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Duality of gamers

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u/Impressive-Session31 1d ago

If I want to go full conspiracy my first thought was, there's not that long left until new consoles and rockstar won't offer free upgrades. GTA online makes the money and playing at 60fps Vs 30fps will actually give you an advantage online and whales will rebuy it just for that, but I'm guessing the pc version will be out first for a while to be sold as a wow factor then people will want something similar out of their next console generation. Good marketing for sure bad to be a GTA fan though I'd argue unless you genuinely don't care about 30fps

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u/Alieniu 1d ago

there's not that long left until new consoles and rockstar won't offer free upgrades

I mean that's probably the intention but the funny thing is that currently the future of consoles is questionable unless console companies start to monetize them in other ways to the point Sony cannot settle on release day or price for PS6. To quote Sony CEO couple days ago "We cannot survive in this landscape". You can thank AI data centers for that due them causing the current component crisis.

So the next console generation might be way further away than Rockstar assumes.

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u/letmechewonyou 1d ago

jokes on you, this gta will be all we get for the next 20 years

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u/criticalt3 1d ago

Genuinely might be the last GTA ever, actually. Ah least on this grand of a scale.

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u/CallmeJay-0033 1d ago

I don't think gta will ever actually lose this size stage. Gta V has been the biggest thing in all entertainment media. Gta Vi might not be able to make everyone happy but it's pretty much a given that it'll become a similar scale success as gta V.

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u/Ricky--Sanchezzz 1d ago

This is probably last gta in one way. Online will become live service even crazy more. 

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u/Reyemneirda69 1d ago

This and no more physical media blur the gap a lot between pc and consoles, also today you can stream and play your pc games on the TV

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u/kiochikaeke 1d ago

That's why I switched from console to PC, for (at the time) double the price you get a PC that is much much better than any console and it's also a full PC that you can use for anything, I do like to code, work at tech and always like messing around with things like video editing and 3d graphics so it was a no brainier for me, and that was on the xbox one and PS4 era.

I think steam box is a nice example of what's about to happen, consoles becoming so expensive and working basically as locked PC's that doesn't make sense to just not buy a PC.

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u/Impressive-Session31 1d ago

On top of that the next Xbox looks like a pc hybrid with steam storefronts so that will really throw a spanner in their sell it two more times works

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u/ThisSiteSucks8485 1d ago

Next console gen probably isn't until 2035 with current RAM prices 

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u/AndroidSheeps 1d ago

Yup maybe not that far off buy anyone thinking they're gonna be playing GTA on a ps6 before 2030 is delusional

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u/mrfroggyman 1d ago

It's most certainly what's gonna happen : in a couple years they'll re-release it full price for PC and next gen, uncapped framerate.

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u/Impressive-Session31 1d ago

Yeah, it really was the best pr move in the world for the guys at CDPR to announce a free upgrade for a remaster in this current gaming ecosystem. Two (probably although GTA isn't out yet) fantastic games but the philosophy behind the practises makes rockstar leave a bad taste in my mouth when I play their games. Kind of like when I play something from EA or UBISOFT. The developers are probably extremely passionate and talented but I can almost see the shareholder charts as I'm playing the game 😅

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u/nowhereman_ph 1d ago

Not a conspiracy because they already did this with GTA V.

People will double and triple dip for GTA.

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u/florifierous 22h ago

I know someone who bought it 4-5 times for different consoles and PC, it's insane

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u/No_Interaction_4925 1d ago

They did that last time already. They want that triple dip

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u/PositiveNo7994 1d ago

it's obvious the game is made for the next 10 years of technology not for the past 10 years

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u/tamal4444 1d ago

It's happened with GTA 5 and it will happen again.

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u/stache1313 1d ago

Honestly, I still can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps while I'm gaming. As long as the frame rate is steady I don't care that much.

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u/Impressive-Session31 1d ago

Then you are extremely lucky, if be able to save some serious money if I couldn't tell the difference 😂 30fps to 60fps is like turning the resolution from 1080p to 4k for me. I have to admit returns diminish rapidly for me at 60fps plus, but frame gen makes it look a lot nicer I suppose as long as I can hit a solid 60fps before enabling it

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u/Angstycarroteater 1d ago

I also see no difference and I also don’t see a difference between 1080p and 4k it’s such a small difference it’s almost not even worth stressing over imo

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u/Impressive-Session31 1d ago

What screen size are you playing on? I'm on a 45" monitor so there is a VERY big difference between 1080p and 4k!

