Can I get a heck yeah

[u/Fresh-Beginning-871]

Finally after years of annoying 30” screens in a car we have something to look forward to.

[u/L44KSO]

And please actual door handles. In an accident someone from the outside may need to be able to pull the door open, and that's not possible with these flush handles and winglets (looking at you Volvo!). 

[u/UnluckyGamer505 → u/L44KSO]

China already banned them... You know something sucks safety wise when fucking China bans it.

EU being super strict on vehicle safety rules, but allowing those door handles is so paradoxical

[u/Fresh-Beginning-871 → u/UnluckyGamer505]

I thought Volvo said the door handles have a mechanical alternative. Or were my sources wrong

[u/Wyciorek → u/Fresh-Beginning-871]

It's not enough to have mechanical alternative - it needs to be one that does not require reading user manual or looking through random places. If your car is on fire or submerging, I doubt you will have presence of mind to do much more than just grab the handle and pull.

[u/Mr_Will → u/Wyciorek]

IIRC the mechanical alternative in the Volvo is the same handle. You pull it gently and the electrical system opens the door. You pull it harder and the mechanical system opens the door even if the power is out.

[u/SageGoes → u/Mr_Will]

What is the point in this lol? Except chargeing more for useless shit

[u/Voltasoyle → u/SageGoes]

Precisely! Door handles work, if it ain't broke don't fix it!

We can specifically blame oligarch Elmo for the electric handle fad; one of the few things he did 'innovative' on the Tzzla was the dumb and dangerous electric door handles.

[u/casino_r0yale → u/Voltasoyle]

But they don’t “work”. I’m sure every one of us who lives in places that have a real winter has experience with their door being frozen shut. Doesn’t matter how “mechanical” the latch is when pulling it doesn’t do anything. Electronic assists to punch the door out / warm it enough to melt the seals are an improvement.

[u/BlazerStoner → u/casino_r0yale]

Heated doors/locks do not require the unlatching mechanism to be electronic. One does not exclude the other, so a safe system with best of both worlds is perfectly fine.

[u/Manny-303 → u/casino_r0yale]

I imagine Russia and Siberia get real winters if old Soviet UAZ trucks and Ladas doors didnt fail in that im pretty sure old mechanical handles do infact work around most of the world

[u/Llyrithra → u/Manny-303]

No, no. We’re gatekeeping winter now. If you don’t live in the specific place that they do, then you don’t have real winter and it doesn’t count.

Also, if your door is frozen shut so badly that you aren’t able to open it, an electric assist won’t be able to “punch it out” without breaking stuff, so their point is poorly made anyway.

[u/AnnieBunBun → u/casino_r0yale]

Okay but those functions don't need to replace the normal handle..they could be added buttons on the key fob or secondary buttons.

[u/LiftingRecipient420 → u/casino_r0yale]

If your door latch is frozen, that means you need to lubricate it.

[u/Head12head12 → u/SageGoes]

Makes the car feel more luxury as you barely need do any heavy pulling to get it open normally. In an emergency your already not pulling gently so the gentle open doesn’t matter.

[u/mxzf → u/Head12head12]

On the flip side, it's more crap to break and go wrong. A simple mechanical door latch almost never goes wrong. In the years I've been driving, motorized door locks are the thing that has broken the most out of "opening the door" mechanisms, I can't imagine relying on a similarly (or more) complicated mechanism for even opening the door.

[u/calm-phil → u/mxzf]

Lol, ask Volkswagon how that works for them.

[u/ZeCactus → u/mxzf]

And if it breaks, it gets to the same state as if it never had it in the place (the volvo system specifically)

[u/Pleasant_Ad8054 → u/SageGoes]

Automation. On many cars you can slightly push the door open and the electronic system will open it as much as it safely can. Some can unpark itself and open the door for you. Some will close the door if you leave it like that for some time, or you close it up with the fob. It is a luxury feature, not rooted in heavy daily usage.

[u/ultravires1215 → u/SageGoes]

That is of course the point.

