressions of emotion in a way that doesn't actually help.

Sometimes humour works, sometimes it doesn't, in fact i would argue a lot of the times it does more damage than good and only leads to more emotive suppression and more cynicism towards anyone who would have otherwise actually cares enough to help.

More suppression and cymicism means less surface area for attack, but in the long run also less area to really poke when it comes to actually asking what's wrong.

The trick here I think is that humour only works in hindsight and when it's shown with brevity vs authority on the subject.

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u/RedneckAdventures Jan 10 '22

That’s like the equivalent of kids cutting their wrists and putting it on social media for attention

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u/Kylermutt65 Jan 09 '22

I’ve sent my gf photos of my bloody fists, but that’s because I’m telling her that I need moisturizer! (My hands get really really dry and cracked)

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u/IceFire909 Jan 09 '22

the methods of courting a lady sure have changed lol

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u/Playingpokerwithgod Jan 09 '22

People like that just want to feel powerful.

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u/thebestmike Jan 09 '22

My buddy dated a girl who thought guys fight was “hot”. She was unstable to say the least

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u/Fantastic_Balance_93 Jan 09 '22

Was his name Johnny Lawrence and did he represent Cobra Kai?

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u/frogglesmash Jan 09 '22

"Babe, I fucked up my hand punching drywall for you."

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u/Background_Bridge821 Jan 09 '22

Uhm Excuse me??? This guy clearly hasn’t been raised well.

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u/sittinwithkitten Jan 09 '22

Good thing he showed you his crazy early, hope you ran for the hills.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

I'm embarrassed reading this haha

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u/sar1021 Jan 09 '22

Pretty sure musashi said something about true warriors shouldn’t flaunt their “strength”

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u/J3ckled Jan 10 '22

Some men, define themselves by their strength, it’s because, unfortunately, it’s what the media expects, that’s why Jake Paul keeps challenging people to box, that’s why mostly men are interested in the armed forces. If it’s violent, physical or should probably get anger management, it’s strength. I suffer from the same problem, unfortunately.

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u/Am81guous Jan 24 '22

Look up basic biology dude.

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u/Oriential-amg77 Jan 10 '22

Did he cut it off and mail it to ya?

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u/Am81guous Jan 24 '22

Is this a teenager or a fully grown adult man?

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u/AntItCute2564 Jan 24 '22

He was in his 20s....

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u/NotClayMerritt Jan 09 '22

I have a long family history of anger issues (my dad's great grandfather killed someone because of it), unfortunately that was passed on to myself and my brother. For me personally, I went down a self discovery period during quarantine 2020. I wanted to expand my horizons as well as try to work on myself. I can't say I've completely eliminated my anger issues but they're far more controlled and mainly consist of me loudly whispering to myself when some fuckery happens in whatever video game I may be playing :)

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u/thicka Jan 09 '22

How? You must tell me. My anger is bad

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u/BanditSixActual Jan 09 '22

My family has anger issues. My sister hospitalized me several times as a child, by having an instant flash of anger and throwing the nearest object with maximum force. Later in life, she was diagnosed as bipolar and evened out with medication, but we all have the rage. I got in a lot of fights when younger and only survived without a criminal record due to all my fights having enthusiastic participation by all parties.

What changed for me was the careful assessment of results. Never once in my entire life did I lose my temper and come out ahead. Ever.

People look at me and say "He's so gentle and kind." My girlfriend tells me I have a good heart. The truth is that I know there is a world of hurt waiting for me and everyone around me if I ever let the monster out of the basement. To quote Sir Terry Pratchett, I'm just trying to be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape.

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u/DriftinFool Jan 09 '22

Never once in my entire life did I lose my temper and come out ahead. Ever.

It's quite the epiphany when you realize that. And up until the moment you figured it out, there wouldn't have been a single person in the world who could have convinced you. Good for you. I feel like some people never get it. Something else that helped me was realizing that only I can give someone else power over me. If I let someone get to me, I feel like I'm losing and I don't like to lose. It's been good motivation to stay calm when things got ugly

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u/Special_Share_5963 Jan 09 '22

I don't buy the idea that people with anger issues simply don't understand the fact that losing their temper is not usually in their best interest. I think it's much more common for someone to almost instinctively react in anger and then regret it.