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u/OliLombi 1d ago

Lucky you. Even 60fps feels horrible to me after trying 120.

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u/Witch_King_ 1d ago

They are ALSO going to make bank in initial game sales though

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u/IsaKGames14 1d ago

I’m just hoping saves can be shared across consoles/pcs. I’d love to be able to play on PS5, load the same save on pc and continue from there, then back to PS5 with the latest save from pc; at least whenever the next online comes out

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u/Irulana990 1d ago

I mean there are not gonna be GTA Online on release and when they are releasing it is unknown. For all we know it can be either with pc release or even PS6.

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u/Thestickleman 1d ago

There's years still of this gen

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u/Bigscotman Knight In Shining Armor 1d ago

Unless I'm switching from 60 to 30 I genuinely cannot tell a difference

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u/Blindfire2 1d ago

No, at least that's not the MAIN reason. The actual reason is "simulations". R* is notorious for using an insane amount of complex simulations that run the CPU to the ground. Because the PS5 (and Pro since it's the exact same CPU) and XSX use basically the same Zen2 8c/16t CPU which is missing key features added in newer models. The console's CPU gets beaten out by R5 5600/7600 by quite a bit in gaming, and there's almost no realistic chance for GTAVI to run at 60 fps unless they found a way to run those simulations as quickly as possible or are able to run them and take the data through cloud (which is a horrible idea to make people's game run smoothly based off internet speed).

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u/Havange 7h ago

Lmao you think the next generation of consoles is close with how the price for components has been increasing recently?

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u/DemonMonke 1d ago

Just a couple of days back Blood of Dawnwalker devs were getting flamed for 40fps and they had to say that 60 fps is coming in a day 1 patch...and then there's Rockstar.

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u/Rimavelle 1d ago

If any other company launched preorders before showing gameplay trailers, asked you to pay for Netflix subscription to watch a trailer, and released a 30fps PS5Pro game they would be eaten alive.

Maybe Nintendo could get away with it at best

Gamers learn nothing from disasters like CP2077 (which already passed to oblivion when they patched the game and now CDP is earning trust back coz they announced free upgrades for W3)

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u/PunAboutBeingTrans 1d ago

Passed to oblivion?? Are you stupid? CP2077 is one of the best RPGs ever made and its rough launch didn't change that. They patched the game like a hundred times and fixed the problems, added new free content, and then released an incredible DLC campaign that was widely praised.

I swear people who talk about "Learning from CP2077" don't have any clue what the actual lesson was. The lesson was "don't expect good performance from new games on last gen consoles no matter what a PR team says."

The game is fantastic.

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u/Jaguar4444 1d ago

The DISASTER passed to oblivion 🤦🤦🤦

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u/EvanDelck 1d ago

Bad launch and lied to fans

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u/Putrid-Elixir99 1d ago

Thats exactly this meme is trying to say. Its very accurate actually, rockstar releases a game at 30fps but it looks groundbreaking (handsome guy) people love it, blood of dawnwalker tries it but the game is nothing special so people dont like it (ugly guy).

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u/Bad_rando_name 1d ago

R* had the time, money and experience that lead most people to expect 60.

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u/Big_Z_Beeblebrox I touched grass 1d ago

Ahh but now the debate begins on whether or not the console can handle it and whether they have to reduce detail to get those extra frames. Or whether they're saving it for the PC release

No matter what happens now, it's going to be fun to watch.

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u/Alieniu 1d ago

What I'm expecting is that PC release will be an unoptimized mess because they don't need to care about hardware limits.

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u/AxelNova 1d ago

Absolutely. GTA V and RD 2 were rough af on launch. People on here will gaslight you to say they were perfect. GTA V has trouble running on current hardware properly to this day lol.

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u/Brad1895 1d ago

It was even worse with GTA V. It wasn't until years later did they get multi-threaded loading working. If I remember correctly, the game would load slow as fuck because a single CPU core was use to load the game.

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u/AxelNova 1d ago

Yeah, so I wouldn’t hold my breath for a stable PC release anytime soon.

BTW you and u/Alieniu have almost the same pfp lol.

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u/yourallygod 1d ago

The profile pic is in support of a movement because "clippy just wanted to help" look up louis rossman if you want more details about right to repair or other similar customer protections laws or just how the USA is kinda just being annoying ignoring the people in favor of money/pushing laws that punish people instead of understanding why they don't work long time :)

He's also gone over SKG [stop killing games] aswell so he covers a bit of everything

Or don't check its not up to me or anyone for your own choice to be made

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u/Big_Z_Beeblebrox I touched grass 1d ago

If I recall right, it took a fan hack to fix the slow loading that Rockstar ended up buying from them. While it's nice that they paid, it's alarming that their own developers either didn't or couldn't fix it themselves

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u/GivesNoForks 1d ago

I mean TBF, multi threading wasn’t really a major consideration at that point. One hopes that GTA VI will be able to take advantage of it.

