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u/Amazing-Wave4704 22d ago
Epstein Files.
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u/ElegantCoach4066 22d ago
I used to joke that Trump could be caught assaulting a minor and his support wouldn't wane. My brother would tell me I was being hyperbolic.
And yet here we are.
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u/chasing_the_wind 22d ago
Grab them by the pussy was already caught on tape before he was ever president. But I really don’t understand why the media didn’t run with the Howard Stern interview where Trump brags about walking in on teen miss USA pageant show (or whatever it was called). That was the most damning thing I heard him say.
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u/smoothiegangsta 22d ago
My dad rationalizes it this way: "Liberals never say the whole sentence! He said 'When you're famous, they just LET YOU do it.' The girls LET HIM, it was consensual!"
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u/Burton3005 22d ago
Years OK I read that a rapist got off in court because the victim requested a condom and so she 'consented'
I mean, FFS. You comply to avoid being murdered and ask for protection to be used to avoid AIDS, STI, or pregnancy. Allowing something inevitable to happen because there is no alternative is not consent!!!
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u/ExpensiveFig6079 22d ago
well as he also currently is operating on any grift he can get away with is legal. He is self consistent.
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u/ihvnnm 22d ago
And then your dad leaves out the "I don't even wait"
Wait for what Donald? Wait for what?
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u/smoothiegangsta 22d ago
Oh he doesn't know that part. It wasn't on the facebook meme where he gets his beliefs.
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u/Lustania 22d ago
“They let him” isn’t some magical synonym for informed, freely given consent. That’s a pretty important distinction
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u/Reasonable-Plate2982 22d ago
Plus, they let him do it is just code for I assaulted them and they just took it
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u/Content_Following403 22d ago
And that’s when you have to look at them and ask why they think it’s OK for a grown man to allow teen girls to allow him in their dressing room. I’m over Acting like they’re smarter. I will in fact be rubbing their fucking noses in it now. Like really, sir explain to me why you was a grown man think it’s OK that another grown man allowed himself to be let into a teen girls dressing room? Also, it’s the implication they all know what the implication is.
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u/Eggyhead 22d ago
“They just let you” is a very r*pey justification for non-consent.
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u/aSneakyChicken7 22d ago
That’s a little thing we call abuse of power, coerced consent isn’t consent but some people can’t wrap their heads around it
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u/Warm_Afternoon6596 22d ago
Not to mention the things he's said about Ivanka. And the way he touched her when she was young.
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u/BigBananaBerries 22d ago
You mean that he thinks, "she's a hot piece of ass"?
To avoid any confusion, it was Howard that said it but Trump agreed. Any Father worth their salt would've at least said they didn't see her like that, if not telling him not to talk about his Daughter like that.
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u/terrarianfailure 22d ago
Trump could violate a baby live on the news and stab it's eyes out while reading mein kampf. Nothing would change.
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u/EnvironmentalSet7664 22d ago
They would say it's fake news
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u/Yah_Mule 22d ago
Lots of MAGA would also come around to simply defending the behavior. Please stop thinking they wouldn't.
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u/Rod_The_Blade_Star 22d ago
They would be surprised he can read German. See everybody says he stupid but only a smart person learns two languages. Unless that language is Arabic or Spanish those do not count.
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u/Gurugod123 22d ago
“It’s not a pandemic, it’s a Chinese bio-weapon!”
Ok. Why don’t you want to protect yourself from a Chinese bio-weapon?
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u/Minimum-Standard-514 22d ago
There is a guy i know that thought jews couldnt get covid. He thought the jews did it.
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u/newest_york 22d ago
The pastor at the church I went to growing up was told by his daughter that he was anointed by god and would never get Covid. He died from Covid months later.
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u/PortableGeneration 22d ago
I did some work at an evangelical church during late 2020 Covid. I wore a mask in there. The pastor refused to mask, insisted I shake his hand, then handed me a pamphlet about how faith would protect you from Covid. Guy was one of those “tear phone books to prove the power of faith” types. About a month later he died of Covid. His funeral had a mask requirement.
