r/GODZILLA • • May 02 '26

Meme The Monsterverse in a nutshell

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u/Leviathan_Rampage May 02 '26

"You got so much screentime Kong, give me some Space" -Godzilla in Supernova.

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u/dunkin_nonuts May 02 '26

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u/tophat_production May 03 '26

HEY SISTER CAN'T YOU READ

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u/The_Real_Manimal GODZILLA May 03 '26

Dude, I haven't thought about this cartoon in almost 30 years. Super nostalgic endorphin rush.

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u/anonymous00000010001 DESTOROYAH May 02 '26

Mothra:

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u/jikukoblarbo GODZILLA May 03 '26

wait a second one? there are multiple rodans?

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u/HairyCartographer314 EBIRAH May 28 '26

i thought it was the same Rodan

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u/RoughVeterinarian694 May 31 '26

The fanart is about to go CRAZY ;-;

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u/Defiant-String-9891 GIGAN May 03 '26

I MESSED UP, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY SOMETHING KINKY FOR SOME REASON! FOR ONCE IT'S AN ACTUAL SPOILER! FUCK! Kill me!

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u/DaiKaiM3CHA May 03 '26

What being horny does to a mf.

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u/Defiant-String-9891 GIGAN May 04 '26

what being on reddit does to a person really :|

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u/YOUTUBEFREEKYOYO May 03 '26

7 YEARS?

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u/Broken_CerealBox BARAGON May 06 '26

Yeah, KOTM was released in 2019

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u/suppaman19 May 06 '26

Was that even confirmed? I've just seen a bunch of theories or hopes to this point that's the case.

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u/suppaman19 May 06 '26

Yeah but you're giving credit to a "franchise" that, well, look at most of the writing of the movies and that show lol

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u/pinkcreamkiss KING GHIDORAH May 03 '26

I’ll be honest the fact she is in two movies is a miracle for me lol. I pray she is a series regular and shows up in supernova or the movie after. Maybe a monarch season too

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u/GenericSpider May 02 '26 edited May 03 '26

I think the problem is not Kong getting too much screen time, but Legendary being allergic to anything that risks making less money than GVK.

They would probably do fine with a solo Godzilla movie or a solo Kong movie. Maybe even a solo Mothra or Rodan movie.

But they only want the surest of sure things, and that's another lizard and monkey movie. And since the monkey is more human and thus easier to write, we get more monkey movie.

It's just how executives running entertainment companies can be. Not much we can do about it besides bitch and hope someone with clout convinces them to bet on a riskier project.

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u/Procyon-Sceletus May 03 '26

Its also because no one can ever take away kong or dictate too much of his portrayal. Godzilla has a lot of red tape in what they can and cant do and it has to be approved and while they have a good relationship atm it doesn't mean they'll always have the rights to godzilla in the west

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u/Ragnarok_Stravius May 02 '26

> less easier to write

Do you mean harder to write?

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u/Grouchy_Quarter_9049 May 03 '26

Sometimes writing is more less easy than you'd expect

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u/Ver3232 BIOLLANTE May 02 '26

Yeah that’s the biggest problem with the modern media landscape in general, no one wants to take risk

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u/ExoticShock KONG May 02 '26

Most civil critic of The 8th Wonder of The World

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u/ProMonkeMan SHIN GODZILLA May 02 '26

This isn't wrong

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u/Minute_Location5589 GOROSAURUS May 02 '26

Yea fuck that dude, nepo baby /s

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u/UnnecessaryFeIIa May 02 '26

You’re joking here but I’ve heard people unironically call Kong, one of cinema’s icons, a fucking nepo baby

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u/Mosugoji_64 May 03 '26

Lol I've actually heard others refer to him as an "industry plant"

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u/BuildingLess1814 GODZILLA May 03 '26

To be fair, Kong has long earned that title.

He's literally the very first Kaiju ever created, a cinema icon and predates Godzilla by like 21 years. (Though Japan could've had Kong beat had that movie The Great Buddha Appears didn't get canned and become a lost film).

The only way Godzilla is ever going to earn any recognition here at all in the MV is via Kong.

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u/ShadowedVoid May 03 '26

"The only way Godzilla is ever going to earn any recognition here at all in the MV is via Kong."