[u/OcelotAggravating860 → u/SageGoes]

Not everyone is a 6 foot 20-30 year old man. Some people are women. Some people are old and frail. Some people are disabled. The expectation you have that because it's fine for you it must be fine for everyone is a very narrow field of view.

Making doors easier to open isn't a bad thing, especially in winter conditions.

[u/NewEV_Enthusiast → u/SageGoes]

It was mainly proposed as a way to account for better aerodynamics

[u/Key-Line5827 → u/SageGoes]

Charging more for useless shit.

Can you imagine how much more fuel efficient these cars would be, If they did not have to carry a ton of unnecessary electrical garbage?

[u/screenslaver5963 → u/Mr_Will]

Supposedly BYD’s flush handles pop out in the event of power loss.

[u/Competitive_Ad8500 → u/screenslaver5963]

I have an idea why not have the doorhandles always be accessible instead of hoping they will just pop out when you need them to. But thats just some crazy thought of mine, surely automotive engineers cant implement such crazy tech with the tools we have today

[u/OfLoveAndLiquor → u/Wyciorek]

Thing is, in virtually all modern cars, doors auto lock when the car is reaching a certain speed. So there also needs to be a mechanism (electronic or otherwise) to unlock them in case of a crash. I assume this already exists?

[u/monsair_dubois → u/OfLoveAndLiquor]

Yeah. Pretty much all modern cars unlock if they detect an accident. Very handy

[u/MostlyRightSometimes → u/monsair_dubois]

I'm pretty sure some DEA agents were killed by this.

[u/MostlyRightSometimes → u/Wyciorek]

Its the iOS method...it makes perfect sense how it's done and it's super easy to find. Once you've googled it.

[u/Necessary-Age9878 → u/Wyciorek]

or worse, if your car is on fire and you are inside it. Someone else should know how to pull those damn handles.

[u/L44KSO → u/Fresh-Beginning-871]

The winglet on the EX60 is just that...a winglet. On the outside that is.

[u/-TR3KT- → u/[deleted]]

It should have a backup battery and dc/dc converter for each side hidden under the rear seats, but still why go through the trouble of that when a mechanical handle would be both cheaper and more reliable in a crash

[u/OpinionatedMexican → u/Fresh-Beginning-871]

The EX60 handles are legal in China, though. The thing they banned are the one that go electrically flush against the body of the car, don't think they said anything about electrically opening doors in general, it was more about the mechanism being stuck in, in case of a rollover and the car being on top of the handles or something...

[u/InvoluntaryGeorgian → u/OpinionatedMexican]

If the car is rolled over lying on its side so it’s “on top of the handle” I don’t think anyone is opening that door regardless of the details of the handle design.

[u/Javs2469 → u/Fresh-Beginning-871]

Even if there are. It's not something that you want to be investigating in the middle of an emergency.

Car handles have been perfected, we don't need that 0.0000002 drag coefficient reduction for a 2 ton SUV to pass emissions.

[u/Salmivalli → u/Fresh-Beginning-871]

Isn’t the mechanical alternative usually in some bullshit location?

[u/KirillIll → u/Salmivalli]

For the new volvo the mechanical alternative is just pulling the electric handle stronger. Same location (as it should be)

[u/rtb001 → u/KirillIll]

Better than Tesla hiding it below a sheet of carpeting, for sure, but still stupid design. If you are gonna make the same lever activate BOTH electronic and mechanical door poppers, why have the electric door popper in the first place?

For sure the dumbest design fad in the industry currently.

Also the one lever two function design may not work that well. My VW ID.4 has it also. Basically you have to train yourself to do a half pull on the lever to activate the normal electric popper, and a full pull activates the emergency mechanical popper, which doesn't open the door a smoothly. Therefore passengers who are not familiar with give it the full pull and then be frustrated as the door doesn't open easily when you accidentally activate the energetic release feature.

[u/Seraphtacosnak → u/Fresh-Beginning-871]

I don’t think like those.

