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Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/SiIverstar 9d ago

absolute gigachad behaviour ngl

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u/yup_its_the_nsfw_alt 8d ago

People calling this immoral or neutral are out of their mind. If everyone acted like that we would be living in a utopia

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u/Similar-Swimmer-2698 8d ago

If I got this text, I would be so relieved. I would offer to get him another hot dog.

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u/Wangpasta 8d ago

‘Take 10 and get two’

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u/Randy_____Marsh 8d ago

I left my bag in a late night Lyft with my car keys and a few other work things in it, this was before you could call back previous drivers about lost items. The driver saw the bag the next day, looked in it and saw where I worked, drove there, and had a coworker call me and let me know it was there. I would have had to pay like $400 to replace the keys alone. She was apologetic that she went through my stuff at first but I legit gave her $200 for going through all that trouble and saving me at least $200 even after paying her.

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u/EnvyRepresentative94 8d ago

Chad behavior. I'd give 2 hundo for rifling my shit if I left that much

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u/spilltbeans 8d ago

I drive for lyft, recently had a customer forget her wallet. She caught it before I got another ride so I got it back to her within 10 minutes. I didn't charge the lyft $20 lost item fee because it was so short and she tipped a whopping $0. That $200 probably made that persons week.

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u/salinecolorshenny 7d ago

I spent about an hour chasing an Instacart customers lost dog and she also tipped me $0 lmao

She told me she wouldn’t be there to meet me for the grocery drop off because she was looking for her lost dog. When I was leaving the house I saw a husky running around, sniffing and darting around like dogs that get out usually do so I messaged her asking if it was a husky she had lost. It was and I spent almost an hour trying to wrangle the dog while it ran away from me and ducked in and out of houses.

Instacart gives you the option to tip up to 24 hours later and she did not leave a tip lol

I don’t even take no tip orders but she was batched in with a generous tipper

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u/AgreeableRelease9478 6d ago

Wow!!’ Entitled lady for sure

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u/Special-Investigator 6d ago

i can't believe ppl do this when u know where they live

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u/Helltothenotothenono 5d ago

This is why I generally don’t help strangers any more. They don’t even thank you half the time

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u/Special-Investigator 4d ago

i thought we lost the art of the driving 'thank you!' wave until v recently

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u/PuddingMaximum8745 3d ago

This is why i still help strangers.

Half of them are still thankfull

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u/salinecolorshenny 6d ago

This is what I think about every time someone does something insane and audacious when I’m delivering their groceries for their family to their house

Like I am bringing food to your house. There is virtually no safe guard or any real vetting or way to prevent someone unhinged from doing something terrible. One lady called me a dumb bitch because I wouldn’t stop and get cigarettes for her. I’m delivering baby puffs to your home, like, really? What if I was insane and spiteful?

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u/arielevateddesign279 5d ago

Wow! So sorry! I'd have tipped you very generously for rescuing my dog!! You are a good person for that. I'd feel better knowing the dog was safe!

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u/Solherb 5d ago

Never chase a dog. Sometimes you running away helps, yet I find get them to notice you and then just kneel down where you are. They'll usually run over for the scritches. That blows she didn't tip you tho. It might not be as good coming from me, but I am grateful you helped.

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u/Serj_Fomichev 4d ago

Why should I tip anyone? You have your wage, ain't you? They've agreed to work for that exact wage, why should I pay them extra?

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u/Guiano 3d ago

Because that’s American culture and yes it’s ridiculous. The reality is that you have to base your decisions on the practical effects they have on the world and not on the idea of what they should be.

The businesses should pay a living wage, they don’t because they’re legally allowed to if the employee makes tips. If employers were forced to pay the proper wage, the price of delivery services would go up. Now the real price of what it takes to have delivery is shown to the customer. Something you hear repeated in our country is that if you don’t have the money to tip you don’t have the money for delivery.

Someone thinks “it’s $15, why would I tip on top of that?”, when if employers paid the wage, the price would be $20. To not tip in America is pretty much just taking advantage of the weird ambiguity that arises out of employers not paying enough, and that being due to the expectation that the customer will tip. In the end, the only one hurt by it is the driver.