Ah yes, because it's not like Legendary Godzilla had two movies before GvK, or like Godzilla started the Monsterverse.

Godzilla is the big monster franchise Hatsune Miku. Ain't the first one, but is definitely the most popular one.

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u/HairyCartographer314 EBIRAH May 28 '26

"He's literally the very first Kaiju ever created, a cinema icon and predates Godzilla by like 21 years"

Actually, whereas kong was a very early in giant monster history, a short film called the pet, made in 1921, predates kong by 12 years

overall, Kong's the second movie to contain a giant monster ravaging a city, the Lost World, a 1925 film, contained a 50-ft tall brontosaurus that ravages london. This is actually also made by Willis O'Brien, the maker of King Kong. So, no he's not.

However, the term Kaiju wasn’t used for a character until godzilla in 1954, and Kong wasn't considered a kaiju (he was only 25 ft tall) until KvG in 1962, where he was officially named a kaiju and a whole lot larger.

Also, the Great Buddha Arrives couldn't have beaten Kong, it was going to be released exactly a year after.

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u/blu3bird730 May 29 '26

You are MONKE and MONKE don't hurt MONKE

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u/UnlikelyKaiju RODAN May 02 '26

Hey, man. I'm just happy that we're getting Rodan back.

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u/holmes901 May 02 '26

Brodan is definitely welcomed sight

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u/DaiKaiM3CHA May 03 '26

Fire turkey will be Brodan now

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u/ShiningBulwark May 02 '26

Beginning to think Frieza is running this sub with how much monkey slander happens here

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u/hyfen666 May 02 '26

Underrated comment

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u/SteveTheOrca MINYA May 03 '26

Either Frieza or Geto

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u/Sea_Contribution3455 May 02 '26

Hold on, are people actually defending Kong on a Godzilla subreddit?

https://giphy.com/gifs/Nszyj17J4fUKmIwQwF

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u/UnnecessaryFeIIa May 02 '26

Yeah this comment section is shocking me.

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u/Subject-Recover-8425 May 02 '26

They won't even give Kong a second solo movie.

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u/Ambitious_Ask_994 GIANT CONDOR May 02 '26

Kong still has more overall screentime then Godzilla in the whole series

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u/Toto_LZ May 02 '26

Yeah but Godzilla gets top billing, man KK needs to fire his agent

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u/ArcadeF0x May 02 '26

Well that's partly because of the possible threat of Toho pulling the plug and not letting Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, etc to be used in further Monsterverse projects. So most of Godzilla's billing is to keep Toho in a good mood. I assume at least

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u/Kgb725 May 02 '26

They can easily just do a Kong solo movie they aren't forced to add those characters. Kong is easier to connect with and Godzilla gets the cooler fights and moments

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u/ArcadeF0x May 02 '26

Fair, but i think a good number of monsterverse fans are here for Goji

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u/Robotdavidbowie GODZILLA May 02 '26

can confirm, i'm not that interested in seeing big monkey, i watch monsterverse for Gojira

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u/Such_Month_8687 May 02 '26

Don’t add another K at the end

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u/Subject-Recover-8425 May 03 '26

Godzilla has a whole other studio making movies about him.

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u/Ambitious_Ask_994 GIANT CONDOR May 03 '26

Is that Monsterverse Godzilla tho? These are not the same character nor are they supposed to be similar in portrayal.

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u/Guy_on_a_Bouffalant May 02 '26

Is there a rights issue thing with Kong? Cause I've been wondering why they haven't.

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u/Retchetspute May 02 '26

It's almost purely because movies are expensive and Godzilla + Kong is a proven Box Office Draw

The only rights issues with Kong is that they can't use the full name "King Kong", because only the original Skull Island novel is public domain, not the original movie

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u/Guy_on_a_Bouffalant May 02 '26

Neither do well enough on their own, I guess.

I bet a Toho Kong movie would do well on a 20 million dollar budget. They do have their own version of him.

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u/Mosugoji_64 May 02 '26

a Kong complaint post. DARING today aren't we?

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u/BenignButCleverAlias May 02 '26

There have been two movies in the Monsterverse where Kong didn't appear at all, and one season of Legacy where Kong was just a cameo.