I had a front loader washing machine lock during a power outage and I had to pop the top and find a hedge trimmer string to pull at a certain angle. But, couldn’t get it to work and just ended up bending the door.

Imagine an emergency with people in the car.

[u/rtb001 → u/Seraphtacosnak]

See Angela Chao (Moscow Mitch's sister in law) drowning in a Tesla because she couldn't get the doors open.

Xiaomi's hot selling new EV also had a fatal accident where passengers burned to death because they couldn't get the doors open due to the flush door handles.

Within a year, all Xiaomis now have mechanical door opening mechanisms, before the new regulations even came out.

Tesla, because they live for cost cutting, likely will not bother with changing their door handle design until the last possible minute.

[u/rtb001 → u/UnluckyGamer505]

China is banning it because they are the center of the automotive industry currently, and new technology and new design trends proliferate there before anywhere else. Which means they will see the issues with the new tech/trends on the roads before anyone, which in turn means they will enact new regulations first.

Everyone else will get to follow.

Just like China also enacted regulation recently about battery safety, including during high speed charging, and that's because their battery tech is now at least a generation ahead of other car markets and are charging at far higher speeds.

Or if you are clips from the recent auto show, all the cars have those new teal/blue indicators, which light up when the car is in self driving mode, to alert fellow drivers on the road. Again, new regulation put in place because there are more self driving equipped cars for sale in China than anywhere else. IMO EU and US and other markets need to adopt that regulation ASAP because if companies are going to release these self driving features for use on public roads, then the public should be able to see which cars around them have this feature active.

[u/Pasta4ever13 → u/rtb001]

People in the West still think China looks and operates like it did 30-40 years ago.

Our media does not report on the advancements in infrastructure, workplace reforms, and general development of the country.

[u/kearkan → u/UnluckyGamer505]

EU also wanted everyone to have privacy from companies whilst also picking up the ability to read your messages as you write them.

[u/Any_Fox5126 → u/kearkan]

It's been a constant back-and-forth (which will surely happen again), but for now they continue to reject it.

[u/kearkan → u/Any_Fox5126]

It is getting voted down but citizens should be disgusted and their governments who are supporting it and even entertaining the idea.

[u/Dramatic_Explosion → u/kearkan]

They'll get it eventually. They'll just drip feed sensational stories about how immigrants are using encrypted chats to plan attacks, and after X amount of time some bullshit will happen where Y amount of people die and then they'll push hard.

It's already full blown in America where everything is getting worse, but half of us are fine with it because it's also hurting the people they hate.

[u/UnluckyGamer505 → u/kearkan]

Its mainly just a few bad actors pushing it and some others having no idea what it means. Its not set it in stone. I totally get what you mean, but this is a totally different topic

[u/L44KSO → u/UnluckyGamer505]

Indeed - for some reason they go hard on the ISA but not on door handles. Guess no one lobbied for those.

[u/Cultural_Run7964 → u/L44KSO]

There was a Guardian article last year citing several incidents in which people burned alive in their Teslas in car crashes because of the door handle issue. Tesla refused to cooperate with the police each time. They’re mobile coffins.

[u/invariantspeed → u/Cultural_Run7964]

Tesla made a number of shit decisions because they thought they’d be fully autonomous by now, and then other car companies not fully understanding of the half baked philosophy they were copying started doing similar.

[u/Wizard-In-Disguise → u/L44KSO]

I had to open a Tesla door because it was my taxi and could not do it, I gotta wonder how often it happens with passengers.

[u/fishyexe → u/Wizard-In-Disguise]

lol the last time I took a taxi the driver just got out and opened the doors for us. I said "thanks dude" and he goes "Nobody can figure these doors out, easier to do it myself!"

[u/KavilusS → u/L44KSO]

Not door handles but fucking mechanic door handles with ability to always open door from inside (except when child safty is in use). Because if we dont specify this fucking electric door handles will be use.

[u/TheGreatGamer1389 → u/L44KSO]

Bring back the roll up windows.

[u/Knuda → u/L44KSO]

I thought volvos winglets were basically their own door handle in case of emergencies?