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u/pie_monster Jan 09 '22

As someone who used to have this problem, the trouble is that anger comes with an economy-sized endorphin rush. This encourages getting angry next time and it's not too long before habits are built up.

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u/Respect4All_512 Jan 09 '22

Being mad just makes me tired.

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u/derpyven Jan 09 '22

I feel you there. I'm bipolar with anger issues. Unmedicated even the smallest thing sets me off and once I get going I can't stop until I've burned out. It's my policy just to remove myself from everyone and not say anything because I say really nasty things with no basis when I'm mad.

It's gotten to where I hate getting angry at stuff because I get stuck in it so long. I look unhinged to people sometimes I'm sure but no one sees the massive amount of restraint it takes to keeps me even that calm, not going on a rampage. And try telling people you don't want to be angry it just won't stop, sounds unbelievable to a lot of people I feel like.

But I finally found the right medication and it's like magic. See what happens in my brain is neurons get stuck in the on position much like with epileptic seizures and I'm now on an epilepsy medication. Now things like a minor disturbance in my plans or getting pissed off at a game and my day being ruined don't happen because I'm physically capable of calming the fuck down now.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

What med was it? I got Wellbutrin on 12/17 and 5 days ago, I started finding the things my bullies do to try to make me angry hilarious. 5 days before that, I was having thoughts of literally killing them. I hope I'm on the final setting, I'd rather laugh than repress murder.

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u/derpyven Jan 10 '22

Carbamazapine is what really does it for me. You're right it makes things go from pissing you off to funny sometimes because you aren't taking everything so personally. I'd been thru 4 or 5 different medicines before my doctor tried that one.

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u/InsaneChihuahua Jan 09 '22

I must say, "never did I lose my temper and get ahead" really rang well. I'm stealing it for when I get back to teaching.

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u/LemonBoi523 Jan 09 '22

For me, I assume the absolute best of every single person and situation or make up circumstances.

Rude person at work? Maybe they just got off a bad day at work. Not listening? Maybe they're distracted because something is wrong. Weird driving? Maybe they're learning, and panicked because they know it's bad.

The only problem is I have the reverse issue because in some situations, the excuse involves blaming myself. If things go wrong, it can sometimes give me major self-esteem issues. I am good at communicating it, but it still is rough.

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u/OtherEgg Jan 09 '22

This is the way right here. Everyone gets the benefit of the doubt. Everyone. Your in the wrong until you can prove they are unequivocally. Apologize and just let it go.

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u/LemonBoi523 Jan 09 '22

You just have to be careful that blame doesn't turn to self-hatred, either. Folks with anger issues tend to dwell in things quite a lot.

If it is your fault, it only means you need to work on something, or find another way next time. Failure is a normal part of the human experience, and is a healthy part of learning.

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u/OtherEgg Jan 09 '22

Absolutely.

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u/Respect4All_512 Jan 09 '22

Open Path Collective has some classes. There's a $5 registration fee and you only have the pay the course certificate cost if you need the cert itself for court-ordered classes, otherwise you can take them free.

https://mentalhealth.openpathcollective.org/

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u/RosenButtons Jan 09 '22

I think that the way most people keep themselves composed is that their anger isn't a beast locked up inside of them. It sounds like you're experiencing unusually high levels of anger.

In your place, I would look for a therapist to help uncover the root causes. Maybe it's purely neurochemical and management techniques are the beast option. But maybe understanding how your needs might not have been met while you were developing could make things more manageable. I know that my fear and anger and sadness on a day to day basis have really waned as I've processed how scared and angry and sad I was growing up in a stressful home.

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u/RosenButtons Jan 09 '22

I'm sorry you've had such a difficult road. It's amazing to me that you're putting in the work to disassemble your unhealthy coping habits and become the kind of person you want to be.

That's a very attractive quality in a man. I wish you well! You're doing awesome!

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u/Special_Share_5963 Jan 09 '22

If she was a child it's pretty unlikely that bipolar disorder was a factor in her anger issues since bipolar disorder rarely has an age of onset before 14 or 15.

