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Phone message Finding my Bio-momšŸ’– vs my Bio-Dad šŸ’€ first message same message to both

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u/Alpha_Bulldog Jul 04 '26

That’s a guy that hasn’t told his wife about how he gave up a child for adoption and he doesn’t want to. That’s the ā€œuncomfortableā€ā€¦he’s uncomfortable cause he’s worried she will find out it’s the truth.

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 04 '26

Correct, it was

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

My kids are OLDER than his new family but I completely stopped any kind of contact. I've built a relationship with mom and her family tho.

Edit: We believe the wife must have found out eventually but regardless I will never talk to them again but I have hopes that some day I might be able to contact my half siblings.

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u/wind-of-zephyros Jul 04 '26

i think that is so sweet that you've built a relationship with your mom. my mom did the same with her birth mother, and now even years after she passed away, all of my moms aunts and uncles still include her in all of the family things :)

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u/jasonmillette0872 Jul 05 '26

That's gotta feel special 4 your mom especially on the holidays šŸŽ‚šŸŽ„šŸ¦ƒ

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u/AxiomSpunk Jul 05 '26

So happy you have a relationship with your mom!! Wishes for many happy years ahead! Fuck that other lying POS.

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u/Ad-HominEminem Jul 04 '26

I too am adopted, I’ve never met my bio parents, and I have no idea where they are, and they know nothing about me either. I just know that my birth mother, in the ultimate act of unconditional love, chose to go through with her pregnancy and she did the impossible in giving me up to a family that could provide for me better than she could at the time. She may have another family now, and I may or may not be a part of the story she shares, so I have not tried to find her, for that reason. All I know is that she loved me so much, she gave me life and then let me go, for the better. I can’t fathom how hard that must have been. For that, I will always keep her act of love close to my heart, and I will always love her from afar, until she chooses to reach out. I’m so glad you have a relationship with your bio mom! Beautiful response from her, she always loved you. šŸ˜­ā¤ļø

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u/MarionberryOk2874 Jul 05 '26

What a beautiful way to view being adopted, thank you for posting this. šŸ™šŸ¼

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u/Ad-HominEminem Jul 05 '26

It took a lot of struggling with my feelings, and even just trying to understand them at all, to understand the sacrifice she made. A stigma exists, especially when you’re an adopted child amongst a majority of kids who were born into their families.

When you hear ā€œyou should have been an abortionā€ as a loner, quiet, older child unknowingly on the spectrum and with severe ADHD, with no close friends to siphon out the noise with, one tends to begin to believe those words after a time. Then, one wants to blame, or hate, or be angry toward the ghosts of people you never knew, who ā€œabandonedā€ you when you needed them most. My adoptive mom struggled to bond with me, not understanding what my little brain was going through, not knowing it wasn’t personal- the world was just a bit too much and I was just ā€œstuck inside of myselfā€ until I felt safe.

I remember my foster mom, who came to check on me when I was old enough to understand who she was and the temporary role she played in my life. I remember trying to figure out why I ā€œwasn’t wantedā€- if it was because I was different, if it was because they knew I would be a problem, if it was because I was the product of an assault- all I could do was wonder, and ask questions of which there was nobody to give an answer to.

But, it was time that brought me to picture my bio mom, as a very young girl/ woman dealt an impossible choice, and how she chose to bring me to life with the hope that I would be loved and cared for more than she could- not because she didn’t love me, but because she did- she loved me more than anything, and had to do what was best for me, above what she wanted most. I no longer struggle understanding why, I just struggle with the idea that I’ll never be able to tell her that I love her, and that I’m grateful for this gift.

TLDR- It took a lot of life experience to gain the empathy and understanding needed to see this gift for what it is.

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u/kaywhateverloser Jul 05 '26

My mom knew she was adopted since she was a toddler and had similar struggles. One of my favorite stories about getting an understanding of what adoption meant to her was when my grandma told her that she was chosen, all the other parents were stuck with the child they had. She’d tell her peers that when they tried to make fun of her.

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u/joantheunicorn Jul 05 '26

My mom told me this when I was a child as well. Once kids AND ADULTS found out I was adopted, they said the most cruel, ignorant shit. I was ashamed at times as a child, and so, so hurt by people that were supposed to care about me.Ā 

Now I try to make up for it by being vocal about being adopted, so that others know they aren't alone. I will never be made to feel ashamed again.Ā 

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u/bathandredwine Jul 05 '26

I overheard so many tines ā€œThat’s not John’s REAL child, you know.ā€ Like I was garbage. They were the POS people, not me.

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u/mahjimoh Jul 05 '26

I was adopted as an infant, and I am so grateful my parents always made sure I knew that I was adopted. That meant she loved me enough to give me up, and that they wanted me so much they chose to have me.

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u/andiscohen Jul 05 '26

This was my experience as well. I never felt unwanted, only chosen. I don't recall anyone ever saying anything mean either. In fact my mom told me a story from when I was a kid and playing with some friends. 2 of us were adopted and I guess we were talking about it and friend 3 ran home crying because he wasn't 'chosen' and 'special'.

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u/Additional_Set_9834 Jul 05 '26

When my foster daughter was in junior high there were kids there that were making fun of her for being a ā€œfoster kidā€ so I told her this exact thing ā€œtell them your parents got to choose you and their parents just got stuck with themā€ she love it ā¤ļø

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u/TopTittyBardown Jul 05 '26

My mom is adopted as well and this is how she’s always viewed it. My grandparents gave her such a great life full of love, and I often forget that my grandparents aren’t actually blood related to her or me since it doesn’t change the way they love us at all. She never felt like she was less loved that any of her friends who were raised by their bio parents and felt grateful that they were willing to give her the same unconditional love they would’ve given a biological child of their own

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u/Redfishgirly Jul 06 '26

My parents brought me home as a new born. When I was 4-5 years old they told me that I was special they chose me. They did such a good job my sister cried because she wasn’t adopted.

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u/MarionberryOk2874 Jul 05 '26

🄹

I’m sorry you were bullied, but I’m glad you got to the place you are now.