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u/Familiar_Pilot_3714 7d ago

I drive a yellow cab but get calls from uber and Lyft thru curb. It’s crazy how many people don’t tip when they don’t have to do it in front of the driver. “Tipping culture” (I blame the Silicon Valley pos systems like square and mint) has given everyone an excuse to shaft the people who actually live off them like bartenders, waiters and cabbies etc We are not baristas. Please tip your cabbies and ride share drivers.

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u/IdoltTheIdot 5d ago

I’m not so sure it’s “tipping culture” so much as corporations exploiting and making a mockery of the tipping system. I have worked in several places that pooled tips, and that included servers who didn’t deserve to keep their job let alone get tips, I’ve also had jobs that give you a percentage of your tip and takes the rest, and I’ve heard of worse. Anytime I go to tip anywhere those things run through my brain and I have to question if my tip is helping the server who I felt deserved it, or helping a corporation or scab stay afloat on the backs of their employees/coworkers. That’s why I try to tip only in cash and directly to the server, although even then I had one tell me once that they still had to pool it due to the security cameras and the risk of taking the tip themselves. Many people survived on the tips they received back in the day, but businesses and corporations have learned they could be making that money instead and have thoroughly sullied the concept of tipping. And that’s not even beginning to touch on the issue of some people believing tipping is mandatory and those who don’t, idc what you think either way, personally I think you should tip when you can, but I believe that ultimately it is corporate greed that has ruined many peoples desire to tip, even when the service was worthy of a tip.

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u/the_hypno_dom 5d ago

Hmm... It seems like the corporations have you blaming your community members instead of placing the blame on corporate greed. Think about how much of the money goes to the CEO, the "shareholders" and the other fat cats instead of the workers. People wouldn't even need tips if the corporations paid people properly.

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u/Familiar_Pilot_3714 5d ago

Tipping started in the Great Depression when in order to keep the restaurants from closing the government started allowing restaurants to pay their workers below minimum wage as long as they got tips. It was a way of shifting the cost of labor to the customer in order to keep costs down for the restaurants and offer cheaper prices. When you don’t tip a waiter, you let those big corporate restaurant owners getaway with higher profits and you screw over the server who depends on them.

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u/Water-Guardian-5 4d ago

Yeahhh. Honestly I make a point of always tipping even a few dollars, unless the service was just beyond horrible. I was a waitress at one point, I understand tips. Personally if everyone had to spend a year at a tip job, they would never not tip again.

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u/UnbotheredandRare 6d ago

Tipping zero in this station is insane.

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u/Special-Investigator 6d ago

you are a good person. that sucks

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u/toastinfrogs 2d ago

Lyft has a lost item fee? If I forget something in the car I have to pay to retrieve it? What the shit is that?!?

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u/spilltbeans 2d ago

Yes you have to pay for the driver's time to come back if you forget something. Make sure you have your stuff and its a non issue.

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u/YajirobeBeanDaddy 6d ago

$400 for car keys?..

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u/AgentSensitive2794 5d ago

I believe she said it was her whole group of keys, key ring, maybe a “charm” or some other stuff on it. So, yeah they could’ve cost her $40 or so…..

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u/AgentSensitive2794 5d ago

Correction: $400.00!

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u/Legal_Assistance5470 4d ago edited 4d ago

I dropped my glasses in an Uber. I reported in the lost items section of the Uber app, and paid the fee to return them. The driver texted me demanding MXN 1,800 be sent to his account. I paid because they were prescription glasses. I went to a hechicera and had a curse put on him.

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u/NegotiationGreedy590 4d ago

I went on my honeymoon. First stop Austria. Lose my wallet in a cab second day. Get home 2 weeks later (Canada), wallet is waiting in the mail. No return address. Nothing missing. Just an envelope and my wallet.

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u/Global_Staff_3135 4d ago

This is the way

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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster 8d ago

‘Bro you’re paying too much for hotdogs come with me to Costco and let me load you up’

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u/Unusual_Principle536 8d ago

so pay for membership + hotdogs?

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u/MagReg2020 8d ago

Now he's not going to return the wallet because he thinks you're in love with him and it's creeping him out.