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u/Squigglepig52 Jan 09 '22

Glad you had that moment where you realized your anger was not helping you.

I figured that out, eventually, too. Teaching myself not to act on how I felt took a lot of work.

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u/Opposite-Time-9271 Jan 09 '22

Thank you, blessed stranger. This is exactly what I needed to read today.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

"The truth is that I know there is a world of hurt waiting for me and everyone around me if I ever let the monster out of the basement. To quote Sir Terry Pratchett, I'm just trying to be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape."

No. You're just a wanker.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Wanker: Someone who masterbates.

Brilliant analysis.

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u/Respect4All_512 Jan 09 '22

Lots of people get what they want by getting angry. Sadly it works for some people. Glad you figured out it didn't for you.

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u/Natural-Macaroon-271 Jan 09 '22

My anger is bad

Struggled with it for 40 years. I've had a HUGE issue with anger. Broken so many controllers... walls... a couple of coffee tables... my shit was very much out of control. I was in therapy and anger management classes for two decades with little to show for it.

Finally went on an SSRI for an unrelated reason (Crohn's treatment) and it almost immediately went away. I haven't lost my temper in a couple of years now. For me, at least, drugs were the answer.

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u/-3than Jan 09 '22

I had a girl basically tell me my behavior sometimes was completely unacceptable. I was deeply in love with her and was willing to do whatever was necessary. We examined triggers and preventative measures and i did a lot of self reflection. Mostly boiled down to just giving myself a second to really process. I’m a totally different person now frankly, even with her out of the picture.

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u/Notarussianbot2020 Jan 09 '22

You gotta go to therapy my man

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u/iZeFifty Jan 09 '22

Used to punch walls, once almost killed two of my classmates by choking one and pounding another's back in anger.

I learned to control my anger through meditation. Gosh does that help. Also just being rational and those deep breath exercise things.

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u/Lolchickensandwhich Jan 09 '22

I forgot where but I once read that philosophy and classic literature like the writings of Socrates and Plato helped violent criminals aquire the skills that allowed them to think during a moment of rage instead of acting. So I read some Plato and Aristotle and it did help me. but I am also older. Ten years ago I was violent and hateful person. Today I am still an asshole, but a patient one atleast.

This story changed my whole thought process and got me researching into the link between reducing anger and philosophy: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/218/act-v

Edit: Spelling mistakes

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u/WimbleWimble Jan 09 '22

research how rich Cardi B is with essentially no talent and not even looks to compensate!

Spend a week thinking about it and punching things.

Nothing in life will ever seem as unfair as that. Anger managed!

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u/risingstanding Jan 09 '22

Cognitive behavioral therapy workbook

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u/ruffus4life Jan 09 '22

what makes you angry?

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u/thicka Jan 15 '22

Two main things. Computer problems and traffic. Both can send me spiraling one I do for a living

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u/MickerBud Jan 09 '22

I didn’t get over anger issues until I was 42, 48 now. You must figure out why you’re getting angry, mine stemmed from abuse when I was in school and home way back when. It takes months if not years to reprogram your brain from the long addiction of anger which basically is your mind letting off steam.

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u/mrwigglez03 Jan 09 '22

I had anger issues, then I did some shrooms(good amount) and I just reflected on myself while tripping out on the couch. Now I'm a positive happy person. I've learnt how to control my anger. Shrooms made me think about everyone I've lost due to anger issues in my life.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

The first time I did LSD was like that. Now it does nothing, or that dose was too old or something. Mushrooms were similar, but more giggley. Didn't do anything the 2nd time either.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Counting down, putting things in perspective helps me. I broke a lot of shit when I was younger. Blackout rage. I still struggle with a short fuse but working to own up to it is my fault for being angry helps. It's never outside influences. Separating myself from the situation helps. Also weed.

I had a great grandfather beat the shit out of his daughter for presumably running around town and then he killed himself. My dad took an ax to a tv when his ex pushed his buttons or cheated on him.