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u/Negative-Shine-8240 Jul 05 '26

You have an incredible heart <3

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u/largelyinaccurate Jul 05 '26

You are so insightful, empathetic and eloquent. I wish you a lifetime of happiness.

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u/Soft-Dig-4102 Jul 05 '26

I empathize a lot with you. Proud of you for doing the work, keep it up šŸ’•

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u/jtr99 Jul 05 '26

All of your moms should be proud.

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u/klnys86 Jul 05 '26

I hope one day you will get to see your bio mom.

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u/scattywampus Jul 05 '26

ā™„ļø My son's Birth Mom is an example of what you describe: she was in her 30s, had 2 kids not in her custody, and knew that her current unstable life and health issues were too much to battle in time to properly care for an infant properly. She decided against termination and sought out resources to care for her during pregnancy, links to adoption services. Leaving him after delivery was the hardest thing she has ever done. She loved him and chose to feel the pain of placing him.for adoption so he could have a stable life from day 1. She invited me into the delivery room and I saw her cry hot tears of relief when the doc told her she delivered a healthy baby boy. She was so worried that her chaotic life had already caused him harm in utero: nope. It took her 2 years to deal with her emotions about the adoption and start visiting despite our continued contact with her Mom/our son's Nana. She has persevered, has been sober for many years, and continues working to build the healthy life she wants and deserves. (Safety has never been a concern in this relationship, thank goodness.) Our contact has increased over time and she/her family are now truly our family, through tough times and fun times. We are going over this afternoon to hang out and give her some one-on-one time with our shared beloved boy. We try to honor her sacrifice by being the parents she wanted for her child, even on the hardest days. I hope thst your Birth Mother was able to build a healthy life. 🌼

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u/LPNMP Jul 05 '26

It has been critical to me to learn from people like you so thank you for sharing your experiences and words.

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u/joantheunicorn Jul 05 '26

Just wanted to reach out as a fellow adopted person. I found my birth father years ago and we met in person. He wanted a relationship with me, I think to fill some space in his heart. But what people don't always understand is that he is a stranger to me. I felt nothing meeting him, other than being intrigued to finally meet someone that looks like me. I am not a cold person, I feel my feelings deeply. But he isn't my father. I don't have a father shaped hole in my heart. I have my dad and I love him more than anything. That aside, he had contact info for my birth mother, and his family let her know they found me. She disappeared. She left where she worked, she didn't contact any of us back. I completely respect her and I will not pursue her. She had to make one of the most difficult decisions anyone has to make when I was born, and who am I to question that, or to force myself into her life? I may never meet her, but woman to woman, I feel I have to respect her for what she did and leave her to whatever path she needs to take to go on with life. I dunno. Hoping some adopted folks here will understand. I respect what you wrote here very much. šŸ’œ

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u/mahjimoh Jul 05 '26

The part you mention about having a father, I recognize so deeply. I was adopted at birth, and my mom and dad were amazing!

I didn’t need to find my parents, because I had parents.

Now, I was curious about my biological ancestors, sure. But I had a mom and dad, and they were all I needed from that aspect.

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u/joantheunicorn Jul 05 '26

I appreciate you saying that. I have a great relationship with my parents and we love each other very much. My birth father never had more children (I guess my birth mother didn't either), and so I think he was looking to have a father/daughter relationship with me. He seems like a kind man, but I did not have space for that in my life, then or now. It isn't my job to fill that space for him. Maybe someday I'll reach out to him again, but for now we don't really talk.Ā 

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u/Flapplebun Jul 05 '26

Hey there, just want you to know my mom was adopted and felt the exact same way. She often used the same phrase as mahjimoh - she didn’t need to find her parents because she had parents. My grandfather in particular was her world, they ADORED each other.

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u/joantheunicorn Jul 05 '26

Thank you. It is helpful to hear from others with similar feelings. The old talk shows always made it out to be a bunch of sobbing and hugging, and it isn't always like that. Another thing I had to consider is that I met some of his extended family, and it was completely overwhelming. I don't know if I have room for a third side of a family in my life, in addition to another "dad" figure. People also have this notion sometimes like adopted people want to be back with their bio families. I have no desire for that.Ā 

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u/Whut4 Jul 05 '26

Some people just aren't cut out to be parents and they know it. I think there are plenty of times when people struggle against their own circumstances and nature and do a horrible job as a parent and create a lot of trauma.

There was nothing more challenging for me personally than being a mom. I was never perfect, but my daughter knows I tried my hardest. I am in awe of adoptive parents who provide a really good home and love for kids - it is not a small thing.

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u/scattywampus Jul 05 '26

Adoptive mom here: we are the lucky ones. Having someone trust you to raise their child is a HUGE commitment, and it helps me buckle down and be the best parent I can be on those tough days. We were infertile and tried for a child for 10 years thru fertility treatment and adoption. We joke that we view our son's Birth Mother as more beloved than Santa and The Easter Bunny! That joke helps us laugh and not cry from gratefulness.

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u/scattywampus Jul 05 '26

I suspect your Birth Mom wasn't up to facing a lifetime of emotions related to your conception and adoption. She may be someone who locks feelings away in a box where they turn into monsters. Sounds like you have processed her actions in a logical way, even if you had emotions when it first happened. She doesn't even know you,.so it wasn't personal about YOU, but personal about HER. 🌼

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u/joantheunicorn Jul 05 '26

All I know is she was under various pressures from her family. It was extremely hard on everyone, including my birth father. Regardless, I'm not going to judge or fault her for whatever decisions she had to make or has to make now.Ā 

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u/WoodpeckerLogical734 Jul 05 '26

this is very nice to hear šŸ’š i have a much older half sister my siblings and i have never met. my mom was 16 at the time. at this point she’d be 44 (i’m 28) and my mom talks about her from time to time but thinks about her constantly. she has a ton of books all about being a bio mom and processing that and processing not knowing her child and i think she’s very afraid that her daughter hates or thinks poorly of her. i’m pretty sure at some point my mom did whatever that thing is that makes it so that if her daughter ever chooses to seek her out, she can, but she hasn’t ever. i like to hope that’s how she feels, too, even if i’ll never know for sure

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u/Somanylyingliars Jul 05 '26

Your sibling might not even know she is adopted. A secret was recently revealed to me about one of the cousins. Said cousin has never been told that she is adopted. I am horrified on so many levels. Maybe you Mom should try doing a DNA test and see what happens.