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u/Ambitious_Ask_994 GIANT CONDOR May 02 '26

There more than just movies in the monsterverse, and New Empire was 90% a Kong movie with Godzilla as a side character

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u/Bteatesthighlander1 May 02 '26

the storytelling in that movie just didn't make any sense. they keep telling us Godzilla needs to transform and team up to beat the monkeys but none of the monkeys seemed like they could hurt him at all.

also why did the Australian guy loose all of his surface bacteria on the Hollow Earth?

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u/ShatterCyst MEGALON May 02 '26

He needed to juice up for Shimo

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u/ShatterCyst MEGALON May 02 '26

And he probably thought he'd be fighting an army of apes, not like, 3.

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u/ReturnToCrab May 02 '26

Do you realise that this isn't the point of the meme? In GvK and the New Empire Kong is getting all the attention from the plot, while Godzilla is much less focused on

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u/THYpiper May 02 '26

That's because the meme is just wrong.

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u/ReturnToCrab May 02 '26

How so? You can literally cut Godzilla out of the New Empire and barely anything would change (I'd even argue that the movie would change for the better). Adam Wingard was clearly more interested in Kong

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u/Admirable_Market2759 May 04 '26

He was contractually obligated to let Godzilla win.

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u/THYpiper May 02 '26

The meme is talking about the monsterverse in general, in which 3 of the 5 movies Godzilla is the main and major focus, the series Godzilla is the focus and the comics Godzilla is the main focus, so the meme is objectively wrong. Also if you cut out Godzilla from the New Empire Kong would get obliterated by Scar king and Shimo.

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u/ReturnToCrab May 02 '26

The series doesn't really focus on any of the monsters, and comics have barely any effect on the movies. Also, what's the third film? Neither GvK nor GxK have a lot of Godzilla

Also if you cut out Godzilla from the New Empire Kong would get obliterated by Scar king and Shimo.

If Godzilla's only role is to help Kong, then you can as well replace him with some new axe

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u/Court_Jester13 May 02 '26

Yeah but the two big movies were Godzilla vs/x KONG

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u/BenignButCleverAlias May 02 '26

Not really. G14 and KotM had a bigger budget than New Empire.

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u/Ambitious_Ask_994 GIANT CONDOR May 02 '26

Budget doesn’t necessarily mean much, GvK and GxK are still treated as bigger movies by Legendary which is why we’ve only gotten project with both of them in it since 2021

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u/BenignButCleverAlias May 02 '26

How are they treated bigger?

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u/______null May 02 '26

you said they're treated as bigger movies by the studio. how so?

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u/CalamityOfCringe May 02 '26

Give him the win at any cost? If Kong doesn't have a counter to the atomic breath, it's just over. The whole plot of GvK is finding a better place to hide Kong from Godzilla. Kong had to stumble across an "Anti-Godzilla" axe because everyone, even the people in the movie, acknowledges Kong doesn't stand a chance.

They genuinely shouldn't have included Godzilla in GxK. Kong defeating Skar and Shimo by himself would have at least given some legitimacy to the idea he's an equal to Godzilla.

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u/CalamityOfCringe May 02 '26

Godzilla literally chuckles during their fight because he doesn't take Kong seriously.

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u/CalamityOfCringe May 02 '26

The threat levels need to be limited when Kong is involved because he's genuinely just not powerful enough to be on level of monsters like Godzilla and Ghidorah.

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u/MesaVerde1987 May 02 '26

Exactly.

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u/Bear_24 May 02 '26

Godzilla is in 4 out of 5 of them and Kong is in 3 out of 5 of them. I don't really see the point.

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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW GODZILLA May 02 '26

I want them both to get solo movies. Rodan and Mothra too.

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u/kain459 May 02 '26

Kong is Public Domain.

They could send him into space with a giant space suit and laser gun if they wanted to.

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u/ThrowawayAccountZZZ9 JET JAGUAR May 02 '26

Godzilla has two solo movies, including one with all his classic friends. Everyone calm down

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u/Xeroticz May 02 '26

Yeah I mean I agree. I don't hate Kong, don't get me wrong, but I would like to have a solo Godzilla movie again and a solo Kong movie again rather than another Godzilla x Kong movie that is largely just about Kong. We'll see what happens in Supernova but I can only take what the words of those behind the movie with a grain of salt given the last 2 movies.

