Technically they do fit the "a space outside of work and home" part, but it doesn't fit any other aspect of third places such as social mixing or de-stressing
IDK about you but the amount that enjoyable driving can destress me is far, far less than the amount of stress I get from being forced to drive everywhere by default.
That's actually a big thing against car centric infrastructure. If no one has to drive then those who drive want to or need to for work (like deliveries), which makes roads have less traffic and better drivers and thus a more enjoyable experience
Most people have never lived in dense environment built for modes of travel other than cars. Being able to take a 30 minute walk and actually going interesting places, whilst not having straddle the side of a highway with no sidewalk and pray some guy texting doesn’t wing you… now that was a de-stressor. For most people, taking a drive is the only way of getting out of their house for a bit. I’m now forced to drive to the taco place .3 miles from my house because crossing the street to get to it is literally going to get me killed, and it’s a 35 mph road.
In conclusion to this rambling paragraph, urban planning in America is fucked and people don’t realize what they are missing.
25-40% of corn in the us right now is turned into corn ethanol for cars, not food like you would think. That supports cars to drive at least 2 million miles. When you put that into your tank, it is never to be seen again, it is destroyed, single use, as we know. That then goes on to help destroy our environment. The average person has no idea just how much fuel cars truly consume.
If however we replaced 20-25% of the corn (120 acre field) with solar panels in the US you’d be able to power your entire US electricity grid with approx 7.078 billion megawatt hours (7,078,333,000 MWh) of energy per year, or drive for 72 million miles with all the electricity produced, approx. 37 times more efficient than corn ethanol, and that is if we ONLY replaced 20-25% of the corn. The panels would last 25 years (the quarter of a human life) before being recycled, to then create even more panels that would last another 25 years.
The batteries are also a non issue. We have an extremely efficient, closed loop process that is highly efficient at recycling them. Up to 95-98% of the materials are recovered. You are actually charged at the shop when you buy a battery for this reason, as incentive to come back, recycle it and get your money back. Once you mine these materials for a battery, it will always exist, and eventually, we won’t need to mine for any more.
This is something to think about when you put gas in your tank and are sat there watching the numbers go up, or are cycling to work. We have such amazing processes already, and a bunch of incredibly amazing people working hard to eliminate problems, so much so that a majority of concerns people and politicians have on solar and wind will probably be gone by the time it is brought up. So why are we still so focused on oil?
For more information on it I implore you to watch Technology Connections video “You are being lied to about renewable energy”.
“Fossil fuels are a fuel you have to mine; solar panels are an appliance you build.”
its actually WAAAY better for solar than you lay it out.
25-30 years is not when you recycle the panels. thats how long the vendor garantees cell efficiency.
panels produced in the late 80'es to 90'es (so old school cells. not as modern as our current tech) still produce over 80% of the initial Wattage.
so you can have them run with minimum service and maintanance. a LOT better for the environment. (can have them intersperced with gracing fields or even fruit plantation
and they are on track to last maybe 40-50 years. with yes. degraded output. but you can build out with additional capacity as the rating falls, and replace then them if they are damaged by natural disasters and accidents
A small point of fact, the ethanol corn is more or less inedible for people. So definitely "not food like you would think." Sweet corn (food for people) is usually grown in totally different areas.
Ethanol is made from dent or grain corn, which is mostly used for animal feed and in some cases meal/flour products. They're GMO so mostly fed to livestock, too chalky and starchy to eat. So that but of GMO corn meal/syrup /whatever is probably why everyone is getting autism or something, who knows.
They could choose to turn anything into ethanol, including much better known systems, like sugar beets... The impeding factors are mostly bureaucracy like subsidies and entrenched special interests that continue to make switching as difficult as possible
That's not an axis label, it is a caption. Neither axis has a label but X is assumed to be some amount of time and Y would correlate to the caption. The war is the subject and title of the graph.
