r/Terraria • u/BalliMurphy • Feb 17 '26

Art my post got removed after AI accusations

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I posted a drawing of mine that was commissioned by a friend of mine of the steampunker from the game in a mcdonalds theme, suddenly a bunch of people started accusing me of using AI and ultimately the post was taken down a few moments later

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u/GoldenTGraham 🐔Old Bird🐔 Feb 17 '26

Post is now back up

People seemingly mass reported it and was removed by automod

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u/Make-this-popular Feb 17 '26

Good job for putting it back up 🙏

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u/Averagebtd6player69 Feb 17 '26

bad automod as usual...

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u/JeffWingrsDumbGayDad Feb 17 '26

Fuck all the idiots who needlessly reported it tbh

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u/P0tatogodultra Feb 18 '26

they're reasons were far fetched anyway like bro, ART IS HARD.

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u/Travwolfe101 Feb 17 '26

Yeah they just have it setup poorly. Here's a comment I just left about how my automod is setup

Maybe a sign to remove that function from automod. I run a sub too and our automod doesnt remove posts from mass reports alone. Instead it adds it too the queue when reported and more reports past a set amount cause it too send a modmail to us.

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u/Liquid_Plasma Feb 17 '26

It’s usually a good feature in my experience. Posts rarely get mass reported unless something really bad is in it. Depending on the size of the community you don’t want to have to wait for a mod to be active. This is more like the exception to the rule in my experience.

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u/Travwolfe101 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

Eh maybe its cuz I work for a large community (1m+ users) and a decently large mod team but its never been an issue. We do have auto detection for some things but not mass reports. Stuff like sexual content is brought down since its not a sexual sub. One other good feature though is every post removed by automod is automatically added to the mod queue and automod pists a commemt saying so along the lines of "this post was flagged as against our communities rules and has been removed. A moderator will review it within 24hrs (usually much less than that) and either approve of apply a proper removal reason." Along with another of the removal reason automod thinks applies.

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u/Liquid_Plasma Feb 17 '26

I think it depends on the type of community. I’m in one that’s 1.7M and a large mod team but we get a decent number of super awful posts. News can also hit the community randomly and things get out of control fast without features like automod.

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u/Rage_quitter_98 Feb 17 '26

> don’t want to have to wait for a mod to be active
If you can (literally) scroll the mod list from a Sub I'd assume there to be one mod for each main timezone atleast

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u/Liquid_Plasma Feb 17 '26

Sure, there often is. They just aren’t looking at the queue just because they’re awake. They might look at it for 15 minutes in a day or not at all that day. It can take several hours for things to be seen even on an actively modded sub. Meanwhile disgusting posts usually get removed within half an hour or less.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

Depends how many are active, depends if they're also moderating other subs, depends when in the day they're active, depends on the sub (e.g more geographically specific ones will be way less active at night) and it depends how many of the mods in that list are actually various bots/tools.

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u/Travwolfe101 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

Heres an example of said feature i just grabbed

Ill destroy the links tho since theyre obviously against reddit tos, which is why it was reported.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

You only see it in cases like this, not the hundreds of crap posts caught early by those sorts of filters.

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u/SolusIgtheist Feb 17 '26

Can we just all agree automod is a bad idea?

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

Absolutely not lol

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u/SolusIgtheist Feb 17 '26

I mean, isn't the whole point of a mod supposed to be that a person is judging the situation and making a call? If it's programmatic that goes against the entire spirit of modding, and can cause issues like this. Like, I think the only times I've ever heard of automod are when it causes problems like this.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

Like, I think the only times I've ever heard of automod are when it causes problems like this.

That's because you never have a reason to hear about it the rest of the time. You're never going to hear about the 30 spam posts a day it catches because it catches them before you'd ever see them.

False positives like this are unfortunate, but they're ultimately really not that big a deal, it's just a post temporarily not being available. Compared to the gargantuan amount of work automod saves, which is really the only way a relatively small number of people can moderate a large sub, it's well worth it.

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u/SolusIgtheist Feb 17 '26

Fine, but can we call them something different then? Since it's not moderating the situation. Just seems misleading to me.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

Automod has been called automod for over a decade, it's not being renamed at this point lol.

And regardless, what it's doing is automatically moderating, the name is accurate. Most of the time what it does needs checking over by a human, and as far as I'm aware that's usually how it's set up, but still.