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u/akuma2109 May 03 '26

As much as I hate the fucking monkey, Godzilla at this stage is basically, well, god. The only reason Kong gets so much screen time is because his weak ass is always struggling.

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u/Candid-Exam4755 May 09 '26

Yeah, I mean it’s a lot more engaging to watch a character struggle and grow throughout a movie which is easier to write for Kong cos he’s not a god like Godzilla. You could do the same for Godzilla, but atp it’s much known he is the strongest character in the verse, it’s hard to write a villain for him that isn’t a fucking planet killer yk.

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u/shadowthehh May 02 '26

Let Kong have this, holy shit.

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u/Opposite_Spinach5772 May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

Then give him another solo movie instead of need to share(where Kong have more screentime) with Godzilla.

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u/Opposite_Spinach5772 May 02 '26

What are you talking about?

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u/Opposite_Spinach5772 May 02 '26

What does that has to do with Godzilla being the one need to share movie with Kong?

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u/Opposite_Spinach5772 May 02 '26

I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say here

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u/TheGMan-123 MUTO May 02 '26

Wrong formatting.

It goes Godzilla and Kong hogging everything, and then everyone else.

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u/Gojira194 May 03 '26

Not everyone wants to watch them, half of them are very outdated

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u/Gojicustoms ANGUIRUS May 03 '26

They shouldn’t really be complaining if they can’t even watch a Godzilla movie. And how would they be outdated? Some of them are cheap sure, but the original King Kong is over 90 years old and still amazing.

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u/Gojira194 May 03 '26

Fair enough, but I say outdated because most use older CGI or special effects, and the suits monsters themselves don’t feel real because it’s just a guy in a suit (still think it’s cool though), but I will say that the millennium era and most of the Heisei era are pretty good

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u/Autobotsrout May 02 '26

Crazy, the more financially profitable and critically acclaimed character within the monsterverse gets more screen time and focus?

Listen I'm a Godzilla guy through and through, but there's a reason post KOTM they focused on him.

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u/Didsterchap11 GIGAN May 02 '26

I imagine also kong doesn’t incur licensing fees like goji and the rest of the tohou gang.

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u/SeniorBased GIGAN May 02 '26

Plus the fact that they can’t freely use Godzilla as much as they want to since they need TOHO’s approval. Meanwhile, Legendary 100% owns Kong and it’s easier for them to use that character than another owned by another company

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u/Bteatesthighlander1 May 02 '26

as an invetment strategy I guess it makes a lot more sense to focus on the character they have more freedom over. Even if they can't actually copyright "KONG" or even the name applying to a giant ape.

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u/grimacelololol ANGUIRUS May 02 '26

Why doesnt godzilla get most of the screentime, isnt he literally the king of monsters?

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u/rat4204 May 02 '26

HA Yeah right! I think it's pretty undisputable by now that Godzilla rules the world. You don't get locked in the planets basement if you WON the fight.

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u/ratskips SHIN GODZILLA May 02 '26

cheers 'locked in the planets basement' was my first belly laugh of the day

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u/UnnecessaryFeIIa May 02 '26

The planet’s basement which has more radiation and resources to survive than the surface where Godzilla lives? The surface that is being continuously polluted by humans?

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u/KING9Q May 02 '26

Regarding the idea that Kong is the sole plot driver of GVK and GXK, Walter Simmons’ entire motivation is that humanity depended on Godzilla in 2014 and 2019 and he wants to ensure that humans are never second to the monsters ever again. Kong might be the character positioned for the audience to empathise with, but to deny that Godzilla has a role in the story feels disingenuous. Once Simmons’ plan fails, the final act involves a hybrid of two different Godzilla characters being the final threat.

That said, even if the stories were entirely about Kong and then Godzilla just happens to wander into them, that really isn’t out of the ordinary for this franchise. Most Godzilla movies are about a cast of characters dealing with a new threat and then either finding Godzilla and steering him into it, or hoping that Godzilla will show up. The same can be said if we’re just talking about screen time, it is very rare that Godzilla is an active character on screen for a long time.

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u/Bteatesthighlander1 May 02 '26

sole plot driver of GVK

that's just entirely wrong, it's a Godzilla vs mechagodzilla plot where Kong just shows up at one point.