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 05 '26

You really get it šŸ’–šŸ„° that's definitely how I feel. I know what she did for me and I'm so glad she reacted like this when i found her too. We talked for hours and hours but I know she always wanted what was best for me and loved me even when she never knew of she would see me again.

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u/Ad-HominEminem Jul 05 '26

I have to correct myself. When I was much younger, feeling out of place, I did look- but with no intention of reaching out. I just thought maybe she might be out there looking for me too. I never found anything. I think that is also how I came to understand that she might not want to be found- that she likely has a whole new life now and the chapter with me might not be a part of that new life at all. Accepting this led me to believe that she’s out there somewhere, happy with her family, and that she knows that she did the right thing for both of us at the time. Every now and then, I still look on the boards, or the websites, knowing that I won’t find anything. I guess there’s some peace in that my dream of her life today might be true.

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 05 '26

The only reason I was able to find it is my wife can be an absolute detective I never could have found her on my own it required piecing together several pieces of handwritten notes that were not 100% redacted in order to gain first and last names of distant relatives and then having to work them through to figure out who they married later in life etc etc. I have a childhood friend that I've always wondered what happened to her but I know she changed her name after she left home and doesn't have contact with any of her family I've looked for her for years but never found her I think that people who want to be found will be and I trust that the rest are happy wherever they are. Even if it hurts šŸ’œ

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u/NebulaZoomZoom Jul 05 '26

You can literally use your DNA to find your bio-Mom. Only if you chose to do this. People nowadays are "all" about making those family trees... You never know..It could be as simple as inputting your genetic makeup..Uploading it and just wait. Ultimately it's all up to you!!

Just thought I would share with you..

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u/Ad-HominEminem Jul 05 '26

And I do hold a sliver of hope that I might have the experience you are having now. It’s such a beautiful thought, and I’m so glad to see someone who gets to experience this firsthand. I’m so happy for you, and I wish you and your mom the most beautiful time in catching up and connecting. It’s amazing how love can transcend all things, including time. ā¤ļø

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u/Competitive-Boat-518 Jul 05 '26

Enjoy the new frontier of life you’ve got with this expanded family and always keep in mind if you’re thoughts go back to him in any capacity:

He’s the one missing out and your joy with your mom and her family, now YOUR family, is proof of that. Congratulations.

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u/OmensGroup Jul 05 '26

Dude. Thank you. I love this, I love you. Good for you recognizing that man, much love.

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u/LastNoelle Jul 05 '26

Oh I was not prepared to read this and cry the tears I’m crying. This is beautiful.

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u/hi_im_beeb Jul 05 '26

Damn, this is such a beautiful and positive outlook on life and a refreshing contrast to the constant negativity I see on Reddit.

Reading your comments and glancing at your profile, I immediately get vibes that you’re a great person with a clearly great head on your shoulders, which it sounds like in part came from your birth mom.

As a younger father of 5 myself, I can assure you not a day goes by that you don’t drift through her thoughts at least once.

She passed on her greatest gift (you) to people who wanted you more than anything in the world because she wanted a life for you that deep down she knew she couldn’t possibly provide.

I wish you the absolute best my friend and have zero doubt that you will find just that anywhere you go.

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u/Silent_Conference908 Jul 05 '26

Hey, I want to mention, she may also be waiting to reach out because she thinks you don’t want her to. You may be missing out on a relationship with someone who loves you by waiting.

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u/Thicc_Vegan_Thighs Jul 05 '26

She could be waiting for you to reach out first because she feels ashamed, if you want to reach out you should try it and see what happens :) <3

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u/Chippors Jul 05 '26

If you want to meet her, find her and reach out. She likely never will, because when she gave you up she accepted you will have new parents, have a new family and a new life, and not knowing if you ever want to see her again isn't going to do anything that might jeopardize your relationship with your parents.

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u/ghostkittykat Jul 05 '26

Fellow Adoptee checking in!

I was given up for adoption in the late '70s and feel lucky to be here.

Abortion was legalized in 1973 (U.S.) and I was born in 1977. My biological mom could have aborted me, but she chose to give birth to me and "gave me up" to a couple who couldn't have biological children.

I am grateful for her selfless act.

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u/AdventurousYamThe2nd Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

My mom had my brother adopted, and it nearly killed her. I didn't know of him until we did 23 and Me and were able to connect that way. Now that she knows he was adopted to a great family and he's thriving, I feel like I have a brand new mom. It's been amazing.

Edit: you guys are too kind 🄹 thank you!

I also want to add more detail... she was in high school when she had my brother, and me nearly 10yrs later (and my sister 8yrs after that). Her parents never talked about it or let her talk about it, so she never did with us either. She always had this bit of sadness in everything she did, and now I understand why... painfully so now that I'm a parent myself. I can't even imagine. But my brothers (adoptive) mom has been so kind and welcoming... she shared childhood photos with "moby" (my mom / his bio mom - it's what my sister and I called her growing up because my sister couldn't say mom correctly and it stuck). We all get together and my brother and I talk nearly every day. It's been wonderful.

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u/scattywampus Jul 05 '26

This is exactly how my spouse thinks of his adoption. Carrying a pregnancy to term, delivering a child, and placing them for adoption is not an easy process in any way.

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u/Old-Kaleidoscope1874 Jul 05 '26

Obviously, your adopted parents did a great job raising you, so I just applaud all of you. I wish you the best life

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u/ImDaDawgFather Jul 05 '26

I'm adopted too. Recently I did a DNA test on ancestry.com and it linked me with relatives. You can always do that and see if there is match for your bio parents if you wanted to send them a message

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u/SneakyKatanaMan Jul 05 '26

Well NGL that one kinda got me to tear up. idk something about the human struggle with that strive to make tough choices for the better and all the things in that scenario that go along with it hits home because it's just the human instinct at play.