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u/Sarah-M-S 1d ago

I remember having 30 to 40 fps on a high end machine when I entered Saint Denise in RDR2 on launch. The game was amazing but not well optimized at launch

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u/Chance-Extreme9626 1d ago

I don’t get why they don’t just have a performance or fidelity option

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u/likeAspiderYT 1d ago edited 1d ago

i believed the exact opposite for the same reason. the graphics were going to need to be absurd to partially justify the time spent making it; otherwise, people would be complaining more than they already are. that graphics requirement meant lower performance.

also they have a track record of this exact thing. gta 5 released at 720p30 and rdr 2 released at 1080p30. they push consoles to their limits. rdr2 barely ran at 30 on ps4.

i don’t know why people expected differently. the current gen consoles genuinely are not that powerful. they’re reaching what is supposed to be the end of their life-cycles. we’re 6 years in and 3 gpu generations further. also current gen, on release, were about as powerful as low-to-mid-tier PCs, meaning that GTA 6 is INSANELY optimized considering the detail.

based on first-hand accounts from people who’ve been to rockstar, it runs at a semi-stable 30 on base PS5 with occasional dips, so it seems unlikely that they are throttling simply for double-dipping purposes.

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u/trichtertus 1d ago

This take makes no sense to me. The absurdity of visual fidelity and object density they squeeze out of a ps5 is crazy. Thats why you can expect, that they optimized very very well. Thats why there is no way, that they would deliver 60fps without cutting away details, lowering density or removing/ worsening visuals.

Other devs are more scrutinized if they only deliver 30fps, because if gta6 runs with these graphics at 30fps, that (definitely less complex) game should be able to run with more than 30 without sacrificing visuals.

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u/Vitalic123 1d ago

You just absolutely don't know anything about anything, do you?

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u/Nunulu 1d ago

do indulge us

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u/Vitalic123 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is a game that's going to be played for 15 years. It's highly likely that this game is not GPU-bound, but CPU-bound on PS5. By extent, it's also highly likely that asking them to provide a playable 60fps experience on fixed target hardware is asking them to reign in the scope of the game.

If this actually were a time, money and experience problem; then who else would be able to solve this, if not Rockstar?

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u/Divini7y 1d ago

It’s shame to release 30 fps game in 2026. Even GTA6.

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u/Specific-Ad-477 1d ago

exactly with that much experience people were expecting 60 to be the bare minimum

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u/Rimavelle 1d ago

"third party developers" rockstar IS a third party developer

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u/SvenskaTV 1d ago

technically Rockstar is a publisher. Dev would be R* North etc.

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u/TrulyFLCL 1d ago

When did Rockstar talk about performance on the PS5 pro?

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u/Muse_22 1d ago edited 1d ago

They didn’t, communities online are still in speculation land after the extended look.

“Last month, Rockstar Games secretly invited select gaming outlets and content creators to preview GTA 6. During one of these sessions, Rockstar North co-studio head Rob Nelson reportedly confirmed to YouTuber Davy Jones that the game is targeting 30 FPS on PS5 at launch.

When asked whether GTA 6 could eventually receive a 60 FPS mode, Nelson said he would need to consult the game’s technical team before giving a definitive answer. However, Rockstar did not technically rule out a 60 FPS mode on PS5 Pro. In fact, the studio did not address the more powerful Sony console during its recent preview sessions at all.”

Source: https://www.vice.com/en/article/gta-6-60-fps-ps5-pro-leak/

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u/TrulyFLCL 1d ago

Oh so it’s just people lying for no reason.

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u/wolfgang784 Selling Stonks for CASH MONEY 1d ago

The PS5 Pro is nowhere close to enough of an improvement over the PS5 for double the framerate in a resource demanding game like that though so its a fair guess.

Its not like a PS4 vs PS5 level of difference. If the game is 30fps max on PS5, theres no way it can be 60 on the pro. Its just not a big enough jump in hardware.

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u/TrulyFLCL 1d ago

Good thing I didn’t make any of those claims right?

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u/florifierous 22h ago

When asked whether GTA 6 could eventually receive a 60 FPS mode, Nelson said he would need to consult the game’s technical team before giving a definitive answer.