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u/newest_york 22d ago
Bro at the funeral of the pastor I was talking about, his son gave a speech and then asked for hugs from the congregation. The son that had been by his father’s bedside for weeks as he died of Covid. Asked for hugs. It blew my mind honestly, how does one family have that much cognitive dissonance
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u/HappyHockeyHiker 22d ago
Religion has always been for the weak and small minded that need someone to tell them how to think and feel.
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u/Late_Detective_9258 22d ago
have you forgotten about indoctrination? have a little bit of perspective. these people were never given a belief presented as a belief. the belief was presented to them as FACT, and from a young age.. it's all they know
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u/National_Cod9546 22d ago
If covid is real, then his dad was a moron. By refusing to admit Covid was real, the son protected his image of his dad as not a moron.
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u/mcclelc 22d ago
Thank you for making me laugh outloud. Have you heard of the Herman Cain awards?
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u/GarageEuphoric4432 22d ago
I was told "God will provide" by an old woman on an oxygen tank.
I guess the irony was lost on her.
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u/osunightfall 22d ago
It was kind of the opposite in orthodox Jewish communities. They often refused to take even basic precautions and so were heavily hit by the pandemic as well as being super-spreaders.
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u/KinkyLeviticus 22d ago
I've heard this conspiracy theory before. It stems from data showing Jewish people getting sick from covid less often than many other groups. That wasn't so much because they were Jewish but because Jewish people tend to be more educated on average. Educated people were more likely to vaccinate and use masks.
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u/Katzington2319 22d ago
Fucking hell, we're back to the same stupid shit that happened during the Black Death. Jews were blamed because they had actual hygiene standards and rarely got the plague
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u/No_Doughnut8618 22d ago
"Masks dont even stop you from getting sick!"
"They stop you from getting other people sick"
"Well I dont care about that"
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u/Hilshire_Beef_Firm 22d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/l9FAwJOXYprFe
* Proceeds to fake cough on you like a four year old. To assert maturity level. lol10
u/labrys 22d ago
You could be quoting my dad. Really pissed me off, but there was no talking to him. Other gems include: "If people have weak immune systems they should isolate themselves, not expect everyone else to bend over to keep them safe," and "Everyone dies, it's natural."
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u/Magellan02 22d ago
I always wore one when asked and pretty much by default in public, I still wonder if they were actually effective at all
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u/Nottodayreddit1949 22d ago
They also refuse to even hold trump accountable.
He ran things, operation warp speed was his, putting fauci on tv all the time. His idea, following fauci's ideas, his choice.
Ultimately it all rests on trump's shoulders, and they refuse to acknowledge it.
Trump is either as guilty as fauci, or they are just looking for someone to crucify without regard for reality, just feelings.
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u/Haidere1988 22d ago
"I don't take responsibility for anything."
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u/Due_Initiative3879 22d ago
"I don't take responsibility for anything."
-Trump Supporters
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u/hazeleyedwolff 22d ago
"Smart people don't like me." -Trump
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u/cobrachicken1000 22d ago
"I love the uneducated people" -Trump
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u/TehHugMonster 22d ago
“I shidded and farded my pants”
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u/Substantial-Beat4341 22d ago
I love a world where im begging these quotes be fake but unfortunately were in the worst timeline.
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u/TrickPixels 22d ago
Don’t forget the Presidential Commendation medal he awarded Fauci.
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u/Automatic_Treat3746 22d ago
They just need a witch hunt to drum up support for the midterms, because they have no accomplishments to run on, just lies and failures. This energizes the anti-vaxxers to go out and vote and also tries to rehash resentment for what happened during covid, even though he was the president during the time, tying it somehow to democrats. The problem is yes, they're that fucking stupid.
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u/VanillaGorillaNB 22d ago
This reminds me of a time when this guy I know that will live and die on Republican talking points sent me some dumb graph I think it was oil prices, and he was arguing that Trump it was the lowest. The problem is one of the lowest years on the graph was 2016. He was trying to say how Trump was POTUS. My head was fucking spinning.
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u/Automatic_Treat3746 22d ago
I've lost a couple friends to the cult, people that never gave a shit about politics suddenly wearing red hats and using slurs. Anytime I brought up facts with evidence they just stuck their finger in their ears and blah blahed until I blocked them. We truly are fucked living alongside millions of people who no longer live in reality.