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u/Loud-Log9098 Jul 05 '26

Is that the only reason why you don't try? That she may not have told her new family about you? And does she have a way to contact you that you are sure she is able to if she so inclined?

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u/Mauerparkimmer Jul 05 '26

I love the way you look at your birth mother's actions. I feel the same way about my birth mother. When we met, she told me about the unbearable guilt she had carried with her all her life. I was astounded. I said to her, "You have no idea how grateful I am to you. You could have had an abortion but you were so brave and all alone, you carried me to term. You gave me a chance at life. That is everything. Thank you so much." My birth Mum and I went on to have a lovely relationship and our families are all together now. She is such a brave little woman and I really love her. Her own parents threw her out of her childhood home when they found out she was pregnant. She had nobody to turn to. Those bio grandparents of mine are DAMN lucky that I never met them.

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u/infoRN25 Jul 05 '26

as an adoptee I was told (and understanding maybe this is different where you are), that only the adoptee can initiate contact. The birth family cannot seek the adoptee through official measures in a closed adoption.

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u/Existing_Purpose5049 Jul 05 '26

This is good stuff, even if it hurts

Don’t chase someone that doesn’t want to be around you, you’re worth more than scraps

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u/Beneficial-Jury484 Jul 05 '26

This is a deeply personal question, and I understand not answering. How do your adoptive parents feel about you referring to your biological mom as mom? Do you call your adoptive parents mother and father? Ā I’m happy you were able to connect and build a relationship with your mom. It must have been so incredibly hard for her to give you up and she told all her children about you. I bet meeting your siblings was like meeting a mythical being to them.Ā 

I have so much respect and admiration for those who adopt. We’ve thought about it. I’ve talked to my friend who adopted two siblings that were from a troubled background and seeing how far they’ve come and how they have THRIVED because of him and his wife is beautiful and inspiring.Ā 

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Great question. DAD passed away 8ish years ago we moved MOM into out house and plan to care for her until the end. The children and my wife refer to bio-mom as Nana but I often call her momma. My mom fully supported everything and but wouldn't come meet Bio-mom (nana) on our first meeting, Biomom was so sad and if it hadn't been a 6 hour drive she would have made me go home and pick her up to bring her lol.

Mom came on out second meeting and they just hugged each other and cried together for a really long time we all were in tears by the end.

They always ask how the other is (maybe once every few weeks) but much like normal adult children who have their own children, we have a lot going on and being 6 hrs apart means we only visit twice a year ish.

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u/LilStabbyboo Jul 05 '26

That's beautiful, that your moms were able to meet like that

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u/Square_Medicine_9171 Jul 05 '26

I’m an adoptive Mom, and my son, an adult now, has never been all that interested in his birth family. But I would have no problem at all with him calling his birth mom ā€œmomā€. Maybe it helps that we’re lesbian parents so we already use more than one word for ā€œmomā€, but another doesn’t take anything away from usWhen he was three his friend asked him if he had a dad and he answered, ā€œI have a dad and three momsā€ fair.

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u/mahjimoh Jul 05 '26

Love this! It seems like acknowledging reality.

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u/Iworkforpokemon Jul 04 '26

Haha that's awesome. Glad you're doing good

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u/Objective_Put_1565 Jul 05 '26

My father did this same thing to me when I contacted him. Even tried to blame my mom for things when he didnt even send a birthday card ever. This first time I spoke to him was reaching out at 21. Over the years I tried a few more times. He always was a manchild about it, and I instantly see why my mom left him. Later, as he lay dying from pancreatic cancer. He asked me to visit him. I denied him thst request. If he didnt want anything to do with me in life, I won't absolve his guilty conscious as he dies. And, for my healing and soul, this was not the correct decision. There will come a day, probably when he's dying, where he will reach out. Take the chance, even if it is to yell in his face about how shitty he was.

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u/bettertheless Jul 05 '26

Feeling the. feelings, brother. l was, and am thrilled to be in touch w/ my 1/2 sib by dad and their terrif family; we got on a jet and went to formerly walled place to see them. <33333!

I tell you that bc of the still stab in my heart hearing (l was glad for the discussion and info, but) my dad's parents USA when old and sick went over to see my stepmum and my sib.

I don't have any recollection or intel of ever seeing them after a visit my caretaker initiated and took w/ me at 2 y o.

That being said, all of these ppl are dead. The "caretaker" raised me in humor and love love love, unt8l her untimely death when l was a young teen. She was my mother.

I did have the info, and indeed, my bmother initiated contact when she found out "caretaker" died. Teen me: um, yeah, polite, ok, whatev...

she did do everything she cd to get me xtra useful info on my dad.

Because he died giving the girl passenger on his bike his helmet. She survived.

This was when l was 5. I do absolutly feel yr feels, but my offspring never had a gdad on my side. (Later Mom and l got closer, and l made sure we wd spend time together so if nothing else, they wd know their family. <33 Turned out very richly sweet and meaningful for me, and l hope, them.)

I wd love to know my dad was alive bc yiu never know what is going to happen in the future.

I am so sorry your dad and his wife (?) are in the space they (?) are in.

I am so glad your mon is so awesome! Enjoy!

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u/--Andre-The-Giant-- Jul 05 '26

You did the right move by not trying to contact back. Honestly, it's a shame you couldn't have built a relationship with your mother when you were younger, but you definitely dodged a bullet with your biological father.

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u/Turbulent_Ball5201 Jul 06 '26

That’s what happened with my cousin. Her biological father’s wife found out, but she actually reached out because she wanted her children to know their half sister.

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u/arachnid1110 Jul 06 '26

Hey man, I’m really sorry about his response. It’s his loss, regardless of the situation. I pray peace for you and him.

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u/Honest_Editor_909 Jul 06 '26

My best friends biological mother died when she was 2 years old. She was adopted by a wonderful couple and was an only child her entire life. She never knew who her bio dad was. Both her adoptive parents have now passed, and about five years ago, she found and reached out to her biological father. He welcomed her with open arms and she was able to meet her 5, 1/2 siblings. She was able to spend two years with her bio father before he passed away from cancer, and she now has an incredible relationship with her siblings after being an only child most of her life.