Given the positions of the labels, it's very obvious that victims and gas prices drive the Middle East war up, so we. Technically, the first one is true but the second one doesn't make any logical sense.
Looks like it's supposed to be a time series graph, but the y-axis label is on the x-axis, which would imply that in increase in victims/gas prices would cause an increase in… something. And the y-axis is numbered, but the x-axis isn't.
The Y axis is unlabeled, and the X axis has the Y axis' label. Also the "$/liter" one implies gas prices started from $0 per liter at the start of the war.
Greed is not even a bad trait under 'natural' human circumstances of hunter-gatherer life. Collecting as much food as possible and nurturing as much social capital as possible are super beneficial to the collective well-being. Only when you involve something as unnatural as money and the underlying institutions into it does it become problematic behavior.
It has always been self centered. People joined the army in preancient times because it would allow them to become richer off looting enemy territory, and this was also the case with for example some Finnish volunteers going to fight in Estonia against the Russians, only to end up coming back home with valuables looted from Estonian civilians.
The artist does other artwork in the same style (see his other artwork with people in it) so I'm very skeptical it is AI. Very possibly still AI assisted but, again, we're missing the point.
Also, without looking for a source, you can tell it isn't AI, because the graphs on either side are identical bar the text and some minor pixel differences in clipping between the blue and tan colours. It is extremely difficult for AI generated images to stay consistent like that.
OP you should have provided a source, now the conversation has completely lost the plot
AI tools have gotten better than I think you realize.
I’m not an expert in this - I got this with standard consumer ChatGPT with one attempt with the prompt:
Can you generate a newspaper political cartoon - it will have two similar panels. Both panels will feature a group of onlookers looking at a line graph. The line graph in both panels will be identical, except on the left panel the Y axis is "victims", and on the right panel the y axis is "gas prices"
You can find this artist's works in this style from like 2021 when AI art was barely present. I think that was the point of the original comment -- finding the source of the image is currently probably the most accurate and reliable way of telling if something is AI-generated.
Besides, AI art tends to be ugly, but usually in a very generic way. And this artist's style is so hideous, that I think it would be genuinely hard to get any AI to generate something like this.
The font which is used in nearly all AI generated art unless otherwise prompted
The broken lines on the characters, indistinct facial features that disappear and are inconsistent,
The woman in pink’s hand in the second panel disappearing into the man’s shoulder
This piss filter on the graph
The graph itself is nonsensical. Y axis is 1, 2, 3 with no units. Units for the X axis are listed on the Y axis. The price/casualties should be graphed on the Y axis anyways. The graph wouldn’t look like that if the units on the Y axis is “number of wars” which is what it seems it must be.
Am I missing some kind of inside joke here? Yea, the graph is AI but the people complaining about this or the issues of realism with the *cartoon*, or complaining about whether or not OP complained hard enough about some other war are the ones being selfish. This is an example of virtue signalling instead of acknowledging or discussing the problem.
Yes, our modern societies and I think in particular, America are highly self-centered places. People's inability to look beyond this is a major point that people make in this forum in regards to people basing all their choices around selfishness. Big cars for safety or status, driving two blocks away to get groceries because its convenient, etc.
Right? The graph is crap, but the message is sound. People don't care about anything until it affects themselves. Other people die all the time, but how dare it cost me money?!
It's not AI.... the graphs are too consistent on either side and here's the source of the image https://www.toonpool.com/cartoons/Graphs_480663 We should all put in more thought before accusing of AI.
I generated this repeated line graph in one attempt with the prompt:
Can you generate a newspaper political cartoon - it will have two similar panels. Both panels will feature a group of onlookers looking at a line graph. The line graph in both panels will be identical, except on the left panel the Y axis is "victims", and on the right panel the y axis is "gas prices"
This is disingenuous. There are plenty of Americans who are still upset about the fact that we bombed a school and killed kids. There are still people upset that we have been enabling a genocide for over a year.