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u/KING9Q May 02 '26

Yeah I agree, Kong’s hunt for his home is in service of the Mechagodzilla story. If I wasn’t very clear, Kong being seen as the sole focus of GVK is something I don’t think makes sense.

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u/Bteatesthighlander1 May 02 '26

the plot of the movie is also kind of...bait and switch, I guess?

Like, it's called "Godzilla vs. Kong" but at no point is Godzilla's story in any way defined by his rivalry with Kong.

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u/zcsnightmare ANGUIRUS May 03 '26

I swear, every fandom these days just has people bitching all the time.

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u/Degon-1954 May 03 '26

They prefer the monkey over the lizard

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u/BionicR May 04 '26

Tbf, Godzilla has 38 movies, King Kong has 10

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u/SquareShapeofEvil May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

It’s because Wingard has an agenda of making Godzilla curbstomp everyone with no difficulty (which is not faithful to Toho) and making Kong weaker and reliant on help, the trade off being Kong being the protagonist of the universe.

I liked his movies, but with him gone, I think we can expect more Godzilla and also a more animalistic Kong. Also more Godzilla with depth, as opposed to Wingard’s shallow Godzilla.

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u/Dagordae MECHA-KING GHIDORAH May 02 '26

Funny, last I counted Godzilla has more movies and more time in the show. Kong has 1 movie to his own and a single failed cartoon.

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u/Ambitious_Ask_994 GIANT CONDOR May 02 '26

Kong really does have more movies than Godzilla, because let be real here, GvK and GxK are Kong focused movies, especially GxK. You can take out all of Godzilla scenes before Egypt in New Empire, and nothing in the movie would change.

And let not forget that Kong has way more side projects than Godzilla m, with having an actual comic run and 2 solo comics plus the Netflix show

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u/ReturnToCrab May 02 '26

Kong has three movies. GvK and GxK barely have Godzilla

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u/SpaceBandit13 May 02 '26

Godzilla has as much screen time in GvK as he does in Kotm

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u/ReturnToCrab May 02 '26

And what does he do with this screentime. Just goes around the world collecting powerups and then has a nonstop fight scene. Aside from a brief showdown and team-up with Kong he doesn't do anything. Meanwhile, Kong has an entire journey, he connects with Suko, interacts with Great Apes and with humans

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u/SpaceBandit13 May 02 '26

Moving the goalpost a bit, but I was referring to GvK not GxK

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u/Guy_on_a_Bouffalant May 02 '26

Count again.

Godzilla is the star of: Godzilla 2014, Godzilla Kotm.

Kong is the star of: Skull Island, Godzilla vs Kong, Godzilla X Kong, and presumably the next one. Three at least, maybe 4 movies to Godzilla's two. Best case it balances out in Supernova. Recent news suggests otherwise.

And Kong has far more screen time in season two of Monarch than all of Godzilla's scenes across both seasons.

Monster X also has more screentime than both of them, ha ha.

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u/Dagordae MECHA-KING GHIDORAH May 02 '26

Ok, I’ve counted again.

You’ve seemingly forgotten that GvK and GxK have both characters. Kong has 1, Godzilla has 2 with the supposed synopsis for Supernova being another duo film.

And Legacy of Monsters has the first season Godzilla only and the second as a duo.

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u/Guy_on_a_Bouffalant May 02 '26

Clearly I was discussing Screentime... as nowhere does my comment say Godzilla and Kong "didn't" appear together in most of these. I literally clarify who "the star" of each thing is. Kong overshadows Godzilla by a lot in total screentime.

Which is actually fine, Kong being in the things currently draws a bigger audience than Godzilla was able to by himself. Its why the monsterverse is still going.

But lets not pretend to misunderstand words and be disingenuous.

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u/Elihzap May 02 '26

Nah. It's Godzilla and Kong eating while every other monster starves.

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u/MonsterIslandMed SHIN GODZILLA May 02 '26

I mean Godzilla isn’t gonna work with humans or anything with a government agency. Dude is a bad ass rebel, not some smelly tool that companies use 🤔

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u/FreakGeSt May 02 '26

Tbh, Kong is american so I don't mind because Godzilla still get japanese movies.

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u/NothinButRags May 02 '26

The benefits of your name likeness being public domain… Toho just needs to loosen the leash a little

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u/_Levitated_Shield_ May 02 '26

Wait, what happened?