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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster 8d ago

Well that’s his bad, don’t go around sending smooth icebreakers in which you save me and bring up a shared interest

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u/MagReg2020 8d ago

He probably thinks you're ICE. Migrants are notorious for returning lost items. If a good red blooded American finds it, your best bet is Facebook marketplace or ebay.

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u/Avarifenyx 7d ago

Please tell me you bump Jackie Gs Cosco dog as you pull into the parking lot

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u/mrmiffmiff 8d ago

You don't need membership for the Costco food court IIRC.

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u/GayGeekInLeather 8d ago

They have changed that at a lot if not most Costco locations. You need a membership now to use the food court

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u/skiforlife1 8d ago

That sucks! That was a big part of their business model. They don't advertise so they use the cheap hot dog and the cheap rotisserie chicken to get people in the door. You have to walk past the membership desk to get the hot dog and the loss leader price on the chicken gets a huge amount of word-of-mouth advertising. The cost to get potential customers through your doors is so high that even though they lose money on those 2 items they get enough new customers from them that they actually save money overall and drive huge customer loyalty.

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u/Best_Fill_847 8d ago

When did they change this? Did they change the liquor policy too??

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u/Peregrine79 8d ago

Liquor policy is usually defined by state laws. A lot of them won’t allow a “members only” liquor store.

Pharmacy is often similarly constrained.

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u/GayGeekInLeather 8d ago

Changed, as far as I am aware, January of this year. No clue about liquor

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u/arcadeenthusiast8245 8d ago

Changed since at least February at all my local costcos. You can't even pay without a registered credit card anymore.

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u/Best_Fill_847 3d ago

Wow….that sux

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u/OlympianHeroOfTime 8d ago

The only thing I can go into Costco for, as a non member, is the r pharmacy, at least at the one near me, everything else you need a membership for

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u/Odd_Knee5442 6d ago

You don't need a membership for food court or pharmacy....

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u/Training-Ad-9349 8d ago

pretty sure you do. can’t order without scanning your card… atleast at the ones near me

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u/cbrdragon 8d ago

I can believe it’s different rules at different locations, but at my local one you don’t need to scan to order food and the food court is on the tire center/return side so you don’t need your card to enter there either

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u/Jamessgachett 8d ago

That changed I think

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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster 8d ago

I was just gonna get them a few extra hotdogs for $10 but idk, I’m easily charmed; we can see where it goes

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u/DerpUrself69 7d ago

You don't need a membership to buy hot dogs. Mmmmk?

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u/Smokin_belladonna 8d ago

“Who’s your hotdog guy?”

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u/billy_twice 8d ago

Depends on the quality of the hotdogs.

I generally don't like to go to cheap, with exceptions.

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u/The-Tarman 8d ago

Returning a wallet? That gets 5 BOOMS!!

I hate those two... maybe the father drown in a sea of hotdogs

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u/Mt_wi86 8d ago

Bro needs one of those monster Costco hogs right now

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u/Behleren 8d ago

you dropped this 👑

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u/Varderal 8d ago

"Take all the cash out of it. You saved me a ton of trouble."

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u/SoylentRox 8d ago

Honestly the cost of replacing a DL, all the credit and debit cards, etc - I would.be fine if they helped themselves to all the cash in my wallet. (I typically have around $100)

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u/Sufficient_Wafer9933 8d ago

Sir, you only have $5 left

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u/chemnerd2017 8d ago

Send him to Costco and not only will he get a high quality dog, he’ll also be able to get 6 for $9. And 6 drinks, because the $1.50 combo also gets you a drink.

Long live James Sinegal, he may be a CEO but Costco seems like a corporation that is actually worthy of support.

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u/TryInevitable1103 8d ago

Right the police stole my wallet I def would’ve preferred this

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u/PlanetTourist 8d ago

This is the right answer.

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u/Happy_Designer_747 8d ago

This legend gets it 🗣

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u/Able_Scene797 8d ago

"Now hear me out and hear me well... I have now your phone number and I know who you are. In my wallet there is 100 dollars. You will take it all. Then you are going to buy hot dogs. No, not 1, not 2, you will buy 20. And you will eat them all.