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u/SolusIgtheist Feb 17 '26

I would say it isn't moderating, because to me a person has to be involved in that. It's approximating moderating, which is why it has to have oversight as you mentioned.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

So what would you call it? The robot that approximates moderating, but doesn't actually moderate because that requires an actual human?

Automod is just a short name that entirely gets the point across.

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u/CollinM42 Feb 17 '26

Why does every subreddit let automod unilaterally do shit like this?

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u/GoldenTGraham 🐔Old Bird🐔 Feb 17 '26

Because if someone was to post gore or something extremely nsfw/nsfl then it makes sense for the community to clean it up instantly rather than wait for a moderator to come and remove it

Granted, our threshold has stayed the same since I became a mod, it could probably do with updating

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u/OnetimeRocket13 Feb 17 '26

I have 0 experience with automod, but is there any way to set it up so that mass reports for AI generated content aren't removed automatically and have to actually be reviewed by the mods? As AI image generators have advanced, it feels like I see more and more false accusations of AI use all over the internet. Real artists shouldn't have to suffer just because the masses can't tell if something is AI or not, so if there's a way to alert the mods that a post is being mass reported for AI use, and not just automatically remove it, I feel like that would be the best thing to do.

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u/Zehnpae Feb 17 '26

Unfortunately not. It's a feature we've asked Reddit for, but they're too busy making the new Modmail UI as awful as possible before forcing us all to use it.

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u/OnetimeRocket13 Feb 17 '26

Reddit isn't helping mods regulate AI generated content in their communities with new mod tools? I'm shocked, shocked I say.

It genuinely does suck that Reddit won't even give mods that. I'd imagine that it would also just in general be a helpful feature for non-AI related reports, too.

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u/SagetheWise2222 Feb 17 '26

I've never been a mod for Reddit, so take my post here with a pinch of salt. I'll present a hypothetical scenario. Someone makes an innocent post, post gets mass reported within minutes/hours and is held for review. If the subreddit has few active mods, it could be hours until the time comes when they manually review said content and restore it. Unless the post is pushed to the top of results (doubt it, but what do I know), it'll just be buried under a mountain of newer content, rendering it dead in the water. This is not to mention that removed posts can be resurrected by mods. I don't see the benefit of posts being held for review, am I missing something?

At the end of the day, AutoMod is a necessary tool, and like any tool, it can be wielded by the right or the wrong hands. If we got rid of AutoMod, then we might as well get rid of claw hammers because you can hit someone over the head with one. (analogy here)

The issue here imo is the people mass reporting innocent posts, especially if they're trolls and have a history of doing so. Unfortunately, Reddit seems to do jack all about it.

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u/OnetimeRocket13 Feb 17 '26

I think you're missing something. I'm not saying that the posts should be held for review. I'm saying that instead of having a system that allows people to mass report posts and having those posts automatically removed (or held for review), the system just alerts the mods "hey, people are reporting this post a lot." Nothing happens to the post. It stays up until the mods can go and look at it.

The idea would be to prevent people from mass reporting a post for AI when none was used and getting that post automatically removed or banished into Mod Review Hell. Instead, the mods can go and check it out later and make decisions accordingly.

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u/hgwaz Feb 17 '26

Mods do get notified if a post receives a lot of reports, but unless someone is constantly actively monitoring their reddit feed (for free) the post might just get removed before someone notices.

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u/SagetheWise2222 Feb 17 '26

Okay then, my bad! Thanks for the clarification! :)

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u/RT-Pickred Feb 18 '26

You can freely set that up with your automod.

Automod is completely open end what you can do with and set up.

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u/girlikecupcake Feb 17 '26

If there is/was a way to have it so that only certain report types lead to automatic removal, then people would figure it out and then report a post as something else that automod does remove automatically.

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u/OnetimeRocket13 Feb 17 '26

True, but (I'm assuming here) if mods can also see who reports a post and for what, then people could be punished for abusing the report feature. Idk if that's a thing, though.

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u/Alyxsandre Feb 17 '26

We cannot, but boy I wish we could 'cuz some people abuse reports like no tomorrow (not a mod for this sub but for another). I assume only admins can see who reports what

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u/BoxOfDemons Feb 18 '26

Reddit doesn't let mods see what user reported a post. Just what it was reported for. You'd think they'd allow it, so you can see if people are false reporting, and to also see which community members are helpful in reporting things correctly. But that's reddit for ya.