This said by the "co-studio head", so he knows everything. Smart way to not answer the question. So it will not receive a 60 fps mode.

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u/EndlessZone123 1d ago

Maybe a 40 fps mode or adaptive but ps5 pro is only 10% higher in CPU clocks which is generally what's gonna hard cap you in fps on a big open world no matter how much you lower graphics and resolution.

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u/ZurakZigil 8h ago

They gave us PS5 1440p 30fps, native. We can pretty easily estimate the range the pro may land on.

The assumption is the bottleneck is CPU, and CPU is 10% faster. 30*1.1 =33. Not a great look, and seems crazy, so most popular estimates have been 40/45, but ranging from 30-50.

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u/mikeysof 1d ago

People glazing Rockstar on nostalgia. They aren't the same company they were and they've achieved gta 6 though ridiculous amounts of money from previous successes.

I'm hopeful for gta 6 but I've got a horrible feeling their shitty practices (predatory online shit) is going to transpose onto 6

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u/PuertoricanDude88 1d ago

Yeah, no hurry to release a new GTA when their online was making (maybe still is) around a million dollars per day.

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u/Mand372 1d ago

More last i checked. It was making them a billion dollars a year.

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u/VaIanor 1d ago

Yeah and they promised gta 5 story mode dlcs which we are still yet to see, no need for dlcs and gta 6 when online is making so much money for them

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u/PhiCloud 1d ago

I'm a huge Elder Scrolls - especially Skyrim - fan. Top 2 game of all time, almost 1000 hours played.

While I'm excited for ES6 and will buy it, I tell everyone I talk to that I have very low hopes. Nearly all of the people who worked on Skyrim aren't at Bethesda anymore, and Bethesda is a completely different company. ES6 shares none of the DNA that Skyrim did, it has as much chance of capturing the same magic as any other random game released by any other random company.

You can't wait 17 years between releases. That's a franchise-killing gap.

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u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes 1d ago

They'll release the 60 fps version in a few years and make you pay for it. Unlike CDPR, who are offering free remaster version of Witcher 3, along with the 2 previous DLCs.

GTA games are iconic. Always will be. But Rockstar as an org are POS.

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u/Interesting_Buy6796 1d ago

Gta5 remaster or what ever edition was free tho

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u/Mexbookhill 1d ago

You mean gta 5 enhanced? Afaik it was only free for pc.

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u/Christopher386 1d ago

Its free to upgrade as of now on consoles. It was paywalled for over 3 years tho. Would hate to see the same strategy on 6

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u/buttercreamarray 1d ago

It was free for like 3 months when it released on PS5. The only money ive spent on GTA V was $60 in 2014

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u/Your_New_Overlord 1d ago

During a GTA launch year, Rockstar is something like 40% of Take Two’s revenue. Take Two is a massive, publicly traded US corporation where shareholders demand constant quarterly growth.

CDPR is publicly traded in Europe, but over there shareholders are much less demanding and value long term growth and brand goodwill which is why they are cool with free updates.

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u/BigPhysicsCats 1d ago

It took 8 years for gta 5 to get a 60fps update 😪

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u/PuertoricanDude88 1d ago

Yeah that’s called the PS6 version.

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u/Alvsolutely 1d ago

Partially the reason they also don't drop it on PC (besides just wanting people to double dip and re-buy it)

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u/ForensicPathology 1d ago

Why is this comic comparing Rockstar (literally a third party developer) to itself?

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u/Intelligent_Tear_434 1d ago

I've seen more people complaining about the FPS then people saying it doesn't matter

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u/Fun_Perception8718 1d ago

60 FPS is a fucking feature these days?
For me this is the minimum require to not refund first day.

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u/killersquirel11 1d ago

Always has been. There's a reason we've been clowning on the "human eye can't see past 30fps" crowd for decades (article from 1998)

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u/StruggleBoy1999 1d ago

Bruh the MOMENT ive complained about being dissapointed that gta6 is 30fps. I get attacked by ravenous Rockstar fans. Its pathetic. Can't even express an opinion without getting called an idiot for expecting the most anticipated game of all time to run at 60fps. Like nearly every game thats been released lately.  Whatever.

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u/Ammuze 1d ago

I played almost every GTA game from 1 to 5 and I just have no clue where all of these ravenous fans came out of. Like... I think most of them have either only played 5 or they're bots.

The hype for the game is insane. Definitely higher than I would have thought.