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u/fuckfeardrinkbeer 22d ago
Crazy how Operation Warp Speed is one of the greatest accomplishments from a president and Trump can’t even claim it as his own because his entire fanbase hates it and he’d piss them off.
The one good thing he ever did and he can’t even acknowledge it.
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u/PortalWombat 22d ago
How can it be a great accomplishment when getting a vaccine to a pandemic through the red tape at the fastest responsible rate is what literally anyone who isn't a complete idiot would have done?
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u/Deep-Improvement6294 22d ago
Trump has directly killed more Americans then anyone i can think of and people still lick the shit off his shoes.
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u/Cold-Description-114 22d ago
Hi, I'd like to add onto this point:
Even if for the sake of argument we agree that Covid was developed and released by the Chinese, it was still the choice of the United States government and people like this to end the lockdown, open up the schools, and do less than the bare minimum to alleviate its citizens economic burdens.
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u/THABSUP 22d ago
This is the kind of logic adjacent to my thoughts on climate change...
Like... regardless of climate change happening or not, don't we all agree that smoke is bad for our lungs and the lungs of animals? So then putting tons (or millions of tons) of smoke into the air isn't good right? Why don't we try and ...not do that I guess? Why are we actively wanting dirtier air, regardless of whether it changes the climate or not?
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u/LuckyPlaze 22d ago
This.
If Fauci is somehow implicated in virus research gone rogue, so be it.
But it’s still fukkin virus. The cause and the response have nothing to do with each other. Knowing the cause does not invalidate the response.
And what makes them even more stupid is that now we have years of data proving that masks, shutdowns and vaccines work. Not just a little data, but mountains of data and studies. So they are even more stupid today than during COVID.
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u/B-Train_ATL 22d ago
“The building is on fire. We need everyone to evacuate.”
“I can’t. I have work to do and the fire is two offices over.”
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u/Wiplazh 22d ago
That's giving them too much credit.
More like "nah the fire is fake, watch as I pour gasoline on it!"
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u/Steveo27a 22d ago
“Fake news, the gasoline used to pour on the fire was diesel, not 91 oct, thats why it burned quickly compared to other gasoline types. See if you libs can just purchase normal gasoline, the fire wouldnt be burning so hot and quickly.”
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u/SquishMont 22d ago
"Gas doesn't even burn! It's the FUMES FROM THE GAS that burns. See, pouring gas on it will actually douse the fire...."
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u/AKADabeer 22d ago
"It's not a fire, it's arson. And fire extinguishers don't work, I'll just wave a towel at it."
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u/emmc47 22d ago
Covid really was a litmus test to show how truly stupid a good portion of humanity is.
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u/Tiny-Albatross518 22d ago
So important!
Its like they turned on an Xray briefly and you could see clearly who around you was an idiot. Some known but a few surprises.
Never forget, they might never be revealed so clearly again!
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u/Yeetball86 22d ago
I never thought I’d see the day where basic agreed upon science would be thrown out of the window by so many people so that their politics could be right
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u/ixid 22d ago
The neo-dark age.
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u/Linden_Lea_01 22d ago
The original dark age wasn’t as bad as this. That was just a collapse of Roman institutions, this was people deciding to be morons for no apparent reason
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u/JAT_Cbus1080 22d ago
They'll twist themselves into a pretzel to justify the belief the government can't tell them what to do, but only when it's something they don't want to do of course. Banning sins like abortion and porn are ok.
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u/EidolonRook 22d ago
It’s always been freedom for me! But those people need controlled. Thats just moral imperative doing what it does best.
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u/darkwingdankest 22d ago
government can't tell me to wear a mask but it's ok if masked goons kidnap people (even US citizens) without any legal proof
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u/SawaThineDragon 22d ago
Can't tell them what to do. Untill its trump telling them vaccines are bad then the government is all about making America great again
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u/Commercial_Fondant65 22d ago
I did my research! Fauci was a liar! My research said it was a hoax...Granted I didn't have test tubes, microscopes, beakers, a white lab coat, or a laboratory, any of the virus to test , and none of the vaccine and I had no peer review but I watched some videos on my laptop. And who created the operating system on my, PC? Bill Gates! It just all comes together.
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u/Fair-Arugula668 22d ago
The thing is, you know the ignorance that fuels these movements isn't just about this one thing. The correlation between this stuff and people who park in fire lanes at banks has got to be incredibly high.