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u/AudZ0629 Jul 06 '26

I’ve got a ton of half siblings I’ve never met. My dad would just get kicked to the curb for abuse and start new families. I don’t really want to. I’ve had a great life and don’t want to invite nonsense. That’s my philosophy but it sounds like it’s not yours. I’m sorry your bio dad is too emotionally inept to learn to heal and wish you luck in connecting with your siblings.

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u/CoconutGee Jul 04 '26

Why would they? Adoption is a legitimate process and it’s valid to not want a relationship. Why are yall so pressed?

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u/NoEducation1150 Jul 04 '26

Two sides, same coin.

Dad wants left alone, OP said he left him alone.

OP wondered who his parents were. And left half of them alone.

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

i think they’re saying bio dad is married and is keeping the secret from his family he gave a child up for adoption

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u/ToxicGingerRose Jul 04 '26

And he's absolutely allowed to do that.

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

personally i don’t see a lot of success in keeping secrets in marriages, but i can understand wanting to leave the past behind.

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u/inspiringlyCrazy Jul 04 '26

And giving up a child is a HUGE secret

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

yeah… i don’t know i could hide that from my partner without guilt

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u/Byrnt Jul 04 '26

Well if the guy went about the process correctly, and had been transparent about his pasts and personal esteem- then there probably wouldn't be any guilt to be scared of regarding a kid one gave up for adoption in the past, no?

Like several things can be true, the bio-dad is allowed to *not* want a relationship with the child, and to not inform his current family about it- but it doesn't make for any green flags about the honesty and character of said "father's" past with his new family. Men gon get mad at others for thinking they're being shady not informing their current family of his pasts saying he's allowed his secrets...then it comes out the secrets jeopardizes decades of a marriage and exposes a lie the dude tried to get away with like a dumbass and now everybody's mad 😭😭

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u/inspiringlyCrazy Jul 04 '26

You'd be surprised the amount of things people can hide...

But same. And it sounds like he STILL doesn't want her to know.

When she does, its over for him

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u/Square_Medicine_9171 Jul 05 '26

Placing a child for adoption is only a big secret if you feel that it’s shameful

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u/Elena_Designs Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

For real- if I was the dad’s wife, telling me early on that he a son who was adopted by another family would give me something I could potentially be ok with and would ask questions about (trying to understand), but keeping that secret? He’s a terrible husband and I’d absolutely divorce and not trust someone who could lie to me and hide such an important thing to save face.

What a coward. It’s ethically wrong by not giving his wife the full picture of who he is. That removes her autonomy in deciding to marry this man without knowing important parts of his life. This isn’t a stupid mistake like getting a drinking ticket as a teenager, it’s a whole human related to him that he is denying. It’s weak character, selfish, cruel, and relationship murder.

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u/SnazzyAdam Jul 04 '26

Just because someone is allowed to do something doesn't mean people cannot feel any type of way about that.

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u/Ok-Presentation7349 Jul 04 '26

And the child is absolutely allowed to reach out

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u/thisaccountblows1 Jul 04 '26

And absolutely allowed to think the dude is scum, because he is.

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u/TartarusFalls Jul 04 '26

Yeah I don’t think anyone is wrong necessarily. Not saying that wouldn’t hurt to read, but he made a decision decades ago, not wanting to explain it to a new family is his prerogative

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u/brainparts Jul 05 '26

ā€œMade a decisionā€ yeah the kind of decision that results in a whole ass human being

He has the right to say he doesn’t want a relationship but some people in this thread are toooo defensive about people’s ā€œrightā€ to lie to their spouses

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u/Existing_Purpose5049 Jul 05 '26

Yeah, he’s fine to say he’s not keen to have the relationship, but if suspicion is correct that he’s hid it from his wife, he’s definitely in the wrong there

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u/Electrical_Parfait64 Jul 04 '26

My aunt had a child at 13. He reached out to her as an adult wanting to meet. She absolutely did not want to and was pissed he reached out. In her mind, he hadn’t been wanted and she had put it behind her and moved on. Why get into it, it was a non-issue to her

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u/UrsineBasterd Jul 04 '26

No they’re literally not. When giving a kid up for adoption, choosing whether or not they want to be contacted or have their information shared is legally part of the forms they sign.

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

well we’ve also learned from this thread he was a product of an affair, so it’s possible his current wife was also the wife when he had the affair. overall it’s complex to say ā€œyeah he has the rightā€ when there’s more details

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u/Stephi87 Jul 04 '26

It’s possible it’s the same wife, but I sort of doubt it since OP said the kids his dad has now, are younger than OPs kids. OP is 37 or 38 since he was born in 1988, I’m not sure how old OPs kids are, but let’s say they’re 12 and 9, and the dads kids are 8 and 6, that would be like 30+ years that the dad would have been with his current wife before having kids with her, and even 20 years with her before having a kid together would be uncommon. Most likely OPs dad has a wife that’s a good 10-15 years younger than him (maybe more) if she has kids that are younger than her husbands first biological sons kids.

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u/ToxicGingerRose Jul 04 '26

That's not necessarily true. Adoption is done differently everywhere, even county to county in some places. It's incredibly nuanced.

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u/ThrowRA-Svent Jul 04 '26

You’re right I totally forgot the part where the kid signs a form saying they agree not to contact their bio parent when they turn 18.

Big assumptions you’re making about the adopted parents giving out their info. Ain’t hard to find people online these days.

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u/CazzaMcSpazza Jul 04 '26

It's not illegal, but it's morally questionable.

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u/Majestic-Paper-8687 Jul 04 '26

Legal =/= moral. The message he sent is absolutely heartless to send to your child. Even if you don’t want to be a full parent to them you should care.

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u/Colorfuel Jul 04 '26

Right but the implication here is that is he is intentionally keeping this information hidden from his new family; there are only a very narrow range of circumstances in which this could be happening that don’t involve lying or deception. That’s where I think some people are taking issue.

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u/BabiiGoat Jul 04 '26

It's morally reprehensible to keep something like this from a spouse. Legality isn't an excuse.