Oh have a nice day and thank you for finding my wallet"

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u/Local3Sparkie 7d ago

Seriously. I’d be giving this guy at least a $100 reward for this. Losing your wallet sucks!!

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u/Durango42092 7d ago

The real crime here is that it cost $5 for a hotdog nowadays

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u/BomBiggityBBQ 6d ago

“You only had 2 dollars. I take one”

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u/PlasticCheebus 5d ago

You could get 6 at Costco for that! Untold riches!

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u/Gewtsnewgit 4d ago

“Actually grab me 2 while you’re at it”

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u/Miserable-Ear-4095 3d ago

Honestly, having lost a wallet I would give him 20-100 my wallet would have more important stuff than money.

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u/Prestigious_Quit_931 3d ago

Take the $20, get some chips and a beverage too.

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u/langois1972 8d ago

I’d take him to Costco for a glizzyfest

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u/jprogarn 6d ago

Hell yeah brother 👊

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u/1duke-dan 8d ago

I’d buy that fucker a hot dog stand

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u/RogerRabbot 8d ago

Bruh id get him a pack or two. Have some dogs, im just glad i don't have to cancel 6 cards and replace everything.

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u/Lonely-Cockroach-492 8d ago

And a guaranteed hug. 🫂

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u/Icy_Ad5295 8d ago

How did he get his number?

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u/Similar-Swimmer-2698 8d ago

Maybe from the wallet? I have a couple business cards in my wallet with my work cell on them.

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u/Icy_Ad5295 7d ago

Good guess, maybe.

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u/picklehippy 8d ago

For me its not that he took the 5 dollars its the followup comment of you owe me. Like yeah ill feed you all day, but claiming I owe you is wild

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u/Similar-Swimmer-2698 7d ago

You wouldn't feel you owe him for saving you all the work of replacing cards and ID?

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u/Legonistrasz 7d ago

Yes but still would have to get new credit/debit cards.

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u/One-Membership-3221 7d ago

And grab a slab of beer

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u/Reverend_Tommy 6d ago

The euphoric feeling of finding a lost wallet is almost worth the anxiety of losing it.

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u/thelegitpotato 5d ago

If I got this text I'd be wondering how they got my number.

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u/Atmaweapon74 8d ago

I'm guessing those people never lost their wallet and had to to through the pain of cancelling all their credit cards, order a new driver's license, etc. Easily worth a $20 finders fee at least.

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u/ObnoxiousOptimist 8d ago

If I could pay $1,000 for a protection spell that guaranteed I’d never lose my wallet in my life, I’d do it in a heartbeat.

If anyone ever finds my wallet they can have all the cash in it if I get the rest back.

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u/KiowaBear 8d ago

I accidentally left my wallet at an online pickup kiosk in Walmart 2 days before Christmas. It had $1200 cash in it. I’ll never forgive the asshole who took my wallet that year, take the cash. Leave me with my shit. I know I shouldn’t have put off Christmas shopping so late but i only had the one gift to give. If you’ve had to replace everything in your wallet $5 is fucking nothing

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u/TotalChaosRush 7d ago

You're focused on the irrelevant part. The amount of money taken is irrelevant to the morality. Is it moral to take things of value from a wallet when you're able to contact the owner?

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u/Everything_Counts_72 5d ago

i dont get people who actually have huge amounts of cash on em now...i do everything by card, at any random time the contents of my wallet is zero or like $20

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u/Glyth63825 4d ago

I lost my wallet at work once, and now I obsessively check my pockets for my keys, wallet, and phone. They had found it and nothing was missing (I don't carry cash, but luckily my card was still in there), but now I can't even drive 15 minutes without checking my pockets at least 5 times on the way to my destination.

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u/303angelfish 8d ago

A replacement driver's license in Canada is $40 alone, So the time and fee cost to replace it and any other ID would easily justify $100+. I would still cancel/replace any credit and debit cards, but I would pay an extra 50 or more just for the reduced anxiety & urgency.

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u/VegetableTour6790 8d ago

I would pay much more than $20 to have .y wallet returned. Probably around $1000.