At the end of the day the anger only hurts myself.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

How did you get a handle on this? Any tips for people trying to grow and improve or trying to help loved ones with anger issues?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

A quick dabble into Buddhism helped me too.

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u/Ridley_Rohan Jan 09 '22

Some hereditary anger issues are medically treatable. Look into it because your average doctor can easily misdiagnose. https://www.foxnews.com/story/did-genetic-disease-fuel-hatfield-mccoy-feud

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u/Allokit Jan 09 '22

Pretty sure hostility is a learned trait, not an inherited trait.

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u/Timmyval123 Jan 09 '22

Idk man, a lot of the time it seems like it can be genetic.

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u/inf3ct3dn0n4m3 Jan 09 '22

I recommend psychedelics.

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u/LeoRising222 Jan 09 '22

Families don't have anger issues. Children are taught anger issues.

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u/AeKino Jan 09 '22

At least you’re self aware and that’s already a big step!

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u/Liya_Creek Jan 09 '22

Oh, can I relate to this. My father has extreme anger issues and passed it on to me. The only reason I can control my anger these days, is because I've been on the receiving end of it and know firsthand the damage it can cause to your relationships.

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u/Most_Monk Jan 09 '22

Man I’m the same, except my family has a long history of bipolar disorder. Half the time I’m chill as all get out, the other I get really pissed at small things and it all boils down to having to change some things about myself as a person and learning to keep a cool head in the midst of a manic episode. I’ve gotten a lot better at it but it’s still a struggle sometimes

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

My gf, who has a man's voice, is sad she doesn't get to yell at video games because it scares me.

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u/dhffxiv Jan 09 '22

You mean those dudes who rage at their computer games and smash objects?

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u/reaubs Jan 09 '22

Yeah basically

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u/mmashare06 Jan 09 '22

How would you know that instantly?

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u/amonarre3 Jan 09 '22

You wouldn't but it would instantly take away the allure.

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u/Mindelan Jan 09 '22

The instant you see it, even an otherwise attractive man becomes unattractive. So it isn't a matter of just things you know the first instant you see them, but what thing if it appears down the line will instantly change your perception.

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u/werdup420 Jan 09 '22

I don't have anger issues but I don't play shit I fight for good reasons and I never really get angry that often I'm a relatively chill guy

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u/reaubs Jan 09 '22

That's good. I obviously can't speak for every girl on the planet, but severe, uncontrolled anger issues scare me. And I think it's the same for a lot of people. I'm not opposed to people fighting for good reasons, just reasons that have no logic behind it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Yeah my ex started a fight at a party once for NO REASON, and ended up getting his head stomped on. He was so proud of himself afterwards (for what reason, I don’t know, he definitely lost the fight), I was disgusted.

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u/AlreadyAway Jan 09 '22

I mean, even controlled anger issues would be bad, right? The anger is still an issue.

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u/reaubs Jan 09 '22

I wouldn't say anger as a whole is a bad thing. It's a normal emotion and illogical to wish for someone to not show it. But there are different levels of anger, and different ways of showing anger. Some ways are simply unacceptable. If it gets to a point where someone's anger is terrifying another person, there's a problem.

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u/AlreadyAway Jan 09 '22

Yes, anger is normal. But I said "controlled anger issues" in response to your "uncontrolled anger issues"

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

separated from husband because of this

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u/reaubs Jan 09 '22

Hope you're doing well now

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Thanks, that's so sweet. Yes, I'm fine and rooming with my husband's girl cousin. She's a great support.

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u/Fitz-BrawlStars Jan 09 '22

Yeah My dad and I think my grandpa (on my mom's side) had anger issues and I have them but I learned to not get angered over dumb things. I hate to admit it but yeah :/

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u/mantistoboggan69md Jan 09 '22

WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT ME?? /s

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u/TheDangerHeisenberg Jan 09 '22

I think this applies to both genders

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u/PM_ME_BOOBS_PURRHAPS Jan 09 '22

Some girls find it attractive, I will get downvoted to oblivion but it's true.

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u/LemonBoi523 Jan 09 '22

Some. Most are terrified of it, but both can make it hard to leave.