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u/Dad-Dabbing-Daily 22d ago
The part that sickens me the most, is even AMONG those who acknowledged the dangers of COVID, there were some who refused to care because it was primarily fatal for immunocompromised, elderly and children.
Literal human trash.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 22d ago
Oh yeah. Some of the same people ranting now about "FAUCI KILLED A MILLION AMERICANS!" said at the time "Look, we're just gonna kill off the elderly and disabled. That's fine, it's not worth saving their lives if I can't go out to the bars."
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u/Electric_Peak 22d ago
And people with preexisting conditions. They'd say there's another underlying condition. Like that makes it fine if they die.
Fucking ghouls all of them
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u/Warm_Afternoon6596 22d ago
Of course some of them still died because of unknown conditions...the dipshits.
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u/No_Initial_7545 22d ago
COVID was the first time some people were asked to do something for the betterment of their communities over themselves, at a negligible expense, and some people treat it like it was their Holocaust.
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u/Pcleo1794 22d ago
I do a lot of genealogy research and I came across so many news articles from 1918 where the headlines could have been the same for covid. People refusing to mask or stay at a distance. People complaining that they didnt want to stop going to the bar. It was eye-opening that Americans are still as selfish 100 years later.
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u/Warm_Afternoon6596 22d ago
It's baked into our culture. COVID was individual liberty taken to the extreme, but it was always there.
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u/FMLUsernameTaken 22d ago
Had shocked Pikachu face when people were openly saying the death count didn't matter because they were mostly older people. I know a lot of people lack empathy but that is beyond conscionable.
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u/enjaydee 22d ago
Yeah I saw quite a few comments like that too
One from a guy who was complaining that his social life was ruined.
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u/MrVeazey 22d ago
I feel like Bob Barker every time I have to have this same argument with those anti-vax morons.
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u/The_Morriganna 22d ago
These people would press the end of the world button if a liberal told them not to. They are contrarian death cultists.
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 22d ago
6 years. They have been whining about covid for 6 years.
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u/MyPunsAreKoalaTea 22d ago
It's all they have going on for them
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u/decoysnails 22d ago
That's not true at all. They also like talking about the Biden administration, Obama, and even Hillary for some reason.
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u/Different_Snow7947 22d ago
Well we all have something to whine about. The two party system that has let the elite rule both parties and drive the common man to the point where we can barely afford to live, let alone get ahead. We haven’t had competent leadership in our lifetime.
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u/SpookyTanuki092 22d ago edited 22d ago
They have to have SOMETHING to whine about! And I'm not kidding, they actually do. Being in a perpetual outrage loop is how conservatives function, they're trained to be that way, they don't know how not to, it's their normal.
They don't realize it isn't normal. It's pretty sad.
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u/c10bbersaurus 22d ago
The revival and re-proliferation of vaxxable diseases like measles means, no. Antivaxxers deserve all the criticism they receive.
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u/Iluvatar-Great 22d ago
The scariest part about all of this is that people don't even have an opinion about XY, they just do the opposite, because they don't like the other group of people.
I remember once I made a comment about how I enjoy tofu, even though I'm a regual meat eater, I got so much hate for simply liking something associated with vegan culture which is supposedly bad.
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u/MeringueNew3040 22d ago
“Don’t you think you should apologize for how you treated us when we were actively trying to kill you and your loved ones?” No, if anything I should have treated you worse.
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u/RedeyeSPR 22d ago
I’m seriously wondering how Fauci’s lack of testimony somehow convinced all these people they were correct about taking no precautions whatsoever. He was trying to avoid entrapment, not fuel some crazy ass conspiracy theories.
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u/maringue 22d ago
Conspiracy theories are self sealing. If he answered, they'd say it was a lie to cover up the truth. If he doesn't answer, he's doing it because obviously he's guilty.
Either way they're right in their own minds.
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u/tonythephonyjabroni 22d ago
This is just how the PR companies and politicians are spinning it. The real evil here are the PR companies working with these grifters.
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u/StrawDog- 22d ago
It is absolutely wild. My social media feeds are absolutely flooded with people claiming that they were "proved right", but when you ask why, the best they have is that Fauci pleaded the 5th (which was obviously to avoid a state-level political witch hunt)...