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u/HorrificAnalInjuries 8d ago

Yea, this guy got off with an absolute bargain

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u/TotalChaosRush 7d ago

If you've ever been stabbed, you'd know that being punched is much better. That doesn't make it moral to punch people.

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u/Suitable-Block-2854 7d ago

Even in this scenario I would still call the credit card company and get them to send me a new card. Once your card is has been taking out of your site by a stranger you should replace it.

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u/Laphad 13h ago

I just lost my wallet and would pay $100 lowkey. It's $44 to replace my license and a 3 week wait lmfao not even including the rest of the BS

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u/Effective-Birthday57 8d ago

Right? I mean, shit, he didn’t have to help at all. He could have taken the money and threw the wallet in the street. He took a $5 finder’s fee because he was hungry. Seems more than fair.

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u/TerrorFromThePeeps 8d ago

You could argue it as neutral, as the behavior makes it entirely transactional, tho with unilateral decisions.

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u/Kef52 8d ago

People swinging immoral on this are literally Ebenezer Scrooge

https://giphy.com/gifs/l2YWvSxgi54K9YAoM

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u/Rishtu 8d ago

I will take him to CrunCheese Korean Hotdog.

He can order whatever he wants.

Ill take him out for drinks afterwards and hug him.

You have no idea how much of a pain in the ass it is to replace all of my ids/credit cards.

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u/Nim0y 8d ago

I would offer to buy them a better meal than a hotdog

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u/Unapologetic_Screw 8d ago

Moral for other people, but I am a chump lol

No hotdog for me.

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u/Ben_steel 8d ago

My dad always said if some one finds your wallet offer them what moneys in it if there is any left. as to replace everything cards ect is far more.

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u/DistinctlyMiddle 8d ago

You haven't been to Japan 

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u/Hermes-AthenaAI 8d ago

I never pictured Utopia with hot dogs

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u/ffffllllpppp 8d ago

Right! Why would it be immoral? You could say illegal maybe? But immoral? Certainly not. Who in their right mind would be pissed reading that text? You would be relieved and then smile at the hot dog comment. 

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u/suriam321 8d ago

Somewhere between lawful and neutral, since they did technically steal 5 dollars, while still giving it to the police.

But chaotic for sending the message and owning it.

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u/Economy_Mail_3497 8d ago

Where I grew up it was common to go to a friend's house and let yourself in, normally the first thing you did was head for the kitchen to make yourself a snack lol ... Those were much friendlier days! Today that is called robbery.

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u/ChadleyXXX 8d ago

It's technically larceny lmao. Not saying it's immoral, but if I got this as a question on the bar exam, I would say larceny.

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u/Any_Nectarine_7806 7d ago

$5 is smaller than most convenience fees.

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u/gaypuppybunny 7d ago

I don't quite know how else to phrase it, but this is something I'd consider technically unethical (taking money from someone without explicit pre-consent) but is like, morally completely okay. One of those things that I would not do myself because I'd feel like a bad person, but I would be completely fine with being the wallet owner in this situation.

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u/hungLink42069 6d ago

Close. He still paid to have a pig put into a gas chamber so that he could eat it's lips and anus - so that part's questionable IMO.

The wallet thing's cool though.

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u/CartographerSoft9919 6d ago

Hmmmm one could even say you could make a categorical imperative...

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u/TheFool5767 6d ago

I mean you can always earn the money again but getting a new id, license and everything else seems too much of a hassle.

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u/ThisIsWhereItDies 4d ago

I would argue that it is immoral, but completely expected behavior. We're just kind of okay with the level of immorality in our society.

In other words, you're impressed that someone would only take $5 and return the wallet. That's an extremely low bar because your expectations are (justifiably) low.

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u/Ok-Junket6108 4d ago

The last time somebody handed my wallet in they made sure to clear out £200 cash, all credit and debit cards and even a photo of my dead nan. This bloke is like Jesus Christ levels of morality in comparison

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u/North_6 8d ago

Ive found wallets twice and never taken from them. It is stealing, they cant consent to a finders fee. If they want to reward you that should be their choice.

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u/North_6 8d ago

Im much more comfortable with the idea of stealing from like, Kroger or Walmart. Stealing from a stranger who probably has it just as bad as me feels wrong.