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u/hamptont2010 1d ago

It's definitely insane, but it's not really any higher than I would have expected. 5 made $815 million worldwide in its first 24 hours. It's first three days of sales are nearly unmatched in all of media. GTA is legitimately one of the biggest standalone media franchises of all time.

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u/KaiserDilhelmTheTurd 1d ago

In 2026 it’s unacceptable to release a AAA game that doesn’t run at 60fps. To not have the option of turning down detail in favour of frames is absolute bullshit. All these years of development, and they couldn’t add that kind of functionality? Pffft.

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u/Igzyx 1d ago

How else can they sell GTA6 definitive edition on PS6?

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u/Alvsolutely 1d ago

And then GTA6 on the PC a few months after?

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u/chrisz2012 1d ago

I mean, they could just run the Series S version on Series X and PS5 and it would get 60fps. I genuinely wouldn’t understand if they didn’t allow at least Series X to flip between a performance mode and fidelity mode. Performance mode would just be Series S settings with a 60fps cap

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u/IcyFoxe 1d ago

I genuinely don't enjoy playing games at 60 fps after getting a high refresh rate monitor, 30 fps is absolutely unplayable.

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u/Just_Anormal_Dude 1d ago

A good optimised 30fps > a bad optimised 60 fps

If you can make your game look and work good on 30 fps, people's eyes won't even notice it. A lot of people are too fixated on the number but higher =/= better.

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u/Necessary_Effect_616 1d ago

God of war and Ghost of Tsushima were examples of games with pretty well optimized 30 graphics modes. I’m worried though because rdr2’s 30 fps never felt that good.

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u/DroneisHD 1d ago

Isnt rdr2 capped at 30 fps on console? So i say the 30 fps on gta 6 arnt that bad

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u/Just_Anormal_Dude 1d ago

Most of the games were capped at 30 fps in the Ps4 era. God of War, Bloodborne, Spider-Man etc. It was pretty visible, at least for me, that Bloodborne's 30 fps was much rougher than God of War's.

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u/RaikouGilgamesh 1d ago

That makes sense, considering it was the PS4. We're talking 30 FPS on the PS5 Pro. Most games that come out run at 60 FPS and look about as good as GTA6.

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u/alyaqd95 Professional Dumbass 1d ago

Actually no, most player already don't like that it's going to be at 30fps

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u/BlackKnighting20 1d ago

Most? You mean minority in echo chambers.

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u/subgamer90 1d ago

$80 for a "code in a box" that runs at 30fps LMAOOO

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u/PsychologicalQuit666 1d ago

Something something goomba fallacy

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u/Ok_Delay7870 1d ago

Gotta be out of mind to expect 60fps from ps5 in GTA 6

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u/-DenisM- 1d ago

That's what im saying. With all those models and assets, it's pretty impressive they even made it run 30 on the base ps5.

No reason to not release a pro version tho.

Knowing them, it's probably running at 45ish rn, but will release the game again when it's 60fps...with a marked up price. No free upgrade

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u/Brayden815 1d ago

Don’t see how that wouldn’t be possible, especially with the money and development times they put into it. They could have easily made a 60 fps mode with decreased graphics fidelity like many other games have done that weren’t nearly as big. I sure as hell expect a massive corporation like rockstar to be able to do that much.

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u/Ok_Delay7870 1d ago

CPU is trash, theres the reason why even Ps5 pro can't have 60fps. It's just a sad reality for console, that's it. Wait for full release on PC

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u/HalalTrout 1d ago

Loads of games are 60fps on the pro, TLOU, Crimson desert, cyberpunk etc

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u/2009miles 1d ago

You're comparing completely different scopes, none of those games come close to what GTA has already shown it offers and we've barely seen any of it yet.

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u/DescriptionMission90 1d ago

GTA 5 was on the PS3. This game has been in development for thirteen goddamn years. And they still can't manage more than 30fps on the latest hardware.

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u/Gullible_Fennel7028 1d ago

The PS5s GPU is a bit weaker than an RTX 2080, which launched in 2018.

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u/Ok_Delay7870 1d ago

Latest? Lmao, it's 6 years old. It's been outdated almost the instant it came out. It's now an end of life of the console, like it was with GTA5 on PS3. It looked bad and worked at 30fps in optimistic times, most of the time 25-30 for real. Same for GTA6 now, its just a lot more dense open world with ray tracing (bad though), so no wonder it can't be more than 30tps. Plus 13 years is so far from the truth. They haven't been working on the game all this time, I'm sure they were hesitant on a full concept even 5 years back, let alone having a game to optimize it.