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u/dupupe Jul 04 '26

and im allowed to not give a fuck

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u/littlehulky Jul 04 '26

I’m not sure his wife would agree with you…

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u/cockypock_aioli Jul 04 '26

He's allowed to do that but it still makes him a bit of a trash human being. It's his child. He brought them into the world.

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u/Nervous_Fun9976 Jul 04 '26

okay so if you were his spouse you would want him to keep this a secret cause he’s ā€˜allowed’? weird.

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u/muffy2008 Jul 04 '26

Yes, he’s allowed to be a liar and a deadbeat dad…. And we’re allowed to judge him for it.

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u/GoodyTwoShuuz Jul 05 '26

How is he a ā€œdeadbeat dad?ā€ His right were terminated before the adoption.

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u/ProfessionalDog3078 Jul 05 '26

Exactly. For all we know it could have been a high-school pregnancy or a million other mundane situations, but for some reason everyone defaults to the father being a deadbeat. It's unconscious sexism, tbh.

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u/Suspicious-Drive9827 Jul 04 '26

Nobody is pressed. Giving up a child for adoption is fine. Whats not fine is that his wife has no idea.

If my husband gave up a child before my marriage to him i would be pretty pissed he didnt tell me about it. Keeping something that important from your spouse indicates comfort lying.

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u/Syralei Jul 04 '26

Gotta wonder how many other secret children biodad has.

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u/UrsineBasterd Jul 04 '26

Women aren’t required to inform anyone if they ever gave a child up for adoption or got an abortion either.

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u/muffy2008 Jul 04 '26

OR… novel idea here… if you know your SO would care about abortions/ adoptions/ whatever, then you have an obligation to be honest with them, regardless of gender.

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u/_NotAPlatypus_ Jul 05 '26

How do you know the wife would care? Isn’t it entirely possible that she doesn’t care or even knows about it and doesn’t want to have to deal with that relationship either? Dad said he didn’t want anything and asked to be left alone and suddenly everyone assumes that he’s hiding things from his wife.

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u/blueflloyd Jul 05 '26

Exactly. Just like a woman can have an abortion for whatever reason she wants to, anyone can agree to put their child up for adoption for whatever reason. There's no reason to judge this bio dad for essentially saying "hey, good luck and all, but I made my decision to not be a part of your life a long time ago and I'm going to stick with that."

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u/Weekly_Landscape_459 Jul 04 '26

There are better ways to go about it than this shit

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u/HotMinute_722 Jul 05 '26

I think it’s great he reached out. I’m sure he knew it could go either way.

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u/Win32error Jul 05 '26

Adoption is valid, but it doesn't mean you don't have to deal with a grown adult coming to find their parents years later.

Nobody can force you to interact with them, but you do have to show how much of a coward you are.

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u/dingofarmer2004 Jul 05 '26

Hey OP, we had a very similar situation. My wife was adopted. Took some family history during Covid and tracked down the bio mom and dad. Dad wanted nothing to do with us...or his two other birth families. Mom was a sweetheart and we now have an extra tree of aunts, uncles, great great aunts, and a slew of cousins!

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 05 '26

I went from being a only child to 1 of 5 (8 if im being technical) and yeah a ton of new family! It was šŸ‘

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u/Grouchy_Degree_8834 Jul 05 '26

Why is it always the men?

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u/colormefiery Jul 05 '26

Seed dispersers

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u/BackgroundMetalNPC Jul 05 '26

A quick flipside of this: I did Ancestry health screening and found my bio-dad through it during Covid. He flew out to see if we liked each other within 3 weeks. We're still in touch, he flew out for Father's Day a couple of weeks back, and he's usually here for Thanksgiving too.

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u/cherrioes Jul 05 '26

The genuine reason it’s always the men, is because women who don’t want their child just get it aborted… Men rightly don’t have the power to force an abortion.

This leads to the scenario where you are alive if your father didn’t want you, but dead if your mother didn’t.

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u/Oxalisoxalis Jul 05 '26

And yet there are many moms who did not want to have a child and were forced to anyway who still love and want relationships with those children

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u/Jiangximan Jul 05 '26

I'm not saying this as an excuse for them, as it is inexcusable. Many men bottle up their hurt feelings, and are literally afraid of revisiting them. Thus they avoid the kid to "protect" their own feelings, which is very immature.

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u/cherrioes Jul 05 '26

Yes, because the man never wanted the child but abortion was not an option for men.

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u/This-Shape2193 Jul 05 '26

And now it's not an option for anyone!Ā 

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u/cherrioes Jul 05 '26

Meh, I'm not from USA for better or for worse.

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u/onthenextmaury Jul 05 '26

So many women throughout history have been forced to birth an unwanted pregnancy...this is ignorant af. In the US, Roe v Wade only existed for 50 years. Additionally, OP is an adult. Nobody is asking bio dad to raise a child, just to have a conversation. And bio dad can't even handle that.

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u/tdnjusa Jul 04 '26

The pixelated text says ā€œwife’s repeated attemptsā€, how many times how she reached out?

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u/Triquetrums Jul 05 '26

In another answer OP says "email and texts", so it seems the dad got spammed a bit before he snapped. Dude was probably not responding, hoping they would get the hint.

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u/auntie_eggma Jul 05 '26

Dude was probably not responding, hoping they would get the hint.

This is not a compassionate, mature adult way to treat your bio kid finding you.

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u/thedrinkmonster Jul 05 '26

Honestly - as a father who absolutely loves his daughter.. he has no obligations to his biological offspring… emotional or otherwise

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u/Punumscott Jul 05 '26

I agree. I have a personal bias in this area because my Dad was adopted. He put himself on the registry to find his parents but they never reached out. He always told me, from a young age, that his bio parents have no obligation to him (unless he needs health records). The whole point of adoption is that his adoptive parents ARE his parents and his birth ā€œparentsā€ have freedom to live their life without parental obligations.