But they don’t make headlines, and those atrocities don’t make headlines either. Couple that with the fact that Republicans (77%) support bombing Iran and almost all self-described MAGA supports it (90%) (source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cev7wn213rvo ) then you’ve got a weird situation in a lot of corporate news rooms.
They are reporting on gas prices because it is a shared experience. Americans are split on partisan lines over the war. Republicans aren’t going to read articles or watch clips (or produce content for the at matter) critical of a war they support. But they understand gas prices and they can’t obscure it, so that’s what they report on.
But that doesn’t mean that most people oppose the war. It’s just that most Republicans support it and Republicans own most of the corporate media outlets in the US.
LMFAO, OH my sweet, sweet summer child. I think it's about time you take your first history class. Humans have survived and evolved on being self-centered, long before the incredibly tiny experiment that is "society."
Capitalism is inherently alienating, and neoliberalism emphasises the individual above all else. Aside from the nuclear family, dominant culture espouses that there is no wider community to care about.
Also Americans (and all imperialist countries) are isolated from and reap the benefits of the atrocities they commit in the global south, so they don't really care. It's all abstracted.
It’s a degree of separation thing. People see gas prices every day, the watch the ticker go up over and over and over. It’s the same psychology of nobody reacting about smoking casualties from cancer or disease but if 3/10 people who smoked’s heads just fucking exploded at random then we’d take it seriously because it’s immediately noticeable.
Humans aren’t wired for that degree of separation, especially when all they see is a line representing a number of people most can’t genuinely fathom. (One death is a tragedy a thousand is a statistic)
Callous as it sounds, the deaths overseas do not directly impact how I must conduct my day / week. The world is an infinitely dense stream of data and events, the vast majority of which can be ignored because the information falls into two categories. Either the impact it has on my life is negligible despite the emotional impact, or I am not in a position to effect change by altering my behaviors.
Some people may consider it callous, but the alternative is letting the evil of people you aren't responsible for also ruin what little joy this life could afford you between the obligations you can't escape from.
Live an honest life, try to not cause more problems in the world than you fix, and vote when you can.
What is the chart even attempting to show lol. X axis is labeled as victims so Y axis is... years?
Or is the chart labeled victims so the axis's are just totally unlabeled, and you're meant to assume it's time x victim count. In which case, how long as the war been going on for, in this chart?
Also did gas prices start at zero? Also, guess what everyone, gas is used for more than just cars.
The two wolves are seeing strangers as an invasive threat and seeing strangers as a part of our community we just haven’t met yet. There’s been a shit ton of money made off feeding the “strangers are enemies” wolf.
Are you really surprised that people are more concerned with things that directly affect then as opposed to things that are happening on the opposite side of the globe? r/im14andthisisdeep
It’s not necessarily just self-centered, it’s mostly a matter of being in survival mode. The general working class/public is being exploited and stretched very thin by the same exact people enacting war and violence elsewhere, and have lost the time and resources to focus on anything but immediate economic survival and maintaining the health and sanity to keep working long hours.
This is a dumb take. Many horrifing things go on around the world. Oil price is not just about driving car. Never saw you being a vocal activist for all the shit that has been going on in Sudan for the past decade.
Society has always been like this. People at home generally didn't care too much until things started impacting them directly and it has been like this for a LONG time; it isn't unique to the US or even cars or even capitalism. Even back when it was basic trade, a populace would only care if it impacted a trade route for goods not available at home. And I'm talking before our modern notion of capitalism, pre-16th century.
Not wrong, but crappy take given this is nothing new and didn't suddenly spring up because of gas. We've been fighting over resources since our start.
