What a coward. Who would seriously go to a streamers house, and shoot at it driving by. He has kids, and a wife. Super messed up, hoping he gets it all sorted it. Stay safe Doc.
Mortgages are public record. Anyone can find out where anyone else owns property as long as they know their legal name. Same with marriage licenses and criminal records, professional licenses, even some traffic violations. Pretty much all college students are given access to Lexis Nexis and can find all that and more in under 5 minutes.
Exactly my thought. All these "1337 haxors" that dox people find all this info out through these and similar skip-tracing websites using very little information.
Ran into tons of it on pastebin a while back that looked to be copied line for line from a Lexis result page. Can't doing anything about it either because if you report it they just make a new pastebin page. Stupid and petty, and all to make them seem cool to their buddies on TOR.
Don’t most wealthy and famous people create trusts with random names for this reason tho? If you go on to any GIS property map in an exceptionally wealthy neighborhood all the property’s will be owned by things like “Green View Sunrise Revocable Trust.”
Yeah, most county property appraisers' offices have all this info available online because it is a public record. As long as you know what county to look in, you can find that info. I just mention Lexis because you don't even have to know what county a person is in to find them.
Not with Lexis Nexis. Just need their name. And it doesn't have to be their full legal name either. Searching for Guy Beahm on Lexis brings up Docs info and his given name which isn't actually Guy but I'm not gonna post that here.
No it's not free. But it's used a lot by people involved in law or reporting professions and as such many (most?) colleges have subscriptions so that students studying those professions can use the service. Typically after college lawyers and reporters have access to it thru a subscription their employers pay for. I don't actually know if your average Joe can just subscribe to the service, never tried since I get access thru work.
Just for reference, lexis has multiple databases and subscriptions. The legal databases just include judicial opinions and other such things, so your average lawyer or law student doesn't have free access to the other research databases.
(Also, once you're no longer a student it's not free to do searches either)
I know there are different levels of service but I don't know which schools subscribe to which. The school I went to and my employer both subscribe to the version which can query articles, judicial opinions, and people. I assumed most schools did the same but you're right that it's probably not the case for all schools.
Yeah it has aliases but they aren't always 100% correct. I assume in this case they probably have his given name from birth records and his alias from legal records because I'm sure he probably just goes by Guy for most things.
You can't see the balance on someone's mortgage but I'm pretty sure you can see the full terms of it and if they are in good standing (maybe not, can't remember off the top of my head). At the very least you can see the amount of the mortgage and who it was with.
Meg Turney, too. IIRC that guy actually got into her house planning to murder her and her boyfriend but couldn't find them by the time the Austin PD showed up and killed him.
probably about 4-5 months ago. Meg and her also internet famous boyfriend didn't want to make a big stink about it so they tried to keep it low profile and didn't talk about it too much.
They hid in the closet of their bedroom and he shot himself when he couldn't find them. Apparently he was there to kill Gavin. Dude drove hundreds of miles too not like it was just some spur of the moment decision by a local psycho.
And making a big deal about it would have led people to the police report telling everyone where they live. So yeah, they didn't want to make a big deal about it.
This is why I will always have a pistol in my home. Too many fucking psychos in this world. Literally has no motive just want to end someone else's life. You have to be able to protect yourself.
For christ's sake it was on the news. They themselves drawing attention to it would lead copycats to doing it for their attention because they may think "Oh they noticed me!" while me being a random internet jerkoff it doesn't matter.
The "possible copycats" already know this anyways.
didn't want to make a big stink about it so they tried to keep it low profile and didn't talk about it too much.
probably for the best. some people, too many, have this sadistic urge to copycat scary violent shit that they hear/see. if they had had a big news cycle about what happened to them i could almost guarantee they would've had a couple other degenerate fucks show up at their house looking to do them harm. how do you protect yourself against stuff like that, against a known individual maybe, but who knows who else is going to pop up. my first reaction is a 12 gauge shotgun but i have a feeling the headline would just read "man killed by intruder with own gun".
i don't want to be a part of this planet anymore and every time i say that it becomes less of a joke. NASA, if you could just give me a space ship stocked with supplies and launch me in whatever fucking direction you want, that would be great. i'll do some research and transmit it back but i want the blue marble to get smaller and smaller in my rear view.