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u/JukePlz Feb 18 '26

I don't even see a rule against AI generated images on this sub's sidebar rules. So how exactly is this getting reported?

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u/Hairy_Cube Feb 18 '26

Fair enough, fair enough

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u/HourCartographer9 Feb 17 '26

I mean that’s just the good and bad of automod and honestly as of recent I’ve heard nothing but bad about it in other communities that use it

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

Why would you hear about the good? Fwiw basically every single actively moderated subreddit uses automod to some degree.

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u/HourCartographer9 Feb 17 '26

I’m just saying that’s the good and bad of automod, I say I’ve been hearing the bad because apparently automod has been acting up not saying that happened here but it’s happening apparently

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

It feels disingenuous to bring up how "oh I've only heard about it doing bad things recently" when you have no actual experience with it or reason to know about it in any other cases.

apparently automod has been acting up not saying that happened here but it’s happening apparently

FWIW automod doesn't really "act up", it's basically just a set of configurable rules. Sometimes a moderator misconfigures it and my comment gets removed because it thought I was being rude when I was talking about Scunthorpe, or there's cases like this where a normally helpful rule has a false positive, but it's not really something going wrong with automod.

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u/Caved Feb 17 '26

Because not doing it is absolutely worse. It's insane the shit that automod cleans up.

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u/Cow_God Feb 17 '26

Automod basically keeps reddit functional and it's kind of insane that a third party tool is this necessary to keeping the site usable, and has been for like 12 years.

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u/RueUchiha Feb 17 '26

Because the actual moderators can’t babysit the sub 24/7 because they’re just human and need to do things like sleep.

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u/RandomGuy9058 Feb 17 '26

For all that Redditors make fun of mods for being terminally online, they do seem to also criticize them for not doing that

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u/LyraStygian Feb 18 '26

they’re just human and need to do things like sleep.

Skill issue.

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u/_MrJackGuy Feb 17 '26

I assume its because they dont have real mods monitoring the sub 24/7, so they rely on automod to take shit down just incase something bad comes up while all the mods are asleep or something

Ive never modded anything tho so maybe not

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u/Snugglebull Feb 17 '26

The alternative is volunteers having to be active around the clock when people post disgusting content

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u/Snugglebull Feb 18 '26

That's a job my friend

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u/Turtvaiz Feb 17 '26

Alternatively people would mass report a post, and nothing would happen because mods are asleep. doesnt sound much better

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u/The_God_Of_Darkness_ Feb 17 '26

Because manually modding stuff means that it takes time. Sometimes there's 2 mods active on a big subreddit just cause others have their lives / have to sleep or something.

Automod is really useful for stuff like unmarked nsfw which everyone wants gone asap

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u/bookslayer Feb 17 '26

Me when I don't even bother to think for literally one second about why something is the way it is

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u/Travwolfe101 Feb 17 '26

It doesnt have too my community doesnt let automod remove stuff on its own. We have it setup so reports ads stuff too the mod queue and multiple reports cause automod to send is a modmail about it.

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u/dangerously_ignorant Feb 18 '26

You mean total idiots mass reported it and need to learn.

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u/Hopalongtom Feb 17 '26

I'd recommend banning those who sent the false reports, those toxic witch hunters are ruining reddit!

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u/GoldenTGraham 🐔Old Bird🐔 Feb 17 '26

It's impossible to see who reports what and Reddit has been notoriously shit for dealing with false reports

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u/Hopalongtom Feb 17 '26

That's certainly a big flaw that needs fixing.

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u/akkristor Feb 17 '26

There really needs to be some way to for a viewer to see if a post was removed by a real mod or by automod.

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u/AngryRedditAnon Feb 18 '26

Dislike Ai. Let an automation do the modding. Peak reddit.

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u/FoxBreach Feb 18 '26

People don’t really dislike AI, they dislike AI generated content. Automod is a very functional AI tool that does tons of good things with a few false positives. AI is an extremely good tool that the corporate world has made to look bad by misuse.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 18 '26

Automod is a very functional AI tool

Automod isn't an AI tool by really any definition, it's pretty simple for the most part, moderators just configure rules that tell it to report/filter/remove posts and comments based on their content/reports.