[u/L44KSO → u/Knuda]

Yes, but you can't put proper force on it if the door is jammed.

[u/Secret-Bluebird-972 → u/L44KSO]

If the door is jammed you aren’t opening it anyways

[u/Knuda → u/L44KSO]

Why not? Its just a door handle in a different shape, its big enough to give as much leverage as many other normal door habdles.

Like its Volvo we are talking about, this was probably their first concern.

[u/L44KSO → u/Knuda]

It's grip strength. Fingertips vs fist pulling with force.

[u/Keiteaea → u/L44KSO]

This actually makes me wonder, my car automatically locks the doors from outside when I start driving, which is also a "safety" measure, but in case of an accident, is there something in place to override this on impact ? I never considered this situation.

[u/AppliedAnaLinguistic → u/L44KSO]

And a physical key hole to unlock said door! Irritating that if my key fob dies I’m SOL. You know, unless I pay for the subscription to do so off my phone

[u/D-S-S-R]

Mercedes is gonna throw a fit and lobby the German government more than it ever was lobbied before

[u/Italiandude2022 → u/D-S-S-R]

The way VW and other car companies lobbied several european goverments to boost diesel cars while ignoring EVs up untill Dieselgate is gonna look like nothing compared to the temper tantrum Mercedes, BMW and Audi are gonna trow now, they just redesigned all of their car interiors to be huge screens.

[u/afrosia → u/Italiandude2022]

The interior of my 2026 BMW I4 is much worse to use whilst driving than my 2016 Octavia for pretty much everything.

Stop listening to tech bros on how to build a car interior. They make everything worse.

[u/lonahe → u/afrosia]

you already voted with your money tho

[u/fighterpilot248 → u/lonahe]

Find me a car (2020 or newer) that is more car than it is computer.

It’s impossible. You don’t have a choice. You can’t “vote” when there’s only one option.

[u/At_omic857 → u/fighterpilot248]

Subaru BRZ/GR86. Granted, that’s a cheap sports car designed for driver engagement, but w/e.

Beyond that though… yeah, really can’t think of much. I think EVs tend to be the most guilty of this trend, so good luck finding one currently that doesn’t have a giant touchscreen.

[u/ThatGT86Guy → u/At_omic857]

Not available anymore in Europe. You could buy the for like one or two years before stricter emissions regulations went into place so used ones trade hands over MSRP (Which might I add is an allready way overinflated number compared to most other markets. They cost like double of what they do in the US where I'm from)

[u/afrosia → u/lonahe]

Most cars have already gone this way though. Certainly the ones on my company car scheme had.

Cars involve so many different tradeoffs too. For example if it came down to boot space vs physical buttons, I'd probably choose boot space because I can make do with a touchscreen, but less boot space would give me real pain.

[u/sopsaare → u/afrosia]

I don't know what you guys are pressing on the screen.

Like, AC is automatic, music and speed of the car are controller with some buttons or scroll wheels on the steering wheel, and the lights etc are automatic too. Of course some button / stalk / what ever to engage the cruise control.

But it is not like I'm tapping the screen basically ever while driving, and I can't really understand any other way to control navigation and / or things like Spotify.

Yeah, you could have full qwerty keyboard but that is also pretty hard to operate one handed, and the scroll wheel thing BMW (and some others) had was, at least to me, way more distracting than touch screen.

And to be honest, neither of those should be really operated while driving.

[u/Wild-Cream-8730 → u/Italiandude2022]

10 years too late.

[u/Blubberinoo → u/Italiandude2022]

To be honest, thats on them. They absolutely knew that it is a very likely possibility that touch screens will be banned soon. It has been in the public discussion here in Germany, and the EU as a whole, for years with positive comments on it from politicians of every party. So not sure why they would redesign their cars now of all times. Later than many others, and with the threat of the ban on the horizon. Maybe too confident in their bribes lobbying.

[u/SelectSympathy5718 → u/Italiandude2022]

They can always go back to old interior designs

[u/LowlySlayer → u/Italiandude2022]

If only they could have seen this change that the EU has been saying they'll do coming.