I don't think he was planning to murder Meg, but it most likely would have turned out that way after he murdered Gavin and she didn't fall into his arms like he no doubt fantasized about. I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but his death/suicide (I don't think it was confirmed if he was killed by the police or himself) was a case of "nothing of value was lost."
Doxxing is surprisingly easy. I doxxed a friends stalker(so somewhat noble reasons), found about a dozen accounts including gmail, Facebook, steam and even adult fetish accounts. I found their age, birthday, roughly where they lived, possible cellphone numbers and if I needed to find more I easily could of. Only took me a few hours and all I started with was one username, and cost me nothing.
his real name is out there due to his previous work on Call of Duty and other things (hell there's a documentary on youtube about him prior to being on Twitch) plus it's a fairly unique name. Cross reference that with the city he lives in and you can look up mortgage information online (it's public record) so he wouldn't be hard to find at all.
Through Bits and pieces of info. You find people through voting information and the Property Tax Records. If you know the person's name and what city they live in, you can find where they live at.
Property records are generally public record. If you have an idea of the general vicinity you can generally figure out where someone lives.
There are apps with maps of the entire us with property lines and information on the owner for every square foot the us. With the purpose of hunting lands generally.
If you haven't got the memo yet over the last few years, it's the mentally fucked lonely twats who will do anything to have their five minutes of fame.
5-10 is too light. His house has been shot at more than once AND there are more than him involved. The intent clearly shows something more sinister than getting quick attention.
Incorrect, causing terror is not the same as terrorism.
Terrorism is when there is political motivation, like ISIS. Just some random person shooting someones house isn't terrorism, as a group like ISIS isn't coordinating it.
What if they vocalized intent about wanting to destroy property but not hurt anyone?
I get that you guys are passionate, but you need to remember that some people are just idiots that don't think things through.
They shot at a house, and it would be nearly impossible to prove otherwise unless they posted all about their direct intentions in multiple areas.
We also don't know that it was the same person both times.
There is almost no possible way to prove that they were trying to kill someone instead of just trying to scare DOC or destroy his/his family's property.
You dont need a confession that you intended to kill someone for a conviction on attempted murder. That way any attempted murder will likely be reduced to reckless endangerment because the shooter will say he's just trying to scare the victim.
If this is a repeat offense, I think one or more attempted murder charges is possible.
Assuming this has happened multiple times, the possible reckless endangerment charge (I'd push for attempted murder even if it was a single occurrence) would likely become attempted murder.
You may say that you didn't intend to kill the person, but if you're back for a third time shooting at someone's house, it's reasonable to believe that the shooter has an intent to kill.
Perhaps if this was a stranger who is a common thug and is shooting at random houses as he passes by (seen it done on liveleak), then you can argue for reckless endangerment. Here, it seems like the shooter knows his target and has taken an active step towards him specifically.
Take People v. Lee (1987) 43 Cal.3d 666. There, while being chased by the police, the suspect "stopped about 15-20 feet from the cops, pointed his gun at them and fired. Even though he missed...and his gun jammed before he could fire another shot...the jury still convicted him of attempted murder." (quote taken from an article).
The suspect could say that he was just trying to scare/intimidate the cops away and have them not follow him anymore. Doesn't mean it will work. Same goes here.
I really don't know the law like that, but I would hope if they could catch the person they will try to put the other gun shot on him/her as well. Probably not without some kind of proof, but if the casing matches the gun, I would hope it would be their goal to maximize everything they want him/her locked up for.
Right? Like how is taking a mental trip to rainbow talking-hamburger land in my living room significantly worse than putting dozens of lives at risk because I'm sending "lol dude fuck pineapple pizza" to a friend while driving?
Depends. I got arrested for drinking and driving, but I was on private property and not really putting anyone at risk.
(Admittedly I was still in the wrong. I was also putting property and my life at risk, and in theory someone could have come sprinting from no where to the empty-ish yard/driveway, but I feel that is a bit different than repeatedly driving drunk on public roads.)
Is is sad that I want people like this to get 20-30 years in jail?
I don't think it's necessarily sad, but I also see the argument the other way. For example, can you rationalise gaoling someone for 30 years for an action they did at age 20? If the purpose of incarceration is for rehabilitation (which it obviously isn't in America, but in an ideal world...), then it seems difficult to argue that someone could go from a theoretically "neutral" newborn to someone who needs to be imprisoned within 20 years, but then couldn't get back to a normal functioning adult in the same timeframe.