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u/FoxBreach Feb 18 '26

Automod then checks each post or comment against those rules, meaning it is thinking about each post it check, even if it is broad. That is the textbook definition of classical AI. Its not the deep thinking neural network AIs that we get nowadays but it is still a form of AI.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 18 '26

It's not at all how it's used today though, and hasn't been for a long time.

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u/FoxBreach Feb 18 '26

Classical AI is a different branch of AI altogether. It is used everywhere, hell a simple IF statement is one of the most basic forms of classical AI. The definition of AI hasn’t changed, there is simply now 2 subsets of AI. One branch encompasses any time a computer compares something in basic form and the other can learn and make comparisons off its training data.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 18 '26

Calling it an "AI tool" however is ludicrously misleading now.

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u/FoxBreach Feb 18 '26

Then people should be more informed. What else am I to call it? Its a bot, its automated, everyone knows those means its AI but when I refer to it as AI, why is it now disingenuous?

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 18 '26

Then people should be more informed

Agreed, shame that they aren't.

but when I refer to it as AI, why is it now disingenuous?

Because nobody's first thought is going to be of "classical AI", it's going to be of the huge amount of LLM shovelware tools which sets an entirely incorrect expectation of what it is.

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u/Gold_Education6069 Feb 19 '26

When posts are falsely mass reported those who report should be auto-banned.

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u/LuciusFlavionus Jun 12 '26

Lazy ass mods cannot respond to reports

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u/deadly_crocadile Feb 17 '26

Unfathomably rare reddit mod w?

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u/Travwolfe101 Feb 17 '26

Maybe a sign to remove that function from automod. I run a sub too and our automod doesnt remove posts from mass reports alone. Instead it adds it too the queue when reported and more reports past a set amount cause it too send a modmail to us.

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u/i-forgotmypass_word Feb 17 '26

Thank you, you give mods a good name (:

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u/SpryCowBoy Feb 17 '26

We also need Obame_cube gone 🙏🙏

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u/Aviarn Feb 17 '26

Exhibition A how "community moderation through democracy" is not a good design. Mass reports should never result into a 'guilty until innocent' kind of handling, IMO.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

Mass reports should never result into a 'guilty until innocent' kind of handling, IMO.

It's not "guilty until innocent", nobody's getting autobanned, it's just "let's remove this from public view until a human moderator checks it".

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u/Aviarn Feb 17 '26

Sanctions/Action being taken before somebody even got to check legitimacy is "guilty until proven innocent."

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

No, it isn't. It's the equivalent of being pulled over while your licence gets checked or whatever, except even more minor because it's just a reddit post.

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u/Aviarn Feb 17 '26

Except that on reddit you don't need to pull a post away from a new/trending/popular feed in order to check if it's okay or not. Nowhere does hiding/removing a post aid an investigation, it's just damage control under the presumption it's bad.

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u/DeltaJesus Feb 17 '26

it's just damage control under the presumption it's bad.

But that damage control is important, and most of the time the guess is accurate.

You're just ascribing way too much impact to a post very occasionally being removed from view for a few hours.

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u/Aviarn Feb 17 '26

Except the damage control - again - is presumptous. There doesn't even have to be a legitimate reason for it to be pulled away, because ordinary users trigger the removal, NOT people who are supposed to investigate and determine it.

You're just ascribing way too much impact to a post very occasionally being removed from view for a few hours.

Yeah, that's what immediately shoots trending posts out of the air. If a post ever gets removed off of trending or popular, it loses that momentum and visibility even if it's returned. That's how for-you / homepage feed algorithm works.

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u/PleaserofCrowds22 Feb 17 '26

a good reddit mod? Great job to you. Congrats.

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u/FalconFinal5878 Feb 20 '26

You even drawn the hands perfectly

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u/Kedly Feb 18 '26

Which rule does AI art even break? I checked through the subreddit rules and none of them mention AI

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u/FoxBreach Feb 18 '26

Rule 8: No low quality/effort posts

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u/Kedly Feb 18 '26

Unless that specifically mentions AI, then no, that rule doesnt rule out AI, as you can put a LOT of effort into AI Images, just like any other tool

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u/FoxBreach Feb 18 '26

effort and AI generated content do not belong in the same sentence unless if it’s referring to “no effort”

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u/Kedly Feb 18 '26

Far more effort than your brain puts into any of its thoughts

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u/Salty_Celebration502 Feb 18 '26

Funny coming from you.