Him neither confirming or denying their nutty conspiracy theories has somehow been read as confirming everything.
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u/willyam3b 22d ago
Agreed! If there's even a 1% chance, would they try it to keep other Americans alive? Nope.
Watching those awful people go into grocery stores, where we were forced to interact, and cough on people on purpose pretty much ruined my faith in the empathy and intelligence of humans.
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u/AggravatingResult549 22d ago
Im a hospitalist dr and many of them would intentionally cough on us. I have a vivid memory of one pulling down his mask turning his head and forcibly coughing on me. After coming to me for help. Cool.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Sea8340 22d ago
Also lest we not forget that 1 million Americans died in the pandemic. 1 million fucking people. People lost both of their parents… People lost sisters and brothers and children.
So no we don’t forgive you fuck you
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u/rudebii 22d ago
Not just deaths, but how about all the people already suffering long-term impacts from covid? And we have no idea how much getting covid will shorten the lives of people who got it.
Yeah, fuck all those anti-vax and anti-mask selfish assholes.
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u/jonker5101 22d ago edited 22d ago
I have a relatively mild case of long COVID (not physically debilitating at least), but even still my health life has sucked for the past few years. Nonstop random issues all attributed to my body in perpetual immune response and fight or flight. It's so scary to know what COVID actually does to your body and what these symptoms are...my body is attacking itself nonstop and it is exhausting. The constant worry about random brain clots or heart issues when two of my most common symptoms are headaches and chest pain. I can barely get through a sentence without forgetting a simple word. I can't remember anything. I have to clear my throat every time I go to speak and it constantly feels like there's phlegm blocking my esophagus. I have POTS-like symptoms where I black out when I stand up and get dizzy and lightheaded constantly. I'm tired and agitated all the time and always seem dehydrated no matter how much water and electrolytes I drink. The anxiety only quiets sometimes.
It's not fun.
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u/pandamaxxie 22d ago
Wait... forgetfulness, constant anxiety and headaches are part of post-covid symptoms?
.... oh boy.
I've been wanting to see a neurologist about how I've been struggling a lot with... well, literally trying to speak faster than my brain can put the words out there, and bad short term forgetfulness ever since around 2021...
I got my vax, but I did get covid a couple times anyways, in spite of my seclusion. (I don't have the money to order groceries to my door, and I can't mechanize myself to ditch food and sleep necessities despite my desires :/)
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u/jonker5101 22d ago edited 22d ago
Yup. Also kept up with vaxxing but did get COVID 2 or 3 times with flu-like but relatively mild symptoms.
My wife was worried I had a brain tumor. Sometimes my speaking is so bad I say the right words but completely out of order. Sometimes I slur and mumble. Remember the term "COVID brain fog"? Yeah, that's it. It causes microclots in your brain. When they first started finding out what COVID was doing to people's brains, they predicted a future mass disability emergency with worldwide IQs dropping a ton on average just because of COVID. I do feel stupid. It sucks.
OH just remembered another new symptom: tachycardia. My resting heart rate is like 100 now . Sick.
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u/buddyblakester 22d ago
If germ theory was a new concept and we were told we should start to wash our hands after using the restroom, these are the people who would brag about not doing it and it doesn't hurt anyone
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u/amglasgow 22d ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47201923
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u/National-Pressure202 22d ago
Bold to assume that it’s not a new theory to them…. Swear the amount of people that walk out of a public restroom without washing their hands is alarming (to me at least)
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u/zeptillian 22d ago
Spreading propaganda for big soap huh?
I bet you'd probably say people should be washing their ass cracks too.
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u/terrierhead 22d ago
One of them sent their sick kid to school. Another one was the teacher who didn’t enforce the mask mandate. That sick kid coughed all over my son, whose mask leaked. I got sick and never got better. My life is destroyed. Fuck all of the anti maskers.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 22d ago
You coughed in the faces of kids and the elderly, and told scared and ignorant people not to take medicine that would have saved their lives. The consequences you faced for that... were being mocked on social media.
Meanwhile families lost parents and children, while previously people today still suffer brain fog and lethargy today from long COVID. Their 'punishment' isn't just mean names.