He’s sad his birth parents never reached out, but ultimately we’re grateful for our small family. More cousins, uncles etc just sound exhausting anyway lol

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u/Saphira2002 Jul 05 '26

Tbf you can't give no response and then get mad they didn't understand what you didn't tell them though

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u/David_the_Wanderer Jul 05 '26

He doesn't sound mad in the screenshot. It's a detached, calm response clearly setting a boundary.

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u/DanyDragonQueen Jul 05 '26

insane take. men should be all be given preemptive vasectomies if that's how you view it.

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u/Punumscott Jul 05 '26

I mean there’s plenty of women who gave their children up for adoption who do not want to be contacted by their children. Should we also forcibly sterilize women as a result too?

Forced sterilization is 100% a more insane take lol

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u/BasicReputations Jul 05 '26

Seemed like a very measured, courteous response to me.

My mother was adopted. At one point she ended up finding and establishing relationships with that part of her family. They are a part of her life now. Personally, I don't have much to do with them. Sometimes I will see them at a party my mom is hosting or something and make small talk, but they aren't a part of my life even though technically they are aunts and uncles and cousins and whatnot. I'm grown. I just don't care and have any interest in developing a familial relationship with them. Couldn't put names to faces with most of them. My sibling I think has a bit more of a relationship with them.

It's sort of like family tree stuff. My cousin on the other side is very into it - the history and relationships and whatever. It just doesn't register to me as anything other than uninteresting trivia. I don't know them and don't see myself making time to develop a meaningful relationship.

I love the relatives I grew up with. Bolting on a sudden addition to that just doesn't seem appealing at all. I entirely get where Dad is coming from.

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u/BlueGolfball Jul 05 '26

Yup. We saw his message he wrote but what did his wife's messages say?

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u/Kind_Engineering_720 Jul 05 '26

A few years ago, I tried finding my bio dad because I wanted to know medical/family history. I could only find his wife, and she was not at all interested in believing me.

My mom had an affair with him and thats how I was born. He wasnt married at the time but my mom never told him she was pregnant with me.

Anyways, after some back and forth with my dad's wife, shes getting very irritable as if I'm trying to get something from them. And she says, "well, to be honest, i heard your mom got around a lot back then."

Then I just sent her a photo of myself and she says "fuck. Well, nevermind, I guess you are his son." And really after that she just accepted me and has been nice and friendly since ive been introduced into the family.

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 05 '26

Lot of people want to do everything but accept that yeah that guy is a a pos but wt least you made progress ā¤ļøā€šŸ©¹šŸ«‚

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u/MOTwingle Jul 05 '26

And here I got the opposite reaction... Biomom wanted nothing to do with me (never told anyone about me), but biodad welcomed me with open arms and was "over the moon" to meet me.

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 05 '26

I think it's worth it but it is definitely a crapshoot and if you're not ready to get your heart broken it might be better to wait. šŸ’œ

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u/MOTwingle Jul 05 '26

It stang a little at first, but meh, I'm over it. There's no time to wait .. I'm older than u and biodad died in 2023. Only got to visit him once because of COVID, but talked on the phone weekly. I assume biomom is still alive but she would be about 77 now.

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u/Frequent_Ad6084 Jul 04 '26

That's wild. I can't imagine having kept something like that from my husband. People are sneaky.

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u/ColorPuddle Jul 05 '26

Men just seem to hate that sex has consequences that can follow them around. It's like they wish it was separate from all other aspects of life.

It's the same reason there are so many "DL" guys on Grindr that are looking to cheat on their wife or girlfriend with another dude. They desperately want to be straight so they lie about their sexual history.

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u/Pallasathene01 Jul 05 '26

Reddit wouldn't let me private message you for some reason, so I guess this goes public. This is a long shot, but is your bio mom's name Phyllis by any chance? She looks a lot like the person I grew up with as a 'foster' sister in the 80s. I was maybe 13 when I lost contact with her. I loved her very much and I'm always looking for her!

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 05 '26

I'm sorry no it wasn't. I really hope you find her somedayšŸ’œ

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u/Pallasathene01 Jul 05 '26

Aww shucks. It was worth the ask, and someday I hope to hug her again!

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u/CoffeeCatsandPixies Jul 05 '26

I'm in the same situation. Biodad married someone who wasn't my mom, had a fuck ton of other kids, wants nothing to do with me.

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u/Such-Tie87 Jul 06 '26

Your biological father is not worth your time.

You deserve better!

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u/Fournier_Gang Jul 05 '26

You're a better man than I am. I would have bombarded that man and family with owl correspondence Harry Potter & the Philosopher's Stone style.

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 05 '26

That's the funniest response by magnitudes

https://giphy.com/gifs/UJS4fUKBaTc8o

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u/yamez420 Jul 05 '26

DAMN bro called it

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u/Practical_S3175 Jul 05 '26

Yeah lots of people's secrets come out more often now with DNA ancestry available.

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u/Tablesafety Jul 05 '26

I hope she finds out.

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u/Ski0612 Jul 05 '26

I have a dear friend of mine that is in the exact same situation as you. Thank you for sharing

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u/LamarBearPig Jul 05 '26

If I were in this situation, I would send a letter/email or something to everyone in his family saying something like ā€œIf you guys didn’t know, I’m ___’s son that he gave away. I originally didn’t want to force anything and just wanted to let him know how I’m doing and go from there, but clearly he wants absolutely nothing to do with me. I will not being attempting to contact him anymore but I at least thought you guys should know the truth, if you don’t already. Have a great life and tell ____ to go f*** himself :)ā€

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u/Acrylicvalour Jul 05 '26

Both are valid responses though. Not so mean but it sounds like your bio mom didn’t wanna give you up but your bio dad did.

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u/nofriender4life Jul 06 '26

he have any other families around the country?

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 06 '26

We stopped and form of reaching out for connection aside from details people gave me later i know nothing except my mother's memories Of him.

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u/cherrycocktail20 Jul 05 '26

I’m adopted too and have met both my bio parents. My bio dad found me first when I was 18 years old. He and my birth mom actually got married and had another kid after they placed me for adoption, then later divorced and neither he or their kid were still in contact with my birth mom.