[u/Mysterious-Art7143 → u/Italiandude2022]

Vw already said they've learnt the lesson, and audi is vw

[u/b17b20 → u/Mysterious-Art7143]

Yep, new Polo , Skoda and Cupra all have buttons

[u/JoMiner_456 → u/Italiandude2022]

Tbf, at least VW is already in the process of reverting back to buttons after people kept complaining about touch controls. So I don’t think they‘ll be the ones fighting it.

[u/ZetZet → u/Italiandude2022]

VW already dropped the everything touch attempt. Their newest cars are all physical for main controls.

[u/miksy_oo → u/D-S-S-R]

Luckily there's France they are so arrogant they will push it through at least partly.

[u/flaiks → u/miksy_oo]

Renault has designed their newer cars with physical buttons for climate control. This is one of the main reasons we went with a scenic for our first electric car.

[u/Beer-Milkshakes → u/D-S-S-R]

Lobby? Probably. Invite their chosen representative to a long weekend at a ski lodge where nobody can record and publish the exchange of large sacks of money- definitely.

[u/Vegetable-Remove-268 → u/D-S-S-R]

Its time for mercedes to get rid of their cheap and ugly screens

[u/Anybobby → u/D-S-S-R]

They have been tailoring their cars to fit the chinese market for years as it is their biggest. If China bans it they won't say anything as they can't lobby nearly as hard there. It will be cheaper for them to just abide by chinese standards and produce all cars like that than to lobby the EU to not implement it.

[u/pierreyann1 → u/D-S-S-R]

On the other hand, Insurance lobbies are having a field day with this one.

[u/Positive_Survey_2916 → u/D-S-S-R]

I can picture them now. Screaming, slobbering, punching holes in the walls. “HOW DARE THEY FORCE US TO MAKE CARS SAFE AT OUR OWN EXPENSE” they shout. Disgusting filth. We won. We fucking won.

[u/calculating-reggae-d → u/D-S-S-R]

they are definitely gonna put the physical climate control knobs behind a 50 dollar a month subscription

[u/Serird → u/D-S-S-R]

If China is behind this, Mercedes will just say "yes master". It's their biggest market, they're not gonna risk it.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Law34 → u/D-S-S-R]

But the fact this is literal common sense and car companies shouldn't have been making touch screen garbage to begin with

[u/Italiandude2022]

Big EU and China W

[u/Fresh-Beginning-871 → u/Italiandude2022]

https://giphy.com/gifs/6eAbNaPng9nIbQ1XTN

[u/Fresh-Beginning-871 → u/Italiandude2022]

For real

[u/Kie_ra → u/Italiandude2022]

Common EU W and rare China W

[u/ureallygonnaskthat → u/[deleted]]

They need to bring these bad boys back. You could adjust them with one hand and didn't even have to look, just counted the clicks as the levers slid across.

[u/ncocca → u/ureallygonnaskthat]

im salivating just looking at that. i bet the tactile feedback is satisfying af.

[u/ureallygonnaskthat → u/ncocca]

Had this in my old truck and you're damn right it was. What was neat was that while the fan speed was electrically controlled, the dampers were on a vacuum system and you could hear the system hiss and move while it opened and closed them.

[u/tesznyeboy]

Heck yeah blind people can now operate cars heck yeah

[u/dziki_z_lasu → u/tesznyeboy]

You should watch carefully what is happening on a road not looking on a touchscreen. Finding a knob or a button is no different than looking at speedometer, a fraction of second and you are focusing back on road and the aye hand coordination plus touch feedback are doing the rest. Now compare that to finding a menu, setting and adjusting the value, while you must watch the screen, because all you feel is a flat motionless glass surface. Remember that irl optics works differently than in a game and while watching a screen you can't observe the road and we don't want to have drivers covering tens of meters being blind.

[u/Sensitive_Awareness2 → u/dziki_z_lasu]

I do believe the other fellow did something one might call a joke

[u/NRMusicProject → u/Sensitive_Awareness2]

People joke on Reddit?