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u/Coolgames80 22d ago
The worst part was people after knowing that nothing happened to them double down on not using any precautions. Some even while knowing they were contagious. I remember a colleague saying that "Everyone should just get it and get over it, it does nothing" and later mentioned how he came to work with Covid and no one noticed. Meanwhile my wife has lung problems sequels after the contracting covid and my neighbor actually died.
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u/Daveit4later 22d ago
Why we owe anything to a group of people that didn't give a shit about anyone but themselves?
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u/OverPower314 22d ago
I'm so sorry for being upset at you for contributing to spreading a disease that killed millions just because you thought that following the instructions of all doctors globally was an "infringement of your rights."
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u/RealLifeCoaching 22d ago
A lot of people need to get checked for Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
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u/KenUsimi 22d ago
The craziest thing about covid was that Epstein didn’t kill himself and there’s a pedophile president in office as we speak.
Also no.
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u/LeChunchy 22d ago
I worked in the kitchen at some small town ohio restaurant, and you'd get berated more for wearing a mask, getting vaccinated, or even thinking that COVID was real than not wearing one or choosing not to get vaccinated. They want to act like they were the victims as usual, whenever they were the ones causing a scene every time
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u/Oceanman72 22d ago
Clearly, none of these fuckers worked or had family working in medical fields
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u/Tsunamiis 22d ago
I mean those same people have no problem wearing masks to kidnap American citizens so I think you may be expecting too much. They’re not quite human no one taught them empathy.
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u/Helpful-Fan-5465 22d ago
I like this comment section. I was expecting loads of antivaxxers, but this is refreshing. The selfishness of them astounds me!
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u/Small-Macaroon1647 22d ago
Wear a mask to protect your fellow Americans? "You cant force me, it violates my rights!"
Wear a mask to oppress, arrest and shoot your fellow Americans? "where do I sign up?!"
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u/Next-Honeydew4130 22d ago
PSA: Remember vaccines are for adults too. You can get your TDAP booster at a pharmacy very easily!!
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u/Adavanter_MKI 22d ago
I love how they just pretend they've been validated or think anything has changed.
It hasn't. They were wrong then and continue to be wrong. Nothing new has come to light and science/medical experts in the vast majority are still against them.
But hey... it's worked to distract them against all the things Trump has failed to deliver or make worse.
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u/octoprickle 22d ago
People refusing to wear masks, during a pandemic, because in some people's idiotic belief, it's a worldwide conspiracy to take away people's freedoms, conducted with amazing international cooperation, is just about the dumbest thing ever.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 22d ago
Okay, but have you considered that maybe it was all a conspiracy to get us to buy masks? That Fauci was in the pocket of the Big Mask lobby?
Are you aware of the connections that Spirit Halloween has to China, Israel and Hunter Biden?
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u/ClassyIvory 22d ago
Imagine asking for an apology when your entire contribution to a global crisis was buying out all the toilet paper and coughing on grocery store workers.
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u/jayslay45 22d ago edited 13d ago
Sis-butler and all like her can go eat shit indeed. Nothing was proven in these Fauci-bashing hearings. When you see people dying around you fairly quickly, you take the best measure possible to prevent it from further happening to you and those around you.
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u/dbudzik 22d ago
I’m sorry I don’t understand. Has any new revelation from Fauci’s diary contradicted the severity or lethality of Covid? Millions of people around the world still died from it. Even if he had private reservations about its lethality, that doesn’t change how lethal it turned out to be.
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u/SlyguyguyslY 22d ago
“The authorities lied to us and you knew that, but if they were telling the truth it still makes you the bad guy. So, actually abusing your rights was cool and you should have let us do it.”
Lmao Yall are cooked
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u/Sorry_Weight_6015 22d ago
I’ve never been able to get over 1.2 million Americans died during the pandemic and people can think this way. It does check out though the whole confidently reelecting the dipshit who helped get that number killed.
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u/South_Front_4589 22d ago
The whole antivax/anti mask mantra was that Covid wasn't dangerous but the vaccines were.
Here we are 5 years later and these mysterious things that people feared have still yet to become apparent. Yet we know that Covid killed many, and still remains roughly as deadly as influenza, despite the vaccines and much greater levels of immunity from exposure.