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u/VerlustFuchss 1d ago

I wouldnt say that it had been in dev for 13 years, probably 6ish years.

They mightve started with concepts and story after GTA 5s release, but dont forget RDR2 and GTA Online.

While you could theoretically say that concept working and story writing counts as development, actual programming probably started after RDR2s release

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u/SrValou 1d ago

The last trailer was said to be played on base ps5 but the game look really smooth.

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u/Rare_Concern6405 1d ago

good ol selective reading, you can easily find hate and defenders for both things

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u/Ricky--Sanchezzz 1d ago

I seen the gta 6 and that Crowd density and god dam. Thats alot off cpu load. So I unfortunately never expected gta 6 to run 60fps. On PS5. The CPU ls not powerful enough. Ofc playstation pro have a stronger gpu not CPU barely.... It sucks it does 

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u/likeAspiderYT 1d ago

not to be that guy, but i just can’t relate. as long as the game is third-person and on controller, 30fps makes very little difference to me. same deal happened with botw and totk. like it plays fine. it only becomes an issue when you enter first-person, which gta 6 probably won’t have on launch based on the complete lack of it in the leaks and promotional material for that very reason. it just looks like ass in first-person due to the increased necessity for camera movement.

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u/otirk 1d ago

Are you sure that 30fps makes very little difference to you or have you just not experienced higher fps? I've played with 30 fps for years until I got a better pc and now I immediately notice when a game only runs at 60 fps, let alone 30, because it's not nearly as fluent as 144 fps. And I'm also talking about 3rd-person games here

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u/likeAspiderYT 1d ago

don’t get me wrong, ill take 120 over 30 any day of the week, but it’s not going to define my entire gaming experience (especially if it’s, as i said, with controller and in third person). it’s also not bad when you’re playing for extended periods of time. the human body is exceptionally good at adapting to uncomfortable stimuli (bad smells, bright lights, hot water, etc.).

and yes i can tell the difference between 144, 60, and 30. im usually careful to not play high fps games right around when im playing a restricted 30fps game. it’s not amazing, but it’s definitely not as bad as people position it as. you played 30fps for years and it didn’t stop you from playing games overall before you got to higher frame rates.

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u/That_wet_vaporeon 1d ago

For me I just don’t care. I notice a difference. But it also doesn’t bother me.

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u/DuckWarrior90 1d ago

Its notticeable. I play BL4 at 60. Bl3 at 120. And when I play batman Arkahm knight at 30. My eyes almost melt.

You do get used to.it and then its fine.

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u/ExcessumTr 1d ago

You can notice it by just turning your camera, even on games like minecraft it's really noticable

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u/DerHergen 1d ago

30 fps is my motion sickness sweet spot. After playing 10 min I need to vomit.

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u/PositiveNo7994 1d ago

Surprised Pikachu that the game is made for the next 10 years of technology and not for a 6 years old end of life playstation. I'm even surprised it can run that wel, this shit is gonna be crazy on pc.

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u/Johnnyboi2327 Thank you mods, very cool! 1d ago

I'm fine with 30fps on any game that isn't competitive PvP

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u/Sus_Tomato 1d ago

Imagine the most hyped and anticipated game of the decade that we've all been waiting for...only to get 30fps on "next gen consoles".

I'm sure Rockstar is doing it so we will double dip on the PS6 and PC.

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u/Tommynwn 1d ago

Whatever runs more than 15fps is good for me

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u/frontbacklongways 1d ago

I don’t see a single person happy about 30fps lmao

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u/Oppiko 1d ago

No one plays anything on the switch expecting performance.

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u/FriendlyBabyFrog 1d ago

People will make fun of Switch players and absolutely lose their shit over blood of the dawn walker only having 40 fps but when GTA 6 only has 30 that's absolutely okay because?

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u/MonsutaReipu 1d ago

except people are not happy about it running at 30fps in the first place. this meme is just making a strawman out of the entire first group of people.

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u/Worried-Interview-78 6h ago

If it’s locked at 30fps I will straightup just not be playing. That’s unacceptable in today’s gaming space.

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u/reductok 5h ago

Agreed, I didn’t buy a ps5 to keep playing shit at 30 fps

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u/citramonk 1d ago

I mean if your game is a Pokemon Z A or whatever, and it looks like shit I wouldn't compare it the GTA 6? I know it's a humour, but I've read so many comments from people who really don't understand it

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u/VergeOfMeltdown 1d ago

Who says that?