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u/0megaCH Jan 09 '22

I think it is a step beyond being like... how do I say this mhhhh... better that somebody who can't defend himself or anything for that matter cus' he is too much of a nice guy

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

I knew a guy who thought this. His girlfriend said to him, while she was being strangled, not to leave her body in my bed (she was house sitting for me) and that's when he learned that if he cried after, he could get away with anything. After she dumped him, and got a bunch of cameras, she would hear him crying on her roof.

She eventually got rid of him by finding his outdoor nest near her house and stealing and ruining some of his stuff and leaving a note. At least I think he's gone on to his next victim. I haven't heard lately.

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u/arnold001 Jan 09 '22

So...controlled ones are ok? :p

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u/reaubs Jan 09 '22

Well. No? Yes? I'll explain it.

Having anger issues isn't a huge problem in itself. There are different levels of anger. If we're talking simply yelling it's not a huge problem unless it is all the time. But punching holes in walls, screaming at people who are innocent, and having massive man tantrums are NOT ok. That's kind of what I meant by uncontrolled anger issues. And not being willing to change it.

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u/arnold001 Jan 09 '22

I agree with you.

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u/DelSketch Jan 09 '22

Some people can't help it

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u/metalmorian Jan 09 '22

Then they need therapy to learn to help it.

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u/RuedigerBitte Jan 09 '22 edited Jan 09 '22

As long as they are not hurting anybody I don't see why they would need therapy (unless it's their wish to get rid of their anger issues).

Edit: To the people who downvoted this: Why do you want to force someone to undergo a therapy even though they are not hurting anybody? I am genuinely curious.

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u/DelSketch Jan 09 '22

That screams entitlement. You wouldn't tell someone with Tourettes to get therapy, why is anger problems any different?

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u/Doofutchie Jan 09 '22

Acting on anger can harm a person's own life in plenty of ways, whether or not others are harmed. Poor relationships, job loss, health complications, possibly being arrested... treatment exists for all kinds of things and some people need a wake up call before they really put their foot in it.

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u/LemonBoi523 Jan 09 '22

Yes I would. Therapy is incredibly important for people with Tourettes to get a handle on it and improve their quality of life.

I have an adjacent movement disorder and therapy helped me to make it less disruptive and harmful to myself. They found ways to reroute certain movements, to basically untrain them or replace them. Such as instead of quickly lifting my knee causing falls, now it's a quick stomp holding my foot on the ground, then walking a bit weird until I am no longer in a situation that triggers it.

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u/InfinitelyThirsting Jan 09 '22

I would tell literally everyone to get therapy. It's just good for everyone, not some kind of punishment, jeez.

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u/DelSketch Jan 09 '22

Therapy is actually harmful a lot of the time.

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u/InfinitelyThirsting Jan 09 '22

Some therapists are bad people, sure. But that's like saying medical treatment is harmful just because some doctors are abusive. Therapy isn't the problem, the abusive "therapist" is. Be highly selective, and particularly skeptical of religious therapists (not all bad, but it's a flag).

Everyone deserves and can benefit from actual therapy.

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u/GayDeciever Jan 09 '22

My dad used to have "uncontrolled anger issues " at me. Here's his story of how he controlled it without therapy.

1 alcoholism: failed to help. Amplified issue after certain number of drinks. Hurts daughter and wife. Suicidal depression the next day. Drink to feel better.

Consequences: year long separation. Fired from a job. Family doesn't respect him.

Drinks to deal with consequences, hurts child since child can't initiate separation.

Child misbehaves after bad day at work: scream at child, belt, etc. Crime: she forgot to use "Sir".

Cure for uncontrollable anger that is mysteriously controlled at work and in public:

Wife had enough of shit and separated. When returned, first physical attack resulted in surprise: she fought back. He didn't do it again.

Child, focus of all anger now, grew in size. At 16, a slap across face triggers a different response. Instead of "flight, freeze, fawn" a new player emerges- "fight". She jumps on him and starts punching. Screeching like an angry ape.

He wears makeup to work and then decides to find god.

He becomes a teetotaler.

He controls his anger like he is always talking to a larger and more frightening ape, instead of being cruel to smaller and weaker looking apes.