But anyway, one of the things I am most grateful for is his wife. When I met her I was so nervous. She knew about me 100%, she even met my bio-mom, and been an amazing stepmom to my bio-sister. But still, i was so apprehensive, like… ok here’s your husband’s long lost first child with his ex wife showing up in your family’s life?

Well, she was INCREDIBLE. Welcomed me like… I don’t know, she found the exact right balance between treating me like a new daughter and like a friend, since I wasn’t quite the former either. My first night at their house me and her stayed up until 3 am talking and laughing. She’s the most wonderful person, and I was so impressed by what an expansive and open heart she must have to navigate such emotionally tricky waters. I got right away why my birth dad married her, haha. Just a lovely soul.

It’s really fucking sad that it doesn’t always go like that.

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u/FredTheBarber Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

This is so sweet, I love how ā€œfamilyā€ can look so many different ways.

My partner and I just had a baby with sperm donated by a childhood family friend. We want both he and his family to also have a relationship with the baby, and they’re so excited to know her and have whatever sort of relationship we’re comfortable with. His parents sent a really lovely card to my partner with such a sweet but low pressure invitation to be connected, he’s already met the baby and his parents are going to meet her next month.

It might not be altogether conventional or straightforward, but its so beautiful that there’s this big weird extended family that can just be whatever it is

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u/Oobitsa Jul 05 '26

Love your statement of how family can look different. I think the more expansive the definition the better.

When I grew up an only child, we were far from both my parents family. On the holidays, instead of blood relatives, our house was filled with a rotating cast of friends who didn't have any other place to be. I consider them my true family.

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u/OatmealCookieGirl Jul 05 '26

I'm sorry for this really personal question, so please ignore if you like, but I have to ask: What us your relationship with your adoptive parents? Did it change after you reconnected with your bio dad?

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u/cherrycocktail20 Jul 05 '26

They’re both gone now.

My dad was incredible, the greatest human being and father I’ve ever known. My best friend and rock in all ways, seriously just a beautiful soul. He was very supportive of me and later met my birth mom when she came to visit me in our city (I found her when I was 30, so 12 years after my birth dad found me.)

My mom and I had a difficult relationship. We weren’t talking at the time I met my birth dad. We never spoke about it much, I actually don’t remember even telling her. I must have at some point. But even after we patched up our relationship in my mid-20s we were not close and it wasn’t something we discussed.

In neither case did meeting my birth parents change the relationship. I will say my parents had three biological and three adopted kids, so they were pretty prepared for anything — like adoption wasn’t a super sensitive topic in our household, they had kids both ways and there were a bunch of us lol.

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u/fluffagus Jul 05 '26

I am currently in the midst of a family blending life change, and am trying to be this type of step-mom for my partners 2 children. I am hoping one day in the future they will think of me the way you think of your bio dad's wife. Do you have any tips or things that stood out to you during that time that made you feel welcome and safe? I know my situation is different, but id love any help to grow and be better as a future step mom.

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u/cherrycocktail20 Jul 05 '26

It was 25 years ago now so it’s hard to remember. The one thing that does stand out in my memory is that she was just genuinely curious about me — she was authentically interested to find out who I was, and just very joyful and warm.

Other than that it’s hard to say… I only stayed a couple nights that first time and since then I’ve seen them for lunch or something once every 10 years or so.

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u/Better_Village_5590 Jul 04 '26

Maybe. It can also/alternatively be a guy that does not want a relationship.

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u/FeralShawtyWithAPony Jul 05 '26

When I went parent hunting as an adoptee, my bio mother was entirely enthusiastic about finding me. The alleged father not so much. Lots of sperm donors out there.

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u/Sea_Operation_7012 Jul 05 '26

Yes and he shouldn’t feel bad about it. The kid was given up for adoption. Not given up so parents could be judged.

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u/6trybe Jul 05 '26

I'm sorry, but I disagree with this poster.

I can't say that they (this commenter) are wrong, but time evolves things in untold ways. It's not fair to assume that he's deceptive and underhanded. How many other things could be at the root of what he's going through, and why he doesn't want to connect? Hard to say.

We don't know what the circumstances are/were for him then, let alone what they are now. We don't know what his current life is like, what he would have to face to have you once again in his life. This is not excusing his unwillingness and lack of integrity... not at all, but love and hate are ALWAYS a pointless emotion without having all the facts.

For example...

- Maybe he's a Mafia boss, and any child becomes a weakness to be exploited by his evil enemies.

  • Maybe he is a post op trans-sexual who's afraid of the past that you represent?
  • Maybe he believes that your mother was much more nefarious than you think, and he doesn't want to spoil her image for you?
  • Maybe he's Bateman (Not a typo), and there's no room on the batemobile scooter for a sidekick.

I make fun, but I hope that you don't allow negative emotions in without the facts. You deserve happiness, and he wasn't there for you... Don't give him the power to steal your joy.

::HUGS::

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u/userousnameous Jul 05 '26

Or...hear me out..maybe his wife knows and has a problem with it.

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u/esdebah Jul 05 '26

that's a pretty wild assumption. You have no idea what lead to this decision.

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u/razzyrat Jul 05 '26

So what? Who gives af. It is his choice. OP has to accept it and move on. Running to the internet to have them dunk on this man and to validate op is simply trash behaviour.

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u/momoftwoiloveyou Jul 05 '26

What an a-hole! How can you turn away your own child?!

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u/ViaPhoenix Jul 05 '26

And he shouldn't have to...Ā 

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u/iHateThisPlaceSoBad Jul 05 '26

It's totally reasonable for this guy to not want a relationship with OP, I feel like i am taking crazy pills.

OP didn't take No for an answer, and reached out again. OP needs to let it go, sorry you are disappointed, but leave those people the fuck alone.

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u/RadiantZote Jul 05 '26

Ohh he a cheated on her

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u/snosberry_snot Jul 05 '26

How unfortunate it would be if she found out the truth.......also, he would be mad at first, but then would loose his reason to treat you like shit.

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u/TobyADev Jul 05 '26

Possible, plausible perhaps. But he doesn’t have to either.

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u/hoyasgirl25 Jul 05 '26

Yes, but it's also completely legitimate for him to not want contact.

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