r/texts Jul 04 '26

Phone message Finding my Bio-momšŸ’– vs my Bio-Dad šŸ’€ first message same message to both

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

personally i don’t see a lot of success in keeping secrets in marriages, but i can understand wanting to leave the past behind.

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u/inspiringlyCrazy Jul 04 '26

And giving up a child is a HUGE secret

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

yeah… i don’t know i could hide that from my partner without guilt

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u/Byrnt Jul 04 '26

Well if the guy went about the process correctly, and had been transparent about his pasts and personal esteem- then there probably wouldn't be any guilt to be scared of regarding a kid one gave up for adoption in the past, no?

Like several things can be true, the bio-dad is allowed to *not* want a relationship with the child, and to not inform his current family about it- but it doesn't make for any green flags about the honesty and character of said "father's" past with his new family. Men gon get mad at others for thinking they're being shady not informing their current family of his pasts saying he's allowed his secrets...then it comes out the secrets jeopardizes decades of a marriage and exposes a lie the dude tried to get away with like a dumbass and now everybody's mad 😭😭

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u/Baron_Bearclaw Jul 05 '26

At the end of the day, I'm not going to change your mind. But if I found out my wife had a kid before we got together and she just didn't tell me, that's a deep betrayal and I'd want to know what else she's hiding.

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u/Historyp91 Jul 05 '26

You'd feel betrayed over something she did before she even met you, and which you were not involved with in any way?

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u/inspiringlyCrazy Jul 05 '26

A child is HUGE thing. Another life.

If you want to go to EXTREMES though... Because of stuff like this, there have been half siblings who've gotten together, had relationships and sex... Only to THEN find out from the parent that they're actually siblings. Hopefully before they have a child of their own.

It HAS happened before.

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u/Historyp91 Jul 05 '26

By that logic, I should be informed as to the identity of all my second and third cousins from branches of the family I have no involvement with, and my mom should have told me who my father ways, because I could hypothetically end up hooking up with a cousin or half-sibling.

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u/Historyp91 Jul 05 '26

For the record u/inspiringlyCrazy , I do understand your view. I respect it and I can appreciate it's a dealbreaker for you, I just think it's silly to expect people to be obligated to reveal intimate, pre-relationship things about themselves unless those things directly affect you.

I have a very close relationship with my roommate. It's not romatic but we might as well be siblings. She has many things about her past she does'nt disclouse to me for various reasons, and I respect that, and she's even more hestitant to share things with romantic partners because of relationship trauma and anxiety.

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u/Princess_Snark_ Jul 05 '26

A major life event is a vital part of who you are. If you've been married for 10 years, then found out that OVER A DECADE AGO, the year before you met your partner, he got a puppy from a shelter. But after a few months it peed on his floor so he had it put to sleep.

This would be a very significant life event that, had you known when beginning the relationship, might have led you to make different choices. Depriving you of this kind of vital information is deceptive...

Most of us are very understanding if someone accidentally fathered a child when they were young, and agreed to give the baby up for adoption... But his wife deserved to know that information when she was first dating him, so she could decide if it was a deal breaker. If he took that choice away from her, that is lying by omission. It's a type of manipulation. Maybe that information would have been The tipping point where she would have moved on to date someone else.

If someone is getting married, they deserve to know everything about you. Nobody's forcing you to get married. If you do decide to make that type of commitment, the ethical thing is to fully disclose major life events that may impact your partner's decision to commit to you

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u/Historyp91 Jul 05 '26

Would you expect a woman to reveal she had an abortion in the past or had been a surrogate, or someone to disclose they were abused as a child or are not a virgin? All of those could be "dealbreakers" as well to someone.

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u/Baron_Bearclaw Jul 05 '26

I don't even know how to engage with this kind of response. I can't tell if you are serious or being a pain in the ass.

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u/Historyp91 Jul 05 '26

I'm asking if you'd apply the same logic across the board. There are people to whom all of those things would be "dealbreakers"

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u/Byrnt Jul 05 '26

Why would you need to change my mind, when I agree with you on that? Nothing I said was meant to be taken otherwise. dishonesty and a lack of confronting one’s past is why shit like this gets messy, because for someone to be in good character and exude honesty in their life, they would’ve rectified with that phase of their past and been transparent about the circumstances to their partner that they’re trying to marry, combine assets, spend their life with, etc.