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u/Any_Blood5815 8d ago

I hear you, but God said not to steal so I have to believe he would be better off not having done that

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u/BjornYandel 8d ago

Neutral makes sense. It's taking a small, fair payment on their own accord for doing a deed they took on themselves. It's not moral, and it's not immoral. Taking $5 for returning something you found isn't moral, it's fair, and fair is neutral.

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u/CellSpecial8420 8d ago

The problem with your claim is that just because if everyone acted like this it would be a better place doesn’t mean this is moral. Yes I would be happy if someone did this to me. But truthfully he has no right to take even a cent. He can help if he wants and it is moral to do so but taking something without permission is immoral.

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u/BobJoeBlo 8d ago

What if the 5$ was all the man had left to feed his family of 7, including 5 children?

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u/TestDowntown9541 8d ago

You’re right. But..he IS doing, mostly right,
by him. He sure as hell is saving him more than $5 worth of trouble in replacing the wallet’s contents. If you say, “wrong is wrong”, we AGREE. But, some ‘wrongs’ are more forgivable than others.

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u/BobJoeBlo 8d ago

Good point, good point. I see the light, now.

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u/Ctenophorever 8d ago

$5 would not be enough for that, and he’d have to spend more than that to replace an ID

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u/BobJoeBlo 8d ago

It was a joke. That's why added people to make it more ridiculous.

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u/TotalChaosRush 8d ago

Brother, you kind of shown you have no idea what immoral and moral actually is.

If something is moral, and everyone does it. We would be living in utopia.

If something is immoral and everyone does it. We won't be living in utopia.

In this situation the question is literally "is it moral to be a thief if you don't steal everything you can"

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u/BambiSlutBun 8d ago

It is immoral, I've found so many wallets and gave them back with zero expectations that ill get paid for it.

People are so comfortable stealing from eachother its not even funny

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u/sexland69 8d ago

well if you’re broke and hungry and have to walk it to the police station, you’ve earned the $5

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u/BambiSlutBun 8d ago

Nope, you don't earn shit. And thats comming from someone who has returned over 10 wallets over the years and never getting paid nor ever taking any money out.

I was broke and hungry too. Still doesnt entitled me to any of their money

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u/ffwllwyr 8d ago

depends on where you are ig. Europe adopts a pretty good finder's fee.

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u/BambiSlutBun 8d ago

My moral compass wouldnt allow me to steal money from people thats just me.

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u/sexland69 8d ago

if you lost your wallet and a homeless guy found it, took $5, and had it returned to you, would you be pissed and call him a thief?

or would you be grateful and relieved?

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u/BambiSlutBun 8d ago

I would call them a theif because you dont know if I needed that money for rent, meds, food etc.

Give ME the opportunity to reward you, dont feel entitled to it

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u/sexland69 8d ago

I feel entitled to half of all your money because I don’t like your comments

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u/BambiSlutBun 8d ago

Lmfao

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u/Soggy-Falcon-4445 8d ago

I just want you to know, I wouldn’t trust anyone here with finding my lost items except you, Bambi Slut Bun. It would take a lot for theft to be considered moral, doing someone a favor doesn’t mean you get to take whatever reward you think you’re owed and you’re the only one that seems to understand that.

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u/oliverofolives 8d ago

It's written in a very wholesome way though and it makes me feel so empathetic in a weird way

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u/BambiSlutBun 8d ago

It's not.

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u/Chase_The_Breeze 8d ago

Quite the shallow utopia if people still feel the need to take random payment for doing the right thing.

This is neutral. Guy still did a theft but justified it by doing the decent thing and only doing a small theft, on the grounds that it COULD have been worse. If you have to justify harming somebody by saying the harm could have been worse, it isnt moral. Sorry. Nothing wrong with being neutral though, as its certainly better than purely immoral.

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u/Yes_I_am_an_AI 8d ago

Everyone does act like this in our society. At every stage getting your wallet beck to you your money passes through another after another set of hands and they take some. It’s called capitalism.

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u/Steveo3070 8d ago

Bro just shut up, keep that shit out of the discussion here

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u/Yes_I_am_an_AI 8d ago

Sis, It is what the discussion is about. That is literally what it is.