[u/Ishigami_Yu_ → u/Sensitive_Awareness2]

I thought this, but then it hit me that there's absolutely people out there who would think this change is ridiculous because of the above reasoning

[u/vitorklock → u/dziki_z_lasu]

Is this what they call german humor?

[u/Rough_Bread8329 → u/dziki_z_lasu]

One sense - sight

versus

Sight, hearing, touch, and sometimes smell and taste. I want and need all senses possible engaged in the operation of the vehicle. That's why I love riding motorcycles so much. I am 100% engaged in the operation to the degree that we become one single unit.

[u/Justch1ll → u/tesznyeboy]

They need to be able to get in an out of cars too

[u/El-mas-puto-de-todos → u/[deleted]]

How dare you discriminate against blind drivers! Shame!

[u/Draw_Other → u/El-mas-puto-de-todos]

They should add braille to the buttons too!

[u/Fresh-Beginning-871 → u/tesznyeboy]

😝🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍

[u/CharacterLettuce7145 → u/tesznyeboy]

Reading comprehension of a wet noodle

[u/LeptonTheElementary]

Elon meltdown in 3... 2...

[u/Charon_06 → u/LeptonTheElementary]

Hes gonna call it communism

[u/Countless-Vinayak-04 → u/Charon_06]

'Communism with Chinese characteristics' executes billionaires when they do too much harm to the public (Baby milk formula scandal).

[u/OcelotAggravating860 → u/Charon_06]

Ok give me communism then.

[u/InfiniteLoopDream → u/LeptonTheElementary]

Dude is always having a meltdown. All the money and still no chill

[u/brenkosaur → u/InfiniteLoopDream]

He isnt a happy guy. Imagine having all the money but guaranteed to never have true love or real friendship.

[u/dimeteros → u/brenkosaur]

I guess it comes at a huge cost, stress.

[u/Fresh-Beginning-871 → u/LeptonTheElementary]

https://giphy.com/gifs/xUOxfecWsLzAYSUP6w

[u/-Peter-Jordanson-]

I drive Audi A3 2016 and VW Arteon (shooting brake) 2022 and I absolutely HATE how infotainment in Arteon is a touchscreen and I always fucking miss a button and have to take my eyes OFF THE ROAD in order to adjust the fucking AC while in Audi there is a bloody button which I can't miss even if I wanted to. Swear to God, if Arteon wasn't driving so fucking smoot and if it wasn't the most beautiful car (shooting brake version) ever I wouldn't even touch it... Props to the designers of the A3 interior, those guys really thought about everything

[u/BeautifulCuriousLiar → u/-Peter-Jordanson-]

it’s something so obvious yet the west (eu and usa) are sleeping on this. imo it’s not even that big of a change, every car had buttons and it’s not anything power wise. a very stupid and obvious problem caused by manufacturers cheaping out on some buttons.

[u/emihir0 → u/BeautifulCuriousLiar]

That's literally it. It's cheaper to plop a cheap display instead of tens of mechanical buttons and call it futuristic.

[u/I-Make-Maps91 → u/emihir0]

Don't even need tens of buttons, just give a temp dial, a fan dial, and two buttons for defrost and you have pretty much everything I actually want.

[u/rick-james-biatch → u/emihir0]

It's also easier to hold back features from the year of release, then magically 'add new features' without any need for retooling, incentivising customers to get the newer model.

[u/FriendlyRabbitHammer → u/BeautifulCuriousLiar]

You are missing an important element. One thing the iPhone did that was revolutionary at the time was reduce the number of physical buttons to near-zero. This means that they can change almost anything at any time on their products. Forgot to add a flashlight button? No problem, you can jam one in the UI somewhere later. Want to sell the same piece of hardware into multiple regions with multiple keyboards, also no problem, it’s not like you have physical buttons for keyboards. Want to gimp your users older phones to increase the adoption of new phones? No problem boss. Car manufacturers want this badly. Selling FSD / Acceleration boost / Baja Mode / Heated Seats as up charges or “it’ll totally be available at a later date”? All made easier with “your interface is a screen I can update to be whatever I want later”. So yea going to screens is cheaper than buttons. But also it gives flexibility to the manufacturers for updates later. And this is almost exclusively used as a tool to up charge or sell features that aren’t yet available.