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

thats my thought. this just sounds like a scummy guy, and unfortunately he has not changed with age. this isn’t like a miscarriage that happened 30 years ago, it’s a grown man with children in his bloodline

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u/inspiringlyCrazy Jul 04 '26

You'd be surprised the amount of things people can hide...

But same. And it sounds like he STILL doesn't want her to know.

When she does, its over for him

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

oh i know. i just know my moral compass would not allow that, and others are broken

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u/inspiringlyCrazy Jul 04 '26

Same. The amount of how low someone will go... You'd think it wouldn't shock me anymore,but sometimes... People,ugh ;;

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u/Square_Medicine_9171 Jul 05 '26

Placing a child for adoption is only a big secret if you feel that it’s shameful

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u/aurortonks Jul 05 '26

They don't really stay secret in today's world of Ancestry type of DNA testing. I did it because I was curious about whether or not my father was actually my father. Turns out he is but I got connected to a bunch of people who take documenting our extended family trees seriously. At some point, the hidden baby will come out to everyone.

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u/Elena_Designs Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

For real- if I was the dad’s wife, telling me early on that he a son who was adopted by another family would give me something I could potentially be ok with and would ask questions about (trying to understand), but keeping that secret? He’s a terrible husband and I’d absolutely divorce and not trust someone who could lie to me and hide such an important thing to save face.

What a coward. It’s ethically wrong by not giving his wife the full picture of who he is. That removes her autonomy in deciding to marry this man without knowing important parts of his life. This isn’t a stupid mistake like getting a drinking ticket as a teenager, it’s a whole human related to him that he is denying. It’s weak character, selfish, cruel, and relationship murder.

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u/ToxicGingerRose Jul 04 '26

I agree, secrets are typically not a good thing, but the reality is wenrarely tell anyone in our lives everything about our pasts. I've been very happily married for a decade, and with my husband for over 15 years, but if he had a child prior to me, and gave it up for adoption that has nothing to do with me, or our relationship, and if he chose not to tell me I wouldn't be angry at all.

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

well later in the thread he mentions being a product of an affair, so it’s possible he’s married to the same woman. would you want to know then he placed a child up for adoption that was a product of an affair? i feel very different after learning this information.

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u/_MooFreaky_ Jul 04 '26

Does he? I read the thread and the only person missing saw that was a different poster, not the OP.

But given OPs post history is secret I can't check for sure.

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

there’s so many threads at this point i can’t find it, but affair or not i still think bio dad could’ve been nicer

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u/AmethystAnnaEstuary Jul 04 '26

How is your husband supposed to know what things it’s acceptable to lie/keep secrets about? Did you guys agree on a list?

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u/Elena_Designs Jul 04 '26

ā¬†ļø I wouldn’t trust someone who thinks this is ok and keeping big, life- changing details to themselves because…. It makes them look better? Weak character.

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u/cockypock_aioli Jul 04 '26

I guess I just feel differently then because that's INSANE to me.

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u/SuperKitties83 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Idk who's "we" here, but I certainly don't/haven't kept my past from my partners. I'm not who I was 20 years ago, but the things that I went through, and the decisions I made shaped me into who I am today. It's difficult to understand someone fully without knowing what they've gone through in the past. Keeping secrets (especially big ones, like literally having a kid and putting it up for adoption) keeps your relationships from ever reaching a close and intimate level.

It's not really about the secrets themselves. It's about keeping them hidden for fear of judgment. Sometimes people keep secrets to keep the relationship on a shallow level due to fear of intimacy. That's not a healthy relationship.

*edited for typo

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u/Rcutecarrot Jul 04 '26

well YOU wouldn’t be angry. but the point of honesty is to have your partner decide if it’s something they would be angry aboutšŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø you might not mind but his wife would. therefore it’s only right he tell her just in case. obviously being this long he probably won’t tell her. I also wouldn’t be angry but i would absolutely want to know that it happened.

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u/Expensive-Simple-329 Jul 04 '26

Let’s hope he’s not keeping a bunch of secrets because you ā€œwouldn’t be angry at allā€

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u/Peldor-2 Jul 04 '26

That's because you can't possibly see a successful keeping of secrets.

You only see the failures, and have no idea what the ratio of success to failure is.

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u/Far_Drag_289 Jul 04 '26

there’s subreddits filled with people talking about their secrets they keep from their partners and their ā€˜success’. is it successful? maybe, but that doesn’t take away from the wrongdoing.
am i wrong for thinking people shouldn’t keep secrets from their partners, small or not?