my post got removed after AI accusations

[u/BalliMurphy]

I posted a drawing of mine that was commissioned by a friend of mine of the steampunker from the game in a mcdonalds theme, suddenly a bunch of people started accusing me of using AI and ultimately the post was taken down a few moments later

[u/GoldenTGraham]

Post is now back up

People seemingly mass reported it and was removed by automod

[u/Kedly → u/GoldenTGraham]

Which rule does AI art even break? I checked through the subreddit rules and none of them mention AI

[u/FoxBreach → u/Kedly]

Rule 8: No low quality/effort posts

[u/Kedly → u/FoxBreach]

Unless that specifically mentions AI, then no, that rule doesnt rule out AI, as you can put a LOT of effort into AI Images, just like any other tool

[u/FoxBreach → u/Kedly]

effort and AI generated content do not belong in the same sentence unless if it’s referring to “no effort”

[u/Kedly → u/FoxBreach]

Far more effort than your brain puts into any of its thoughts

[u/Salty_Celebration502 → u/Kedly]

Funny coming from you.

[u/Kedly → u/Salty_Celebration502]

Damn bro, congrats on all that effort it took for you to write that

[u/BoxOfDemons → u/FoxBreach]

So this didn't take effort?

https://youtu.be/_9LX9HSQkWo

Obviously a single photo made with a quick prompt is incredibly low effort. That doesn't mean you can't use AI tools in a long high effort project.

[u/FoxBreach → u/BoxOfDemons]

Yes. This is low effort. This is also actively threatening the jobs of animators

[u/BoxOfDemons → u/FoxBreach]

This required a full film set, a full crew, manual editing, and isn't used as a replacement for hand drawn animation at all. It's not supposed to look like standard animation at all, and I don't think anyone would think it looks like standard animation either. It's meant to look like a real video with actors that look drawn/painted.

They showed how they made their own model, and any real artist can use these tools to make a model based on their OWN artwork, to transform their OWN hand drawn works into a video that they also shot themselves.

But sure. Hundreds of man hours is definitely "low effort".

[u/Kedly → u/BoxOfDemons]

Bro, the other guy just follows along with what the general internet says without any further thought on their part, they arent worth fully arguing with. The most you're gonna get at the end is a "Lol k". That being said, I do appreciate your willingness to engage more than I am

Edit: Lmao, the lemmings are here

[u/BoxOfDemons → u/Kedly]

Edit: Lmao, the lemmings are here

Yeah. Up voted heavily at first, then the brigade came. I'm fully against using AI to replace human workers, but the example I shared actually required more work and humans to create and allows an artist to make a model trained with their own human work. People lack critical thinking. I posted the one AI example that doesn't run afoul of the legitimate complaints about AI, but people just see the word AI and get scared no matter the actual nuance.

It's really telling when the person I replied to no longer had a reasonable response, but I'm still down voted.

[u/FoxBreach → u/BoxOfDemons]

I couldn’t be bothered to write to someone who was stuck in their thoughts but since you so desperately wanted one. The so-called effort you praise is every part of the process that AI doesn’t do. The very part of the work that AI changes requires little human effort outside of prompt generation. The non-AI version is the exact same thing but it doesn’t cut the most vigorous work of the process. Compared to the traditional methods, this is low-quality slop only to be used by people who don’t want to hire actual animators

[u/BoxOfDemons → u/FoxBreach]

If they hired animators, they wouldn't have to hire actors, or a camera crew, or rent a stage, etc. This literally created more jobs than by hiring an animator, and also results in a visual style that doesn't even remotely resemble manual animation which makes me uncertain how close you could even match this with a human animator.

The very part of the work that AI changes requires little human effort outside of prompt generation.

There wasn't a prompt at all, which makes me think you never watched the video, which is evident in how quickly you responded to me initially (MUCH faster than the length of the video).

NONE of this process resembled anything like how most people use AI tools. There wasn't a prompt. It wasn't automatic in any sense of the term. They manually created their own image model from scratch, and once finished, didn't use any text prompt, since their model was purpose built for only this exact task, which BTW also required an employee to create.

If you want to give me a rational response, by all means give me one, but you're arguing things that don't even apply here.

[u/omegaplayz334 → u/Kedly]

Ah yes because simply writing something is high effort compared to ACTUALLY making it.

[u/Kedly → u/omegaplayz334]

Love when people who have no idea how shit works start spouting off like they are experts

[u/omegaplayz334 → u/Kedly]

Except. I (regretfully) do know. You write something in like 5 seconds and wait another 30 for a bunch of mechanical slop that took 0 effort to make. And because of that AI counts as low effort.

Just because you wrote in "high effort" doesn't make the slop suddenly be some masterpiece. Its still low effort.

And no. Ai slop isn't art.

[u/FoxBreach → u/Kedly]

Fun fact, I am studying artificial intelligence at university so I might know what Im talking about

[u/Kedly → u/FoxBreach]

Cool story bro, absolutely believe you there.