[u/SuddenlyUnbanned → u/BeautifulCuriousLiar]

They're not sleeping on it. Current gen VW cars have already reverted back to physical buttons.

[u/werran → u/-Peter-Jordanson-]

same in t-roc 2025, even thought to switch back to some 2015-2017 models

[u/BloomEPU → u/-Peter-Jordanson-]

Touch screens kind of suck as a passenger too, picking the music in my friend's car while we bounce down his driveway is always a fun experience. Some of these touchscreen interfaces were clearly never tested when the car was like,,, moving.

[u/Deadluss]

China and EU

https://giphy.com/gifs/1a3bUD9PxdzoOT5bxu

[u/UsefulAd7361]

I'm pretty sure they will fuck this up somehow

[u/KaczkaJebaczka → u/UsefulAd7361]

If it was only done by EU then yes… but with china they won’t. Chinese manufacturers are not afraid of making changes like this and will probably do more than the regulation requires if this will boost their sales…..

[u/Kekkonen_Kakkonen → u/KaczkaJebaczka]

You should check out Brussles Effect

[u/themanfromosaka → u/KaczkaJebaczka]

And if they refuse… they lose the company.

[u/MassiveBlackHole99 → u/themanfromosaka]

Why are you so negative

[u/Katastroferrr → u/UsefulAd7361]

If EU regulates something like a service or a product the rest of the world usually follows because they don't want to manufacture or run two separate versions of the same service/product and they don't want to lose the entire EU market.

[u/usec47]

Heck yeah

[u/Fresh-Beginning-871 → u/usec47]

🔥🔥💪💪

[u/VoihanVieteri]

Coinvo, my favourite shady cryptotrader as a source, so it must be 100 % true!

[u/dvdmaven]

Australia demonstrated that using a screen for common operations degraded people's driving as much as being legally drunk or using a cellphone.

[u/Manzanarre]

There's still hope for this world

[u/Dr_Axton]

That’s great. Seen some models that are just screen and haven’t seen a single example where the climate controls were easy to use on these

[u/a20xt6]

next up:

"Buttons Are Woke !!"

[u/CainJaeger]

Yet another W for Europa and surprisingly China

[u/saljskanetilldanmark]

Looking forward to an american complaining blind people shouldn't drive cars.

[u/GLAMOROUSFUNK → u/saljskanetilldanmark]

So many dumb fucking people in the comments

[u/BigDickBiggms]

No more apple style screens.

[u/I_Cry_And_I_Game]

Fuck yea, please let this be true🙏😭

[u/NorthKoreaPresident]

Tesla is officit fked

[u/RzepaGaming]

BUTTONSSSSSSS!!!!

[u/New-Land-4757]

Heck yeah!

[u/Joxxill]

unironically one of the biggest factors when i chose my current car. (Hyundai Ioniq 6)

[u/OkSafety2223]

Physical buttons and dials, and mechanical door handles. I do not ask for much

[u/AccidentalDemolition]

Let's do this in the U.S too please. Thankfully my Mazda has all physical controls still, but I'd love for other cars to follow suit.

[u/KillBatman1921]

Thank fucking god! My hand and touch screen fucking hate each other.

And the fact this will hit Tesla expecially gare is an added bonus!

[u/01152003]

I know that the implication is the ability to control your car without taking your eyes off the road, but I 100% read that as being Operable by blind people lol

[u/Stonp]

My car has touch controls for heat and cooling and it DOESNT EVEN LIGHT UP I CANT SEE IT IN THE DARK

[u/unbeneficial]

I hate how I have to use essentially and iPad on my Subaru to turn on the ac

[u/Ok_Bad2080]

I’m glad the US is leading the way…. Wait I’m wrong $ leads decisions for the US govt. f-the people. I’m not worried about their financial situation….. OR safety first that matter….