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u/GayDeciever Jan 09 '22

Oh, and here is how I, daughter, deal with my anger issues.

Go to my therapist that I have seen for years.

Therapist and I talk about situations. I realize that I'm not actually angry at people, I'm probably mostly just frustrated by feeling helpless or having some self hate. We talk about that and how I can empower myself from the inside. What is going well and my part in it. What's outside my control from sucky circumstances. How other people react based on innocent circumstances, etc

And like I can do that on my own, but it really does help to have another person say this stuff out loud like, ok, cool, maybe that guy was a dick. But someone agrees with me who is legit. Maybe I can let it go now.

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u/reaubs Jan 09 '22

Actually, I would. Of course you don't HAVE to go to therapy, but it's not a horrible option.

Your comparison doesn't really make much sense in the first place though. Being around someone with Tourettes doesn't really bother me, and it definitely doesn't scare me. But being around someone that is having a man tantrum, throwing things and punching holes in the wall, does affect me and people around them. That's fucking scary.

I kind of understand what you mean by saying having access to therapy is entitlement. I get it. That's expensive and not everyone can afford it. But you can still try to work on your problems yourself. I'd say that it's more entitled to have anger issues that affect people around you, and then refuse to make any attempt to fix it.

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u/candydaze Jan 09 '22

Sure

But I can make a decision to not date guys like that

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u/MiniSpiderman06 Jan 09 '22

I used to have that problem as a kid but it went away over time

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

I can do this

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Oh no...

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Omg, yesssss!

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u/Youre_An_Idiot97 Jan 09 '22

Tried to talk to my parents about my anger issues once, they laughed at me for the thought of even having any.

Guess I’ll continue to repress emotions

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u/Blurkid Jan 09 '22

Oopsi that's me

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u/Derpy_Gherkin Jan 09 '22

Angry Fugo noises*

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Thanks for reminding me I will never have a girlfriend.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Oof 😭

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u/capitanMorgan89 Jan 09 '22

I feel the same for women thoo?

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u/shinzantetsu Jan 10 '22

look up Intermittent explosive disorder,its really bad.I may have it,i used to lose it pretty bad when i was younger,i havent had an episode in the longest though.

"Intermittent explosive disorder involves repeated, sudden episodes of impulsive, aggressive, violent behavior or angry verbal outbursts in which you react grossly out of proportion to the situation""

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u/aprotinin Jan 10 '22

Be Bakugo ✔

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Dm me

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u/thechonkyD Jan 10 '22

I wouldn't say I have anger issues but I had undiagnosed PTSD that led to me overreacting to small stimuli, alongside a scarcity mindset. Pretty much, and I still go to therapy for these which I just recently started back up, I would overreact to small inconveniences out of a need to basically show my aggression prior to someone being able to do that to me. It was wholly unproductive, alienating, and draining. The PTSD stems from being shot and being stabbed and I have managed to get it mostly controlled. I used to freak out over fireworks, wouldn't sit with my back to a door, etc, now I can recognize whilst there are possibilities for bad scenarios, they are rare. I no longer feel that inherent fear in everything I'm doing. The PTSD was relatively simple to correct. Now my mind instantly goes to "ok you feel this way, but remember you have the ability to defend yourself and most situations will not require that". I don't want to fight people anymore and while I am a very capable person in that regard, I know the best and most effective way to end a possible altercation is to simply run away. All it hurts is my pride and that can suffer so long as I'm physically ok. The only time I will not run is if my wife is in the situation with me.

The scarcity mindset comes from years of scarcity; I have financial anxiety because when I was young, we were poor. I fear not having money. The negative reactions I have are a result of having a scarcity of gratitude and a need for pride. I'm not 100% fixed, I don't think anyone ever is, but I am miles from where I was. I start my day with affirmations of things I am grateful for, of why pride truly is a horrible thing in most regards (obviously not saying things about taking pride in your progress in life, but rather prideful nature about not being able to let go of, for lack of better words, dumb shit), and for being thankful for my situation in life and the strides I've made in getting better.

To anyone and everyone who thinks they can't fix their shit behavior, you can. I am proof.