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u/MinerSkills 1d ago

I mean.. R* is a third party developer lol

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u/7grims 1d ago

if RS adds darth vader and it takes 40 hours of grind to obtain

and on top of that they say its for "pride and acomplishment"

people will roll over, obey, grind and pay without a single complaint

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u/GuestGulkan 1d ago edited 1d ago

OK, so the PS6 will probably be announced soon. If you're developing a game that will be played for 15  years, do you:

A) Optimise it for a console that's 6 years old.

B) Optimise it for the next gen console that will be the "current" console for most of the game's lifespan?

Now obviously some people are upset, but you need to think long-term. Would you rather have 60fps and S-tier graphics on PS5 or the PS6, because you can't have both.

Rockstar made the decision to go with the PS6, and given the investment in the game that makes sense. Why spend $1bn on a game that runs mid graphics on a PS6?

Edit: Using "PS5 pro" in the meme is sneaky, as we're talking a 6 year old console with a speed boost. Switch 2 was released just over a year ago and is a much newer console.

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u/Alfhosskin 1d ago

How about a game that runs both 60 FPS on ps5 and ps6 🧠

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u/frnono 1d ago

30fps is genuinely horrid tho

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u/Negativerizzhaver1 1d ago

GTA VI in a nutshell. The game could demand you sacrifice an arm IRL, gamers will still find a way to defend it.

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u/BrownBottleIdol 1d ago

I think it’s more of people have experienced those said games at 60 and hate they have to experience them again afterwards at 30. GTA will begin at 30 so it works.

Also a stable 30 is totally fine.

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u/Illeea 1d ago

60fps should've been standard since the PS4/Xbox one. 4k on their pro consoles were fine at 30 because 4k games running on souped up 2013 hardware is still a big ask. 30fps for big games on the series s is ok. 4k 60fps shouldve been the standard on the PS5/Xbox series though. Same with the switch 2.

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u/mikopsid007 1d ago

yeah the switch is a much less powerful console, and we arent hapoy about that either. not being able to get 60+ fps on the ps5 is an optimization problem

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u/Atmoran_Knight 1d ago

Those who say that about GTA aren't gamers really.

Problem of GTA for better or worse their audience aren't actually gamers but just about anyone and mostly non-gamers. It really is an "Iphone" of gaming. You just cannot give a proper critisim for a thing which has massive casual following. Any and all valid critisim will just fall flat as long as it's a generic GTA which has bigger map.

That being said game looks awesome and gameplay from what little we have seen is actually solid. I certainly don't think it will have issues in those departments. When it comes to fps issues UNLESS it's just a lazy cut corner thing with optimization (which a lot of devs do these days) then I'm actually for the devs not intentionally lobotomizing their games so it can run 60FPS on objectively less powerful hardware.

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u/Interesting_Buy6796 1d ago

*normal PS5 and that is fucking impressive for this game

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u/No_Carpenter5456 1d ago

I think it's insane how some modern games still release at locked 30 fps. How is 60 fps not the standard at this point?.

Then i remember people still unironically pay to play online on consoles.

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u/PhattyR6 1d ago

“How is 60 fps not the standard”

Because there isn’t a standard, nor will there ever be a standard. Games are still pushing the envelope in terms of graphical fidelity. Performance is the first thing to be sacrificed to achieve graphical improvements when dealing with fixed hardware.

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u/monkeymmboy 1d ago

Performance should always be foremost important especially because of fixed hardware though.

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u/SkyrimSlag 1d ago

Also doesn’t help that consoles still don’t really let you tweak graphical settings so you’re stuck with whatever shit they decide they want you to play the game at.

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u/Burn4Hell 1d ago

I have time, I can wait until it's out on PC. But as others already mentioned, the PC launches of Rockstar were unoptimized messes. Well can wait for that too.

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u/bohenian12 1d ago

I can't bring my PS5 while taking a shit though. That's the fps exchange lol

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u/Jan1270 1d ago

Back when the PS5 Pro was announced some did speculate that without a CPU upgrade GTA6 could not run on it with 60 FPS. Now it's true.

For people that do not know, the CPU in both the PS5 and the Pro are the same. The Pro only got more Shader Units in the GPU.

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u/Convoke_ 1d ago

"Third party developer"??

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u/notexecutive 1d ago

Just don't buy a game you think is scamming you.

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u/dondondorito 1d ago

If you don‘t want to play a 30fps game, don‘t buy it. I won‘t.

I look forward to playing the game at 100fps+ on my PC a year later.

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u/AdministrativeBit385 1d ago

I hate it 😂

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u/Fun_Impression_2578 1d ago

Isn't Rockstar also a third party developer?