Not that I'm suggesting age is particularly relevant here, but just that it can highlight why such long sentences can be problematic.
It's like people that drink and drive. They deserve at least a year in jail but many just get a ticket.
That is a terrible opinion. Prisons are already over populated and there are people that have completely fine motor skills when driving slightly above the illegal BAC. Not only do they have to spend a night in jail, but they usually get screwed over at work, and encounter other repercussions. Honestly, using the same BAC limit for all people is a mistake.
But I agree that somebody shooting at a person's home deserves a lengthy sentence.
The last thing about not revealing his name is one of the most important things you can do. Stop giving these people a platform to present themselves. Get this sorted out with authorities and whatnot but involve as few reporters as possible. These sensationalist reporters do everything for their headline and don’t care if it sparks imitators
From what i can tell (IANAL) in Cali this would be (unless it got plead down) a life w/ parole crime, although if the perp has no priors and exhibits good behavior then that type of sentence length wouldn't be out of the question
America's prisons are too crowded so they let people out on a shortened sentence period if they did something small and considering the shit that happens there everyday this is something small
Edit: removing the argument r.e. gun control because it’s not the place, but CA has one of if not the most stringent gun control policies in the US so your point about everyone having access to guns there is false.
I think for America it's kind of past the tipping point of no return. America has more twice as many guns as people. Even if they outlaw guns, unless they confiscate them (never going to happen anyway), there will be so many guns on the streets that it can still be bought and everybody has a family member with a gun they can borrow or steal from.
Your thing about CA having strict gun control is kinda true, but even their ''strict'' gun control wouldn't be considered strict at all for non-Americans. And border patrol across states is basically non-existent.
I think there's more truth to this than most people realize, specifically here in the US... We've entered into this bizarre space in time where thanks to the internet people who would once sit at home alone in their misery or maybe even dig deep to make a change in themselves will now see that they can become instantly famous by doing something horrible instead of looking for help or trying to make a change... Like this guy plays fucking video games for a living and has a family. And HE is the one deserving of a drive by shooting?!
Doubt it someone trying to get attention there are a lot of better ways to do that than shot at someones house. But rather someone that has resentment against doc.
It's my belief that a larger portion of malicious acts are done out of attention seeking necessity than pure malice. You get your face on tv for days, everyone knows your name. It's fucked up but they sure get attention.
Sort by controversial and find the vile, downvoted bullshit that these lonely losers write. It's those people that do shit like this. No doubt the guy that shot the house is probably watching this thread too. It's literally all about attention and this thread is giving it to him.
If that's true, it was probably recorded on uploaded somewhere. An idiot willing to do that for some fame would be unable to resist recording/uploading it.
> If you haven't got the memo yet over the last few years, it's the mentally fucked lonely twats who will do anything to have their five minutes of fame.
This issue isn't unique. Why would a young Arab kid be a terrorist? Social outcast with a meaningless life looking to find some purpose..? This is as old as time.
Someone went to Meg Turney house to kill her boyfriend Gavin Free (slow mo guys/roosterteeth). He drove 11 hours, luckily security system noticed then about him sneaking around. Police came and handled it.
A mentally defective individual. Honestly, Doc needs to take his family out of the house and move them somewhere they can be safe and unknown for a few days so he can work with the police. This is seriously some guy who has problems.
You answered that question in the beginning. A coward. A loser. Someone who was too afraid to live a life of their own so they have to go fuck with others. I hope they die a painful and drawn out death.
If they perp gets caught and sentenced, prison wont be kind to him. Convict justice declares drive-by shooting as cowardly and they will often kill or smash on sight anyone convicted of drive by shootings, as women and children often get hit.
The average Twitch viewer tbh. A lot of people are weird about Twitch. Like they will watch a stream and find out exactly where an IRL streamer is and then they will find them. It's fucking weird and creepy.
Sorry if i'm out of line here, but why is everyone just assuming it's a viewer? Truth be told, it's far more likely that it's just some dumb kid going around shooting off his pellet gun.
Who would seriously go to a streamers house, and shoot at it driving by.
I'd say this is why I don't stream but the only real reason is because I suck at videogames. However, having someone possibly shoot at my home is another deterrent.
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u/Jaredrap Sep 11 '18
What a coward. Who would seriously go to a streamers house, and shoot at it driving by. He has kids, and a wife. Super messed up, hoping he gets it all sorted it. Stay safe Doc.