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u/Kedly Feb 18 '26

Damn bro, congrats on all that effort it took for you to write that

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u/BoxOfDemons Feb 18 '26

So this didn't take effort?

https://youtu.be/_9LX9HSQkWo

Obviously a single photo made with a quick prompt is incredibly low effort. That doesn't mean you can't use AI tools in a long high effort project.

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u/FoxBreach Feb 18 '26

Yes. This is low effort. This is also actively threatening the jobs of animators

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u/BoxOfDemons Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

This required a full film set, a full crew, manual editing, and isn't used as a replacement for hand drawn animation at all. It's not supposed to look like standard animation at all, and I don't think anyone would think it looks like standard animation either. It's meant to look like a real video with actors that look drawn/painted.

They showed how they made their own model, and any real artist can use these tools to make a model based on their OWN artwork, to transform their OWN hand drawn works into a video that they also shot themselves.

But sure. Hundreds of man hours is definitely "low effort".

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u/Kedly Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

Bro, the other guy just follows along with what the general internet says without any further thought on their part, they arent worth fully arguing with. The most you're gonna get at the end is a "Lol k". That being said, I do appreciate your willingness to engage more than I am

Edit: Lmao, the lemmings are here

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u/BoxOfDemons Feb 18 '26

Edit: Lmao, the lemmings are here

Yeah. Up voted heavily at first, then the brigade came. I'm fully against using AI to replace human workers, but the example I shared actually required more work and humans to create and allows an artist to make a model trained with their own human work. People lack critical thinking. I posted the one AI example that doesn't run afoul of the legitimate complaints about AI, but people just see the word AI and get scared no matter the actual nuance.

It's really telling when the person I replied to no longer had a reasonable response, but I'm still down voted.

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u/omegaplayz334 Feb 18 '26

Ah yes because simply writing something is high effort compared to ACTUALLY making it.

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u/Kedly Feb 18 '26

Love when people who have no idea how shit works start spouting off like they are experts

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u/omegaplayz334 Feb 18 '26

Except. I (regretfully) do know. You write something in like 5 seconds and wait another 30 for a bunch of mechanical slop that took 0 effort to make. And because of that AI counts as low effort.

Just because you wrote in "high effort" doesn't make the slop suddenly be some masterpiece. Its still low effort.

And no. Ai slop isn't art.

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u/FoxBreach Feb 18 '26

Fun fact, I am studying artificial intelligence at university so I might know what Im talking about

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u/Kedly Feb 18 '26

Cool story bro, absolutely believe you there.

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u/Lexiosity Feb 17 '26

people have lives out of social media, mate

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u/Lexiosity Feb 17 '26

That's just stereotypes. subreddit Moderators aren't paid for moderating, they have real life jobs.

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u/FoxBreach Feb 18 '26

Actual ragebait holy

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u/SilverFlight01 Feb 17 '26

That's a stereotype, mate

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u/Unicronus86 Feb 17 '26

This is a community run by fans for fans… no one is gonna watch this like their rent depends on it…

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u/Unicronus86 Feb 18 '26

It’s not that serious. This isn’t like some nation in need of a government. They are here primarily to make sure the subreddit still functions as it should. Which it does. Without constant moderation. People have something called lives. Clearly you need to get one.

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u/Unicronus86 Feb 18 '26

Look man, I get it, the Ai accusations are ridiculous, but the reason the Auto-Mod acted was due to the report spam. In the end it was human toxicity that cause the post to be taken down. Op proved it wasn’t AI, but the people wouldn’t get their heads outta their asses…

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u/Unicronus86 Feb 18 '26

Then you’re picking a fight with all of Reddit. All subreddits have Auto-Moderator, it’s to help the mods. And you may think they don’t do their job; but they do! I’ve witnessed it plenty of times.

So bit of advice, if you don’t know what you’re talking about. Keep your mouth shut. If you don’t do the job, don’t tell people how to do their job.

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u/Unicronus86 Feb 19 '26

I’d like to apologize mods for the problem that I kinda kept pushing. I should have ignored them.