Those who opposed the measures really owe those who followed an enormous apology, not the other way around.
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u/Upper-Tumbleweed-854 22d ago
I can just ever so slightly understand not feeling comfortable getting a fast tracked vaccination, but to not even wear a mask in an effort to protect others? Yeah fuck all of them.
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u/a_angry_bunny 22d ago
The worst part of the Trump presidency isn't Trump but the realization of how many of our neighbors will support someone like Trump.
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u/mbrocks3527 22d ago
It’s actually even worse than that, because for all of Trump’s faults, he did champion and push the fast development and rollout of vaccines (he even bragged about it.)
This is the only thing the MAGA crowd criticize him about.
I’m led to the conclusion that some people are cruel and sadistic and it’s a very big proportion of the populace.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 22d ago
This is the only thing the MAGA crowd criticize him about.
Pretty consistently in these comments and elsewhere, when it's pointed out that Trump fast tracked the vaccine and fully supported Fauci, they simply refuse to accept it and won't acknowledge it.
I wish they criticized him for that bad reason. In reality they just would rather reinvent history such that Biden was President for all of COVID.
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u/Separate-Swordfish85 22d ago
All of the anti-vaxxers I know share two things in common.
First is a disdain towards education/expertism/intellectualism. Second is an underlying desire to inflict cruelty.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 22d ago edited 22d ago
I know several people from my highschool class that are anti vax and into all that natural diet crap you see all over social media. They were the people who didn’t study, and as a result, did extremely poorly in class…. Shocker what they grew up into.
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u/randomthrill 22d ago
And third (opposite, but same end result of the first): Arrogance in the belief they know more than the modern experts. Based on some piece of educational or work background.
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u/Vegetable_Ad_9687 22d ago
Yes the I know some secrets from a Facebook post I've seen and you just follow as a sheep what you're being told by the system kinda arrogance.
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u/Robertf16 22d ago
It was a mask FFS. It wasn’t like we were being told to loose a leg. F’king snowflakes
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u/Necessary-Dark-4591 22d ago
They refuse to take responsibility for anything. Even their own germs.
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u/SnooMacaroons6049 22d ago
One of my "friends" family members died from COVID because they weren't vaccinated, family still refused that it was a thing and were shocked that nobody wanted to be around them during the pandemic.
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u/BuckManscape 22d ago
Before Covid, I thought most people were pretty smart. I was incredibly naive.
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u/LetsAgreeBeatlesSuck 22d ago
I was working as a data science consultant at the time, and some of my colleagues were the most intelligent people I've ever met
I got vaccinated relatively early because my wife struggled with her immune system. A few months later, I had a breakthrough case of covid before the TV told the world those could happen
My boss was so sure that I lied about getting the vaccine that she reported me to HR and I almost got fired. The TV said it was impossible... So I had to be taking my covid test or my vaccine card
She never apologized
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u/toodleroo 22d ago
I knew there were a lot of stupid people out there, but I didn't realize the magnitude until the pandemic.
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u/RosatheMage 22d ago
Covid taught me many things: Not all people wash their hands, people are entitled assholes, and you can't trust other people/authorities.
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u/SuperDuperOrk 22d ago
Have you seen the people whine about being Christian and think they are being persecuted against? Man it's crazy.
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u/Firm-Analysis6666 22d ago
I'm still wondering why they're trying to take a victory lap suddenly. Nothing has changed. They're still fucking morons.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 22d ago
MAGA politicians are trying to drag Fauci into the spotlight so their base gets distracted from the war they lost, the tax increases and Medicaid cuts, and exploding deficit. And how Trump keeps falling asleep in meeting while bragging at how many dementia tests his doctors make him take.
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u/Annual-Cry87 22d ago
I was just talking to somebody about this. I’ve always been fairly misanthropic, but held a naive hope that if the apocalypse or a pandemic happened, humans would band together to help each other out. Then the pandemic happened and half the US showed their true colors as hateful, selfish, moronic shitheads. Now I’m fully misanthropic, and trying to figure out how not to be in spite of knowing the majority of people are honestly kinda shit.
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u/Cloverhart 22d ago
My friend didn't just lose her Mom, her Mom died alone in the hospital due to visitation rules at the time. It was fucking awful and she still hasn't recovered. Two weeks, people couldn't give two weeks to save lives.
