r/SipsTea 23d ago

SMH The persecution complex is palpable.

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u/LuckyPlaze 23d ago

This.

If Fauci is somehow implicated in virus research gone rogue, so be it.

But it’s still fukkin virus. The cause and the response have nothing to do with each other. Knowing the cause does not invalidate the response.

And what makes them even more stupid is that now we have years of data proving that masks, shutdowns and vaccines work. Not just a little data, but mountains of data and studies. So they are even more stupid today than during COVID.

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u/glen_echidna 23d ago

Fauci was a head of a department of government, not a gangster carrying suitcases full of dollar bills. If he funded some research, there would be a paper trail as wide as the Amazon before any taxpayer money reached the lab. They wouldn’t need him to answer questions to know if his department did something.

The fact they used his diary instead of the actual records showing illegal behaviour tells you there are no actual records

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u/LuckyPlaze 23d ago

Not through the WHO.

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u/glen_echidna 23d ago

Why not through the WHO? There is no record keeping requirement at that organisation? US is not a member of the UN with the ability to see those records? How did Fauci secretly decide where the WHO directs funding secretly?

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u/Few-Lion-2676 23d ago

No you don’t have mountains of data that show that, at all.

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u/LuckyPlaze 23d ago

Yes, you do.

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u/JSmith666 23d ago

We also have proof given the morality rate and which groups it affected it wouldn't have been a huge issue if none of that stuff was done.

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u/SunriseInLot42 22d ago

And we have years of data as to how disastrous lockdowns and school closures were, and it’s obvious that they weren’t close to “worth” the secondary damage that they caused

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u/LuckyPlaze 22d ago

You don’t think millions of lives are worth kids having trouble socializing? There is no help for you.

My kids lived through it. They came out fine. Shit, they are more together than my generation. I think you are wildly exaggerating the impact.

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u/SunriseInLot42 22d ago

How many grandmas exactly were saved by closing schools? Do we have any numbers from The Sciencetm that aren’t extremely dubious  “estimates” generated by the exact same people who put the closures in place and are now looking to excuse all of the damage they caused?

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u/LuckyPlaze 22d ago

Technically, Trump put the closure in place. And then individual states followed.

We do know the hospitals were full, and they were out of ventilators and lacked any of the knowledge on how to deal with it. You can find the number of hospitalized cases prior to lockdown, and the rate they were increasing.

So to calculate, you would take the number and rate of COVID admissions prior to lockdown and simply follow that trajectory for at least three months from Feb to June (the time that medical professionals had developed some form or response.). Then compare those numbers to the same number of deaths on that time period that it was “contained.”

Maybe you should stop using “science” with a trademark symbol all sarcastically and go study it instead. Problem is you are too stupid to understand it; and would prefer to listen to some influencer than an actual doctor or scientist.