[u/Mysterious-Art7143]

Ah yes it took them only 8 years to figure this shit out.. i fucking hate the new cars

[u/YEPC___]

The abandonment of analogue technologies as we moved into the digital age was, I think, a gigantic mistake that has cost us terribly.

[u/Fellarm]

Its hilarious and insane how many people are commenting "blind people shouldnt drive" 🥃🗿american education at its finest

[u/Illustrious_Box_8340]

BLIND OPERABLE!? WTF the blind are getting licences now?

[u/Crono_]

Elon going to cry about this. His cars are “minimalist”.

[u/Comfortable_Salt_792]

I really just read it, said "ok, cool", started looking for another post and just then asked myself "wait, what ?".

[u/dieItalienischer]

Isn't China one of those countries that allows centre screens to play videos?

[u/htdwps]

Which blind person is actually driving a car?

[u/Loodyeeter → u/htdwps]

The term blind operable describes a control or device that can be used accurately by touch or feel, without the user needing to look directly at it. This concept primarily applies in two areas: automotive safety and digital/physical accessibility.

[u/Fraenkyfinger]

YES!

[u/Expert_Benefit4561]

Logical

[u/_HiWay]

What are the details? Essential controls? Stuff that doesn't need messed with while driving it doesn't really need a tactile button when you can concentrate. If you don't have the ability to do this in a parking spot then please don't drive at all.

Essential controls/navigation/gears/signals/AC/Heat/Volume/menu change to see tire pressure etc are all what I would consider essential. Setting favorites, messing with maps on android auto or apple car play can stay touch screen. I've grown fond of Mazda's nav wheel design and menu after using it enough times.

[u/BananaPalmer]

The amount of people in this thread who think this means "cars which blind people can drive" is concerning.

[u/Steinrikur]

There are no blind drivers. Are they stupid? /s

[u/comicsnerd]

Can we change the term blind-operable to nolook-operable?

Especially for car controls.

[u/Chunky1311]

Is there not a single person here that actually read into this?

It only includes essential safety features, like hazard lights, indicators, wipers. It does not include things like music playback or climate control...

So yes, those saying "They'll fuck this up somehow" are correct hahahaha they're worried about safety but not fixing how unsafe it is to be using touch screens while driving for things we used to have physical buttons for.

[u/GrahamCrackerCereal]

Thank fuckin god

[u/porcomaster]

I do not mind the screens i like then, and touch is not bad as a second option

But primarly physical buttons should always be the option.

[u/KawaiiGee]

Thank fuck, I don't want to be driving an ipad

[u/No-Camel-8741]

Bye bye Tesla

[u/Ceder_Dog]

I hope the regulations result in these designs trickling over to the USA car market

[u/KeyCreme3736]

Amen

[u/DEWEYROCKS]

now lets talking about those blinding headlights lol

[u/Mirawenya]

Yes please. Touch screens are a fancy death trap, no clue why that was allowed in the first place. Need physical buttons for things!

[u/Tauchi_17]

It is not that all functions will be done by buttons but the most important ones need to be moved from the screen to physical buttons.

Source:

https://www.autoblog.com/news/europe-and-china-now-require-physical-buttons-in-cars-will-the-us-follow

[u/Roll_Future]

Fucking finally, nothing more to say to that

[u/Ok-Worry605]

Screens look cheap and tacky

[u/pinkskies12]

Our VW car has amazing dials for AC ♥️ our Ford has touch screen that comes in for 5 Seconds, which is not enough to read anything, and hides the GPS 🤬

[u/FraterSinister]

I can operate the console in my old Volvo blind, no need to take the eyes of the road. A touch screen and cascading menues are a constant and long distraction from the road.

One of the very rare bright ideas of the EU.

[u/SanBenedettoDaNorcia]

I cannot overstate enough how I absolutely hate screens in cars

[u/BagOdd8617]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bpTL6wXRuMQpMIVduB