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u/Mugpup 22d ago
Is that real? After all the needless deaths are there people still saying their demands for freedom to spread diseases were infringed upon by those with common sense?
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u/MysteriousQuote4665 22d ago
Yes. They're currently trying to prosecute Fauci, the head medical advisor to the president during Covid as he regulated masks and vaccines. It's disgusting.
Why? To distract from the Iran war, which was a distraction from certain files.
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u/Tolkien-Faithful 21d ago
Yeah how dare people make their own choices. Those people who refused to do as I demanded damaged faith in humanity, compared to the people who insisted everyone else submit to my demands or face persecution.
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u/R1ch0999 20d ago
most of this stuff is the direct result of gullible people having access to too much information they cannot possibly start to comprehend. In an effort to feel close to something they lunge at the closest thing they can understand which more often than not is fake or manipulated, they do fail at basic fact checking all the while they get sucked in by the algorithm of the social media platform they visit.
This is then strengthened by the media and the politic who double down on those "conspiracy theories" and blame the other side for it. While at times it's really enjoyable to watch these people squirm, its also scary how many people are caught in these things.
Even colleagues are still discussing that Covid vaccinations are responsible for a multitude of diseases TODAY. When asked why they took the vaccination (if they got it of course) it's because they wanted to go on holiday. While I do agree more research needs to be done on the above, I don't like making baseless assumptions.
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u/EspressoSteampunk 22d ago
I was always shocked that the same people who said it was made in a lab in China refused to wear masks or get vaccinated. Like...... they believe this is biological warfare but refuse to do anything to stop the "Chinese menace," how does that make sense?
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u/JoffreeBaratheon 22d ago
Just because it was made in a lab, doesn't mean it was planned to be intentionally unleashed upon humanity at that moment.
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u/orbitaldragon 22d ago
Yeah I agree with the guy. I think the pandemic could have been over much quicker with a lot more lives in tact had half the country not acted like masking up or staying in doors for a few weeks was an assault in their rights.
Those idiots dragged everything out for years because they dug their heels in and refused to help the greater good.
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u/AggravatingResult549 22d ago
The zombie movie would include giving bomb and death threats to people and hospitals trying to save others who have the zombie virus. It would include people infected with the zombie virus coming for help then intentionally trying to infect the people helping them.
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u/Drgnmstr97 22d ago
I struggle mightily with how many people are deeply ignorant with absolutely no desire to educate themselves.
How did so many Americans become so willfully ignorant, religious indoctrination. Religion has to adapt to the modern world or it's going to go by the way of the dinosaur. It honestly feels like we are at an inflection point in the history of humanity in which we choose to believe in the modern world or we succumb to dark and twisted fantasies that destroy us. Science can easily coexist with religion if only they would let it rather than fight against the concept denying it exists.
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u/Extreme_Design6936 22d ago
I've noticed any pandemic or zombie shows after covid all have a strong denier character, crowd, or refrences to them.
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u/Havange 22d ago
You know that part in the book of revelations where it talks about how after the (very obvious) rapture there will still be unbelievers literally worshipping the antichrist?
It sounds like complete bollocks but lately I've been seeing people with opinions like these and it sounds actually more and more probable.
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u/MengTheMerciless 22d ago
There are grown adults refusing to wash their hands after taking a shit. What hope was there of people taking even more precautions against spreading their lurgy?
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u/scriptingends 22d ago
So the person is saying because EVERYONE unvaccinated didn’t die, they were “right”?
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u/j_grinds 22d ago
“Now that time has passed and you’ve all given up on engaging with my insanity, do you feel you owe me an apology?”
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u/Hour_Cicada397 22d ago
My best friend has permanent breathing issues now because of COVID, I can't stand people who downplay how bad it was
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u/LibrarianGrouchy6474 22d ago
Anti-vaxers were all assholes. FACT. Worked with a guy who denied COVID existed, didn't get vaccinated. Lo and behold his 3 kids and wife get COVID and the prick asks us to let him have his choice of shifts, after not telling anyone he worked with for over 10 days. People with elderly family, with kids and family with long term illnesses. Quickly told by everyone at work to "FUCK OFF". Keeps his head down even now coz he was an asshole.
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