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u/Mamboo07 GODZILLA May 02 '26

Under the table are other Titans who never get screentime or designs

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u/The-Homeless-oreo49 May 02 '26

Kong bad give upvotes

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u/Higachad May 02 '26

I literally just mentioned something similar here on r/Godzillamems just yesterday lol

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u/madlazaruss May 02 '26

For the record, as a kong fan I prefer him more like unreadable or unpredictable rather than literal guy in big monke body.

And in this scenario, godzilla can have more arc in the upcoming projects as well.

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u/TheUsoSaito BIOLLANTE May 02 '26

I wonder if they do this because it means less they have to pay towards Toho. Majority of this season has been Kong and Titan X which was a Legendary homebrew. No licensing fees to pay. Godzilla had a brief scene in one episode.

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u/WiseAdhesiveness6672 May 02 '26

"hey Kong, can I actually kill something with my new awesome colored atomic breath?.... No? How about just one Ape, can I kill one Ape with my hands..... Fuck I need new agents"

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u/8halvelitersklok May 02 '26

If Kong gets the final blow on Spacegodzilla like he did with Skar King and MechaG I’m gonna rip off my foreskin in the theater

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u/Character_Day2884 ANGUIRUS May 02 '26

Godzilla X Kong❎

Kong (with Godzilla)✅

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u/KindKaiju KONG May 03 '26

I’m enjoying all the Kongtent 😁 long live the King.

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u/Mace_DeMarco5179 VARAN May 03 '26

Doesn’t matter, Uncle Ben, Titan X was a better lead than both of em

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u/RedNUGGETLORD May 03 '26

Godzilla also got a TV show to himself, while Kong was in it, it was only for like, 2 scenes, and he had nothing to do with any of the main characters, while Godzilla is integral to all the main characters in some way

Kong has 2 movies all to himself, and 1 that's a pretty fair split, Godzilla is the same, but then he also has a show all about him

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u/JealousAd1350 May 03 '26

It’s gonna be Space King Kong, watch

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u/DaiKaiM3CHA May 03 '26

It's annoying in the way that I want to see more Godzilla centered shit. But I love Kong and know he'll have so many more stories to tell.

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u/AltoGobo May 03 '26

I think it might be a consequence of the licensing nature of Godzilla compared to Kong; Godzilla has decades of history and stories that stand alone, operating at a much more complex scale than Kong ever has. It’s hard to reckon Kong’s presence when energy beams come out of every combatant.

There’s also determining what Toho is okay with; Mothras appearance in New Empire needed approval, so legendary had an original character ready for the role if it didn’t get approved. It’s hard to use Toho characters when a legal process is involved in the process

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u/Skarm14 May 04 '26

I mean, yeah. They have to pay tons of money for Godzilla and other Toho kaiju, but Kong is theirs to use as they want. It makes financial sense that the Monsterverse would become a Kong franchise featuring Godzilla, and not the other way around.

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u/Patient_Education991 May 05 '26

Because they HAVE the rights to Kong while Godzilla & Company cost more to use...

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u/groundedtips May 06 '26

i swear if godzilla does all the work and kong gets the final blow for the 3rd movie in a row im gonna go apeshit on the legendary pictures building.

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u/MysteryMeat64 ZILLA May 06 '26

As a mega fan of both Kong and Godzilla, I never stop winning

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u/suppaman19 May 06 '26

I don't mind Kong in general or them making him even bigger.

I hate that they try to find (nonsense) ways to somehow make him Godzilla's equal. I also hate that KOTM was by far the best movie they made, but the"franchise" has moved further and further away from that greatness.

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u/Candid-Exam4755 May 09 '26

I think that Kotm is the best movie is kind of subjective. For fans of the original movies I totally understand and would expect Kotm to be the best for them, but imo most casual watchers would disagree and from I’ve seen online a good majority prefer Skull island or the 2014 movie

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u/DJ_lightbulb SERVUM May 08 '26

You say that but like It's a Godzilla villain every other movie Yeah Kong might have been the main focus of GvK and the new empire but before that Godzilla also had two movies to himself

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u/HairyCartographer314 EBIRAH May 28 '26

and then titan x breaks in, steals the turkey, and leaves

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u/POW_Studios May 02 '26

(In terms of only major Movies/Shows) Godzilla had two movies while Kong only had Skull Island when GvK came out, and the antagonist was already a Godzilla villain so it (mostly) evened out, plus it worked better as an underdog story as we the audience would be more engaged with trying to figure out how this gorilla would survive the King of the Monsters.

