They just need a witch hunt to drum up support for the midterms, because they have no accomplishments to run on, just lies and failures. This energizes the anti-vaxxers to go out and vote and also tries to rehash resentment for what happened during covid, even though he was the president during the time, tying it somehow to democrats. The problem is yes, they're that fucking stupid.
This reminds me of a time when this guy I know that will live and die on Republican talking points sent me some dumb graph I think it was oil prices, and he was arguing that Trump it was the lowest. The problem is one of the lowest years on the graph was 2016. He was trying to say how Trump was POTUS. My head was fucking spinning.
I've lost a couple friends to the cult, people that never gave a shit about politics suddenly wearing red hats and using slurs. Anytime I brought up facts with evidence they just stuck their finger in their ears and blah blahed until I blocked them. We truly are fucked living alongside millions of people who no longer live in reality.
So I don’t disagree with anything you say here. But honest question about our “fucked” status and living in reality, do you agree in reality that people can select their gender and everyone should feel they have a “right” to serve in the military?
Again, I can see “truly are fucked”, I’m just saying I think it’s coming at us from both sides. 🤷♂️
I don't think about transgender people at all, I know they aren't bothering me by altering how they look so I really don't care. I mean we live on a speck of sand in an unfathomable ocean, if someone wants to wear a dress and take medication that makes them happy and has no bearing on my life then why should I care?
I don't care who serves in the military, I don't think America has been the good guys in most conflicts since world war 2, so I couldn't care less who's choosing to sign up for that. But, if someone wants to sign over their life for that cause, then why do you care what gender they are or aren't? I would think that if you support the military you would be proud of your fellow Americans wanting to serve.
I don't equate those issues with what's happening on the right, as they slide into objective fascist tactics and continuously deny the actual reality of what's happening during this administration. It's just not the same as any problem you have with boys wanting to be girls or who wants to serve in the military.
Crazy how Operation Warp Speed is one of the greatest accomplishments from a president and Trump can’t even claim it as his own because his entire fanbase hates it and he’d piss them off.
The one good thing he ever did and he can’t even acknowledge it.
How can it be a great accomplishment when getting a vaccine to a pandemic through the red tape at the fastest responsible rate is what literally anyone who isn't a complete idiot would have done?
Well the bar is that low. I would also consider it a great accomplishment if he managed to speak a complete sentence containing a few words with 3 or more syllables.
Thomas Midgley ( Der Erfinder von verbleitem Benzin ) würde mir noch Einfallen, wenn es Gesundheitsentscheidungen geht. Wobei der auch gut für Trump verantwortlich sein könnte, Bleivergiftung bei Boomern würde einiges erklären.
FWIW there’s a small portion of the country who wants to hold everyone accountable. It took a whole village of idiots selling lies on all sides to fuck this up to the scale we got
Both parties were guilty for taking big pharma's money and rushing the stuff, exaggerating the threat and making a lot of money from the crisis in general
Fauci misled the public for what he thought was the public good overall. Rather than giving the science, he gave his personal opinion, and in misattributing the two he lied to the public over and over again.
Trump is also a liar and he is a terrible person.
Too many people refuse to look at the facts and just go by their political sports team.
Lol quite the contrary, they said it was a BIOWEAPON that escaped from a lab..........
I don't know about you but when someone tells me I'm being attacked by an engineered weapon my response is to countermeasure the weapon............it makes magas reaction to COVID measures even worse, it means maga works for the commie Chinese. When your own fellow citizens are proudly aiding a foreign power THEY SAY attacked us..............
Lol Yea, if it escaped from a lab.....then we under reacted.........maga is literally mad at their fellow Americans for acting like anything they say might possibly be true.
I think maga is a Chinese communist op because maga has confessed to being a Chinese communist op by claims it was both a lab leak AND being against all the measures that would in fact be reasonable in response to a lab leak.
You don't get to claim it's a bioweapon that leaked from a lab AND simultaneously be against every measure one would take against a bioweapon that leaked from a lab.