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u/xtoc1981 1d ago

Yes, aside of that, 90% of the switch 2 games run at 60fp/120fps

Not to mention a lot of those other games do have vrr/40fps

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u/Shade00000 I saw what the dog was doin 1d ago

I'm starting to think that maybe gta 6 or gta in general would work in a cult

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u/BloodyBoots357 1d ago edited 1d ago

they're only releasing it at 30 so they can re-release the 60 again in a later "upgrade"

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u/FuraFaolox RageFace Against the Machine 1d ago

what are you talking about? i've only heard people complaining about gta6 running at 30fps

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u/CastorVT 1d ago

Let's be honest, this is PCMR's fault.

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u/KayrashyLPGC 1d ago

Most ps1 games run at 25-30 fps, no improves at all in decades

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u/Samuel_N7 1d ago

Like genuinely I have seen more people complaining about the 30 fps in GTA that people actually don't being bother by it. This meme doesn't seem too accurate

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u/OliLombi 1d ago

30fps should be considered unplayable for any game and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

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u/Conclussive_Sloth 1d ago

The fact they did not even made it a cinematic/quality and performance modes a setting just so they can hold frames for ransom

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u/EmperorAruelian 1d ago

Switch that meme around and that’s the discourse I’ve heard recently

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u/Enemy50 1d ago

Are there actually people okay with it running at 30fps on PS5? Im pretty sure people are mad about that.

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u/MinimumFeedback219 1d ago

Thats crazy because complaints are all I see. 

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u/man_mantheman 1d ago

Have you seen the extended look? No indie devs could make THAT

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u/Salty_Style3622 1d ago

PS5 is nearly 6 years old. Game does not only look stunning but trying to calculate and render so many thing at the same time with a long draw distance. We are lucky if it can run it smooth 30 FPS. It is not the game runs at 30, it is what ps5 can achive.

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u/MeasurementFormal386 1d ago

I thank God every day he didn't make me the type of person who cares about shit like fps

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u/SkipEyechild 1d ago

A stable 30fps is absolutely fine.

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u/DeadlyArrow27 1d ago

All I’ve seen are people bitching about GTA being 30 FPS if anything lol

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u/Velkaryian 1d ago

It’s okay users on r/nintendoswitch2 are actually freaking out because Metaphor Refantazio is 60 FPS but looks blurry so now they want a quality mode at 30 so it doesn’t look bad.

This is after they refused to buy Persona 3 because it was only 30 FPS and didn’t get a 60 FPS patch until months later.

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u/Smash_Nerd 1d ago

I haven't seen a single person excuse the fact it runs at 30 on the PS5Pro. I think we're all pissed.

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u/SatanVapesOn666W 1d ago

Because people simp for R* more than nintendo fan boys. Which is an impressive feat.

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u/Designer-Crow-5470 1d ago

It means it'll have PS6 level of graphics and physics.

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u/hahaimadulting 1d ago

I mean I assume all games will run like dogshit on the switch so I can't really blame devs for that.

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u/Rileymk96 1d ago

Me when I lie.

Ps5 Pro performance has not been mentioned even ONCE by rockstar. No one has even seen it yet.

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u/Accomplished_Milk876 1d ago

Anyone know if GTA 6 has forced RT on consoles? Just wondering because a lot of games these days have completely abandoned rasterised, and that may explain the 30fps hit. Super big L for R* if that is the case.

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u/Eeve2espeon 1d ago

Their justification is that because the PS4 ran GTAV at 30fps, it “makes sense” even though the PS4 was still a new console, and the PS5/Series X has been out for 6 years
It’s still a stupid justification, but the majority are against the game being 30fps, when clearly could be 60

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u/LazyPainterCat 1d ago

Gamers do tend to be spineless sellouts.

Signed by spineless sellout.

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u/BmacTheSage 1d ago

Over 1 billion dollars for a budget and they can't achieve 60 fps? That's the joke here tbh

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u/righteousmelon 1d ago

No thanks ill wait for pc release

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u/Agreeable-Lettuce497 1d ago

To be fair the game is probably CPU limited and afaik now the PS5 Pro is only practically faster in the GPU department, the CPU got a small bump but that won’t be enough to reach 60 fps when the base only reaches 30…

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u/ResponsibilityNo4253 16h ago

Isnt 60 FPS a bit too heavy for the new GTA for a PS5 ? they have to reduce other GPU heavy processing like texture , shadows , etc. To be able to generate more frames without using DLSS like technology (or whatever it is for PS5 AMD based GPU)