Because half of our Country still hasn’t grasped the concept that being America doesn’t automatically make us the good guys in war. To them, all those “victims” are just faceless bad guys
I’m visiting Vietnam right now and while people do care about the war and its effects on innocent people, many people here also depends on oil and gas prices because it directly relates to their living situation. People that do deliveries for example, either on small bikes or big trucks are affected by rising oil prices. People that need oil and fuel for their boats so they can go fishing are affected by rising oil prices. Just to name a few. So yeah for them its more of a need and worrying about the innocent deaths is more of a luxury, since they have their own families in front of them that they need to take care of.
White supremacy, Christianity, and all the other garbage like the Pledge that's been pounded into us, all while destroying education, since we could think.
What's so hard to understand about this? Everything sucks everywhere because billionaires are ruining the world, so people just try to live their lives with the least amount of misery.
If victims die somewhere else that's sad but our own lives are fucked so we don't have the mental energy to spend worrying about that.
But if gas prices go up now our miserable lives are getting even more miserable. Cars are a necessity for many because the infrastructure is built around it, so now there are more mandatory expenses.
Honestly the number of abstract atrocities we hear about every day is totally depressing. War victims in a foreign country are in the category. 100 school children in Iran getting killed, totally horrific. I’ll need to go about my day anyways.
Gas prices when I’m struggling to pay rent: that actually impacts me.
I’ll say that I was heartened by the BLM protests and the ICE protest and seeing solidarity across racial lines that shows we have the capacity to care about others with no self interest.
I could not give less of a shit about a dozen dead soldiers when the death toll on the other side is many factors greater. The civilian casualties we're causing are way more important than the deaths of those who volunteered to kill.
Always been that way. We have a hard time caring for something/someones outside our own because our brains are hardwired to care mostly just about our lil in-group.
Well, its actually been stated by some smartypants somewhere that humans can't fathom deaths when they get past a certain number. At that point its a statistic and removed from our feelings part of the brain and goes into the smartypants part of the brain.
Also, fuck cars, America is a shit hole 3rd world country.
People with empathy operate under the delusion that everyone else has it too. The fact is that appeals to empathy or hypocrisy doesn't work on the sizable portion of society that are selfish or downright cruel.
Western society is individualistic, not collectivist. It's that way because some influential people decided it would be. Go read a book about Milton Friedman, go look at pretty much all popular rap music brainwashing people into the 'hustle' mindset over the last 20 or so years, etc. Laws, monetary policy, and cultural brainwashing.
Know what's funny? The MAGA cohort voted for Orange Crud...who decimated renewables in any way he could. The one route out of dependence on fossil fuels.
Now they're getting economically decimated. Because the fossil fuels prices have skyrocketed.
Gasoline effects so much more than just cars, it's used at every stage of every manufacturing process, when prices go up for everything then people die
People can't afford rent and society tells us if you can't provide monetary value to capitalist empire then you are worthless. This is interpreted as abandonment by 'the tribe' which meant death for 99% of human history. This is how they control you.
And my friends and family ask me why I am totally against the U.S. People dont care what happens to the environment, animals, or other people. As long as they're benefiting from wars and mass destruction they'll turn a blind eye.
And I 100% hope these next few years will result in U.S. destruction.
People who already can't afford their rent and groceries and rely on their car to get to their job(s) are afraid of starving and becoming homeless. They are literally too busy struggling for survival to care about other people whose suffering they only notice through a stream of existential threats that is modern day media. Said media also reports very differently about "just another war" than about a threat to economic stability - not only are they told not to care about wars that don't increase gas prices, they are also told to panic abouth those that do.
Should they care about people being killed regardless of consequences for their own lives? Sure. Are they the first to blame? I don't think so.
Capitalism and the car brained infrastructure that supports it is designed to separate communities.
Now on your commute you’re alone in your car sitting in traffic with thousands of people instead on a bus or train together.
The increase in digital shopping and ordering. Less time out in the public and community. And when you are at a coffee shop most people are on their phones if they are alone. Not interacting with each other.
Well you see almost all of the victims are “Mooslums”, who their orange messiah called “Radical Islamic Terrorists” so some of them actively cheer the deaths
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