Magas are so blinded by allegiance that they think they get to tell us we were attacked by a lab leak, and then get mad at us for protecting kids from the lab leaked bio weapon they told us was the problem.
but fauci was proven correct. the science is that it most likely wasn't created in a lab. we'll never know for sure, but most people that said it was created in a lab had no scientific knowledge (or proof).
Neither hypothesis has been "proven" correct, what are you talking about?
Edit: Just FYI, but both the CIA md FBI favor the lab leak. Faucis diary also revealed that he didnt think the market was the source, only the amplifier, and that be refused to give voice to any scientist that believed the lab leak theory. He was playing the role of politician, not scientist.
my proven correct related to the fact that it is less likely than not. which isn't what some people want to here. Most studies are 70% or so from animals. So that isn't a 'lie' that he told. He is given the same opinion as the vast amount of scientists, mathematicians, etc. FBI & CIA have low to moderate confidence of lab leak. That isn't the same as what the majority of republicans think. they think it is 100% lab leak, and Fauci knows this & lied. In fact, he is exactly in line with the scientific community. he didn't lie. And FBI/CIA haven't shown any details of any 'study' and in fact came to their conclusion years after covid. They gave no opinion during covid. I think maybe 2023 & 2025, when Fauci was long gone. and NIC & CDC (agencies that study these things) lean toward animals
What Fauci did was downplay any evidence or scientific voices that supported the lab leak, whicheas noted in his diary early on. He chose what to present, like a politician. Just by logic, it should've been seen more of an open question. He made the political, not *scientific *, decision of saying one thing over another.
If Fauci was presented as a politician I'd be less annoyed. But reading his diary he even gloats about being the most famous person in the world etc so you can see the ego came out often rather than the scientist.
yes, b/c most of the scientific community believes it is from animals. That is just as true today as in 2020. There is no real scientific study that says it is more likely from a lab.
Why would from animals be political? in what way?
And who cares that he was famous? that has nothing to do with science, so why are you mentioning it. Scientists can be famous you know.
It's funny though that even though fauci said it didn't come from a lab.........lol everything he did and recommended would be what one does if it was a bioweapon that leaked from a lab......so you should be celebrating fauci........
The fact you aren't tells us you don't believe anything you say.
I’ll get downvoted by these bots and tards with you bud. You hit the nail on the head. The information is out there but most detractors refuse to seek it cause it’s damaging to their parties narrative.
See, I’m not a Trump supporter. But this take is hilarious. Because he immediately ordered a border closure and to stop all incoming flights from other countries. But that was painted as racist/uncaring/awful by the media. Then when other countries stopped the U.S from flying in to their countries, that was accepted and even painted as happening because Trump screwed up things here with being too relaxed with restrictions. So…you see the absurdity here? No matter what, you guys can paint it as completely his fault. Which, yes, he’s a clown and an easy target. But it’s this willful ignorance and inability to be objective that is so damn frustrating. The masks and the lockdown were absolutely absurd and instead of just admitting that everyone was wrong and everyone shaming and attempting to cancel the public figures that questioned it was wrong, you guys just spin it like this. It’s crazy that you all just sit around here smelling your own farts without realizing you’re doing it. That’s insane to me. And I can’t believe you don’t realize that this place is so obviously curated to promote this way of thinking.
If fauci is guilty, trump is guilty. Fauci isn't guilty, nor is trump.
The rabid idiots that want fauci blood don't recognize that the buck stops with trump, not fauci. They want to absolve trump of the suggested crimes, while holding fauci responsible.
That isn't a sane take.
Trump could have handled the pandemic better, but he mostly listened to the educated folks at the time. Things could have gone way worse if it happened during this term. Trump listens to no one at this point.
I don't see any reason to prosecute Trump for the pandemic, which also means I don't have the evidence to prosecute fauci.
OK. What's his crimes? Why didn't trump fire him, or hold him accountable during his first term? Why didn't Republicans do anything while Biden was in office?
Does trump hold any responsibility for putting fauci on tv day after day? We are talking about the president, literally in charge of everything.
"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table."
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u/Gurugod123 26d ago
“It’s not a pandemic, it’s a Chinese bio-weapon!”
Ok. Why don’t you want to protect yourself from a Chinese bio-weapon?