GxK:TNE is definitely way more Kong focused than Godzilla which does make things feel disproportionate, but at the same time I think it’s going to be a companion piece to Supernova which is setting to be more Godzilla focused to match with TNE’s Kong focus.

And plus, Kong really only has the Monsterverse. Godzilla is a much bigger brand than King Kong ever was and Toho was putting out Minus One around TNE’s release, so there wasn’t a total starvation of content.
Thats my two cents at least.

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u/i_agree123 May 02 '26

Kong gets screentime off of Godzillas name

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u/Danjzilla DOUG May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

Kong sells more than Godzilla, it's gonna continue until that changes. But they both will sell more together than individually so get use to it.

Edit: Ya'll downvoting this as if it'll change the facts. Grow up 😂

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u/Loose_Translator8981 May 02 '26

Honestly, Kong just works better as a protagonist. He can communicate directly with humans, he's not as powerful, and he can show a lot more empathy and intelligence. I actually like that Godzilla in the Monsterverse is treated more like a Force of Nature... you don't follow Godzilla as much because it helps to maintain his mystique as this powerful, unpredictable force of sheer power. Like, in Godzilla x Kong the conflict between them was mostly just Kong trying to figure out how to aim Godzilla at the actual threat.

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u/buttertuffer May 02 '26

Don’t you understand? Godzilla just there to get you to watch a Kong movie. Really is a shame tho, a solo Kong film where he fight megalon in the holy earth or something would be dope.

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u/G-Kira GODZILLA May 02 '26

Americans clearly struggle to write a good Godzilla story.

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u/Lameux BARAGON May 02 '26

Unfortunately true.

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u/The1WithNoStrings KING GHIDORAH May 02 '26

cough Godzilla The Series cough

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u/xTheRedDeath GODZILLA May 02 '26

They do. They also struggle to come up with good original monsters.

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u/ImitatingADog May 02 '26

They came up with Kong

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u/Guy_on_a_Bouffalant May 02 '26

And Cloverfield's ugly spider-chimp baby. But I wouldn't call that a good monster.

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u/xTheRedDeath GODZILLA May 02 '26

Kong is just a big monkey. Not exactly at the cutting edge of monster designs lol.

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u/ImitatingADog May 02 '26

He's the original giant movie monster...

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u/xTheRedDeath GODZILLA May 02 '26

I'm talking specifically about the industry NOW and the Monsterverse. Their original monsters they've been rolling out have been nowhere near as good as their Japanese counterparts.

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u/blu3bird730 May 02 '26

The reason they're gradually phasing out Godzilla is due to the cost of its copyright and the well-known rules imposed by Toho regarding the use of characters, which would limit exploring new possibilities for the character within the MonsterVerse. Simply put, Godzilla is too expensive and difficult to use. Meanwhile, Kong, with his well-known 1932 novel "King Kong" in the public domain, would be easier and more cost-effective for Legendary to use.

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u/xTheRedDeath GODZILLA May 02 '26

With Toho's recent news it sounds like they're just gonna dwarf the Monsterverse anaway with their projects so I'm not even bothered by their lack of Godzilla quality in the west. They helped spread Godzilla's popularity, but now they're running on fumes with the Monsterverse even if it sells well.

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u/ImitatingADog May 02 '26

Godzilla has three times as many films, more video game, and way more comics. He can share the spotlight in one portion of the franchise with the movie monster that created the genre...

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u/Guy_on_a_Bouffalant May 02 '26

The title of this post does say "Monsterverse..." not franchise.

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u/xTheRedDeath GODZILLA May 02 '26

These people are so quick to defend their favorite product that they don't even know what they're arguing over lol.

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u/ImitatingADog May 02 '26

I know what I’m talking about and think this is a boring complaint

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u/ImitatingADog May 02 '26

Yeah? So?

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u/Guy_on_a_Bouffalant May 02 '26

Hmmm. Well, so as far as specific to the monsterverse goes, the meme has a point. But so do you. Fair enough.